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can we have a date for the end of the invasion

Started by Fortis · 2020-06-04 · 43 posts · General Discussions
#0
All player really like to know when special event will finish. we can figure our play time to a rush or not  this event...
#1
From the recent Meet and Greet:

gift says: was wondering if the invasion end date was ever stated or do we still have ample time to do it?
Mesanna says: We were talking mid june
gift says: uhh
Mesanna says: turning this on(e) off but we will advertise it
Mesanna says: and let everyone know

So, you best keep doing it.
#2
heee hooo!!!!!
#3
I suggest they continue it until at least the end of June if not even further.....

It is fun content, many players are enjoying it, so, unless they have some other content ready to be released that would also see a similar participation from the UO players base, what would be the point of stopping it and leaving players with not such much fun gameplay anymore ?

@Mesanna , @Bleak , @Kyronix , want to please consider running this fun playing Invasion content for longer unless you have better and more enjoyable content to publish as ready ?

Thanks !
#4
no this needs to stop sooner rather than later. It's been running too long already. Continue it on prodo shards if you wish but please turn it off on Siege already. Noone should be able to farm high end items in complete safety (guardzone)
#5
Interesting. Even siege players don't like to get pked. 
#6
Soon...
#7
Invasion is 2 hours of torture and 5 mins of excitement. Those generals are making me sleepy.
#8
We have not had any new content for over 6 months, so Im sure they will roll something new and fantastic out...soon. And new EM "tools" is NOT new content. Lets go Dev team, show us what ya got!
#9
jelinidas said:
We have not had any new content for over 6 months, so Im sure they will roll something new and fantastic out...soon. And new EM "tools" is NOT new content. Lets go Dev team, show us what ya got!
I totally agree.

New EM tools is NOT new content, by no means, to my viewing....

If there is actual, brand new content that players can enjoy and have fun then great, have the Town Invasions at some point fade away into BRAND NEW content to keep players having fun.

BUT, and this is my argument, if such brand NEW content is not yet ready, THEN, since apparently players DO ARE enjoying to Town Invasions since they are participating to them, one way or the other, I say KEEP the Town Invasions running as long as BRAND NEW content will be ready to replace them.

I do not see the point to end content (the Town Invasions) that is having such a high participation from players with basically nothing else, if no brand new content is ready to be Published.....

That is at least how I see it.
#10
If you don't enjoy doing the Invasions then go do some thing else. If you feel they should stop YOU come up with the new content. The developers don't seem to have anything ready at the moment.


PS I get my enjoyment for seeing PVPs complain that people are having fun else were and won't play with them.
#11
Maybe they can only turn on one at a time.
Since they can bring back invasion with +50 SDI spellbook, maybe they can also bring back events to get the bane dragon, non-replica Lieutenant sash, First aid belt, Serpent’s Jawbone, Fellowship medallion, etc...
#12
Tim said:

PS I get my enjoyment for seeing PVPs complain that people are having fun else were and won't play with them.

The PvPs just bring out their blues for the first 10 minutes of invasion and clear the mages then laugh at the rest for cleaning up spawn. Rinse and repeat. 
#13
Would LOVE to see Banes come back since i missed it on the original release

#14
jelinidas said:
Tim said:

PS I get my enjoyment for seeing PVPs complain that people are having fun else were and won't play with them.

The PvPs just bring out their blues for the first 10 minutes of invasion and clear the mages then laugh at the rest for cleaning up spawn. Rinse and repeat. 

Hopefully, for future added content the mechanics for drops will change, and we will never see this type of things happening again, where a few players using more advanced and expensive templates/pets all geared and scrolled up hoard 90%+ of the drops leaving the rest of players empty handed...

That is at least what I gather from the transcripts that I could read of Developers' answers to players' Queries in this regards, at the latest Catskills meet and greet.
#15
my question was simply asking to know the date the event will end for people to rush it or not....i really hate the way 3-4 days prior ending they announce it
#16
Hopefully we'll get more of an advanced notice as I still haven't got a full 50 sdi yet nor a 30. The invasion is at the point where when I get on nobody is doing it-- only at hot times does it get done.

Agree with others, leave it on unless we're getting other events turned on, which I hope we do get the other stuff as this one is definitely got me burnt out. 😂
#17
popps said:
jelinidas said:
Tim said:

PS I get my enjoyment for seeing PVPs complain that people are having fun else were and won't play with them.

The PvPs just bring out their blues for the first 10 minutes of invasion and clear the mages then laugh at the rest for cleaning up spawn. Rinse and repeat. 

Hopefully, for future added content the mechanics for drops will change, and we will never see this type of things happening again, where a few players using more advanced and expensive templates/pets all geared and scrolled up hoard 90%+ of the drops leaving the rest of players empty handed...

That is at least what I gather from the transcripts that I could read of Developers' answers to players' Queries in this regards, at the latest Catskills meet and greet.

I've been getting drops from every General (including Mages) with 5 skilled up Wolf Spiders on my Disco/Tamer while having my 4x120 Bard/Mage buffing/healing them with Provo Masteries. Each Wolf Spider is dealing 100-130 damage a hit to a discoed General, so 500-650 damage every 1.25 secs. The Generals just melt once my Wolf Spiders get on them. Not even Sampires spamming DS nor 120 Chiv+AI Tritons can compete with that.
Doesn't take any real crazy gear, template, or scrolled up pets for that.
#18
Overall, very disappointed in the invasions.  Expected an event in which I would have a fair chance to get an invasion spell book.  Did not expect an event enabling one class of players, tamers with powerful pets, to loot all of the spell books in the first 15 minutes of an event lasting over two hours. Would have liked this event to be more like the Tokuno event which allowed all players an opportunity to earn a reward they could use. What I see here is a small group of players getting the bulk of the books.  Would have preferred an event in which players either had a random chance of getting a book from any general they helped slay or in which they would get some sort of cumulative credit based on rank of the soldiers they they had fought and the amount of damage they had done.  Also, don't quite understand why the final boss just gives out the same stuff I get from anything else I slay just more of it.  Would expect the boss to give out something unique to the event and useful.
#19
popps said:
jelinidas said:
Tim said:

PS I get my enjoyment for seeing PVPs complain that people are having fun else were and won't play with them.

The PvPs just bring out their blues for the first 10 minutes of invasion and clear the mages then laugh at the rest for cleaning up spawn. Rinse and repeat. 

Hopefully, for future added content the mechanics for drops will change, and we will never see this type of things happening again, where a few players using more advanced and expensive templates/pets all geared and scrolled up hoard 90%+ of the drops leaving the rest of players empty handed...

That is at least what I gather from the transcripts that I could read of Developers' answers to players' Queries in this regards, at the latest Catskills meet and greet.

I've been getting drops from every General (including Mages) with 5 skilled up Wolf Spiders on my Disco/Tamer while having my 4x120 Bard/Mage buffing/healing them with Provo Masteries. Each Wolf Spider is dealing 100-130 damage a hit to a discoed General, so 500-650 damage every 1.25 secs. The Generals just melt once my Wolf Spiders get on them. Not even Sampires spamming DS nor 120 Chiv+AI Tritons can compete with that.
Doesn't take any real crazy gear, template, or scrolled up pets for that.
@PlayerSkillFTW

Out of curiosity, how do you get by with walking around with 5 Wolf Spiders at the start of a Town Invasion when the spawn is heavy and your 5 pets get all aggroed by this and that spawn as you walk looking for Mage Generals ?

I assume that this might slow you down a whole lot and, thus, make it way hard to find Mage Generals before others who can just ride their pet and run fast all over the place can find them before you....
#20
You find the general with one toon. Then gate the spiders in. Or you could use 5 pet balls.
#21
Arnold7 said:
Overall, very disappointed in the invasions.  Expected an event in which I would have a fair chance to get an invasion spell book.  Did not expect an event enabling one class of players, tamers with powerful pets, to loot all of the spell books in the first 15 minutes of an event lasting over two hours. Would have liked this event to be more like the Tokuno event which allowed all players an opportunity to earn a reward they could use. What I see here is a small group of players getting the bulk of the books.  Would have preferred an event in which players either had a random chance of getting a book from any general they helped slay or in which they would get some sort of cumulative credit based on rank of the soldiers they they had fought and the amount of damage they had done.  Also, don't quite understand why the final boss just gives out the same stuff I get from anything else I slay just more of it.  Would expect the boss to give out something unique to the event and useful.

That's so far off base. I used a melee toon with a sword and gotten 10 books the first week or so without trying to much. I haven't did an invasion since May 20th and came way with a nice stack of books. 

That is a peerless boss and you can get artifacts, I did... 
#22
Arnold7 said:
Overall, very disappointed in the invasions.  Expected an event in which I would have a fair chance to get an invasion spell book.  Did not expect an event enabling one class of players, tamers with powerful pets, to loot all of the spell books in the first 15 minutes of an event lasting over two hours. Would have liked this event to be more like the Tokuno event which allowed all players an opportunity to earn a reward they could use. What I see here is a small group of players getting the bulk of the books.  Would have preferred an event in which players either had a random chance of getting a book from any general they helped slay or in which they would get some sort of cumulative credit based on rank of the soldiers they they had fought and the amount of damage they had done.  Also, don't quite understand why the final boss just gives out the same stuff I get from anything else I slay just more of it.  Would expect the boss to give out something unique to the event and useful.

Most Tamers are getting out damaged by Sampires spamming Onslaught+DS against the Generals. The only Tamers that are out damaging Sampires, are the very few using 5 Pack Instinct creatures, such as myself. I too would prefer it though if any General had a chance of dropping any weapon, including Spellbooks.
The Boss at the end has a much higher chance than Peerlesses to have a 30/30 Crafting Talisman as loot. They have the same kind of loot as Peerlesses, but in much higher quantity and intensity.

Pawain said:
You find the general with one toon. Then gate the spiders in. Or you could use 5 pet balls.

This ^. I use my Bard/Mage to locate the Mage Generals, then i gate in my Disco/Tamer with the 5 Wolf Spiders in. If i find an Archer General after the Mages are down, then i'll also gate in my Thrower. Got 8 Bane Soul Glaives now.
#23
I just came back from not playing for 20 years on LS. I don't have a tamer and at first I was a bit annoyed the invasion seemed just a tamer event but as I get to know the game again I see there is alot more to UO. Not sure if the invasions happening now are the same ones you were talking about in June but I've been enjoying them so I'll be sad to see them go. I don't get to the see the highest loot but from picking up a few things dropped or left on the ground I figured it had to be some good stuff I wasn't seeing. Since many things are priced at levels I never dreamed of during the early days of UO I appreciate what I find. And I can handle the lesser mobs during the invasions so when the invasions are gone LS will be pretty quiet and I'll be reduced to standing in the Luna parade line silently thinking I guess. And just a word, overall there hasn't been much friendliness shown or even communication since I arrived and I try to help out with heals and such. This can't be good for new (and probably young) players looking for the social element. For me, being 64 I can adapt to whatever.
#24
I need to concur with what @Jeddak is saying and I also hope, for a number of reasons, that the Town Invasions will be let continue at least until September when I understand there will be a new Publish with actual new content....

The main reason to let them continue, I think it is that they are a perfect environment setting and spawn for new or returning players who need to work their skills up, their pets' skills up, make some gold to get started...

That is, is my point of view, letting the Town Invasions keep going until actual, new content is ready to be released sometimes in September I understand, would help players just returning or new to Ultima Online to get a head start and thus want to stick playing the game, it would help Tamers train up their new tames and thus enhance their stables, I mean, it would be a beneficial situation for the game, overall....

Sure, I can understand that by now that there may be players tired of going to them but hey, they do not have to do them.... they can leave them to all other players who, instead, can still enjoy participating in them.

@Mesanna , @Bleak , @Kyronix , can we please see the Town Invasions be let going some more, until some actual, new content will be ready to get published to replace them ?
#25
We defended our cities and drove back the hoards in masses.  End this thing and give us back our cities.
#26
Or switch to the event that gave out Serpent Jawbones.
#27
I think the upcoming Publish 109 may address what comes after invasion:
Dynamic Treasures and Champ Spawns.


Without this, they would need to re-activate old events or else spend quite a bit of time to do backend work for new events.

What this may mean also is that, we could be getting more events soon... So maybe as some said, the current invasion may not end until Sep or as and when Publish 109 is approved to proceed.

I think we should all help to test out the new dynamic system and see if it works, and what are the bugs.


#28
I could complain that because I have a job, I wasn't able to farm as many books and crap as I would like to have, but I won't do that. You're welcome.
#29
I could complain that because I have a job, I wasn't able to farm as many books and crap as I would like to have, but I won't do that. You're welcome.

No worries, you didn't miss anything. I spend 30mins to prepare to take on the Champ and died in 2 seconds. It sure meets the usual event-level standard, such as creating ghosts quickly and insurance scam...
#30
For developing players like myself, I have been playing Ultima Online for about a year and a half, I would like to see the Invasions continue.  When the invasions started I had hoped to get some spell books but I discovered early on that my character had little or no chance of getting a book.  The more experienced players leading the charge into the cities often cleaned out the mage generals before I had a chance to even find one.  Some of these players now appear now to have lost interest I don't see them participating anymore.  For me, that means I have a chance to get spell books.  With fewer players participating,  moderately advanced players like myself now have a chance to get spell books and I am now averaging about 1 book per invasion (that's about one or two books a night when I have the time).
I enjoy doing the invasions because they give me a chance to work with and get to know other players.  I really appreciate this.  I really enjoy working with one or two other players to bring down a general.  I am also learning a lot more about my character and how to play it.  So for developing players like myself,  I would ask that the invasions continue for awhile.

#31
Arnold7 said:
For developing players like myself, I have been playing Ultima Online for about a year and a half, I would like to see the Invasions continue.  When the invasions started I had hoped to get some spell books but I discovered early on that my character had little or no chance of getting a book.  The more experienced players leading the charge into the cities often cleaned out the mage generals before I had a chance to even find one.  Some of these players now appear now to have lost interest I don't see them participating anymore.  For me, that means I have a chance to get spell books.  With fewer players participating,  moderately advanced players like myself now have a chance to get spell books and I am now averaging about 1 book per invasion (that's about one or two books a night when I have the time).
I enjoy doing the invasions because they give me a chance to work with and get to know other players.  I really appreciate this.  I really enjoy working with one or two other players to bring down a general.  I am also learning a lot more about my character and how to play it.  So for developing players like myself,  I would ask that the invasions continue for awhile.

That is what I was trying to say when I added my voice that I also think the Town Invasions should be let continue, at least, until sometimes in September when brand new content, I understand, will be released to Ultima Online....

Besides the reasons that you and other players have been pointing out in support of letting the Town Invasion keep going, it is not to be downplayed the importance that these spawns are for new and returning players who need to train up their characters or their pets.

The variety of the spawn is a great setting for training various templates and pets up and thus, can help new and returning players to actually stick playing Ultima Online as their characters and pets progress.

Frankly, I do not see the point of why to stop them when their continuing can be so beneficial for Ultima Online.
#32
popps said:
That is what I was trying to say when I added my voice that I also think the Town Invasions should be let continue, at least, until sometimes in September when brand new content, I understand, will be released to Ultima Online....


New content?  Just more pumpkins. and artisan trees.  Maybe I missed something?

#33
I am tired of pumpkins. And there is a bug with pumpkins on EC, after placing sometimes you see it sometimes it disappears in the house.

I am also tired of bugs.
#34
popps said:
That is what I was trying to say when I added my voice that I also think the Town Invasions should be let continue, at least, until sometimes in September when brand new content, I understand, will be released to Ultima Online....


New content?  Just more pumpkins. and artisan trees.  Maybe I missed something?

We've updated our classic holiday events with new rewards because, as it so happens, they are quite popular and players often request new rewards for them, so we oblige that.

The other half of the publish is devoted to how we implement content.  The dynamic tools form the basis of that.  As an example, your average Treasures event probably takes me around a 5 days to fully implement, not counting any design work that has to be done to figure out what is going in the Treasures event.  Again, not counting the design work that same implementation now takes about an hour.  So ya, it's not as headline grabbing as I'd like but it's a huge step in providing more events with customized rewards without the traditional backend that bogs down our dev cycle.
#35
*hits like button*

Wait wrong forum. Would some one flip the switch for this please 
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#36
Arnold7 said:
I am now averaging about 1 book per invasion (that's about one or two books a night when I have the time
I haven't gotten a single book!
🙁((((((((((((
#37
Kind of glad these have ended but sort of wish they had continued.  I enjoyed the actual two to six hours of game play, but the poorly thought out reward system allowing a small number of players to loot almost all of the spell books in the first fifteen minutes of the invasion really frustrated me.  Really hope never to see this kind of reward system again.
It also seems strange to me that this games owners would allow these spell books to be sold by those third party vendors we are not suppose to buy from.  But as I search the web I see the books for sale on at least several sites.  I don't see many books on my shard's vendor search. So for players on my shard that didn't get many or any books their only source of the books they need are those third party vendors.
I would hope that in the future the reward systems be designed to benefit all players and not just the few.  Would also hope that in the future Ultima Online find a way to make these books available to all players either through a anniversary token or some sort of quest.
Sorry Eye that you did not get any books.
 


#38
Arnold7 said:
Kind of glad these have ended but sort of wish they had continued.  I enjoyed the actual two to six hours of game play, but the poorly thought out reward system allowing a small number of players to loot almost all of the spell books in the first fifteen minutes of the invasion really frustrated me.  Really hope never to see this kind of reward system again.
It also seems strange to me that this games owners would allow these spell books to be sold by those third party vendors we are not suppose to buy from.  But as I search the web I see the books for sale on at least several sites.  I don't see many books on my shard's vendor search. So for players on my shard that didn't get many or any books their only source of the books they need are those third party vendors.
I would hope that in the future the reward systems be designed to benefit all players and not just the few.  Would also hope that in the future Ultima Online find a way to make these books available to all players either through a anniversary token or some sort of quest.
Sorry Eye that you did not get any books.
 


I would hope that in the future the reward systems be designed to benefit all players and not just the few. 
I totally agree.

I find the criteria to award the drops to the highest damagers absurd, since it gives more stuff to those who already have plenty....

I mean, if they can do the most damage, it likely is because they have scrolled up characters and using expensive, high end gear and weapons or fully scrolled up pets...

They have it all and the game gives them more rather then instead favouring new and returning players who actually more need those drops ?

Makes no sense to me.

I hope that the Developers, @Bleak , @Kyronix , will rethink the way that drops are awarded and will find a new mechanics which will not most always favour those who already have it all because, at least to my thinking, this mechanics does not help Ultima Online gain player base as then, new and returning players would always be at a gross disadvantage towards getting drops as compared to older, more established players....

Also, another thing which needs to be addressed is items being farmed on low population Shards to then go to Atlantic to be sold there....

This causes a shortage of items on all low population shards where it becomes very hard, if not impossible, to find anything up for sale since most everything farmed there ends up on Atlantic....

I would like to see a whole lot Shard Bound items as drops....

I am not saying that any and all items that drop should be Shard Bound, just saying that there should be a random chance for the same one item drop to spawn as Shard Bound or not and this, which Shard Bound having a higher chance.... say, like 70% Shard Bound vs. 30% Shard Transferable if not even 80% vs. 20%.

This, because since items farmed on Lower Population Shards all end up on Atlantic, even with a low chance to spawn, like 20% or 30% chance as "Transferrable Items", if one takes into account all other Shards, the amount of items that could still be taken to Atlantic would be still massive and, thus, Atlantic would not suffer any shortage.

Yet, the rest of the Shard Bound items spawned would ensure that "Local" players on those Low Population Shards, would be able to find items up for sale on their Shard when they need to....

@Bleak , @Kyronix , any chance that we might see something along these lines be implemented please ?

Thanks !
#39
Worked for me. I got over 150 books this time. I have plenty of 44 thru 47 books to give to new or returning players. I lost 8 48 thru 49 books because I put them in a different chest and forgot to lock it down...  I don't collect the slayer books so I gave away a bunch of those.

Also have bane bows to last for years.

I got plenty of cloth from cloaks.

The system worked fine if you understand the mechanics.
#40
sorry to say the invasions are gone (at least in Lake Superior). Main reason I resubbed as I like content that shows up in non dungeon areas. They've announced the orc dungeon event (without noting it's location). Must be a common knowledge thing if you been playing over the last few years. I was gone for 20. Yes, I'm old.
#42
If I was a gamblin' man... I'd guess that the "orc dungeon event" might be in... well... the orc dungeon maybe?? 
@Jeddak - All kidding aside, you can easily get to the orc dungeon by using a corrupt dungeon crystal which many people have locked down in public houses. Just say "dungeon orc" and you will be teleported. Happy hunting.
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