While I am patiently waiting for this quest to be activated on Origin, I was pondering.
Now this quest is needed for both the Caddelite crafting AND the Halloween content....does it have to be done on each character you will be using or is it an account-wide type of quest?
I will be using my crafter..obviously...but also want to bring my other characters down into the dungeon when that is active...will I have to do this quest on all of my characters?
this is a very good question
No, you can do it once on a character and that will allow all your characters access to the event area - sort of. Once you complete it the reason why will become apparent. It's a fairly skill-independent quest though in terms of difficulty.
I'm stuck! I need someone better at puzzles than me to solve it *cries*
I think I know the letters and number for the lock - if I'm right that's 5 of them, how many different combinations of 5 are there? Several thousand I bet?
You do? We are stuck on that part....and how did you get 5? We were thinking 4....4 cities, 4 mourners.....I am not a good detective lol
5 numbers would allow 10k permutations.
so need an alpha numeric code to open the trap door
super confused on where to go from here on finding out what said code would be...looks like a nice little let's sit back and wait for someone smarter faster prettier with more gold and skill solve it time for me
Ya How did you get 5, this is driving me NUTS
AH COME ON! Give me a hint!!?? Please!!?? I have tried everything, I am so bad with puzzles!
where is the quest starting point?
can we assume that other shards will be able to start the gumshoe quest sometime today?
All the information? Here in the GY?
Has the quest been enabled on Pacific? I get the message: "I'm sorry. I have nothing for you at this time." when I try it through either the Vesper or Britain Town Cryer on Trammel.
you need to use the menu? it's on the top of his list.
Just had a thought, is there a clue in what the mourners say? I've noticed them saying things, but not recorded what they said.
I am clicking on the first item on the menu and it still says I don't have anything for you...
it is not working on sonoma still so im trying to figure it out on origins and before you ask i ave plenty of room for quests the guy just doesnt have anything for me
I have no quests on the context menu
probably not the right quest arc, but i trigger senses books have been disturbed at moonglow lyceaeum.
between not being able to get the quest on my home shard and not having a functioning character on any other shards i'm about ready to call it done
I've confirmed that other quests from the Crier are accessible...just not the top one.
I"m just going to keep sighing until this either starts working, or my wife gets home.
For the shards where Publish 101 was not previously deployed, you will be able to accept the quest after the next maintenance. Seems the employees of the Town Cryer are having a slow news day. In the meantime feel encouraged to visit Origin, Baja or Izumo for an early look! Sorry for the delay, still plenty of time left to loot the Treasures of Khaldun!
Update: Good news! The Criers located at the Britain Commons (Britain Bank on Seige) have gotten back to work, and will be offering the quest shortly!
So it's "after next maintenance..and then 24 hrs after that" ? got it.
There's a damaged gravestone and a hidden trap door in the graveyard of each of the 4 named cities.,
I'm not so sure, I thought maybe the original tombstone was a hint to look in those other cities. Not any further forward having found them all though 🙁
The quest appears to be available on other shards now, but only from Brit commons crier.
Looking at the last names makes me think they are anagrams....
the clue to the code i'm sure is in the text also, one said about an immeseurable char count, another about the first letter to the right, another about shift. I'm no good at cryptic clues.
I"m sure you're getting ahead, I would think the opening quest would be regarding britain gy only...idk though..then I thought Born in vesper, so I ran around looking for anything related to his birth...nada...and didn't continue on that path though.
good grief, not a code breaker. anyone have any luck yet?
There’s a 6 and a 5 in it somewhere.
That wouldn’t have happened if it was in fel.
I dunno. did not try fel. I was going to just get to the mining part but was hoping someone would figure out this terrible code.
I tried stealth-ing my thief in but no luck. I also looked around the Sacrifice alter and around Shame thinking those words in the grave digger's dialog meant something.
I need someone to explain to me why the lock says its an alpha numeric type lock, yet apparently the code doesn't have numbers ? Because either I"m really stupid, or what I just said is correct. I'm sorry but trying to figure this out all day only to find out someone had to use a websight just makes me want to log out....like forever.
That was my point, it was misleading af...
Okay so the book in the Lyceum moves around and with the time delay on detect it is VERY difficult to find it...just a heads up
The surnames are a Caesar cypher, there are websites that will do it for you, or you could give it to an 8 year old to do as their homework.
I completed the quest and still can not get in. And Jasper will not let my character do the quest again. This is on Pacific. Should I wait awhile?
I had already been to that other website last night and nothing it gave me even looked like words, but wait the answers weren't normal words and one seems to be spelled wrong too! You couldn't make this stuff up...
is there a trick to finding the thing at the Lyceum? or is it just an exercise in extreme frustration? I've followed the messages to 3 different locations using a char with gm detect and I still can't find anything. Being trying for almost half an hour!
Annd the penny dropped when I got the message in a classroom, no where near a bookcase. Search every bookcase in that library, not just where you get the message.
I biggest complaint of the quest was the spawn rate in the Moonglow grave yard. It needs to be dialed back. No way would my crafter have been able to deal with that. My legendary mage had a hard time until he summoned a fire elemental to take the heat off of him.
Does the necklace have any purpose for the fighting in Khaldun? And can we give the necklace to a character on another account who hasn't done the quest?
I have Problems to find the book at the moonglow lyceum. I get the *senses* message, but never found the book with detect hidden. Have i target the bookcases or the Floor to find it? Thanks for your help.
I checked the same shelf 3 times after getting the message and only the last time did I find anything, it wasn't even that close to where the message was.
With EC i did detect hidden for a longer time, but nothing. After logging to CC i found it quickly in the first room where i get the *senses* message. Maybe it was only luck ...
5 of us were there at same time. Took 3 changes to finally find the dang bookcase.
That darn book is driving me crazy!
It doesn't seem to appear in the same place on all shards, so people are reading a guide or seeing a screenshot and assuming it's in the same room but it isn't. The screenie on the other forum showed it in a room on the opposite side to where we found it.
Th book moves around. You can get the message and try and try and try..then go looking in the other rooms and get the message and find the book quite fast..
Two things I read in this thread:
1 moonglow graveyard trammel is too hard.
2 it’s too hard to sit in a town and use detect hidden...
am I playing a different game to everyone else?
Hehe moving books, I think I've entered the world of Harry Potter!
Yeah the moving book is annoying..I spent an hour and a half one night looking and gave up, the next morning I found it within 3 minutes....RNG, gotta love it! It is a bit of a pain but you know they have to make things a bit more difficult so people don't blow through the entire thing in one day. Just keep at it....I finally found mine in the room where the crypto guy is.
Well Mervyn I have fought the normal spawn in the Moonglow GY and even at the "normal" times it can get rather challenging for a crafter who btw may not have the hitting power of say a mage or fighter... you forget the average crafter has little in the way of boosts spell or fighting wise.. all those points go into crafting... so yea Moonglow GY can be tough to do if not impossible without help. So I can well imagine people asking for a dial down of the spawn a reasonable request.
It's called Ultima Online, you're not supposed to do everything on your own.
The best part is, you don't HAVE to do it on your crafter...I did and just summoned Blade Spirits and used invis a lot! Took longer but I did it.
Some people have said to search every bookcase, this is actually not the case, it is in the area of where you get the message, you will need to use detect hidden on the actual bookcase, you will have to go over each bookcase maybe 3 times. You can normally narrow it down to roughly 6 bookcases from where you get the message.
Yeah and in the bigger rooms you can't detect all the bookcases before it moves on you because of the time delay between using the skill.
It shouldn't be moving around and it should be near where you get the message, neither was the case when I found it.
Im sorry you must think all only do this 1 time around... sorry to burst your bubble when I got the messages I did the bookcases more then 5 times each in that area and then the whole room a few times too.. NO BOOK. I have reached that point where I will walk off and let it go.. its not worth the headaches, stiff neck and anger. Il let you al do the work and stuff and just buy what I want from it.. its not worth doing if I get so mad at the game I want chuck the computer!
click use skill, click bookcase, wait 10 seconds (take a sip of wine), rince and repeat. I'm not sure how you're getting a stiff neck.
when my guild was doing it, there was lot of us in the same room, only two of us found it in the same spot. when there was more people there, it jumps to another room quicker. maybe that's what it was doing for you
Why is everything so much more frustrating than it should be? Moving books are frustrating, trying to get some of the resources with only 20 skill from JoaT is frustrating, suddenly having your runes to outside of the camp stop working is frustrating! Where did the fun go?
You can gather resources with 100 skill, not sure why you’re using JoaT.
So they have expanded the area that surrounds the encampment, so no more recalling to a closer area to it, you are now forced to walk in from at least 1.5/2 screens away, therefore you must now face the Guards when entering and exiting the camp since you CANNOT recall out of the camp, therefore you MUST wear the Necklace/badge to enter and exit. However, you can recall out if you are INSIDE the dungeon entrance. Be careful if you try this with Nonmage/fighter characters as you may be greeted inside and killed. Of course, this is Tram only.
On the Fel side, there is no encampment, and you have to run in. (I checked on TC) But I have yet to check the Fel side on a prodo shard.
Um...this is in Tram??? You do know there are two facets right??
Oh wait, I forgot! People have to have SOMETHING to complain about..my bad..carry on
Very well said Mene.
This whole quest was/is enjoyable to me. Seems I am alone?
I found it very nostalgic to mine and lumberjack and enjoyed the crafting side that I normally miss out on as I already own piles of thousands of resources. It gave a sense of what it would be like when they open a non transferable fel shard, where crafting and resource gathering will be worthwhile again.
Not everyone has a crafter, not everyone has all gathering and crafting skills.
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Let us stay on topic please.
Thank you Petra but I am trying to raise lumberjacking on an old account, I won't be beaten by this event! 😂
I do have a crafter Merv I just don't have room on her for lumberjacking, please give it a rest, you are just trolling now!
The Hiding and Stealth skills did come in handy in the cemeteries for my other characters. Just could not move fast and had to take lots of breaks to keep stealth engaged.
Please keep the thread topical.
Would be nice if whoever placed the house INSIDE the Glow cemetery to block the view of the trapdoor could get banned forever and ahve that house demo'd
My suggestion, Lady Storm, is to wait until the book moves into the back room where the Cryptologist is, there are less bookcases to search back there and it's a bit easier.
You guys REALLY need a like button...
Anyway, I've done it on both elven and human characters with 0 skill. The first day I searched for an hour and a half and gave up, the next morning I found it within 3 minutes. Since then I have been able to find it in a reasonable amount of time...less then 10-15 minutes and in different rooms, I only suggest waiting until it's in the back room due to the fact that there are fewer bookcases to search.
I’ve already said it but it seems it’s necessary to repeat. I am enjoying this quest, think it’s quite interesting and well thought out, I’ve had no problems locating the book. Very impressed with the caddellite buff. Not so pleased with the tram only camp oversight. Impressed with the quick fix on recalling into the camp.
would like to see caddellite armour be necessary to resist Khaldun creatures.
Despite finding the new content a bit frustrating (I am now GM lumberjack so I can move on!) I do think a lot of thought and work went into the quest and the crafting part. We all make a fuss and whine and get annoyed but we do appreciate the time and effort spent by the Dev team on our behalf. I think the Detective part was maybe badly worded in a couple of places and the moving book is making some people a bit crazy but overall the ideas were good, so thank you all for your hard work.
Kyronix should get the title 'The Unflappable' no matter what is said to him or how it is said he never loses his cool, he is a true gentleman! 🙂
Make sure you are clicking the books and not the top of the shelf.
Ya lucky I have soul stones to transfer my 100 DH to other characters other wise I would be a bit POed as well
I have done this quest on 4 characters, 3 humans and one elf, all with ZERO detect hidden and have completed it each time.
I managed it with no detect hidden it only took about 20 minutes to find the book, but we did search the same shelf 3 times.
The book part of the quest is very not fun & annoying...respectfully. We don't all have 5 hours to look for it.
Any suggestions please? I just came back a few days ago & have been doing the Gumshoe Quest.
My gargoyle character gets NO message when looking for the book. I've clicked Harrison numerous times & get his gump telling me to look for the book. I've tried on foot & flying (thought maybe flying was bugged). I've run around the Lycaeum for hours over 2 days now & not once gotten the "Your keen senses..." message.
I've tried detect hidden each bookcase regardless of never seeing the message, to no avail.
Any possible help to get this quest finished would be GREATLY appreciated.
I'm about to give up.
You have to buy points in DH from an NPC for a Gargoyle to find the book.
Ok... I oil clothed off my savage paint, soulstoned off a skill, went & bought 29 Detect Hidden from the Guildmaster Thief in Cove then went back to the Lycaeum.
Found the book after getting the "Your keen senses...." message on the 1st bookcase I clicked. Wasn't aware you needed actual Detect Hidden skill since I'd been able to do the quest up to this point w/ zero real skill.
*Problem Solved*
Thanks for letting us know. Now I just have to avoid spoilers until tomorrow *laughs*
Drakelord, there is another thing about getting passed those guards.. if they are not looking at you, I ran right by them. marked a rune and was able to recall in at will. however you can not get passed them on the way out.. have to recall out... but i did buy all the tools needed before i left. 