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What we allowed to talk about?

Started by Yoshi · 2023-07-24 · 54 posts · General Discussions
#0
“How come there are allowed to be 2 active threads on trammel related topic (idoc) changes when it involves 3rd party client scripters

yet if you mention that same topic for fel related issues, posts get deleted, threads get closed, threats get sent via DM

i don’t see anything in the TOS that mentions trammel having an exemption from rules

considering also, this happens at idocs in trammel maybe 2 or 3 times a day, compared to every single encounter with someone in fel every 30 seconds someone uses a script



Also, i thought once Mesanna has spoken that is it, end of any debate and you have to email if you have problem or anything for next 10 years and threads insta closed (EG people cheating by logging out when dead to prevent their pet dying)
even when there has been a patch update on that very issue.. notably pub 114 adding 5 min cool-down on command undead and dryad allure
or other publishes where pets no longer go wild even so completely negating that avenue of a possibility of a pet being ‘lost’
plus patch where dead pets now auto come to your location when logged in when going through subserver

That is my experience with forum rules and thread closures”
#1
We have two active threads.... ??? Wow!!! There's something like that here - with the constant Rocky-Horror-Picture-Show aka Yoshi-Grimbeard-Pawain daily SoapOpera-Talkshow ??? ;)

I have not even noticed!!! Is yes - highly interesting   ... - how is it that hardly anyone notices - only you @Yoshi????

#2
😂

Hmm Im here as well ;)
#3
Daily Podcast is coming soon!!!!

Call it The Three Stooges?
#4
"most my posts debunking Pawain
who say everything working as intended"
#5
@Mesanna plz insert own Forum for this Podcasting ;)
#6
" @Pawain @Grimbeard you got discord?
we could record some discussions/arguments"
#7
#9
LMAO
#10
"also, there is SUPPOSED to be a cool-down on shurikens
yet there is a bypass that is used on the cool-down,

let us imagine the way the idoc script worked was it just repeated trying to place (which it doesn't, but imagine the cool-down actually stopped scripters)
imagine if the scripters just used multiple tools to by-pass cool-down.

well this is what is happening with shurikens/fukiya darts and devs don't give a flying f, scripters just use multiple belts to avoid the cool-down
and it's all day, not just once every 6 hours at idoc"
#11
Nope I picture you as Larry @Grimbeard
#12
Pawain said:
Nope I picture you as Larry @ Grimbeard
That's why you're curly 
#13
Grimbeard said:
Pawain said:
Nope I picture you as Larry @ Grimbeard
That's why you're curly 
I'm OK with Curly.

I have the Woop-Woop Woop-Woop-Woop down.
#14
“let us bear something in mind

i suggested that you should be able to log out with your char instantly during combat (since you can with pets)
https://forum.uo.com/discussion/12726/log-out#latest

and this suggestion is closed as is apparently just a troll
doesn’t that tell you something? 

Yes thread was not for real suggestion as it was to prove a point of how ridiculous it sounds.



Let me ask a question. If when they introduced the pet auto stabling, they - right from day 1 made pets only autostable when your char logged out (and not instantaneously)

and I came along and made a thread to say that I think pets should go instantly to stables even during combat to stop them dying (even if I am aggressor with my pet) and that tamers should die during connection loss/power outage (as pets stop guarding them)

that thread for sure 100% would be closed immediately and deemed a troll also no?”
#15
the horse is dead
#16
Skett said:
the horse is dead

Actually it was saved by logging out.  😂
#17
😂 😂 😂
#18
Given that I see an entire front page of non-locked threads, seems like an awful lot.

EDIT: Ok not an entire front page, but the great majority of it.

Most of the locked threads I've seen are pretty clearly designed to get locked.
#19
*Logs out of Forum to save sanity*
#20
“Darn, people gonna miss your advice about needlessly see sawing skills like it’s 1999”
#21
*Logs out of Forum to save sanity*
Noooooo - then you might not be able to stay logged in the next time you use Chrome!  :#
#22
“The one and only argument that people had against pet remaining in game until char logs out

was an unlikely fear that pet could go wild during this 5 mins

well guess what, that has gone now, what else you got?”
#23
Given that it's one of the very few definitive things that Mesanna has spoke about, saying at a M&G at some point that "we won't be changing that", I think energy would be better used to focus on the other grey area stuff like can we actually use 3rd party programs without accounts being actioned?

If that's the case then we should be able to open discuss here which I think would be a good thing to help the common player with stupid repetitive things like resource gathering etc.
#24
“I see you have fallen into Mariah’s misinformation trap
Mesanna, 3 years ago, was taking about when someone asked about people logging their pet to retrieve it from a stuck location
Nobody ever mentioned getting rid of that feature, especially me.
its just a trick Pawain etc do as a play on words to relate one unrelated thing to another. If you see the full transcript the guy asking the question was talking about this. And NOT logging out to prevent it dying.

I was in complete agreement with Mesanna on that issue



let me ask a question though, is there some sort of cheat that a 3rd party can do to prevent pet from dying? 
No, nothing in the 30+ pages of scripts I’ve seen is that big of a cheat

being able to get advantage in house placement once every 6 hours is nothing compared to how often people be logging out to prevent pet death”


#25
“Here it is
Meet and Greet 9/28/2020 Great Lakes:

Watcher: one big vote for not to remove the login to retrieve pets fix
Watcher: last week was at EM event with monsters that shove you away from them
Mesanna: we are not touching that
Watcher: pet was shoved into an inaccessible wall area at gargoyle shrine
Watcher: only way was to log in and out to retrieve the pet
Watcher: in ilshenar
Watcher: so thats for leaving that in!



They 100% talking about logging out to retrieve it from a stuck location which i am all for. And have always been all for.
i only interested in cool-down same as publish 114 for dryad allure/command undead to prevent people logging out to prevent death without affecting this

but the disinformation warriors don’t show you the full transcript or try and make out falsely that it was ever suggested by anyone to remove login to retrieve pet - is lies

Show me post where it said to remove it

If I was Mesanna, and someone asked me same question, I would respond exactly same as Mesanna, she give good answer to the question, same as I would give, and then later correctly went on to adjust log out cool-down to some followers,
but should be extended to all”
#26
🙁
#27
"I guess i am just bias because
I have trained veterinary to 120"
#28
Yoshi said:
“Here it is
Meet and Greet 9/28/2020 Great Lakes:

Watcher: one big vote for not to remove the login to retrieve pets fix
Watcher: last week was at EM event with monsters that shove you away from them
Mesanna: we are not touching that
Watcher: pet was shoved into an inaccessible wall area at gargoyle shrine
Watcher: only way was to log in and out to retrieve the pet
Watcher: in ilshenar
Watcher: so thats for leaving that in!



They 100% talking about logging out to retrieve it from a stuck location which i am all for. And have always been all for.
i only interested in cool-down same as publish 114 for dryad allure/command undead to prevent people logging out to prevent death without affecting this

but the disinformation warriors don’t show you the full transcript or try and make out falsely that it was ever suggested by anyone to remove login to retrieve pet - is lies

Show me post where it said to remove it

If I was Mesanna, and someone asked me same question, I would respond exactly same as Mesanna, she give good answer to the question, same as I would give, and then later correctly went on to adjust log out cool-down to some followers,
but should be extended to all”
Are the tamers really beating you so badly?  Are you just driven to insanity by not being able to kill thier pet ? Why of all the hills you can die on is this your go to? 
#29
Grimbeard said:
Yoshi said:
“BLAH BLAH BLAH”
Are the tamers really beating you so badly?  Are you just driven to insanity by not being able to kill their pet ? Why of all the hills you can die on is this your go to? 
A friggen MEN Grim
#30
"instead ask why certain people are going so far out of their way to stop common sense? as to lie and manipulate people so they can carry on cheating in a game

then again i also think cannons should need cannonball to deal damage too, so i must be completely in the wrong, that thread got locked too
again i must just be bias cos i have blacksmith"
#31
Yoshi said:
"instead ask why certain people are going so far out of their way to stop common sense? as to lie and manipulate people so they can carry on cheating in a game

then again i also think cannons should need cannonball to deal damage too, so i must be completely in the wrong, that thread got locked too
again i must just be bias cos i have blacksmith"
You are the only liar here, advertising and telling players they must use a third party client to play UO.  Ill give it a few minutes before we hear more lies about this from you, you cant resist it.
#32
Pawain said:
You are the only liar here, advertising and telling players they must use a third party client to play UO. 

"no comment

hey Pawain, if they fixed nerve strike debuff bug, how long before you would even notice?
prob never
must be nice in your little tower"
#33
Yoshi said:
Pawain said:
You are the only liar here, advertising and telling players they must use a third party client to play UO. 

"no comment

hey Pawain, if they fixed nerve strike debuff bug, how long before you would even notice?
prob never
must be nice in your little tower"
Now nerve strike that's a hill for you 
#34
"if i see my neighbour kick his dog,

I shouldn't rebuke him because there are people starving in Africa that i should concentrate on?

I just don't like people cheating

nobody disputing nerve strike debuff bug (nobody who counts) devs just don't currently have the time to fix anything"
#35
Yoshi said:

devs just don't currently have the time to fix anything"
So the two latest fixes are our imagination?

They fix using their priority list. Thank God they do not use yours.
#36
Pawain said:
So the two latest fixes

"what are the two?


the last bug that was fixed from one of my reports, was bug that stopped you mounting horse when in combat mode on classic client,
funny nobody complain about that fix

and hey, that stops your pet dying - during legit non cheating gameplay where owner is logged in"
#37
Yoshi said:
“Darn, people gonna miss your advice about needlessly see sawing skills like it’s 1999”
As opposed to listening to your Whines. 

#38
Every one step back and take an ice bath. Personal attacks get threads locked.
#39
TimSt said:
Every one step back and take an ice bath. Personal attacks get threads locked.
Then we couldn't get an accurate measurement.
#40
"I don't whine or express opinion about anything

I write only factual information

not my fault moderators only like some facts and not other facts"
#41
Yoshi said:
"I don't whine or express opinion about anything

I write only factual information

not my fault moderators only like some facts and not other facts"

#42
“I hear rumour that they made a second stealth change to IDOC

I hope this is not the case

or this would be pure hypocrisy
if forum moderator treated all topics equally then Mesanna had spoken on that issue and no more discussion should even have been allowed

i not interested in trammel idocs

i merely query the original action and advise of facts about game mechanics even though it’s not my area of expertise

how they can now accept my feedback (which I shouldn’t have even been allowed to post if forum mod was being consistent with their censorship) on an issue of idocs and implement change immediately on something in trammel that happens like 2 times a day but not understand more important issue of pet logging which occurs more often and much more serious than who wins Luna musical chairs

(if rumours are true of another change)”

#43
Gesicht mit verdrehten Augen Emoji  Bedeutung Kopieren   The boy urgently needs some fresh air again !!!

#44
They announced the housing timer.

Then today they changed where you can mount a pet or ethy.  Go to shadowguard, yamitsu mines, or underwater and try to mount an ethy or pet.

They don't announce to you, 

Opps wrote this a while back for Yoshi but it did not post, probably some conspiracy involved in it not posting...
#45
Scripters aren't mounted now if they make it so no packies in heartwood that would make sense. If it's strictly for the ethy mounting to no it's time to place its a failure as they don't need to mount 
Just that they can
#46
Pawain said:
They announced the housing timer.

Then today they changed where you can mount a pet or ethy.  Go to shadowguard, yamitsu mines, or underwater and try to mount an ethy or pet.

They don't announce to you, 

One would think that since they attempted a stealth change after their announcement that failed, they would give some sort of update about what they were looking to do. A simple update saying "we are aware or an issue with mounting in X that we are looking to fix" or "players are no longer able to mount in X due to Y". 
edited by Mariah
#47
keven2002 said:
Pawain said:
They announced the housing timer.

Then today they changed where you can mount a pet or ethy.  Go to shadowguard, yamitsu mines, or underwater and try to mount an ethy or pet.

They don't announce to you, 

One would think that since they attempted a stealth change after their announcement that failed, they would give some sort of update about what they were looking to do. A simple update saying "we are aware or an issue with mounting in X that we are looking to fix" or "players are no longer able to mount in X due to Y". 

They do not announce fixes to exploits. Yes it's called private ownership for a reason. 

I also do not go to restaurants where I do not like the food. I suppose you do seeing how you continue to subscribe to UO.
#48
Pawain said:
I also do not go to restaurants where I do not like the food. I suppose you do seeing how you continue to subscribe to UO.
My 6 month renewals have been stopped due to lack of content / effort from the Dev team this year. I'm down to a single account right now from many accounts previously. I've played maybe 30 hours total since Jan 1 and feel like I could've easily saved myself 8 months of a subscription and not missed a single thing. 

Many others are doing the same so if that trend continues, your favorite poorly run restaurant is going to be out of business regardless of how much you try to act like it's good.

Pawain said:

They do not announce fixes to exploits. Yes it's called private ownership for a reason. 


Who said they fixed an exploit? Their post simply said "they made a change to the house placement due to a large amount of complaints". You are assuming it was due to an exploit. Again, the Dev team is silent so you have no clue if that's true or not. Isn't it funny how lack of communication works against you yet again when you are the one saying they don't need to update us ever? 
#49
keven2002 said:
Who said they fixed an exploit? Their post simply said "they made a change to the house placement due to a large amount of complaints". You are assuming it was due to an exploit. Again, the Dev team is silent so you have no clue if that's true or not. Isn't it funny how lack of communication works against you yet again when you are the one saying they don't need to update us ever? 
Some of us have read the many posts here about the same parties getting all the houses that fall. 

There was a large amount of complaints. And some are intelligent enough to understand what they were trying to do.  They just chose to do something  that does not stop the house players.  When they heard mounting an ethy was involved, they tried to stop that.

Glad you learned something today.
#50
Pawain said:
keven2002 said:
Who said they fixed an exploit? Their post simply said "they made a change to the house placement due to a large amount of complaints". You are assuming it was due to an exploit. Again, the Dev team is silent so you have no clue if that's true or not. Isn't it funny how lack of communication works against you yet again when you are the one saying they don't need to update us ever? 
Some of us have read the many posts here about the same parties getting all the houses that fall. 

There was a large amount of complaints. And some are intelligent enough to understand what they were trying to do.  They just chose to do something  that does not stop the house players.  When they heard mounting an ethy was involved, they tried to stop that.

Glad you learned something today.
None of what you said made any sense at all...as per usual. 

Keep assuming things and spouting nonsense as if they are facts. I bet you were probably the best at playing the game telephone as a kid; you seem to love to change the story up regardless of the facts.
#51
keven2002 said:
Pawain said:
keven2002 said:
Who said they fixed an exploit? Their post simply said "they made a change to the house placement due to a large amount of complaints". You are assuming it was due to an exploit. Again, the Dev team is silent so you have no clue if that's true or not. Isn't it funny how lack of communication works against you yet again when you are the one saying they don't need to update us ever? 
Some of us have read the many posts here about the same parties getting all the houses that fall. 

There was a large amount of complaints. And some are intelligent enough to understand what they were trying to do.  They just chose to do something  that does not stop the house players.  When they heard mounting an ethy was involved, they tried to stop that.

Glad you learned something today.
None of what you said made any sense at all...as per usual. 

Keep assuming things and spouting nonsense as if they are facts. I bet you were probably the best at playing the game telephone as a kid; you seem to love to change the story up regardless of the facts.
So there was a guy on Lake Austin that kept placing houses every 10 seconds so they had to put a timer on the tool?

 😂  😂 😂  
#52
“Pawain remind me of people who watch a 10 min Tedtalk and start lecturing people with a degree in the field"
#53
Please Treat ALL Posters with Respect and Courtesy
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