Sampire question

“For doing spawns, with whirlwind weap, one’s sampire has hit area, 
it’s okay to also have hit spell?
If so what spell should sampire hit?”

This is a good place to ask questions about sampys 

https://discord.gg/vxKYcMDb

Yoshi said:

“For doing spawns, with whirlwind weap, one’s sampire has hit area, 
it’s okay to also have hit spell?
If so what spell should sampire hit?”

Pvm weapons are very slayer specific so spell would depend on monsters fire vs cold etc

“Are there any known negatives to any hit spell on weapon with hit area?
Specifically for doing spawns”

Yoshi said:

“Are there any known negatives to any hit spell on weapon with hit area?
Specifically for doing spawns”

No pvm vs a spawn you don't worry about flagging infact you want to agro and draw as much spawn as possible 

Yoshi said:

“it was test question to test player knowledge base.

I imbued 50 hit lightning on PvM weapon and i never heard of this complication before.

I noticed something odd before when enemy player summons pixies and i do whirlwind and it only kills 1 pixie....

Thankfully you can change hit lightning to hit fireball with imbueing no problem"

What MAP are you using

So this only affects mobs that die to the original weapon damage and Hit spell?

The next level of the spawn would probably benefit from the original weapon since it does more damage?

I like the way you go after the Pixies while we go after the dark wisps.

“yes and no,

the lightning hits before the actual weapon damage so on first level spawn the main weap hit won’t even proc, sounds strange.
And also if the mob is low health (damaged), there’s always a danger the hit lightning will kill the mob, on higher level spawns when you’re receiving more damage, this can be a bad problem.

but I am surprised to learn something about PvM that is not already in someone’s literature”

Yoshi said:

“yes and no,
If the mob is low health (damaged), there’s always a danger the hit lightning will kill the mob, and on higher level spawns when you’re receiving more damage, this can be a bad problem.

but I am surprised to learn something about PvM that is not already in someone’s literature”

I dont use a Sampire for anything. Bandages work fine, I also think Hit spells do not do enough damage so I use other things on weapons.

I only build for weapons for mobs with ???? HP I don't sweat the mobs with less HP, they die just fine.

So never occurred to me that players built weapons for rat men and such.

“I don’t read these things about hit spell in sampire discord
Or anywhere, why everyone keeps so much secret information?

Not a secret, you have to weigh the mods and how they benefit you. Hit spell only increases your damage, but when you factor in your base hit + Hit area effect going off, adding a hit spell is pretty insignificant. 



Having hit lightning would have done another 80 total damage at best. 40 on average for this scenario. 

King_Greg said:

Not a secret, 

“can you please show me where i can read about hit lightning hitting multiple and fireball hitting single target with whirlwind?

nothing in the player written guides I read

Yoshi said:

King_Greg said:

Not a secret, 

“can you please show me where i can read about hit lightning hitting multiple and fireball hitting single target with whirlwind?

nothing in the player written guides I read

(also, if you have really high spell damage increase the hit spell can hit a lot harder)
“

Sdi doesn't effect weapon spell damage 

Using a hit spell weapon better dmg with sdi? 

Yoshi said:

King_Greg said:

Not a secret, 

“can you please show me where i can read about hit lightning hitting multiple and fireball hitting single target with whirlwind?

nothing in the player written guides I read

(also, if you have really high spell damage increase the hit spell can hit a lot harder)
“

Not in any guides. I knew about the double strike handicap to hit fireball but never thought about it for whirlwind. The only reason I know about the fireball aspect is that I was playing when they changed the code because of players alternating magic arrow and nether bolt while using mage weapon boomerangs with hit fireball on them. 

As to the Sdi, would need to do some more testing, but even in the situation I posted, having 100% sdi would still only be another 40 damage on average. For the investment to hit 100% Sdi, it's not worth it, you would have to sacrifice too much. There is nothing on that suit that I would trade for sdi. 

Single target hybrid sdi + Combat mysticism build using enchant could be interesting. Don't have to sacrifice weapon mods, still get the hit spell. 

All knowledge is welcome in UO, Learn new things even after playing for 20 years. 

Confirmed, sdi does effect hit spell damage.