Anything going to be done about the sampires running on atlantic hythloth 24/7?

Several of them, paged on them all multiple times, GMs dont do anything??

Drops should be cheap then.

They probably answered the  GM when he asked a question.

People have multiple monitors now. Can run many accounts if you are coordinated.  I can sit and watch my three guys die a lot.

Is it illegal to have a Sampires on Atl?

What's your point on this "username"?  

what are they doing wrong in your opinion?

And what template are YOU running? surely you are getting drops?

I jump on Atl with a fully trained Samp and get 10/15 drops in about half hour other players do not affect my gameplay here

Let me rephrase: the same handful of characters run around on Atlantic 24/7 unattended lol 

IE: bots

Look for less populated by players areas in the dungeon.  Don’t carry anything you care about when you look for these areas as paras spawn at random locations in this dungeon.  I have found a couple rooms that average players can farm most of the time.

username said:

Several of them, paged on them all multiple times, GMs dont do anything??

im guessing your referring to the 2 that run the script in lvl 2 to in the room on the end, and yes most of the time they are afk, several times ive gone down there and the ghost of their swampies are there, couple times i died near there went over to that room and their ghosts are there goin threw the motions of their script.
but what about the one dude who scripts 6 accounts with the CU's? they wont do anything about him either, think about it if they ban those 8 accounts thats quit a bit of money they be losing every month. not goin to happen, so just gotta learn to ignore them.

Whitewolf said:

username said:

Several of them, paged on them all multiple times, GMs dont do anything??

im guessing your referring to the 2 that run the script in lvl 2 to in the room on the end, and yes most of the time they are afk, several times ive gone down there and the ghost of their swampies are there, couple times i died near there went over to that room and their ghosts are there goin threw the motions of their script.
but what about the one dude who scripts 6 accounts with the CU's? they wont do anything about him either, think about it if they ban those 8 accounts thats quit a bit of money they be losing every month. not goin to happen, so just gotta learn to ignore them.

Or the player answers the question from the GM. If they don't answer the GM would send them to jail.

"Have you tried killing them?, or you're talking about trammel?"

Yoshi said:

"Have you tried killing them?, or you're talking about trammel?"

Maybe they didn't get fel on their shard 

"He said Atlantic, there is fel event on Atlantic"

Yoshi said:

"He said Atlantic, there is fel event on Atlantic"

Well if you have to ask i assume you meant either tram or another shard as i assumed you have killed them yourself 

"only if they haven't paid the ferryman"

username said:

Several of them, paged on them all multiple times, GMs dont do anything??

Hello, please, next time please. Post reporting with subjects including keywords like BOTS, cheats and exploits will gather the right attention to target bad players. 

You post Sampires, do you want to remove good players from 50% of population and shut down the game forever.

how about they disable the 2D auto follow feature in the event dungeons?

how about they add auto follow to EC?

all that being said, if people respond to GM's there isn't much that can be done. use player justice and drag a few paras over to them. If they are there, they can page on you for luring mobs to them

JackFlashUk said:

how about they disable the 2D auto follow feature in the event dungeons?

Can't do this or the EJ accounts be useless then...

“a few people got banned last night”

Yoshi said:

“a few people got banned last night”

He thinks a few people got banned last night merv/yoshi has no way to know unless he's lost another account...

“had 3 guild mates banned, but no i have no way to know…”

Yoshi said:

“had 3 guild mates banned, but no i have no way to know…”

Ah yes it's always your "friends" running illegal programs getting banned maybe you should keep better company...

Norry said:

how about they add auto follow to EC?

all that being said, if people respond to GM's there isn't much that can be done. use player justice and drag a few paras over to them. If they are there, they can page on you for luring mobs to them

Best option here is, if you feel like they're cheating page and move on. Don't let someone else ruin your day and luring onto them is just as illegal as what they may or may not be doing. 

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Norry said:

how about they add auto follow to EC?

all that being said, if people respond to GM's there isn't much that can be done. use player justice and drag a few paras over to them. If they are there, they can page on you for luring mobs to them

Best option here is, if you feel like they're cheating page and move on. Don't let someone else ruin your day and luring onto them is just as illegal as what they may or may not be doing. 

So, basically, one should let the cheaters cheat and turn the head the other side ?

Ahem, OK..........

Rather than reply anymore i shall post pictures of my puppy

popps said:

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Norry said:

how about they add auto follow to EC?

all that being said, if people respond to GM's there isn't much that can be done. use player justice and drag a few paras over to them. If they are there, they can page on you for luring mobs to them

Best option here is, if you feel like they're cheating page and move on. Don't let someone else ruin your day and luring onto them is just as illegal as what they may or may not be doing. 

So, basically, one should let the cheaters cheat and turn the head the other side ?

Ahem, OK..........

You seem to have misread Victim's post, I have highlighted the word you missed.

Petra_Fyde said:

popps said:

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Norry said:

how about they add auto follow to EC?

all that being said, if people respond to GM's there isn't much that can be done. use player justice and drag a few paras over to them. If they are there, they can page on you for luring mobs to them

Best option here is, if you feel like they're cheating page and move on. Don't let someone else ruin your day and luring onto them is just as illegal as what they may or may not be doing. 

So, basically, one should let the cheaters cheat and turn the head the other side ?

Ahem, OK..........

You seem to have misread Victim's post, I have highlighted the word you missed.

Thanks for replying my friend, I would most likely have replied with something that skirted the ToS and gotten the thread locked. 

popps said:

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Norry said:

how about they add auto follow to EC?

all that being said, if people respond to GM's there isn't much that can be done. use player justice and drag a few paras over to them. If they are there, they can page on you for luring mobs to them

Best option here is, if you feel like they're cheating page and move on. Don't let someone else ruin your day and luring onto them is just as illegal as what they may or may not be doing. 

So, basically, one should let the cheaters cheat and turn the head the other side ?

Ahem, OK..........

So you can't read.  He clearly said PAGE

McDougle said:

Yoshi said:

“had 3 guild mates banned, but no i have no way to know…”

Ah yes it's always your "friends" running illegal programs getting banned maybe you should keep better company...

Those programs are probably being run by everybody in that guild, so they can all be equal, they were just the 3 that got caught.  DEVs to check out that guild and monitor them.  He already admitted to cheating https://forum.uo.com/discussion/comment/65164/#Comment_65164 

McDougle said:

Rather than reply anymore i shall post pictures of my puppy

They're so cute when they're asleep, and not chewing the rugs.

Well I thought I had seen it all....
right now on Atl level 3 in the room with stairs to level 4. 

JackFlashUk said:

Well I thought I had seen it all....
right now on Atl level 3 in the room with stairs to level 4. 

Gargoyle at the centre of a mass group of stone firm mystics spamming colossus spells with archers in for good measure with me Necro and  a bard The most outrageous multi box I have ever seen.  When something spawns they all fire off like machine guns.  No way on earth someone can do all that 

in fact 5 para barons and elders that were being moved got absolutely annihilated by this auto targeting group.  

So people don’t even hide illegal activity now

go check it out. It’s ridiculous  

Felucca or Trammel?

Not much spawns there. Seems like a waste of that many resources unless they have someone bringing spawn to them.

1 player can handle that rooms spawn and the Tele room next to it.

They should move to level four.  🙂

Pawain said:

Not much spawns there. Seems like a waste of that many resources unless they have someone bringing spawn to them.

1 player can handle that rooms spawn and the Tele room next to it.

They should move to level four.  🙂

They should move to fel, one whole person on Fel side. 

Either they didn't like having an audience, or someone paged on them.

Ya with no spawn in fel, we find out that they only wanted  the event in fel if there were champ spawns so they could farm drops.  PvP had nothing to do with it. All of them should be also in fel, but the spawn mobs are not tagged with the dungeon event name.

Pawain said:

Ya with no spawn in fel, we find out that they only wanted  the event in fel if there were champ spawns so they could farm drops.  PvP had nothing to do with it. All of them should be also in fel, but the spawn mobs are not tagged with the dungeon event name.

I'm not sure i am following you, are you saying Atl Fel doesn't have the event?

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Pawain said:

Ya with no spawn in fel, we find out that they only wanted  the event in fel if there were champ spawns so they could farm drops.  PvP had nothing to do with it. All of them should be also in fel, but the spawn mobs are not tagged with the dungeon event name.

I'm not sure i am following you, are you saying Atl Fel doesn't have the event?

You said only 1 person was in fel. 

JackFlashUk said:

Well I thought I had seen it all....
right now on Atl level 3 in the room with stairs to level 4. 

Gargoyle at the centre of a mass group of stone firm mystics spamming colossus spells with archers in for good measure with me Necro and  a bard The most outrageous multi box I have ever seen.  When something spawns they all fire off like machine guns.  No way on earth someone can do all that 

in fact 5 para barons and elders that were being moved got absolutely annihilated by this auto targeting group.  

So people don’t even hide illegal activity now

go check it out. It’s ridiculous  

so with the EC, you can alter your macro file to make it repeat 1000 times. target next, so on. 1 key press. same with the RC. just drop a bagball on the tile he summons at. he can be there with a long macro and its legit. all they have to do is answer the GM.

Been checking the last 3 days and yep same handful of sampires down there 7am, noon, 4pm, 8pm, midnight, and inbetween. Running on a rail, barely slow down to attack things, and if they get below 50% health run to entrance. Obvious cheating, never talk to people (ran after them spamming their name to get attention, nothing). Page on them every time lol no one gives a shit anymore. Biggest offender's name is "Kandaria" on Atlantic, go look and enjoy them running around all day every day red plate and a halberd.

This just proves how much of the population cheats.... auto attack stacks of archers, groups of 5+ multiboxed sampires moving around in sync the dungeon clearing everything, same with groups of archers all moving on the same tile/attacking in sync, people attacking things constantly IMMEDIATELY as they spawn.

Yea, time to throw in the towel @Mesanna and stop making events for cheaters and feeding RMT'ers. Scrap "shard bound", time to embrace "account bound". Every other mmo has stuff like this and these events would benefit from them.

Pawain said:

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Pawain said:

Ya with no spawn in fel, we find out that they only wanted  the event in fel if there were champ spawns so they could farm drops.  PvP had nothing to do with it. All of them should be also in fel, but the spawn mobs are not tagged with the dungeon event name.

I'm not sure i am following you, are you saying Atl Fel doesn't have the event?

You said only 1 person was in fel. 

ok I get it now, the Champ Spawn Mobs aren't "demonic Forces" creatures and don't offer the drops. rough day yesterday and my reading comprehension was failing me.

I prefer a game that does not alter content and mechanics based on trying to end cheating.  It only makes the game less enjoyable to non cheaters.

Pawain said:

I prefer a game that does not alter content and mechanics based on trying to end cheating.  It only makes the game less enjoyable to non cheaters.

I absolutely agree,

These attempts to "fix" cheating, to my opinion, really do not do much to cheaters, especially scripters who do not use their time at the keyboard, but let scripts run for them AFK.

Take for example the Resources from Mining, Lumberjacking and Stone Mining.

They were randomized, I understand, to address some players who were script harvesting them AFK.

Result ?

The legit players got hurt really badly, because now, to get the Ore, Wood, Stone that they needed, it took them a whole lot more of their time at the keyboard making it, for some players without so much time at hand, prohibitive....

Scripters, instead, kept running their scripts 24/7 without caring what type of Ore, Wood or Stone they got... they just piled it up, and eventually got all types they wanted in the quantity they wanted...

Who cares if it took more time, they did not spend their real time at the keyboard, but had AFK scripts doing it for them....

Take then the changes to Tamers which hurt this very popular gameplay a whole lot, to my opinion...

Paragons revealing across walls, corners at 12+ tiles distances, retargeting onto the Tamer, having ridicolous speed which a Tamer on foot, controlling a 5 slots non-rideable pet, could not outrun...

This, to address scripters who'd farm AFK....

Well, did it "fix" the problem ?

Not by a tiny bit, I seem to understand from all of the Posts coming up on the Forums about AFK scripters here and scripters there running multiple characters at once thanking to Third Party applications who can control them all at once...

Yet, legittimate Tamers were hurt a whole lot by this "fix" which did not fix much in regards to AFK scripters, to my impression...

Personally, I think all of these attempts as solutions which achieve nothing or not much.

What would be really necessary, is to identify the use of Third Party applications which permit such AFK scripting and the control of multiple characters all at once, and ban these accounts, as well as those other "Main" accounts which benefit from all of this AFK scripting and farming since the actual accounts used for the AFK farming, are usually "throw away", disposable EJ free accounts....

Hurting with "fixes" legittimate players and doing not much to address the actual problem of AFK scripting because the "source" of this in-game behaviour, those Third Party applications used to do it, is not addressed, I do not think is the correct approach to solve this problem.

Just get to the source of it.... find a way to identity accounts using these Third Party applications to AFK script, and ban them as well as their "Main" accounts which benefit from this against the TOS in-game activity.

What do you think, @Kyronix ; ?

Why are EJ accounts eligible to get drops during these dungeon events?

ForeverFun said:

Why are EJ accounts eligible to get drops during these dungeon events?

It is important, to my opinion, that Endless Journey Accounts can benefit from their gameplay and time spent in the game.

The desire for wanting to subscribe an account, comes from playing AND getting benefits from that playing...

I think that Endless Journey accounts already have enough (and quite heavy) penalties, there is no need, to my opinion, to further penalize EJ accounts.

What is necessary, instead, in my opinion, is to have a way to "see" that players are using, against the TOS, Third Party Utilities and ban these accounts, whether EJ or subscribed for engaging in in-game behaviour that is against the TOS.

McDougle said:

Still cute, but like I said, much cuter when they’re not chewing the rugs

McDougle said:

I have to ask...what kind of dog is that??

He is SO freaking adorable! He...she? Looks like a stuffed animal! Beautiful markings! And I love the little white paws! This thread needs more cuteness! 

The blue eyed speckled floppy eared carpet chewer mutt.

Tries to pretend he is But he is 

She is a devil dog !! She's golden retriever Heller and catahoula 

my hound

popps said:

Pawain said:

I prefer a game that does not alter content and mechanics based on trying to end cheating.  It only makes the game less enjoyable to non cheaters.

I absolutely agree,

These attempts to "fix" cheating, to my opinion, really do not do much to cheaters, especially scripters who do not use their time at the keyboard, but let scripts run for them AFK.

Take for example the Resources from Mining, Lumberjacking and Stone Mining.

They were randomized, I understand, to address some players who were script harvesting them AFK.

Result ?

The legit players got hurt really badly, because now, to get the Ore, Wood, Stone that they needed, it took them a whole lot more of their time at the keyboard making it, for some players without so much time at hand, prohibitive....

Scripters, instead, kept running their scripts 24/7 without caring what type of Ore, Wood or Stone they got... they just piled it up, and eventually got all types they wanted in the quantity they wanted...

Who cares if it took more time, they did not spend their real time at the keyboard, but had AFK scripts doing it for them....

Take then the changes to Tamers which hurt this very popular gameplay a whole lot, to my opinion...

Paragons revealing across walls, corners at 12+ tiles distances, retargeting onto the Tamer, having ridicolous speed which a Tamer on foot, controlling a 5 slots non-rideable pet, could not outrun...

This, to address scripters who'd farm AFK....

Well, did it "fix" the problem ?

Not by a tiny bit, I seem to understand from all of the Posts coming up on the Forums about AFK scripters here and scripters there running multiple characters at once thanking to Third Party applications who can control them all at once...

Yet, legittimate Tamers were hurt a whole lot by this "fix" which did not fix much in regards to AFK scripters, to my impression...

Personally, I think all of these attempts as solutions which achieve nothing or not much.

What would be really necessary, is to identify the use of Third Party applications which permit such AFK scripting and the control of multiple characters all at once, and ban these accounts, as well as those other "Main" accounts which benefit from all of this AFK scripting and farming since the actual accounts used for the AFK farming, are usually "throw away", disposable EJ free accounts....

Hurting with "fixes" legittimate players and doing not much to address the actual problem of AFK scripting because the "source" of this in-game behaviour, those Third Party applications used to do it, is not addressed, I do not think is the correct approach to solve this problem.

Just get to the source of it.... find a way to identity accounts using these Third Party applications to AFK script, and ban them as well as their "Main" accounts which benefit from this against the TOS in-game activity.

What do you think, @ Kyronix popps said:

Pawain said:

I prefer a game that does not alter content and mechanics based on trying to end cheating.  It only makes the game less enjoyable to non cheaters.

I absolutely agree,

These attempts to "fix" cheating, to my opinion, really do not do much to cheaters, especially scripters who do not use their time at the keyboard, but let scripts run for them AFK.

Take for example the Resources from Mining, Lumberjacking and Stone Mining.

They were randomized, I understand, to address some players who were script harvesting them AFK.

Result ?

The legit players got hurt really badly, because now, to get the Ore, Wood, Stone that they needed, it took them a whole lot more of their time at the keyboard making it, for some players without so much time at hand, prohibitive....

Scripters, instead, kept running their scripts 24/7 without caring what type of Ore, Wood or Stone they got... they just piled it up, and eventually got all types they wanted in the quantity they wanted...

Who cares if it took more time, they did not spend their real time at the keyboard, but had AFK scripts doing it for them....

Take then the changes to Tamers which hurt this very popular gameplay a whole lot, to my opinion...

Paragons revealing across walls, corners at 12+ tiles distances, retargeting onto the Tamer, having ridicolous speed which a Tamer on foot, controlling a 5 slots non-rideable pet, could not outrun...

This, to address scripters who'd farm AFK....

Well, did it "fix" the problem ?

Not by a tiny bit, I seem to understand from all of the Posts coming up on the Forums about AFK scripters here and scripters there running multiple characters at once thanking to Third Party applications who can control them all at once...

Yet, legittimate Tamers were hurt a whole lot by this "fix" which did not fix much in regards to AFK scripters, to my impression...

Personally, I think all of these attempts as solutions which achieve nothing or not much.

What would be really necessary, is to identify the use of Third Party applications which permit such AFK scripting and the control of multiple characters all at once, and ban these accounts, as well as those other "Main" accounts which benefit from all of this AFK scripting and farming since the actual accounts used for the AFK farming, are usually "throw away", disposable EJ free accounts....

Hurting with "fixes" legittimate players and doing not much to address the actual problem of AFK scripting because the "source" of this in-game behaviour, those Third Party applications used to do it, is not addressed, I do not think is the correct approach to solve this problem.

Just get to the source of it.... find a way to identity accounts using these Third Party applications to AFK script, and ban them as well as their "Main" accounts which benefit from this against the TOS in-game activity.

What do you think, @ Kyronix  ?

Use a mountable pet... And don't run... And has kyronix ever responded to your endless tags?

While the pet pictures are very nice, they're not really on topic. Can we desist with them please? or start a designated thread for them.

“I am AFK farming with a tamer so I am not sure what popps is going on about.
Unlike sampires I don’t even have to leave for repair”

Yoshi said:

“I am AFK farming with a tamer so I am not sure what popps is going on about.
Unlike sampires I don’t even have to leave for repair”

I find that kinda difficult, at least with 1 Tamer only.... considering that Paragons reveal the Tamer across Walls and at some 12+ tiles distance...

Yoshi said:

“I am AFK farming with a tamer so I am not sure what popps is going on about.
Unlike sampires I don’t even have to leave for repair”

So you openly admit to cheating

Lord_Frodo said:

Yoshi said:

“I am AFK farming with a tamer so I am not sure what popps is going on about.
Unlike sampires I don’t even have to leave for repair”

So you openly admit to cheating

He's not necessarily cheating...he could be in the same room watching TV and occasionally glance over at his computer.

If I push my computer chair back 2 feet, technically I am *AFK*

AFK can mean a lot of things so don't assume he's cheating.

Yoshi likes to bait 

Larisa said:

Lord_Frodo said:

Yoshi said:

“I am AFK farming with a tamer so I am not sure what popps is going on about.
Unlike sampires I don’t even have to leave for repair”

So you openly admit to cheating

He's not necessarily cheating...he could be in the same room watching TV and occasionally glance over at his computer.

If I push my computer chair back 2 feet, technically I am *AFK*

AFK can mean a lot of things so don't assume he's cheating.

LOL You seriously believe that. You must have some very short arms only being 2 feet away.
AFK away from keyboard.

• Definition - What does Away From Keyboard (AFK) mean? Away from keyboard (AFK) is a type of chat lingo that shows a user is stepping away from a hardware device. It was often used in chat rooms and bulletin board systems in the early days of internet chat, to let people know when someone was available and ready to respond to text messages.

AWAY to or at a distance from a particular place, person, or thing.  If you can respond to your computer than you ARE NOT away from it are you.

OH I took my hands off the keyboard to take a bite of a roll and drink more coffee so I must be AFK because I am not touching my keyboard, kind of like your 2 foot rule, stupid.

Kill the spawn before the pet auto targets, problem solved.

Yoshi said:

"the paragons cannot open doors,

I farmed over 500 drops from afk on a tamer (using no illegal programs/scripts)"

Paragons may not, but players do....

And Hythloth can be quite crowded at times....

To get 500 drops takes many hours... and, without auto-insuring them (cannot do without illegal programs/scripts), 1 AFK death, if one does not get back to one's own corpse before it decays, can mean all the drops received in tha time frame to go "poof"......

And if one "keeps an eye" to the screen, well, is that really AFK ? 

Lord_Frodo said:

Larisa said:

Lord_Frodo said:

Yoshi said:

“I am AFK farming with a tamer so I am not sure what popps is going on about.
Unlike sampires I don’t even have to leave for repair”

So you openly admit to cheating

He's not necessarily cheating...he could be in the same room watching TV and occasionally glance over at his computer.

If I push my computer chair back 2 feet, technically I am *AFK*

AFK can mean a lot of things so don't assume he's cheating.

LOL You seriously believe that. You must have some very short arms only being 2 feet away.
AFK away from keyboard.

• Definition - What does Away From Keyboard (AFK) mean? Away from keyboard (AFK) is a type of chat lingo that shows a user is stepping away from a hardware device. It was often used in chat rooms and bulletin board systems in the early days of internet chat, to let people know when someone was available and ready to respond to text messages.

AWAY to or at a distance from a particular place, person, or thing.  If you can respond to your computer than you ARE NOT away from it are you.

OH I took my hands off the keyboard to take a bite of a roll and drink more coffee so I must be AFK because I am not touching my keyboard, kind of like your 2 foot rule, stupid.

Okay here is a visual just for you, I hope it helps 🙂

Just one example of what Mervshi might be doing...Sittin watchin Football...or whatever it is that he might like to watch on TV......



(Don't hate on my leet paint skillz )

Anyway it's neither here nor there...just do as Pawain says and kill the stuff before the people you claim are cheating do, because THAT is fun!

current list of bots on Atlantic level 1, more to come?

I wrote this post while AFK

Suspected... bots...

Yoshi said:

"I obviousely do return to the keyboard occasionally to insure items/res"

Well, then it is not a "full" AFK where one goes to sleep or something else while UO keeps running to get drops....

More like a "semi" AFK where one keeps an eye to the UO screen while doing something else in the vicinity or, goes back to UO every few minutes to check how's it going and to insure drops... 

This forum is not the correct place to report this activity. Proper channels exist, please use them