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Destard is an AFK scriptfest. not fun

Started by Smoot · 2022-04-27 · 40 posts · General Discussions
#0
Sit in one spot and spam any AOE spell
turn ins appear in pack
event over

yes, theres always scripters but this event is best played AFK.  its basically impossible to even play a normal character because of the lag caused by automated grinders.

i wouldnt want a new player or a vet coming back to even see whats going on.  
#1
We do not have that issue in Fel,  Oh wait they did not add Fel this time so looks like this event is over for me. 
#2
plus the eggs, which 90 percent are sucked up by rail accounts.  this is the most script friendly event ive ever experienced.
#3
The irony of the goldseller calling out the scripter is both PRICELESS and REALLY sad. They both should be banned. Plus, the "endless scripter" accounts shouldn't even be allowed to participate. You want the rewards, pay the subscription fee. @Kyronix @Bleak @Mesanna
#4
I would have to agree that at least 50% of the players doing this event are using an illegal program.

I haven't stepped one foot back in Destard since the Curio Collector came...Eggs I can get lol, competing with what is happening in the dungeon I cannot.

Maybe change the spawn? Having it all spawn clumped up in one area over and over might not be the best idea.

Otherwise everything else I  have enjoyed very much!
#5
Larisa said:
I would have to agree that at least 50% of the players doing this event are using an illegal program.


"I am farming afk using Pinco's UI, is that okay?"
#6
Yoshi said:
Larisa said:
I would have to agree that at least 50% of the players doing this event are using an illegal program.


"I am farming afk using Pinco's UI, is that okay?"
Sounds like an admission of guilt 
#7
Yoshi said:
Larisa said:
I would have to agree that at least 50% of the players doing this event are using an illegal program.


"I am farming afk using Pinco's UI, is that okay?"
I said ILLEGAL Program.....you can read right?

I said 50% for a reason....geesh Mervshi get with the program.
#8
Yeah it’s really bad. It seems like a failure on ATL. 
#9
I don't play Atl, but every shard I went to Destard on last night, we all had a blast.  Even if there were scripters there, it didn't stop me from getting tons of turn ins.  I died like a thousand times, but still good solid fun.  I think I got around 15 in an hour, so there seems to be plenty of time to get everything you want out of the event.
#10
looks like the spawn rate, at least in some spots has been adjusted.  Thankyou devs for your quick response.   lag isnt nearly as bad now.
#11
Smoot said:
looks like the spawn rate, at least in some spots has been adjusted.  Thankyou devs for your quick response.   lag isnt nearly as bad now.
All this does is cater even more to the bots you say are scripting.... someone like myself who is only using 1 account has had my drops slashed to a fraction of what it was before. So now the honest person working the event is penalized because they aren't multi-boxing 5 accounts that don't move (ie the same exact recipe as it always is for these events). 

@Kyronix / @Mesanna - if you guys are going to decrease the spawn rate in ATL like it seems like you did then can you please open up Fel for us so that I do not need to deal with the scripter bots? 
#12
keven2002 said:
Smoot said:
looks like the spawn rate, at least in some spots has been adjusted.  Thankyou devs for your quick response.   lag isnt nearly as bad now.
All this does is cater even more to the bots you say are scripting.... someone like myself who is only using 1 account has had my drops slashed to a fraction of what it was before. So now the honest person working the event is penalized because they aren't multi-boxing 5 accounts that don't move (ie the same exact recipe as it always is for these events). 

@ Kyronix / @ Mesanna - if you guys are going to decrease the spawn rate in ATL like it seems like you did then can you please open up Fel for us so that I do not need to deal with the scripter bots? 

pretty much every event is afk scripted to some extent.  i dont like that, but know it wont be eliminated entirely. 

its usually more drops per hour playing attended, but as it was it was more drops per hour afk, because the spawn rate was so high and playing normally wasnt even possible because of the lag.  So for now im happy with it. 

i agree that this event, and any global event should be on fel side as well.
#13
Spawn rate was fine. The issue was everything in one spot.  The spawn area and both water ele areas had very few spawning Feys.
#14
Yep that's what I kept saying, everything spawns in and around the entrance and leading to lvl 2 and hardly anything in the rest of the dungeon. If they would just spread it out and utilize the entire dungeon that would be fine...weird that they didn't :/
#15
For me it's still laggy (on ATL) and honestly it's the same amount as it was before if not worse. So now instead of lagging out and getting rewarded for dealing with AOL Dial Up lag in 2022... we get to collect death robes and hopefully come out with 5-10 drops per hour?

No thanks. 

If they can't severely reduce the lag (ie open up Fel or spread the spawn out) or undo whatever change they did to cripple the spawn rate then I'll probably just take a break for a few weeks until people get fed up with it and the bots get all their drops and just buy anything else I need from them.
#16
I don't know why they wouldn't open up fel to begin with, at least on ATL. Horrible rollout and execution by the dev team. Space out the spawn and most importantly open up fel on ATL. This will limit the multi-boxers ability to sit in one place for a lengthy amount of time.
#17
WELP I've asked for these drops/rewards to become account bound numerous times but everyone says "no thanks", blows me off and refuses. So now you all reap what you sew.
Account bound, NOT shard bound, was/is the way to go.
#18
I got 69 drops from an unattended scripter I'm guessing.  Was just a bag on the ground.  I'm guessing they didn't want to lose them when they inevitably died and didn't insure.
#19
username said:
WELP I've asked for these drops/rewards to become account bound numerous times but everyone says "no thanks", blows me off and refuses. So now you all reap what you sew.
Account bound, NOT shard bound, was/is the way to go.
Account and shard bound would make me happy, but if the proposal is one or the other, I'd rather shard bound.
#20
Would be nice to see some notes on what exactly was changed because I feel like there is more lag now in every other part of the dungeon than before. I went to the back of the dungeon after netting zero drops in 20min on my sampire in the front and there was literally like 10 things to kill in the entire back part of destard (where champ spawn is in Fel).

Wish I had some sort of recording software to show how pathetically dead it is back there. I'm not sure how this event would be any different than the previous 4 versions of it given they did an entire year dedicated to building "dynamic content" which is essentially drop in ready... but apparently it is different and to be brutally honest it's been a rough start.... Everything is still primarily spawning either at the entrance or along the wall.

Either bump up to the spawn rate in the entire dungeon or open up Fel @Kyronix
#21
I used a Mystic-Mage-Spellweaver yesterday on ATL and got almost 100 drops, but my butt will attest to having played for 6-7 hours. I played near the entrance on the fringe of what in call "Reaper Valley Destard" and cast Reaper summons and Thunder and Wind spells and Faerie Fire.  Tons of peeps doing the same - if they were BOTs, I don't really care, for they were likely targets for the monsters to attack instead of them attacking me. Tomorrow I will try again and see how I do with th eslower spawn and drop rate.
#22
keven2002 said:
Would be nice to see some notes on what exactly was changed because I feel like there is more lag now in every other part of the dungeon than before. I went to the back of the dungeon after netting zero drops in 20min on my sampire in the front and there was literally like 10 things to kill in the entire back part of destard (where champ spawn is in Fel).

Wish I had some sort of recording software to show how pathetically dead it is back there. I'm not sure how this event would be any different than the previous 4 versions of it given they did an entire year dedicated to building "dynamic content" which is essentially drop in ready... but apparently it is different and to be brutally honest it's been a rough start.... Everything is still primarily spawning either at the entrance or along the wall.

Either bump up to the spawn rate in the entire dungeon or open up Fel @ Kyronix
Seriously do you have to tag kyronix in every post you do... Are you khan of sonoma twin
#23
Fortis said:
keven2002 said:
Would be nice to see some notes on what exactly was changed because I feel like there is more lag now in every other part of the dungeon than before. I went to the back of the dungeon after netting zero drops in 20min on my sampire in the front and there was literally like 10 things to kill in the entire back part of destard (where champ spawn is in Fel).

Wish I had some sort of recording software to show how pathetically dead it is back there. I'm not sure how this event would be any different than the previous 4 versions of it given they did an entire year dedicated to building "dynamic content" which is essentially drop in ready... but apparently it is different and to be brutally honest it's been a rough start.... Everything is still primarily spawning either at the entrance or along the wall.

Either bump up to the spawn rate in the entire dungeon or open up Fel @ Kyronix
Seriously do you have to tag kyronix in every post you do are ypu khan of sonoma twin

If we want information from the devs (that they're always unwilling to give...), why not tag them?  I can't believe that someone would make a comment like this.
#24
keven2002 said:
Would be nice to see some notes on what exactly was changed because I feel like there is more lag now in every other part of the dungeon than before. I went to the back of the dungeon after netting zero drops in 20min on my sampire in the front and there was literally like 10 things to kill in the entire back part of destard (where champ spawn is in Fel).

Wish I had some sort of recording software to show how pathetically dead it is back there. I'm not sure how this event would be any different than the previous 4 versions of it given they did an entire year dedicated to building "dynamic content" which is essentially drop in ready... but apparently it is different and to be brutally honest it's been a rough start.... Everything is still primarily spawning either at the entrance or along the wall.

Either bump up to the spawn rate in the entire dungeon or open up Fel @ Kyronix
You must have only stayed in the crowd yesterday. Those areas and the water ele areas were exactly like that yesterday.  I ran from the drake and water ele area through the spawn and to the other water ele area. Killed everything. Then ran back. There was nothing to kill when I got back to the start area.
#25
Larisa said:
Yoshi said:
Larisa said:
I would have to agree that at least 50% of the players doing this event are using an illegal program.


"I am farming afk using Pinco's UI, is that okay?"
I said ILLEGAL Program.....you can read right?

I said 50% for a reason....geesh Mervshi get with the program.
Playing AFK is illegal even with a legal client and Yoshi knows it.
#26
“I am still afk farming with Pinco’s, because my attendance is not currently required.
Everyone else I know is also afk farming.
But I would rather actively play. 
They would have to stop the Insta spawn in tram and open the fel spawn for that to happen and also make some artis be cursed or else I will just continue to farm afk using Pinco’s UI.

but no doubt people would complain if this happened… 
perhaps they don’t want people actively playing. I don’t know why else they have done this.
i am not understanding the point of this”
#27
He twist his own words to start trouble if pressed he replies afk doesn't mean unattended..we've seen this before 
#28
if you afk , at least on Origin, you die. No way it can me managed without use of a brain, so I don't believe you are afking, as much as you'd love everyone to believe yet another of your tales of heroics.
#29
“It is harder to die on Atl as so many people there, my char has died 1 time in the last 24 hours.
but it’s not an issue I switch on Pinco’s auto artifact insure.

I am the low hanging fruit, not using any illegal programs.
during the wildfire event, Lynk was running 3 x sampire bots in Fel that were actually harder to kill than most players, 
They auto arm when disarmed, auto evade, they don’t panic and continue to attack and run to spawn when they are under attack, they auto insured artifacts and auto looted semidar corpse of certain items, legendaries splintering etc, they automatically returned artis to the NPC when the Champ was over and automatically ressed and returned when you kill them. 
Yet you are berating people who are not watching the screen to loop one macro?”
#30
RE: Fel, perhaps the next event should *only* be in FEL.

That would sure mix up the dynamic.  Or perhaps the reds would go extinct.
#31
“the deceit and fire events, actually had an advantage to doing the event in fel as you got a lot more drops at the champ spawn.
but this actually still did not produce any pvp as the drops were insurable, none of them were prized or cursed so no reason to kill other players, just more profitable to kill monsters. Even if you kill the sampire bots, you went grey and all the legit players attacked you as they thought you were a danger to them. 
Personal opinion removed”
#32
Amazing that a person admits to cheating and the Devs or Mods do nothing @Kyronix @Bleak @Mariah and this is not the first time he has done it.  Forum Ban just like his buddy/alt, this tell new people it is ok to cheat and brings to question to the older crowd as to why we should play by the rules, does UO even care anymore.
#33
“I am checking my PC at least every 3 hours or so as my char gets too full with artis so…
it is not the players fault their attendance is not required
if you want to report me in game, I am the guy stood next to the other 50 afk guys”
#34
Some players like to play against other players, some prefer to play against the computer and some are ok playing both.  UO learned a long time ago players can choose from various alternatives so UO provided them in game.  That dos not say anything positive or negative about those that choose to play one way or another.  Thought most of these events held in Tram were also held in Fel.  Maybe they should be in both or in one of the other areas that does not have two facets.

#35
When they put them in Fel in a dungeon with no champ spawn, no one goes to Fel. It is about the greed of wanting more drops from killing low HP mobs in bulk.

Remove the dungeon tag from spawn mobs and then let it be in Fel.
#36
RE: Fel, perhaps the next event should *only* be in FEL.

That would sure mix up the dynamic.  Or perhaps the reds would go extinct.

    the scripter's voices are too loud for something as good as that to happen =[
#37
“it wouldn’t mix up the dynamic at all, we saw this with the ‘of the three’ and ‘wildfire’ event, none of the artis were cursed so there was no point in me logging on my red other than boredom of farming,
Like normal loot, a percentage of drops should be cursed, heavy!, & prized.

This was raised the last events and still no change.

but hey at this rate I can’t see people paying more than 5 mill for a fey slayer talisman etc, so I guess that is good for the people who were complaining about feeling forced to grind the event”
#38
Honestly, I will never understand why, rather then addressing the root of the AFK issue by detecting whatever account is using unauthorized Third Party software in order to be able to run the account automatedly, and banning these accounts which, to my understanding are in breach of Ultima Online's Terms of Service, it is preferred to change, modify gameplay mechanics....

Personally, I think that altered gameplay mechanics as a counter to the use of scripted Third Party ultilities, in the end, penalize, perhaps sometimes even more, also the legittimate player who does not use Third Party utilities to script and run accounts whether AFK or multiple at once.

I would very much prefer, instead, if the Developers addressed this issue by going to the root of it, that is, detect the use of not allowed Third Party utilities, and ban the accounts using them and, possibly, if these are just EJ accounts but in the end there is a "main" subscribed account that benefits from this practice against UO's TOS, ban those "main" subscribed accounts too...

That is at least my opinion of it.
#39
Be aware, If you are not at the keyboard, you are not 'playing' the game, the pc is. This is against the rules no matter whether you are using approved or unapproved programs to do so. You can be reported for doing it, and your account can be suspended, either temporarily or permanently. You flout these rules at your own risk.
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