Cu Sidhe Build Discussion and related pet information

@Larisa did you forget to feed hamster?

Sorry...I was killing Cu's trying to find a nice one...and I did!!!!! Thankfully I got on it quick....

*smiles innocently*

Maybe I hit the hamster by mistake?? It's stats were super low

But yes..it's down.

Speaking of good stats......I found one that, according to the calculator is 80.79% with 5158 intensity...is that good? I have no idea...yeah some tamer I am lol, I always just go for the ones with the most HP before tame but according to the calculator this one is super close to max...Cu that is...

*waits patiently for the hamster to re-spawn*

YAY he respawned! 🙂

I just pick the cu i get if he or she's the one for me i keep you mean you're supposed to look at stats first

LOL See that's how I've always done it.

The Cu I use now is one a friend gave me before he left the game...he's sentimental which is why I use it.

But I think my new guy is going to be much better....now I just have to find the millions of gold I need to get him scrolled up...*sighs*

I got plenty of 110s

Larisa said:

Speaking of good stats......I found one that, according to the calculator is 80.79% with 5158 intensity...is that good? I have no idea...yeah some tamer I am lol, 

That can likely be built into a very good Cu. The thing about them is their overcapped resist stats tend to inflate their intensity rating. A Cu with higher intensity but non-over capped energy and cold resist stats can be a *great* pet. 

Well his energy is 81 and cold is 83 so then it's probably not THAT good but still can be decent?

So what I want to find is one with as close to 1200 HP pre-tame (This one was 1195) and lower energy and cold?

Larisa said:

Well his energy is 81 and cold is 83 so then it's probably not THAT good but still can be decent?

So what I want to find is one with as close to 1200 HP pre-tame (This one was 1195) and lower energy and cold?

Nothing wrong with it as long the poison resist is lower than 41, you can get 80 in fire and physical.

The poison resist is 39, so that means I can overcap is fire and phys then yes?

This is the first time I've ever actually went out and started hunting for a good pet...I think that's why the shard crashed...it was in shock! LOL but the new Cu spawn is nice....don't have to deal with all those other critters in Twisted so I was able to do more.

So, and I know you have this posted somewhere but I can't find it...for Cu's what I want to look for is:

Close to max HP (1200)

Lower Energy and cold and Poison under 41.....anything else? So so the resists drop after taming as well? I never looked.

Uo.cah 

Paddy cakes has also done a lot of nice work on stratics but its not as easy to find what you're looking for 

Yeah those are the ones I was looking for..the ones Paddy Cakes wrote. UO-Cah is more like.....UOGuide? There's good info but not as much in-depth, detailed information that a forum discussion can provide. so it's nice to have so many resources but forums are the best places to get that kind of information. 

https://community.stratics.com/threads/choosing-points-for-a-cu-slot-3-to-4-1st-points-allocation.397882/

I'm looking at that one now....thing is I don't want it to be a cookie-cutter Cu so I'm trying to find variations. That one is a good one though, it will help a lot.

I say build what works for you i often come up with weird stuff that works for me until someone explains why it doesn't 

Larisa said:

I'm looking at that one now....thing is I don't want it to be a cookie-cutter Cu so I'm trying to find variations. That one is a good one though, it will help a lot.

All pets need the same base build to do the most base damage and get the most damage protection and regeneration. You can choose whatever abilties/moves/magic you want. I have a Cu with each magic and each ability that works.

Sorry the fact is AI/chiv does the most single target damage. The revamp has been out four years. Nothing new has appeared.

Call it cookie cutter or call it the best base build for the pet.

No need to get offensive! I am complimenting you on your vast knowledge of pets...I just want something a little different that still works well.

Larisa said:

No need to get offensive! I am complimenting you on your vast knowledge of pets...I just want something a little different that still works well.

Paddy cakes tolerates no fun 

Larisa said:

No need to get offensive! I am complimenting you on your vast knowledge of pets...I just want something a little different that still works well.

You can pick Lightning Force,AI then Chiv.  Prob few of those out there.  Name it Zeus.

LOL Zeus...I like that!

So in that order?

This is my current one that I use...tell me where I messed up..I just threw anything on there and whatever PS's I had at the time lol.




Oh he has AI, Chiv, Healing and bleed

Yes I recall your Dog that was burned as Pup and fears fire.

Your next one needs 700 str for max damage, 370 Intel for regen.  Only needs 5 stamina regen.  Only needs 600 HP but you can add more at the end when done with scrolls.

110 scrolls work great, most of my pets have them.

When possible put 120 in Wrestling and Parry.

Always put 120 in any magic, Magery 110 is fine, pets don't fizzle.

Mene_Drachenfels said:

Fire resi left at 38 % is naturally.... the worst you could do when most monster make fire based spells on your Pet. No wonder why he's permantly biting the grass.

Plz keep in Mind to train  your Pet first to 125 Dex before you start Pet costumizing. Don't throw points away 🙂.  And it will also be good to bring Wrestling first to GM (100), than you dont miss parry which is important for a tanking pet later and you can also plan a scroll for that.

This is one of my favorites: a black Cu with Chival and FWW Template. I love it when they do the Whirlwind - this is also very nice to see in Champ-Spawns. This is also strong enough in Solo-Fights against bigger Monsters.

This one is scrolled 110. My last i did very similiar with 115 scrolls. None of my pets have 120er scrolls feeded - to that I'm also a poor girl here and I do have other passions in UO too (Housebuildung and decorating). But all the Cu's worked fine.

This is one of my favorites: a black Cu with Chival and FWW Template. I love it when they do the Whirlwind - this is also very nice to see in Champ-Spawns. This is also strong enough in Solo-Fights against bigger Monsters.

A question, if I may....

I was told, that for Frenzied Whirlwind, a Triton would do better then a CU-Sidhe and this, because FWW is heavily dependant on Physical damage which the Triton has at 100%, while the CU-Sidhe has at 0% Physical damage..... it does 50% Cold and 50% Energy damage.....

So, I wonder, if the above holds as valid (that FWW is best with a pet that does Physical damage), how is it possible that a pet that does 0% Physical damage comes out a good pet for FWW ?

You know... you men pretty much make a science out of everything instead of just trying it and seeing what works ...You do know why the banana is crooked, right?

The Costumizing System offered that for the Cu, so that was tried and found to be good. I'm having fun with the dog, and science or not - he's doing damage and doing his thing. I don't know, and I'm not going to worry about it now - other people worry about it enough 🙂 .

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Yes I know his fire resist is low....and really he doesn't die that often...only when I'm stupid and think he's superdog or something and pit him against multiple paragons 🙂

He can handle the smaller ones like gazers and hell hounds 2 at a time as long as I can heal him but for the most part he holds his own pretty well. Yes the para hell hounds hurt him pretty good but I throw a heal or two on him and he's fine.

BUT that's why I asked...I had no idea what I was doing with him...I have been researching and I thank people like Pawain for testing things like this thoroughly. Too much math is involved and my brain shuts down. Give me quests to test, drops to test, riddles to solve and I'm good but when I see numbers my mind takes a vacation, so I have to depend on other players to inform me, so thank you!

Currently I am just trying to get him through his first round of training...and besides dread pirates and shadow ellies...is there anything else that's good to train him on?

Larisa said:

Yes I know his fire resist is low....and really he doesn't die that often...only when I'm stupid and think he's superdog or something and pit him against multiple paragons 🙂

He can handle the smaller ones like gazers and hell hounds 2 at a time as long as I can heal him but for the most part he holds his own pretty well. Yes the para hell hounds hurt him pretty good but I throw a heal or two on him and he's fine.

BUT that's why I asked...I had no idea what I was doing with him...I have been researching and I thank people like Pawain for testing things like this thoroughly. Too much math is involved and my brain shuts down. Give me quests to test, drops to test, riddles to solve and I'm good but when I see numbers my mind takes a vacation, so I have to depend on other players to inform me, so thank you!

Currently I am just trying to get him through his first round of training...and besides dread pirates and shadow ellies...is there anything else that's good to train him on?

The Spellbinders in Haven, or Liches in your favorite Lich spot for resist.. Eodon dinosaurs or renowned Poison Elemental for healing to 120. Trogs, just because they drop gold and bandages and do the melee skills. could throw some crazed mages in for fun. 

Larisa said:

Yes I know his fire resist is low....and really he doesn't die that often...only when I'm stupid and think he's superdog or something and pit him against multiple paragons 🙂

He can handle the smaller ones like gazers and hell hounds 2 at a time as long as I can heal him but for the most part he holds his own pretty well. Yes the para hell hounds hurt him pretty good but I throw a heal or two on him and he's fine.

BUT that's why I asked...I had no idea what I was doing with him...I have been researching and I thank people like Pawain for testing things like this thoroughly. Too much math is involved and my brain shuts down. Give me quests to test, drops to test, riddles to solve and I'm good but when I see numbers my mind takes a vacation, so I have to depend on other players to inform me, so thank you!

Currently I am just trying to get him through his first round of training...and besides dread pirates and shadow ellies...is there anything else that's good to train him on?

I like the first spawn in Cavern of the Discard.
when the courtiers spawn, pull a couple up out of the area by the boulders

If you are doing the spawn by yourself
you can level your pet up with a few rounds
the only skills that don't get higher is healing
(it does raise some, but not as high as you want it to go)

This is where I leveled up the Cu I use on Origin.
when I was doing the earlier dungeons over there
I was only using a 4 slot Cu & was getting drops with it.

During Treasures of Wildfire
I actually trained up a CU while doing the dungeon
(I am going to train up another, but not sure I want to try Hythloth)

Yeah Hythloth seems to be a bit too dangerous to train up a fresh Cu. I did cheat and use a pet bonding potion on it just in case but I don't want him to die during training.

The spawn by Cavern of the Discarded sounds good though, never thought of that!

I'd post a picture of my little Cu training but you know 

@popps please stop making things up. FWW does physical damage. It is not based on the pets damage.  It will do it's physical damage on any pet type. Kinda like a fire ball does fire damage. The higher the passive magic the higher the damage. 

Tritons can have more build points than a Cu. That's why people will put FWW and chiv on them. Few other pet types have 700 spare points.

I'm gonna build a 4 slot Triton so my tamer can ride a armored swampy 

Larisa said:

Currently I am just trying to get him through his first round of training...and besides dread pirates and shadow ellies...is there anything else that's good to train him on?

I just saw this. Training is getting the 100%. Skilling is increasing skills.

Dread pirates, crazed mage are for training. Not skilling. They have too low of skills.

Shadow else begin different. Their wrestling and tactics can be around 60 or 90. So you can have 4 variations.  If you pet is low skill, you want a 60/60.

When the pet has 80 skill you want a 90/90. To gain skills the pet has to fight something within 20 to 30 points of its skill.

Shadow eles are for skilling. But only if they have the correct skill level for your pet.

Training:

Crazed mage
Dread pirate
Energy vortex
Allosaurus when resist is up.

Only allosaurus has enough skill to have a pet skill effectively.

Can also train on Navrey and night terror.

3 slot pet gets 50% per mob. 4 gets 25%. 

I want to train and skill at the same time...the spawn at Cavern of the Discarded worked very well but I can't do that more then once lol, I need variation 🙁



Forgot to screenshot before I started 🙁

@McDougle & @Larisa Would you like me to change the title of this thread?

Mariah said:

@ McDougle & @ Larisa Would you like me to change the title of this thread?

If you'd like especially if we could post cute puppy pictures 

Mariah said:

@ McDougle & @ Larisa Would you like me to change the title of this thread?

LOL

Yes please, I was just about to ask you if you could....not sure to what though...

I do like the idea of more puppy pictures

Larisa said:

I want to train and skill at the same time...the spawn at Cavern of the Discarded worked very well but I can't do that more then once lol, I need variation 🙁



Forgot to screenshot before I started 🙁

Training is a lot faster than skills.  No reason to try to do at the same time. You could use allosaurus at this point for both.  But a whisper cycle or 2 at a 90/90 shadow ele would get the the skills to 120 if you had scrolls on it.

I don't think anything in the cavern gives greatly gains.

That thing should have been at 100% in 30 mins.

I am not a super speed kinda person...I am going to go to the mines to find a shadow ele.

Reason I like to do both at the same time is because just standing there doing nothing whilst my pets attacks something is BORING  

Nope can't do it..I'm falling asleep.

I'll figure it out.

You know you can have an internet window on your screen at the same time...

@Mariah just rename it to "the Puppy Thread" that or "The Oozlum bird report" 

Pawain said:

You know you can have an internet window on your screen at the same time...

I don't have a big monitor.

I found an allosaurus

To raise their skills use a Shadow elemental, for the Training use Allosaurus, Dread Pirates, Crazed Mages, and Navrey if there are others there or you can keep it alive.

Yes Allosaurus will do both for your pet in the 80s.  When your pet is better he can kill one in 10 - 12 minutes.

You don't need a huge monitor. You can put a small movie screen in a corner. Desk pins keeps a window open so you can click UO and watch or read.

I'm the same as larisa i use dread pirates for training then just normal fighting for skill gain i detest the way we train both our own skills and pets in UO

Well he's at 46.31% into his second round.

Thank you for the title change...I almost didn't see it lol.

Good info to have here too.

Since you stopped before 50% you still need 3 more mobs. Should be done in 30 minutes or less.

I don't think I've ever spent more than a 24 hour period on training.

Much like getting drops there is no "right" way to do this...do what works for you..

Pawain said:

Since you stopped before 50% you still need 3 more mobs. Should be done in 30 minutes or less.

I don't think I've ever spent more than a 24 hour period on training.

It stopped...I kept going but was only getting the *You're pet doesn't seem to train on this* message over and over for almost 20 minutes.

Went and found another one and now I'm halfway through round 2



I need to do other things in between...like getting my yard packed up before it gets too cold lol.

This was after 2 allosaurus...not sure why I didn't get all the way to 50% but again I went almost 20 minutes with the *pet cannot gain* message so stopped to do yardwork..hoping to find another one to finish me out.

WHAT??? That was the cutest picture yet! 
Poor Greta... 🙁

@Rorschach @Mariah changed the topic of this thread so we could post such pictures unless I'm confused by what her intentions were..

For me, the best Cu to tame is high HP (570+)/70 Cold/85 Energy.