Treasures of Die-Loth

What is the reasoning behind which shards get a Fel version and which don’t? Did we ever get any info about that?

dvvid said:

What is the reasoning behind which shards get a Fel version and which don’t? Did we ever get any info about that?

My feeling is, they collected data from the Fire Felucca event.

Champ Spawns completed, Total amount of drops in Felucca, Total Hand-ins in Felucca etc.

I'm absolutely not surprised to see Europa on that list, I would be shocked if we were not based on what we achieved in Fel Dungeon Fire last time.

After 1 night, I'm finding Fel Dungeon Hythloth a bit hard, I may need time to adapt I don't know. I may need more of my team to show up and help me. My issue is, the drop rate in Felucca, does not seem to make it worth it. I pvp'd (and pvm'd) for about 5 hours tonight, and got 4 drops...

Then I went to Trammel, for 45 minutes, and got 7 drops.

The risk v rewards seems way off. Felucca has to give a higher drop rate, because the effort to earn the drops is so much harder a. you are being killed by players and b, you have no push through rules, and less players in general to help team up v the mobs.

The fact is, this reward table is very good, and we need drops, we will have to come to Trammel to get drops at this rate, which will make the Felucca event a missed PvP opportunity.

Thank you @Kyronix for activating this event on Felucca on only select servers. I am a huge fan of this method as it promotes PvP unlike having it active on every shard spreading an already thin population out way to much.

It is really nice to see the developers finally implementing content that makes the game a better place to spend time.  You just got to ignore whiners like Maximus_Neximus that contribute nothing to the game.

AtomicBetty said:

Thank you @ Kyronix for activating this event on Felucca on only select servers. I am a huge fan of this method as it promotes PvP unlike having it active on every shard spreading an already thin population out way to much.

It is really nice to see the developers finally implementing content that makes the game a better place to spend time.  You just got to ignore whiners like Maximus_Neximus that contribute nothing to the game.

Lmao if you seriously think your opinion is consider by the devs...again on your post you are attacking someone else...i cant beleive you can still post on forum with all the attack you did to others and false shit you use to say

Fortis said:

AtomicBetty said:

Thank you @ Kyronix for activating this event on Felucca on only select servers. I am a huge fan of this method as it promotes PvP unlike having it active on every shard spreading an already thin population out way to much.

It is really nice to see the developers finally implementing content that makes the game a better place to spend time.  You just got to ignore whiners like Maximus_Neximus that contribute nothing to the game.

Lmao if you seriously think your opinion is consider by the devs...again on your post you are attacking someone else...i cant beleive you can still post on forum with all the attack you did to others and false shit you use to say

What does my opinion have to do with what the dev's have implemented? I am just voicing my support for the decision because it is in the best interest of the game. Players like Maximus_Neximus for years have done nothing but try to ruin the game by trying to sound mistreated when they are not.  It would be him that wants his opinion to be considered by the dev's not me. 

If what I say comes off as an attack against another that is only because they are weak minded and get easily offended and not once do I give false information.

AtomicBetty said:

Thank you @ Kyronix for activating this event on Felucca on only select servers. I am a huge fan of this method as it promotes PvP unlike having it active on every shard spreading an already thin population out way to much.

It is really nice to see the developers finally implementing content that makes the game a better place to spend time.  You just got to ignore whiners like Maximus_Neximus that contribute nothing to the game.

I think the pvp population is low and multiple players playing most shards so this is either good to condense them a bit or horrible for the same reason..

Well a lot of players on LS played in Wildfire Fel daily. They may have used numbers.

Or they chose some for this one and the others will have fel for the next one.

Numbers from last don't make sense because cats was busier than pac 

And a champ spawn to boot, we used the chance to nab scrolls while gathering drops. I got enough for 2 ozzies and a pair of earings playing while my son napped.(up to 20 an hour) with better stuff, not sure if i am gonna have the time to get everything i want

I need at least 350 on 3 shards.

Without removing half the thread, please be aware that I do recognise veiled sarcasm and do not believe that is in the spirit of rule 1 of the forum. Please do not post

This thread wouldn´t miss the two troll posts though...

For me it´s quite simple. The players on the other shards pay the same monthly fee as the players on Atlantic, LS, Pacific, Europa, Asuka and Sakura. Ergo they should get the same content.
Why that is even up for debate is beyond me.

Tjalle says it all, it shouldn't even be a discussion and be on all shards, another poor decision !

 I hope the other shards get the next event as compassion.

How would Atlantic feel if exemple Catskills or another shard would get the event in fel and not on Atl, be in someone's else shoes for a sec we all pay the same amount of money.

Tjalle said:

This thread wouldn´t miss the two troll posts though...

For me it´s quite simple. The players on the other shards pay the same monthly fee as the players on Atlantic, LS, Pacific, Europa, Asuka and Sakura. Ergo they should get the same content.
Why that is even up for debate is beyond me.

quickblade said:

Tjalle says it all, it shouldn't even be a discussion and be on all shards, another poor decision !

 I hope the other shards get the next event as compassion.

How would Atlantic feel if exemple Catskills or another shard would get the event in fel and not on Atl, be in someone's else shoes for a sec we all pay the same amount of money.

I get both of these posts, and ultimately agree.

I think there is a flip side to this though - we see a lot of people complaining about people going to dead shards and farming Felucca, or how easy it is in Felucca because it is dead and you can farm for free.

I think these are the shards that have proven this argument does not hold water for them. It's a real event/battle and a lot of playing going on in there.

So that may be their reason, I cannot know of course - and I'd personally love to see the data as well, I'm a data person.

Having said that, with the Shard Bound property - does it matter if some people are able to farm it a little easier in Felucca? I am not sure it does. It's still hard in Felucca, and they still always run a risk.

The final thought process - is maybe it is just too much work for the Devs...

quickblade said:

How would Atlantic feel if exemple Catskills or another shard would get the event in fel and not on Atl, be in someone's else shoes for a sec we all pay the same amount of money.

You can't be serious... 

ATL population dwarfs just about every single other shard; especially Catskills. Proposing that the most populated shard doesn't have the event in Fel but some other low pop shard does doesn't make any sense at all.

I've checked out the events on multiple shards just about every event and I can tell you that nobody except maybe Europa even comes close to ATL as far as people doing the event. Anyone whining about a shard like Catskills or Sonoma not having the event in Fel just wants to easily work the entire Fel side solo and setup their bots because there is plenty of spawn in Tram (half the time I'd go and see no more than 2 people working the events). Compare that to events on ATL where Tram is so packed that you could barely find something to kill let alone collect enough items to get a high end drop. It's not even close to comparison. 

At least some people understand why it is only active in Felucca on six shards. I am also a paying customer to play this game and appreciate the fact that it's only available on these six shards as it brings pvpers together which is what the game needs. The dev's refuse to close down servers and this is the result that needs to happen to make the game lively and worth playing for everyone.  

People need to accept reality that the state the game is in and adjust to it. Stop trying to hold the game back for your personal greed. Your true intention is you want to have Felucca active on all shards so when these events are in a dungeon with a champion spawn you can make a fortune off powerscrolls and get all the drops you need on each shard uncontested due to population being to spread out. 

The WildFire Ostard is a prefect example of this and players hoping to find loopholes to abuse dead shards for profits.

AtomicBetty said:

The dev's refuse to close down servers and this is the result that needs to happen to make the game lively and worth playing for everyone.  

Great, allow free shard transfers for everyone.

WOW I can not believe how entitled some people that think they deserve something that we all pay the same sup for.  If this is allowed on even one shard then it should be allowed on all shards, we should not be required to go to other shards to enjoy ALL the aspects of this event but it already looks like UO is going the way of the world.  Special treatment for special people.

@Mesanna @Kyronix @Bleak @Misk how do the other shards get this SPECIAL treatment

@Kyronix can you please let us know!

I heard this from many people already:

 My issue is, the drop rate in Felucca, does not seem to make it worth it. I pvp'd (and pvm'd) for about 5 hours tonight, and got 4 drops...

People that were in Fel for 5 hours killing mobs is getting the same rate as the Tram? or less? Did anything change for this specific event?

Yoshi said:

"why are you wanting to play on a dead shard?

You can't afford a token to move to a live shard?"

My shard isn't dead. Most shards are not. It should be obvious why we would want to play on the shards where we originated our characters two decades ago.

keven2002 said:

quickblade said:

How would Atlantic feel if exemple Catskills or another shard would get the event in fel and not on Atl, be in someone's else shoes for a sec we all pay the same amount of money.

You can't be serious... 

ATL population dwarfs just about every single other shard; especially Catskills. Proposing that the most populated shard doesn't have the event in Fel but some other low pop shard does doesn't make any sense at all.

I've checked out the events on multiple shards just about every event and I can tell you that nobody except maybe Europa even comes close to ATL as far as people doing the event. Anyone whining about a shard like Catskills or Sonoma not having the event in Fel just wants to easily work the entire Fel side solo and setup their bots because there is plenty of spawn in Tram (half the time I'd go and see no more than 2 people working the events). Compare that to events on ATL where Tram is so packed that you could barely find something to kill let alone collect enough items to get a high end drop. It's not even close to comparison. 

your post i like you dont play the game other than atlantic...have you go to fel and try to bot in fel...on shards i play in fel you get kill...on trammel both can play your bot arguments is so wrong....and btw this event is the most harder we had so far for turn in. making drops shard bound have no problem at all between server because item will say on the server so there is no points to have the event on fel on only 6 shards

AtomicBetty said:

At least some people understand why it is only active in Felucca on six shards. I am also a paying customer to play this game and appreciate the fact that it's only available on these six shards as it brings pvpers together which is what the game needs. The dev's refuse to close down servers and this is the result that needs to happen to make the game lively and worth playing for everyone.  

People need to accept reality that the state the game is in and adjust to it. Stop trying to hold the game back for your personal greed. Your true intention is you want to have Felucca active on all shards so when these events are in a dungeon with a champion spawn you can make a fortune off powerscrolls and get all the drops you need on each shard uncontested due to population being to spread out. 

The WildFire Ostard is a prefect example of this and players hoping to find loopholes to abuse dead shards for profits.

last time it was active on all shards with a spawn....have you seen a drop in price for 120 scrolls do a little vs search and the answer is no...so again you are wrong...and btw you dont have to post on multiple accounts

htgfjgfjgfjgfhjgfhj said:

@ Kyronix can you please let us know!

I heard this from many people already:

 My issue is, the drop rate in Felucca, does not seem to make it worth it. I pvp'd (and pvm'd) for about 5 hours tonight, and got 4 drops...

People that were in Fel for 5 hours killing mobs is getting the same rate as the Tram? or less? Did anything change for this specific event?

What i hear we love pvp for pvp what i see, we need victims! case in point cemetery's i hunt only fel ones you know how many reds I've seen the last 3 years there looking for the beloved fight ?? 0.... why nothing to take of value...i hunted the area's away from spawn in fire you know how many reds i saw looking for the beloved fight? 0 ...

Yoshi said:

htgfjgfjgfjgfhjgfhj said:

@ Kyronix can you please let us know!

I heard this from many people already:

 My issue is, the drop rate in Felucca, does not seem to make it worth it. I pvp'd (and pvm'd) for about 5 hours tonight, and got 4 drops...

People that were in Fel for 5 hours killing mobs is getting the same rate as the Tram? or less? Did anything change for this specific event?

"there has been no change to the insurability aspect of the artifacts,

there is no means to earn artifacts by PvPing"

"there has been no change to the insurability aspect of the artifacts,

I am not talking about that, I am asking about drop rate, you supposed to have a lot more (double) drop in Fel than Tram, was like that on Wildfire event, now looks like Tram is dropping the same if not more than fel.

htgfjgfjgfjgfhjgfhj said:

@ Kyronix can you please let us know!

I heard this from many people already:

 My issue is, the drop rate in Felucca, does not seem to make it worth it. I pvp'd (and pvm'd) for about 5 hours tonight, and got 4 drops...

People that were in Fel for 5 hours killing mobs is getting the same rate as the Tram? or less? Did anything change for this specific event?

Really? You expect to get more drops for killing the same amount of things? It's because they nerfed the spawn like you requested.

I wouldn't use my quote in quite that sense, it was day 1, maybe I pvp'd far too much, but I felt like I was killing a ton of mobs, and the drops were not happening at any sort of rate I'd expect, too early for me to tell tbh on Felside after only 1 night.

I'll try tonight, with warrior pvmer.

Pawain said:

Really? You expect to get more drops for killing the same amount of things? It's because they nerfed the spawn like you requested.

I noticed the spawn seems to have been decreased from yesterday too. I think it's way better than Wildfire but the spawn rate yesterday for the first 90min or so was insane (in a good way). There was literally no shortage of spawn to the point where some parts of the dungeon in Tram (ATL) was empty because people couldn't make it down that far. It was a lot of fun. After the shard crashed it was noticeably less spawn and today it's a little less than yesterday I think.

Pawain said:

htgfjgfjgfjgfhjgfhj said:

@ Kyronix can you please let us know!

I heard this from many people already:

 My issue is, the drop rate in Felucca, does not seem to make it worth it. I pvp'd (and pvm'd) for about 5 hours tonight, and got 4 drops...

People that were in Fel for 5 hours killing mobs is getting the same rate as the Tram? or less? Did anything change for this specific event?

Really? You expect to get more drops for killing the same amount of things? It's because they nerfed the spawn like you requested.

you have 1k luck bonus in fel + the the potion from the store, if you combine this with your luck statue have fun

 7uuuFortis said:

Pawain said:

htgfjgfjgfjgfhjgfhj said:

@ Kyronix can you please let us know!

I heard this from many people already:

 My issue is, the drop rate in Felucca, does not seem to make it worth it. I pvp'd (and pvm'd) for about 5 hours tonight, and got 4 drops...

People that were in Fel for 5 hours killing mobs is getting the same rate as the Tram? or less? Did anything change for this specific event?

Really? You expect to get more drops for killing the same amount of things? It's because they nerfed the spawn like you requested.

you have 1k luck bonus in fel + the the potion from the store, if you combine this with your luck statue have fun

Yup. But the guy named random letters said he was not getting more.

I'd say his issue is skills tho.

Yoshi said:

"why are you wanting to play on a dead shard?

You can't afford a token to move to a live shard?"

Naturally you/Merv would take this stance.  Do you pay my subs, NO, then you have NO say so in which shard I play on.  Do you pay the same sub as I do, then I am as entitled to the same product as you are.

Radst said:

Event Goal:

Step 1: introduce insanely nice artifacts

Step 2: FILL the dungeon with balron paragons!

Step 3: everyone quits event

Seriously, Dev team is trying to "encourage" us to challenge tough monsters? We real sampires have done that with many other spawns/encounters in this game. This balron paragon is just lazy and annoying design. Drop rate is also too low. One drop per 5 minutes of non-stop hacking.

FIX: either you nerf its HP or let us leech some life. Stop nerfing sampires. Oh but we know you do intentionally.

Nothing and I mean nothing makes me happier than a whining sampire I'd base life leech on spirit speak and allow only the casting of necro spells (if focused) while in vampiric embrace this would bring it in line with say ninja forms....

McDoug, update your gameplay to 2021. Sampire is the new tamer.

Radst said:

McDoug, update your gameplay to 2021. Sampire is the new tamer.

Good thing I'm to shy to say how i really feel... also all bushido spells now need garlic 

McDougle said:

Radst said:

Event Goal:

Step 1: introduce insanely nice artifacts

Step 2: FILL the dungeon with balron paragons!

Step 3: everyone quits event

Seriously, Dev team is trying to "encourage" us to challenge tough monsters? We real sampires have done that with many other spawns/encounters in this game. This balron paragon is just lazy and annoying design. Drop rate is also too low. One drop per 5 minutes of non-stop hacking.

FIX: either you nerf its HP or let us leech some life. Stop nerfing sampires. Oh but we know you do intentionally.

Nothing and I mean nothing makes me happier than a whining sampire I'd base life leech on spirit speak and allow only the casting of necro spells (if focused) while in vampiric embrace this would bring it in line with say ninja forms....

BUT BUT BUT We are Special and we deserve to be better than anyone else.

 HRadst said:

Event Goal:

Step 1: introduce insanely nice artifacts

Step 2: FILL the dungeon with balron paragons!

Step 3: everyone quits event

Seriously, Dev team is trying to "encourage" us to challenge tough monsters? We real sampires have done that with many other spawns/encounters in this game. This balron paragon is just lazy and annoying design. Drop rate is also too low. One drop per 5 minutes of non-stop hacking.

FIX: either you nerf its HP or let us leech some life. Stop nerfing sampires. Oh but we know you do intentionally.

Take off necro put on healing. No easy button finally.

Pawain said:

 HRadst said:

Event Goal:

Step 1: introduce insanely nice artifacts

Step 2: FILL the dungeon with balron paragons!

Step 3: everyone quits event

Seriously, Dev team is trying to "encourage" us to challenge tough monsters? We real sampires have done that with many other spawns/encounters in this game. This balron paragon is just lazy and annoying design. Drop rate is also too low. One drop per 5 minutes of non-stop hacking.

FIX: either you nerf its HP or let us leech some life. Stop nerfing sampires. Oh but we know you do intentionally.

Take off necro put on healing. No easy button finally.

While sampires are an abomination I'd nerf south of dog archers
Being a sampire is not easy it takes expensive equipment and timing much as tamers are not all kill no skill ..

I have 2 archers that need way more stamina than a double axe user.
4 melee dexxers that have the stats they need.

Luckily I bought enough feudal grips for them when they were just 33M. 
I fought I've spent more than 20M on any other piece.

A set of 120 pet scrolls cost more than a really nice sampire suit. Which is just a basic dexxer suit.

My Macer/Paladin got 50 drops yesterday in Tram, Hythloth in about 3 hours. Enough to get a Demon Slayer Talisman and make the killing even faster (300% Damage Cap against 60% of the mob types down there). Wore a 960 Luck Suit (Luck Sculpture brought me to 2k+ for the first hour). Hadn't even used the Potion of Glorious Fortune yet, will combine that with my Luck Statue later today.

Radst said:

Event Goal:

Step 1: introduce insanely nice artifacts

Step 2: FILL the dungeon with balron paragons!

Step 3: everyone quits event

Seriously, Dev team is trying to "encourage" us to challenge tough monsters? We real sampires have done that with many other spawns/encounters in this game. This balron paragon is just lazy and annoying design. Drop rate is also too low. One drop per 5 minutes of non-stop hacking.

FIX: either you nerf its HP or let us leech some life. Stop nerfing sampires. Oh but we know you do intentionally.

The solution is, do NOT kill the Paragon Balrons.

Lure them in some far away room, and leave them there.

Enjoy killing the rest of the spawn........

Of course, this needs all players to work together and do the same otherwise, if anyone kills the Paragon Balrons, they will keep respawning.

being that fel fire on LS was popping, it looks like if people didn't bother to show up during fire on your shard they didn't bother to set it up again for no one to use

Killing paragons gives more drops..

@keven2002 I think you have no idea of what's hapenning outside of Atlantic, if you came on Catskills during fire event you would have noticed daily pvp and alot of different guilds farming fire, not a single bot like you presume.

If their decision was based on fel activity, why would pacific get the event and not Catskills for exemple, Catskills is twice more active pvp and pvm wise, it doesnt make sense, and you also don't make sense. Your atlantic mentality is so wrong, shard full of cheaters and lag, like the devs decision should be based off Atlantic is getting so annoying.

PlayerSkillFTW said:

My Macer/Paladin got 50 drops yesterday in Tram, Hythloth in about 3 hours. Enough to get a Demon Slayer Talisman and make the killing even faster (300% Damage Cap against 60% of the mob types down there). Wore a 960 Luck Suit (Luck Sculpture brought me to 2k+ for the first hour). Hadn't even used the Potion of Glorious Fortune yet, will combine that with my Luck Statue later today.

The important part of this quote is demon slayer talisman does this help mages? Does this help bards? Maybe a pet collar of demon slaughter would it be difficult to have like priced items for multiple builds.....

McDougle said:

PlayerSkillFTW said:

My Macer/Paladin got 50 drops yesterday in Tram, Hythloth in about 3 hours. Enough to get a Demon Slayer Talisman and make the killing even faster (300% Damage Cap against 60% of the mob types down there). Wore a 960 Luck Suit (Luck Sculpture brought me to 2k+ for the first hour). Hadn't even used the Potion of Glorious Fortune yet, will combine that with my Luck Statue later today.

The important part of this quote is demon slayer talisman does this help mages? Does this help bards? Maybe a pet collar of demon slaughter would it be difficult to have like priced items for multiple builds.....

I know how to kill them with every template that doesn't change the validity of my comment 

XMcDougle said:

I know how to kill them with every template that doesn't change the validity of my comment 

Mages can use a 30 demon slayer book. Or you prefer to hold a flute.

quickblade said:

@ keven2002 I think you have no idea of what's hapenning outside of Atlantic, if you came on Catskills during fire event you would have noticed daily pvp and alot of different guilds farming fire, not a single bot like you presume.

If their decision was based on fel activity, why would pacific get the event and not Catskills for exemple, Catskills is twice more active pvp and pvm wise, it doesnt make sense, and you also don't make sense. Your atlantic mentality is so wrong, shard full of cheaters and lag, like the devs decision should be based off Atlantic is getting so annoying.

Obviously the DEVs looked at the stats from Wildfire and made the call. You are right, I don't play Catskills (as when I did xfer over years ago it was dead when I played) to speak to Wildfire just like you likely can't accurately speak to ATL (I have no lag issues). What you and many others fail to realize is that when ATL over doubles most every other shard, it is bound to get things designed towards it...doing the opposite would likely just drive people away from the game. 

That said, to clarify, I'm not saying any botting was going on (I wasn't there) but when people are asking for ALL shards to get Fel active you have to ask yourself why? Maybe it's not Catskills they are botting bc it is too active for PvP but what about Sonoma? Balhae? Etc. There is likely 4-5 shards that are completely dead and could easily be botted and it doesn't make sense to open it up everywhere just for that reason. If you REALLY think you have a case for Fel then log several examples and give them to the DEVs. If there is a case for it (like there was for ATL ToD) the DEVs will do the right thing. If there are like 6 people in Tram the entire time with the same people there all day then it's probably not going to open in Fel.

Side note - has anyone else noticed the spawn rate seems a lot less than yesterday? I could barely see the dungeon floor yesterday with all the corpses but today looks more like the previous "treasures of" events where the spawn is more spaced out and much harder to come by spawn to kill.

I do agree that some shards could be presumely botted if they are literally dead...
but still , like there is barely a diff between catskills or LS and some  could probably argue that Catskills is more active pvp wise than LS lately.
but it still shows like, are the devs saying it is time to merge THE SHARDS to these SHARDS ? 

Atlantic, Lake Superior, Pacific, Europa, Asuka, and Sakura! 

to me it looks pretty much 1 shard per time zone
Pretty unfair if you want my honest opinion

Would be nice if we knew this was a reward for PvP in Wildfire.

@Kyronix

If so I can tell the players on LS to go play in Fel so i can have Tram to myself.  Like I did with wildfire.

keven2002 said:

Side note - has anyone else noticed the spawn rate seems a lot less than yesterday? I could barely see the dungeon floor yesterday with all the corpses but today looks more like the previous "treasures of" events where the spawn is more spaced out and much harder to come by spawn to kill.

Pawain said:

XMcDougle said:

I know how to kill them with every template that doesn't change the validity of my comment 

Mages can use a 30 demon slayer book. Or you prefer to hold a flute.

I don’t think the 30 demon slayer books are as available as the slayer talisman. Unless I’m wrong?

Pawain said:

XMcDougle said:

I know how to kill them with every template that doesn't change the validity of my comment 

Mages can use a 30 demon slayer book. Or you prefer to hold a flute.Why yes I think equipable instruments with spellbook/shield like mods is a fantastic idea paddy cakes..

And to clarify if the demon talisman offers a 300% DI you're gonna have to equip 10 30sdi books right ?

dvvid said:

Pawain said:

XMcDougle said:

I know how to kill them with every template that doesn't change the validity of my comment 

Mages can use a 30 demon slayer book. Or you prefer to hold a flute.

I don’t think the 30 demon slayer books are as available as the slayer talisman. Unless I’m wrong?

They must be. A player on Atlantic was spamming a 28 in chat a couple days before the event for 5M and no one was buying it. I even yelled out that it is a good deal and will be used in Hythloth.

Demon books were pretty common during the 2 invasions.

Drop rates are calculated the same in both Felucca & Trammel.  It has been this way for all Treasures events, even those before the dynamic ones.

Kyronix said:

Drop rates are calculated the same in both Felucca & Trammel.  It has been this way for all Treasures events, even those before the dynamic ones.

Sounds good. But when gel has a spawn they are able to kill more mobs per min.

IMO the spawn mobs should not have treasure tags. Would make it equal and end the complaining when it is not in fel. 

Kyronix said:

Drop rates are calculated the same in both Felucca & Trammel.  It has been this way for all Treasures events, even those before the dynamic ones.

 So the fel luck does not enter into the calculations?

Tyrath said:

Kyronix said:

Drop rates are calculated the same in both Felucca & Trammel.  It has been this way for all Treasures events, even those before the dynamic ones.

 So the fel luck does not enter into the calculations?

Well he did not say that.  He said calculated the same way.  So Luck is in the formula.

Just no extra secret bonus cuz u in fel.

Tyrath said:

Kyronix said:

Drop rates are calculated the same in both Felucca & Trammel.  It has been this way for all Treasures events, even those before the dynamic ones.

 So the fel luck does not enter into the calculations?

I've done a bit of testing on this and honestly is doesn't appear that the fel innate luck bonus does much. I spent an hour in Tram farming early AM when it was more quiet and then spent an hour Fel where it was very quiet. In Tram after an hour (no potion or luck suit) I ended up with 14 and with the same setup in Fel I ended up with 16. 

In Fel the spawn was much more spread out since it was almost empty which meant I had to run around more and also meant I had to spend much longer on the paragon balrons. Spawn in Tram was much more but there were still people running through killing stuff before I could which had me kind of search for a a new hunting spot when they came around.

The other reason I don't think the Fel 1000 innate luck bonus does anything is because the difference was so minor it could be based on RNG or just the types of stuff I killed. When I hit the luck statue I get 1200 luck (bringing me to 1200 luck) and when I was in Fel that was good for an extra 9 drops for a total of 25 drops. If the Fel luck bonus of 1000 was really impacting drops then I'd have expected to be low to mid 20s at least compared to 14 in Tram.

All that said this was just over the course of 3 separate tests (although I did try to keep things constant) so there could be RNG at play.

I'll be honest, besides primetime (7pm-10pm) when it's impossible to find something to kill on ATL, the Tram side isn't as bad as I've seen during previous treasure events. Not sure if it's the dungeon that helps that or the Devs did something but I like it. Based on the drops I've gotten so far it doesn't seem like the risk is worth the reward going to Fel this time; it's very hard to escape danger or paragons / reds given all the chests that move and the tight hallways.

Yoshi said:

"went afk for 2 hours, came back still alive with 12 arties to insure"

So we have an admitted cheater, I hope the DEVs @Kyronix @Bleak Perma ban you.

Lord_Frodo said:

Yoshi said:

"went afk for 2 hours, came back still alive with 12 arties to insure"

So we have an admitted cheater, I hope the DEVs @ Kyronix @ Bleak Perma ban you.

To clarify he didn't say unattended and auto insurance an easy macro i kinda got the feeling he was troll fishing 

He was not auto insuring. He did it manually when he returned. Can't yall see that?  That's why they are showing all at same time
Afk farming is illegal.

McDougle said:

Lord_Frodo said:

Yoshi said:

"went afk for 2 hours, came back still alive with 12 arties to insure"

So we have an admitted cheater, I hope the DEVs @ Kyronix @ Bleak Perma ban you.

To clarify he didn't say unattended and auto insurance an easy macro i kinda got the feeling he was troll fishing 

AFK Away From Keyboard = unattended

So if I'm running two characters switching between screens one of them is always unattended?

McDougle said:

So if I'm running two characters switching between screens one of them is always unattended?

  

McDougle said:

So if I'm running two characters switching between screens one of them is always unattended?

Not if you can see them both. Can we get this thread back on topic please?

"What's the topic?"

Yoshi said:

"What's the topic?"

Why is this event not in fel on all shards i think 

McDougle said:

Lord_Frodo said:

Yoshi said:

"went afk for 2 hours, came back still alive with 12 arties to insure"

So we have an admitted cheater, I hope the DEVs @ Kyronix @ Bleak Perma ban you.

To clarify he didn't say unattended and auto insurance an easy macro i kinda got the feeling he was troll fishing 

And it could be that @Yoshi is just trolling y'all to have a little fun. We'll never know for sure. As far as the topic of the thread, i'm pretty sure it had something to do with Barton, or maybe it was Bob. 

Victim_Of_Siege said:

McDougle said:

Lord_Frodo said:

Yoshi said:

"went afk for 2 hours, came back still alive with 12 arties to insure"

So we have an admitted cheater, I hope the DEVs @ Kyronix @ Bleak Perma ban you.

To clarify he didn't say unattended and auto insurance an easy macro i kinda got the feeling he was troll fishing 

And it could be that @ Yoshi is just trolling y'all to have a little fun. We'll never know for sure. As far as the topic of the thread, i'm pretty sure it had something to do with Barton, or maybe it was Bob. 

  I thought it was about *Where is Waldo* and I am terrible at finding Waldo so have refrained from commenting....... Now if it is about Bob...................

Pawain said:

Tyrath said:

Kyronix said:

Drop rates are calculated the same in both Felucca & Trammel.  It has been this way for all Treasures events, even those before the dynamic ones.

 So the fel luck does not enter into the calculations?

Well he did not say that.  He said calculated the same way.  So Luck is in the formula.

Just no extra secret bonus cuz u in fel.

 If there is a inherit base difference between fel and tram then no it would not be calculated the same way.