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I bet you’re fun at parties.MinocMiner said:Neat image I guess, but did you even check this for accuracy?https://uo.com/2021/06/22/treasures-of-wildfire-comes-to-origin/Why re-invent the wheel?
- No costs listed anywhere
- Daimo title is misspelled
- Yurei title is missing (and listed as a cherry blossom tree for some reason?)
- A lot of the items are flat out misspelled, either missing punctuation that is in the name of the item, or just the wrong spelling
- The Hiryu is the wrong color
- There's no pages of lore listed, but there are 6 of them listed when this went live
You get zero drops posting here..popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
What happened to that luck suit you have been making fir for years.?popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
Grimbeard said:You get zero drops posting here..popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
They also nerfed tamers our pets don't do full damage to Paragons. And the paragons target us. Sampires do.Lord_Nythrax said:I'd like some kind of official comment on why every paragon in this event has to be immune to life leech. From here it looks like the sequence of events is something like this:> Leave sampire as one of the only viable high-end melee templates in the game for 15+ years while making no effort to nerf it or otherwise diversify builds.> Notice there are lots of sampires around and get mad about it. Still don't do anything to address the actual mechanics behind this fact.> Instead, just lazily slap immunity to life leech on to things as you add them.Absolute nonsense. There's no other commercial game out there that would decide a character build is overpowered, refuse to actually balance or nerf it, and instead just start de facto banning it from half of all new encounters. This is a sloppy, ugly, lazy attempt at cobbling together a cargo cult substitute for game balance, because you assume every customer is a lifer with 400 characters and nobody actually "mains" anything.I just got back to this game a few months ago, I don't have a whole squad of tamers and archers and stuff to fall back on. I'm essentially banned from this event, because @ Kyronix and friends hate sampires, take some kind of offense to them being able to participate in too many things, but don't have the stomach to make meaningful mechanical changes to this elderly game anymore.
Lord_Nythrax said:I'd like some kind of official comment on why every paragon in this event has to be immune to life leech. From here it looks like the sequence of events is something like this:> Leave sampire as one of the only viable high-end melee templates in the game for 15+ years while making no effort to nerf it or otherwise diversify builds.> Notice there are lots of sampires around and get mad about it. Still don't do anything to address the actual mechanics behind this fact.> Instead, just lazily slap immunity to life leech on to things as you add them.Absolute nonsense. There's no other commercial game out there that would decide a character build is overpowered, refuse to actually balance or nerf it, and instead just start de facto banning it from half of all new encounters. This is a sloppy, ugly, lazy attempt at cobbling together a cargo cult substitute for game balance, because you assume every customer is a lifer with 400 characters and nobody actually "mains" anything.I just got back to this game a few months ago, I don't have a whole squad of tamers and archers and stuff to fall back on. I'm essentially banned from this event, because @ Kyronix and friends hate sampires, take some kind of offense to them being able to participate in too many things, but don't have the stomach to make meaningful mechanical changes to this elderly game anymore.
Kyronix said:You need more luck. 700 is low by today's standards.
creampie said:
maybe you suck at playing a sampire i dont die and get over 25 drops per hour...it s been on for 2 hours and you cry like a little baby cant beleive the costumer base sometimes lol
Lord_Nythrax said:This is unplayable as a sampire.
My archer has a 55 lmc every piece 190 luck suit UO is about choice.... that's why I laughed at the over powered comments with new items with no luck you can't use for most eventspopps said:Lord_Nythrax said:This is unplayable as a sampire.As a Sampire I do not know.... I can play it as a Dexer with healing.... though, I cannot have too much Luck on the suit without compromising seriously the abilty to fight and to stay alive...So my issue is not being unable to play the Event with a Warrior.... my issue is not getting enough drops per hour out of my playing time...And before someone mentions to purchase the Luck Potion at the Store... well, that should be an "optional" for players, to my opinion, not a necessity because the drop rate is too conservative....
popps said:Kyronix said:You need more luck. 700 is low by today's standards.The problem is, that on a Dexer is quite difficult to add more Luck then that without compromising seriously the fighting ability and the survivability of the Warrior...Yes, a Tamer or a Spellcaster can have more Luck on the suit then that but, unfortunately, they do not have the ability to kill as fast as a Warrior...I have about 2,300 Luck on my Tamer, yet, pets do very very bad in these Events because of all the nerfs that they have gone through over the years which made pets very slow killers...I used to play a Tamer at these Events and then, I had to create a Warrior specificaly for these Events because it was Warriors who had the high rate of drops (I complained a lot about how Tamers/Spellcasters were neglected at these Events while Warriors had it easy....).Now, if spellcasters and tamers even with high Luck are not good enough because their kill rate is too slow, and Warriors with their faster kill rate are also not good because they cannot have too much Luck on their suit without compromising their fighting ability and survivability, I am not sure how a casual player who only has a few hours a week to play, can get enough drops to claim a sufficient number of wanted rewards....

Mariah said:popps said:Kyronix said:You need more luck. 700 is low by today's standards.The problem is, that on a Dexer is quite difficult to add more Luck then that without compromising seriously the fighting ability and the survivability of the Warrior...Yes, a Tamer or a Spellcaster can have more Luck on the suit then that but, unfortunately, they do not have the ability to kill as fast as a Warrior...I have about 2,300 Luck on my Tamer, yet, pets do very very bad in these Events because of all the nerfs that they have gone through over the years which made pets very slow killers...I used to play a Tamer at these Events and then, I had to create a Warrior specificaly for these Events because it was Warriors who had the high rate of drops (I complained a lot about how Tamers/Spellcasters were neglected at these Events while Warriors had it easy....).Now, if spellcasters and tamers even with high Luck are not good enough because their kill rate is too slow, and Warriors with their faster kill rate are also not good because they cannot have too much Luck on their suit without compromising their fighting ability and survivability, I am not sure how a casual player who only has a few hours a week to play, can get enough drops to claim a sufficient number of wanted rewards....
You did remember to use the luck statue? I'm sure you've played long enough to get more than 700 luck from just that.
he probably wasting time looting gold and paragon chest
Larisa said:is 1300 High Enough?? Kyronix?This is my archer, wearing the earrings and quiver with luck statue bonus....if I need higher I am going to have to re-think some thingsI have yet to go out and kill things so we'll see what happens with this.@ poppsEarrings/Quiver? Do you have those? Because as you can see with just those 2 items and the statue bonus I have a bit more then 700.
I can't speak for creampie but I adjusted my Sampire to have healing as a back up. instead of Resist or Parry, i added healing. it works for my purposes and i've been able to handle the Paragons from past events and had no issues getting sufficient drops to get everything i want.Lord_Nythrax said:Well you seehe probably wasting time looting gold and paragon chestI'm still waiting to hear how your sampire easily kills paragons with meaningful damage output while having its primary healing method disabled.This game's attempts at balance are pure garbage. They can't add any meaningful combat mechanics and they don't seem to have the guts anymore for serious changes to how skills and spells work, so they just go "Duhhh let's make the new thing immune to a few of the usual good templates, that's the same as balancing them, right?"
Lord_Nythrax said:I'd rather go play ESO than screw around putting healing on my template. Peace.
Play some more 3/4 of the players are sampires if not more. Or use healing instead of sampire.Lord_Nythrax said:Well you seehe probably wasting time looting gold and paragon chestI'm still waiting to hear how your sampire easily kills paragons with meaningful damage output while having its primary healing method disabled.This game's attempts at balance are pure garbage. They can't add any meaningful combat mechanics and they don't seem to have the guts anymore for serious changes to how skills and spells work, so they just go "Duhhh let's make the new thing immune to a few of the usual good templates, that's the same as balancing them, right?"
Need 1600+ luck champ.popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
No, wait, stop. Come back.Lord_Nythrax said:I'd rather go play ESO than screw around putting healing on my template. Peace.
I think I was doing about 20-25 yeah avg 2k+ luck. When one char ran out I swapped to another.JackFlashUk said:Popps,
You have wasted your 1 hour game time for today moaning about an event that is less than 24 hours old?
WHY???
you can get 15-25 drops an hour with a samp with NO luck
so you are already 15-25 down by being on here
GET A GRIP, and get on with it
Probably not doing anything wrong, just kill rate is slower so the drop rate is lower.Skett said:I most be doing something wrong at 2550 luck in 4 hours 21 drops using a tamer lol
They should have made the drops the color of the Mobs that dropped them. Get some Ice deco suitscreampie said:this is the most easy tot event since they do it...relax people look around tokuno and find your spot and tactic.the negative note i forgot to tell on tc it s the color of the drops almost same color than archlich would have been nice some special white
popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
That is an average of 5 drops per hour on a tamer with high Luck (2,550)...Skett said:I most be doing something wrong at 2550 luck in 4 hours 21 drops using a tamer lol
@OreoglOreogl said:Need 1600+ luck champ.popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
@FortisFortis said:popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
i just did a test playing late less people on catskills with my sampire in one hour 1 got 85 drops with luck buff and a glorious potion on...so the problem must be your build or the person behind the keyboard
Sure, even in CC you can suit swap. Most monsters are spaced so you can sacrifice swing speed in exchange for luck if you want.popps said:@ OreoglOreogl said:Need 1600+ luck champ.popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
Could you please explain "how" it is possible to put (without the Luck Statue or the store bought Potion) some 1,600 Luck on a Warrior suit and still be able to have 180+ Stamina, sufficient Stamina Regen, swing at 1.25 with at least most weapons and have what properties a Warrior needs to fight and stay alive ?
Thank you.
Kyronix said:You need more luck. 700 is low by today's standards.
The last guy here is a dexxer.popps said:@ FortisFortis said:popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
i just did a test playing late less people on catskills with my sampire in one hour 1 got 85 drops with luck buff and a glorious potion on...so the problem must be your build or the person behind the keyboard
And what is you build, then, if I may ask ?
Skills and gear, please...
You have two months.JohnKnighthawke said:Kyronix said:You need more luck. 700 is low by today's standards.
I'm dead in the water then. Oh well. Thanks for posting so that way I won't try.
Riner said:@ Fortis have to admit I'm truly impressed with no one else around the best I could do was 26 in the ice area with 340 luck and a potion. 85 is pretty insane.
From that post :Pawain said:The last guy here is a dexxer.popps said:@ FortisFortis said:popps said:Well, my 1st hour into the Event....I fought for 1 hour at the snow area at the Northern tip, killed a whole bunch of stuff with a Dexer and 700 Luck, including many Paragons among which Fan Dancers and Ladies of the Snow (stayed well away from Skeletal Dragons though...) and got a whopping 3 drops....Perhaps the drop rate is quite too much "conservative", @ Kyronix ?I was expecting at least like 15 drops in an hour of intense fighting and from killing quite many Paragons in a fast respawn area...I died once.If the drop rate is like that, even being able to play all 60 days, 1 hour per day, 3 x 60 = 180 drops...Just enough for 1 Hiryu... and even doubling the playing time to 2 hours per day (which, for a lot of players who have other things to do in their lives is a lot of time to spend in a game), that would make 360 drops in 60 days...Not many points to claim rewards with....Oh well....
i just did a test playing late less people on catskills with my sampire in one hour 1 got 85 drops with luck buff and a glorious potion on...so the problem must be your build or the person behind the keyboard
And what is you build, then, if I may ask ?
Skills and gear, please...
https://forum.uo.com/discussion/12146/luck-values-based-on-what-items-you-can-access
The value of luck you can use is based upon your skill and reflexes. That is why players with the same luck can get differing amounts of drops.
I can swing a 3.5 Sec weapon at max speed.
My impression is that I run all over the screen killing anything I see.... I do not stop to loot not even Paragons for chests... just run and kill....Lord_Frodo said:@ popps How long does it take you to kill one monster? I am watching people 1-3 hits and move on as fast as possible. If you are taking 5 min. to kill one monster then you seriously need to rethink everything.
popps said:My impression is that I run all over the screen killing anything I see.... I do not stop to loot not even Paragons for chests... just run and kill....Lord_Frodo said:@ popps How long does it take you to kill one monster? I am watching people 1-3 hits and move on as fast as possible. If you are taking 5 min. to kill one monster then you seriously need to rethink everything.
My biggest issue, is the slayers.... since there is way too many different monsters requiring different slayers, and I use the CC with no third party, changing slayers for Talismans and weapons is a mess, I do it manually and find myself having to look at what is what in my backpack before having to swap it...
It got so annoying that in the end I gave up swapping slayers and now I am running around with a demon weapon and an undead talisman and who cares if I do not match my targets slayers...
But this, slows down my kills times...
Only if there is a Paragon I then more focus on the correct slayers... I wished that this Event did not have so much variety or Monsters that required so much swapping of slayers which, in the end, helps mostly EC users or CC users with third party utilities... not regular CC users.
They created anti loot statue just because of your complaints do you not have and use ?popps said:My impression is that I run all over the screen killing anything I see.... I do not stop to loot not even Paragons for chests... just run and kill....Lord_Frodo said:@ popps How long does it take you to kill one monster? I am watching people 1-3 hits and move on as fast as possible. If you are taking 5 min. to kill one monster then you seriously need to rethink everything.
Today did an hour with the Luck statue which brough me to about 2,000 Luck.... the result was 13 drops in an hour...
By the way, upon dieing, if one has drops not insured, do the Monsters loot them or was this finally fixed by the Developers ( @ Kyronix ? ).
Since non-Paragon Monsters decay very fast, if they loot the uninsured drops from characters' corpses, it is very likely that with the time it takes to get ressed and back to one's own corpse, that the monster that looted might have been killed by someone else and the corpse decayed...
Monsters should NOT loot Shogun drops, PERIOD.
My biggest issue, is the slayers.... since there is way too many different monsters requiring different slayers, and I use the CC with no third party, changing slayers for Talismans and weapons is a mess, I do it manually and find myself having to look at what is what in my backpack before having to swap it...
It got so annoying that in the end I gave up swapping slayers and now I am running around with a demon weapon and an undead talisman and who cares if I do not match my targets slayers...
But this, slows down my kills times...
Only if there is a Paragon I then more focus on the correct slayers... I wished that this Event did not have so much variety or Monsters that required so much swapping of slayers which, in the end, helps mostly EC users or CC users with third party utilities... not regular CC users.
Oh the first thing you remove from max suit is the weapon. I can use slayers. I build max then remove items to get desired stats.Riner said:@ Pawain those are pretty impressive stats on the Dex suit. Do you find that the loss of the super slayer from the talisman hampers your damage? Think I'm going to work on one for my sampire\dexer to use in events.
You think they are going to give us Ice horses.TimSt said:My only complaint so far is normally tamable mobs are not tamable if they are marked and hued for the event.
When saying that all things are fine and dandy, I think it should also be mentioned what template (skills) is being used, what the gear (armor and weapons), and what combat tactics is being used so that fellow players can try to replicate it and see whether they can also get the same drop rate or not...Whitewolf said:im not understanding most of these complaints, i play a sampire, i been getting roughly 15 drops an hour with 0 luck, only paragons ive had issues with is paragon skel drag and a paragon Oni, rest of them easily take em toe to toe, there is enough spawn around if ya run low on life you just life leech from them while fighting the paragon.
When I was 14 I could beat you on my bike then trade bikes and beat you again. Then when I was 25 I could beat you in my car then trade cars and beat you again.popps said:When saying that all things are fine and dandy, I think it should also be mentioned what template (skills) is being used, what the gear (armor and weapons), and what combat tactics is being used so that fellow players can try to replicate it and see whether they can also get the same drop rate or not...Whitewolf said:im not understanding most of these complaints, i play a sampire, i been getting roughly 15 drops an hour with 0 luck, only paragons ive had issues with is paragon skel drag and a paragon Oni, rest of them easily take em toe to toe, there is enough spawn around if ya run low on life you just life leech from them while fighting the paragon.
If the Template is the same, the armor and the weapons are the same, the tactics used is the same, the results should be the same and if they are not, then the problem is the user at the keyboard, one could think....
But in order to try to replicate the same results (drops rate), clearly, at least to my opinion, players should share their template skills and stats, armor, artifacts, weapons and fighting tactics and then other players can try doing the same and eeing if they get or not same results..
Possibly.... nonetheless, I still think that players should at least give a chance to fellow players, sharing their "drops intensive" Templates skills, gear and combat tactics so that fellow players can at least "try" to replicate that drops rate...Pawain said:When I was 14 I could beat you on my bike then trade bikes and beat you again. Then when I was 25 I could beat you in my car then trade cars and beat you again.popps said:When saying that all things are fine and dandy, I think it should also be mentioned what template (skills) is being used, what the gear (armor and weapons), and what combat tactics is being used so that fellow players can try to replicate it and see whether they can also get the same drop rate or not...Whitewolf said:im not understanding most of these complaints, i play a sampire, i been getting roughly 15 drops an hour with 0 luck, only paragons ive had issues with is paragon skel drag and a paragon Oni, rest of them easily take em toe to toe, there is enough spawn around if ya run low on life you just life leech from them while fighting the paragon.
If the Template is the same, the armor and the weapons are the same, the tactics used is the same, the results should be the same and if they are not, then the problem is the user at the keyboard, one could think....
But in order to try to replicate the same results (drops rate), clearly, at least to my opinion, players should share their template skills and stats, armor, artifacts, weapons and fighting tactics and then other players can try doing the same and eeing if they get or not same results..
I can use my suit and get 6 drops per hour, another player can use it and get 20.
It is not the cookie cutter you want it to be.
Pawain said:When I was 14 I could beat you on my bike then trade bikes and beat you again. Then when I was 25 I could beat you in my car then trade cars and beat you again.popps said:When saying that all things are fine and dandy, I think it should also be mentioned what template (skills) is being used, what the gear (armor and weapons), and what combat tactics is being used so that fellow players can try to replicate it and see whether they can also get the same drop rate or not...Whitewolf said:im not understanding most of these complaints, i play a sampire, i been getting roughly 15 drops an hour with 0 luck, only paragons ive had issues with is paragon skel drag and a paragon Oni, rest of them easily take em toe to toe, there is enough spawn around if ya run low on life you just life leech from them while fighting the paragon.
If the Template is the same, the armor and the weapons are the same, the tactics used is the same, the results should be the same and if they are not, then the problem is the user at the keyboard, one could think....
But in order to try to replicate the same results (drops rate), clearly, at least to my opinion, players should share their template skills and stats, armor, artifacts, weapons and fighting tactics and then other players can try doing the same and eeing if they get or not same results..
I can use my suit and get 6 drops per hour, another player can use it and get 20.
It is not the cookie cutter you want it to be.

popps said:Possibly.... nonetheless, I still think that players should at least give a chance to fellow players, sharing their "drops intensive" Templates skills, gear and combat tactics so that fellow players can at least "try" to replicate that drops rate...Pawain said:When I was 14 I could beat you on my bike then trade bikes and beat you again. Then when I was 25 I could beat you in my car then trade cars and beat you again.popps said:When saying that all things are fine and dandy, I think it should also be mentioned what template (skills) is being used, what the gear (armor and weapons), and what combat tactics is being used so that fellow players can try to replicate it and see whether they can also get the same drop rate or not...Whitewolf said:im not understanding most of these complaints, i play a sampire, i been getting roughly 15 drops an hour with 0 luck, only paragons ive had issues with is paragon skel drag and a paragon Oni, rest of them easily take em toe to toe, there is enough spawn around if ya run low on life you just life leech from them while fighting the paragon.
If the Template is the same, the armor and the weapons are the same, the tactics used is the same, the results should be the same and if they are not, then the problem is the user at the keyboard, one could think....
But in order to try to replicate the same results (drops rate), clearly, at least to my opinion, players should share their template skills and stats, armor, artifacts, weapons and fighting tactics and then other players can try doing the same and eeing if they get or not same results..
I can use my suit and get 6 drops per hour, another player can use it and get 20.
It is not the cookie cutter you want it to be.
It could very well be as you say, yet, without being able to use the same "means" (i.e. same skills template, armor, weapons, combat tactics used), we would never know if the problem is the driver or the vehicle being used...
Why Should I ?popps said:
clearly, at least to my opinion, players should share their template skills and stats, .

Buick Opal Kadet Station Wagon.
Ran it into the back of a too slow Camaro owned by the Varsity QB, Luckily the team sucked that year. Put the engine into an Opel Manta.

Ok 84 parry, 120 sword, 120 tacs, 72 chiv, 120 bushido, 120 spell resist, 99 necro.popps said:When saying that all things are fine and dandy, I think it should also be mentioned what template (skills) is being used, what the gear (armor and weapons), and what combat tactics is being used so that fellow players can try to replicate it and see whether they can also get the same drop rate or not...Whitewolf said:im not understanding most of these complaints, i play a sampire, i been getting roughly 15 drops an hour with 0 luck, only paragons ive had issues with is paragon skel drag and a paragon Oni, rest of them easily take em toe to toe, there is enough spawn around if ya run low on life you just life leech from them while fighting the paragon.
If the Template is the same, the armor and the weapons are the same, the tactics used is the same, the results should be the same and if they are not, then the problem is the user at the keyboard, one could think....
But in order to try to replicate the same results (drops rate), clearly, at least to my opinion, players should share their template skills and stats, armor, artifacts, weapons and fighting tactics and then other players can try doing the same and eeing if they get or not same results..
On the spread out.Arnold7 said:Have played a few times now. Waste and below volcano areas pretty mage friendly. Ice area quite playable by two players working together, although think a mage working alone would get frustrated fairly fast here. But think this level is designed more for group play. Have not tried the other areas yet. Get about 5 drops an hour with about 350 luck before clicking on the statue. Think overall this event is not designed for melee players that depend on everything converging on them like in dungeons. Shogun creatures are too spread out for that in the areas I play. Think in spawn areas between volcano and ice area there is likely much more spawn in some of those areas. Overall think this event is quite playable. Rewards don’t appeal to me too much so plan on selling most drops which is fine with me. Think it is odd that the one weapon reward is prized.
That was a very helpful Post Thanks for your feedback.Garth_Grey said:So I made an attempt to participate in TotFL and was quickly met with examples of how it always goes, even on small shards. I recall into a spot kill 1 or 2 baddies, and some turdball runs up and starts killing everything in sight, single handedly..and then runs off. I call them out in GC for being the tool that they are, and of course they spout all of the usual excuses as to why they behave that way. Anyway, so I've given up on it, yeah I know, go somewhere else where there isn't anyone , I probably could have but didn't. Anyway the point of my reply. Events like these, with items that players want, should, in my opinion, be like Hollywood movies. For 6-8 wks they're in theaters so people who like theaters can go and be the first to see them, but eventually they make it to streaming for the rest of us that don't want to go back to theaters. We still want to see the movie, just not while sitting behind some hacking fool and their 6 kids. Some of us also want some of the new items that are introduced, but we don't want to go through the misery of trying to get them the normal way. That being said, @ Kyronix , if you guys are so quick to put Pots of Glorious Fortune for sale to boost participation in these events, after the events over and the bots have had time to sell their tons of drop duplicates, maybe considering putting these items on the ingame store for purchase ? If you'll sell potions for profit, I fail to understand why you won't sell other things for an even greater profit ? And for those that will now tell me to simply farm gold and buy them myself, no, I don't want to farm gold. I"m a grownup with disposable income, if you don't want to put items on the store for sale, put gold on instead, and I"ll buy that, then I"ll buy whatever item I may want from whatever event has recently occurred. I would really love to see a response as to why this isn't a thing,
My first actual car bought with my money was a '69 F100 longbed with a 352. I bored it and put a big ole cam in it. Then spent the rest of it's life replacing the drive shaft . . .Pawain said:❤️ you win.

Not the store but the black marketPawain said:That was a very helpful Post Thanks for your feedback.Garth_Grey said:So I made an attempt to participate in TotFL and was quickly met with examples of how it always goes, even on small shards. I recall into a spot kill 1 or 2 baddies, and some turdball runs up and starts killing everything in sight, single handedly..and then runs off. I call them out in GC for being the tool that they are, and of course they spout all of the usual excuses as to why they behave that way. Anyway, so I've given up on it, yeah I know, go somewhere else where there isn't anyone , I probably could have but didn't. Anyway the point of my reply. Events like these, with items that players want, should, in my opinion, be like Hollywood movies. For 6-8 wks they're in theaters so people who like theaters can go and be the first to see them, but eventually they make it to streaming for the rest of us that don't want to go back to theaters. We still want to see the movie, just not while sitting behind some hacking fool and their 6 kids. Some of us also want some of the new items that are introduced, but we don't want to go through the misery of trying to get them the normal way. That being said, @ Kyronix , if you guys are so quick to put Pots of Glorious Fortune for sale to boost participation in these events, after the events over and the bots have had time to sell their tons of drop duplicates, maybe considering putting these items on the ingame store for purchase ? If you'll sell potions for profit, I fail to understand why you won't sell other things for an even greater profit ? And for those that will now tell me to simply farm gold and buy them myself, no, I don't want to farm gold. I"m a grownup with disposable income, if you don't want to put items on the store for sale, put gold on instead, and I"ll buy that, then I"ll buy whatever item I may want from whatever event has recently occurred. I would really love to see a response as to why this isn't a thing,
Will will immediately change the game based on feedback from someone who played for 10 seconds.

| Hi @kyronix I don't usually tag you - but here is what I mean, when I say you gear the game too much towards warriors. This is my 2 accounts, and my 2 sons accounts, and these are the drops we are after. I love the drops, I love the event, but you can clearly see - my warriors stand to progress the most. |
Were any of them paragons?? that'd be sweet...Victim_Of_Siege said:I did notice that pirate ships had event Orcs on them. ima go try that and see how many i can get
Not everyone wants to be a Sampire 🙂Arnold7 said:Don’t see much here I would want for my mage. Think prices are rather high for stuff that wears out. Do have a question though. Why would I want gloves with a 30 point necromancy reduction on them? Why would this be desirable? Would not mind the 15 additional chivalry points but just don’t see why reducing necro. by 30 points would be useful. Thanks.
I sure will! Just need More!Cookie said:Not everyone wants to be a Sampire 🙂Arnold7 said:Don’t see much here I would want for my mage. Think prices are rather high for stuff that wears out. Do have a question though. Why would I want gloves with a 30 point necromancy reduction on them? Why would this be desirable? Would not mind the 15 additional chivalry points but just don’t see why reducing necro. by 30 points would be useful. Thanks.
Paladin healing warrior would love them.
And yet, the only 1 piece for Warriors with some Luck is the Feudal Cloak of Elements...Cookie said:
Hi @ kyronix I don't usually tag you - but here is what I mean, when I say you gear the game too much towards warriors. This is my 2 accounts, and my 2 sons accounts, and these are the drops we are after. I love the drops, I love the event, but you can clearly see - my warriors stand to progress the most.
Drop your chivalry by 15, wear Serpent skin quiver for +5 Anatomy. Raise necro to 120. Add +10 necro to jewel. One jewel slot for a 40 stat piece is not a bad trade off. The -30 necro is not a deterrent.Cookie said:Not everyone wants to be a Sampire 🙂Arnold7 said:Don’t see much here I would want for my mage. Think prices are rather high for stuff that wears out. Do have a question though. Why would I want gloves with a 30 point necromancy reduction on them? Why would this be desirable? Would not mind the 15 additional chivalry points but just don’t see why reducing necro. by 30 points would be useful. Thanks.
Paladin healing warrior would love them.
Oreogl said:You have two months.JohnKnighthawke said:Kyronix said:You need more luck. 700 is low by today's standards.
I'm dead in the water then. Oh well. Thanks for posting so that way I won't try.
what shard do you play? Aren’t you on GL too?
Kyronix said:You need more luck. 700 is low by today's standards.
I modified mine again to get full resists.Smoot said:i switch out chiv for healing for these global events. i do have 60 extra skill points on my suit, but even with only 30 extra skill points it would still be possible. just makes things easier.
tried a 1k luck suit and it wasnt worth the loss in stats. i get more drops killing faster and staying alive than with a luck suit.
