There is a sticky thread just for ideas like this:

https://forum.uo.com/discussion/9030/fall-dynamic-events-discussion#latest

but if we post in the sticky thread might not our post be over looked??

now if we post here in a new post do our ideas not have a better chance of being seen thus possible implemented?

this surely is the way to go it gives every player a level field when posting their ideas and there is no downside.
 just to clarify even with the existing thread might not my idea be better received in new thread without all the distractions of those other plainly lessor ideas?

at least that's the way i see it 

 😂 

Do you have a necro mage Popps or are you speaking for the people again ?

“Try ‘midnight bracers’”

Yoshi said:

“Try ‘midnight bracers’”

The problem with Midnight Bracers, is that, because they can be turned into Cuffs of the Archmage, they are ridicolousily priced... also, for the +20 Necromancy that they give, other then the physical resists which are ok, the other resists are way too low...

Furthermore, considering how Wraith Form comes on itself with +15% Physical Resists, to also have another +23% Physical Resist on the Midnight Bracers BUT, at the expense of the other Resists, is a waste, and also a costly one.... 

I'd rather be able to use earrings or a Sash or a Talisman or some Footware with +20 Necromancy... they would be a more acceptable trade off with existing items for same slots..... or, to see an enhanced Tangle that had, besides the normal properties of a Tangle, also +20 Necromancy on it.

I do not see it of any issue, since, with 0 Spirit Speak, the most that Wraith Form would bring to Elves and Gargoyles would be a +5% Mana Leech back so, adding +20 Necromancy to an item for a "side slot" such as earrings, sash, Talisman, Footware, or adding it to with an enhanced version of a Tangle to permit Elves and Gargoyles to go into Wraith Form, would be totally acceptable, IMHO.

with reference to this thread I believe the idea is to be able to cast wraith form without investing any points into the skill 
Katakotl’s Ring ring can give 20 necromancy
Bloodwood Spirit - 5 necromancy 10 spirit speak (or Necromancer's Phylactery Spirit Speak +10 )
Midnight bracers - 20 necromancy
Ossian Grimoire - 10 necromancy
+ random spawning bracelet up to another 20
So up to 65 points in Necro

Yes while there are many other perfectly acceptable ways to get what i suggest let me point out i shall ignore them all. 

But why you say ?
Now let's look at this in depth frankly none of these things are exactly what I've asked for so of course are just completely unacceptable 

The developers should therefore waste large amounts of time reading my lengthy dissertations on what ii need and why.

Case in point unless it's what I've asked for and well honestly even then i shall whole heartedly disagree with multiple paragraphs. 

But back to the task at hand which is plainly obvious I've a serious mental illness involving word counts which explains my love for necromancy as ii bore to death. 

At least that's how I see it

“Popps are you playing a mage necro? If so try the magic reflect spell.

As for the price, they’re free if you get them yourself - they still spawn.

you could have your own little event in doom”

Petra_Fyde said:

with reference to this thread I believe the idea is to be able to cast wraith form without investing any points into the skill 
Katakotl’s Ring ring can give 20 necromancy
Bloodwood Spirit - 5 necromancy 10 spirit speak (or Necromancer's Phylactery Spirit Speak +10 )
Midnight bracers - 20 necromancy
Ossian Grimoire - 10 necromancy
+ random spawning bracelet up to another 20
So up to 65 points in Necro

But the problem is, that to accomodate any of those items one would need to "re-organize" an entire suit...

Instead, I was thinking of an item taking a less important slot for a spellcaster (sash, earrings, talisman, footware...) that could be worn "on a fly", without having to mess up an existing suit too much, with the +20 Necromancy, so that also Elves and Gargoyles could do it... even if for a basis benefit of only +5% Mana Leech with 0 Spirit Speak...

I mean, for such a little benefit in Mana Leech, is it not worth it to re-work an entire suit, especially, considering how hard it is to find suit pieces for Gargoyles...

Introducing a less important slot with +20 Necromancy on it, could be beneficial to Elves and Gargoyles without having to mess up with their existing suits too much...

Petra_Fyde said:

Ossian Grimoire - 10 necromancy

McDougle said:

Yes while there are many other perfectly acceptable ways to get what i suggest let me point out i shall ignore them all. 

But why you say ?
Now let's look at this in depth frankly none of these things are exactly what I've asked for so of course are just completely unacceptable 

The developers should therefore waste large amounts of time reading my lengthy dissertations on what ii need and why.

Case in point unless it's what I've asked for and well honestly even then i shall whole heartedly disagree with multiple paragraphs. 

But back to the task at hand which is plainly obvious I've a serious mental illness involving word counts which explains my love for necromancy as ii bore to death. 

At least that's how I see it

The developers should therefore waste large amounts of time reading my lengthy dissertations on what ii need and why.

I imagine, that, with new and upcoming Events, the Developers might be looking at Feedback and ideas from players who play the game, about possible new Rewards which they might see as useful and to see as added in future, upcoming Treasures of events.

I happen to think that, a new Reward item using a secondary, less important slot with +20 Necromancy on it, could be beneficial to some players who may want to go into Wraith Form on a Elf or Gargoyle without having to mess up with their suit too much.

So, by no means am I trying to waste Developers' time but, only, trying to provide a point of few in an item which I think that, at least some players playing Elves and Gargoyles, might find interesting....

Of course, as with all Reward items, those who would not find such a new Reward item useful for them, would not need to bother using up their drops' point to claim it...

But that does not mean that it could not be beneficial to some "other" players, if the Developers were to make one such item as available...

At least, to my viewing.......

Yoshi said:

“Popps are you playing a mage necro? If so try the magic reflect spell.

As for the price, they’re free if you get them yourself - they still spawn.

you could have your own little event in doom”

As for the price, they’re free if you get them yourself - they still spawn.

The odds for getting Midnight Bracers as a drop in Doom are quite low.... considering how it is 1 item out of how many possible Doom drops ? I think they are about 39 or 40 possible drops AND, also to be considered, the drop rate is, to my understanding, 1 in a thousand (or 1 in a hundred for Dark Fathers).....

Bottom line is, MONTHS could go by without ever seeing a Midnight Bracers' drop....

As i see it what is needed is an improvement to the current top build the sampire i propose the poppampire with this build you will need little to no actual necromancy. 

This will free up skill points for other uses perhaps 

Now if this doesn't work rather than adjusting my build or play style i will pen epic lengthy reasons to nerf others build
 
Now it might appear crazy to use this approach but hear me out

With my obsession for 100 word post and my gid given ability to say nothing at all in many different ways i will simply wear everyone's resistance down

I will not even have to bother with logging in and playing people will send me all i desire 
And isn't getting exactly what I think is important what truly matters here

At least that's how I view it..

Yoshi said:

Petra_Fyde said:

Ossian Grimoire - 10 necromancy

"Juo'nar's Grimoire gives +15 necromancy, plus better mods

also missed out the cast-off zombie skin +5 necromancy, + 5 spirit speak"

The problem with Juo'nar's Grimoire, is that it only comes with +15% SDI.... an Invasion Spellbook with +50% SDI is, on comparison, much better to be used.

There is also the problem of the random slayer.... using it for going into Wraith form, and then happening to be fighting opposing Monsters to that Slayer, could become a problem.

As I said, it would be much more beneficial to have a new Reward be introduced, with the +20 Necromancy needed for Elves and Gargoyles to go into Wraith Form, with an item taking up a secondary, less important slot such as a sash, earrings, talisman, footware...

This way, one would not need to mess up too much with their existing suit for such a small benefit of +5% Mana Leech when having 0 Spirit Speak.

Yoshi said:

Petra_Fyde said:

Ossian Grimoire - 10 necromancy

"Juo'nar's Grimoire gives +15 necromancy, plus better mods

also missed out the cast-off zombie skin +5 necromancy, + 5 spirit speak"

🙂 Sorry, I didn't make a fully comprehensive list. I kind of lost patience with it. 

UO has, since inception, been a checks & balance, make choices game. No devs from the beginning have subscribed to the 'have your cake and eat it' philosophy. If you want the benefit of all those extra skill points, you have to give up something else. If you're of the 'I want it all' mind set, you're playing the wrong game.

But perhaps giving players more options and more importantly me exactly what I want despite and bearing on reality is a good thing 

I mean happy players spend more money and certainly i will just keep typing until my insane demands are met so why not just give in ?

The benefits of this are clear more templates i can not make then complain about 
My word count stays high and it's really a win win

To iterate what i want is totally not needed if i simply did what the entire rest of the player base does but i should be given ut anyway despite the many responses showing why not

At least that's how I see it 

popps said:

Just an idea....

Now let's ignore any facts or reality that doesn't make me happy. 

My plan for the Poppampire will go on 
Soon everyone will adapt and admire my clever build 
So back to the important issues 

1. I need what I want clearly as it's my idea it must be wonderful and good 
If it's good for me it's obviously gonna be good for you 
A happy player base spends more 
And my word count fetish is met once again 

Now let's ignore the nine other ways i can add necro and create a total new thing 
As i pointed out in the initial post creating a new thread and ignoring the existing one created by the developers makes my idea stand out and sure to succeed 

Going forward lets just keep facts and reality out of this discussion 

And I'm happy 


At least that's how I see it 

@Petra_Fyde

If you want the benefit of all those extra skill points, you have to give up something else.

@McDougle

This will free up skill points for other uses perhaps

@Yui_Zii_Ariya

Maybe you should have thought about this before creating your character, selecting your race, building your suit etc.

Honestly, I do not see the big of a deal to offer to Elves and Gargoyles the possibility to use Wraith Form with a mere +5% Mana Leech by introducing a new Reward "secondary slot" item come with +20 Necromancy on it, thus without forcing players to have to mess up too much with their existing suits and templates.

I hear people suggesting all sorts of most incredible items but then, if I suggest an item to consent to Elves and Gargoyles to more easily and with less headaches to use Wraith Form and to get what ? A mere +5% Mana Leech if with 0 Spirit Speak, and this should be the one item that would break Ultima Online balance ?

Yeah right......

And it should only cost 5 drops 

As it's my idea and obviously needed because I say so
It should of course be cheap and possibly a  new area
Created with no paragons that might be tough to kill 

Combine the cheap cost and relative safety everyone's gonna want 

After everyone has created their Poppampire i shall add more items that I and only i will feel ared necessary 

Now that's the view i like 

LMAO  and you people fell for it hook line and sinker.  You honestly thought that you could say anything to popps and get him to change his mind, that will NEVER happen but good try.

I think they should do it with all skills, in fact I want a pair of shoes with all 100 resists 200 Str 200 Dex 200 Int 200,000,000 HP 200 Stam 200 Mana 1000% all leaches/damages/SSI/HCI/DCI 100 all regens that by pass the regen caps 120 in all skills (even those without PSs) and they act like an all in one PS so PSs will never be needed all with no durability so they never wear out

I am sure I missed something so please feel free to and any other mods that I may have missed.
GOD mode shoes.

popps said:

Honestly, I do not see the big of a deal to offer to Elves and Gargoyles the possibility to use Wraith Form with a mere +5% Mana Leech by introducing a new Reward "secondary slot" item come with +20 Necromancy on it, thus without forcing players to have to mess up too much with their existing suits and templates.

I hear people suggesting all sorts of most incredible items but then, if I suggest an item to consent to Elves and Gargoyles to more easily and with less headaches to use Wraith Form and to get what ? A mere +5% Mana Leech if with 0 Spirit Speak, and this should be the one item that would break Ultima Online balance ?

Yeah right......

Honestly the skill cap is a joke as it stands why not another free 20...

Lord_Frodo said:

LMAO  and you people fell for it hook line and sinker.  You honestly thought that you could say anything to popps and get him to change his mind, that will NEVER happen but good try.

I think they should do it with all skills, in fact I want a pair of shoes with all 100 resists 200 Str 200 Dex 200 Int 200,000,000 HP 200 Stam 200 Mana 1000% all leaches/damages/SSI/HCI/DCI 100 all regens that by pass the regen caps 120 in all skills (even those without PSs) and they act like an all in one PS so PSs will never be needed all with no durability so they never wear out

I am sure I missed something so please feel free to and any other mods that I may have missed.
GOD mode shoes.

Are you really comparing GOD mode items with a new Reward item that would consent to an Elf or Gargoyle to more easily go into Wraith Form for a MERE +5% Mana Leech if with 0 Spirit Speak?

Seriously ?

Yoshi said:

popps said:

Honestly, I do not see the big of a deal to offer to Elves and Gargoyles the possibility to use Wraith Form with a mere +5% Mana Leech by introducing a new Reward "secondary slot" item come with +20 Necromancy on it, thus without forcing players to have to mess up too much with their existing suits and templates.

I hear people suggesting all sorts of most incredible items but then, if I suggest an item to consent to Elves and Gargoyles to more easily and with less headaches to use Wraith Form and to get what ? A mere +5% Mana Leech if with 0 Spirit Speak, and this should be the one item that would break Ultima Online balance ?

Yeah right......

"if you think giving players like me an extra 20 skill with no negatives would not be unbalancing, you have another thing coming.

While to you it would offer 0 skill to 20 skill necro, other players would be able to drop necro from 120 down to 100 and have an extra 20 skill to put towards something else, it would be massive power creep"

I would not be so sure about that.

How so ?

Because a player who has 120 Necromancy, most probably, uses it as his/her bread and butter, daily....

This means, likely, the need to "also" use the Necromancy Masteries which it means, the need to have those 120 Necromancy skill points all real skill points, and not 20 on items....

Furthermore, we have PLENTY of existing items with +skill points on them and they are neither rings nor bracelets...

We got head pieces, Talismans, some body pieces etc. coming with +skill points...

Just to mention one among many possible, the Shadow Dancer Leggings, give 40 skill points, 20 stealing and 20 stealth....

Yet, when I talk about adding +20 Necromancy on a secondary slot new Reward Item, all of a sudden, this would break the balance of Ultima Online ?

Really ?

Once you start running my new Poppampire build you won't need god or any items all the monsters just fall dead as you approach. 

This is why its important for me to start what others might think of as unnecessary or repetitive threads 
My ideas are so far advanced others simply can't even

I first discovered my word count fetish in middle school my teach Mrs Jones god rest her soul would just heap praises while leaning slightly forward 

To clarify my idea is wonderful all the supposed facts and reality should be ignored 


At least that's how I see it 

Victim_Of_Siege said:

I like that signature....

Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

I actually like the idea of +20 Necromancy on shoes.
the Treasures of Wildfire had Robe Of The Dark Monk
(with increased Karma Loss)
so why not give us 
Shoes of the Dark Monk
(let people choose if they want them as shoes, sandals, boots, thighboots, or gargoyle)

This might not be something that everyone would want.
but it could be a continuation of the storyline.
(I know I was one of the people who first saw the 
Dark Monk's in the Forest of the Dark and 
said that I want that Robe haha)

Victim_Of_Siege said:

I prefer these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Ao-iNPPUc

It's all in the way you ask . . .

Pawain said:

Victim_Of_Siege said:

I prefer these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Ao-iNPPUc

That's a great version,  but there's always time for a PPP

I get so bored of this crap. He creates a stupid question then becomes a self confessed king and debates ignores and discredits everyone opinions 

so who cares Popps?  Just get a life and do the following 

go to doom and get going. But I guarantee you can’t solo the gauntlet
buy the bracers. Surely you have enough gold

but here is the REAL problem

no one wants to play with you
no one will give you the stuff
you can’t get to Atlantic to buy it, or won’t, no one will bring things back for you
or you feel you are superior and won’t ask

basically everyone is sick of you and you have well and truly burnt your beidges

no one cares about YOUR problems 
you seem to want everything and offer NOTHING back 

that Is how WE see it


and build a sampire 
train a NEW pup 

and STOP representing the player base who absolutely do NOT want or need your representation 

please Petra create a filter so I just don’t see any of this bullshit anymore. And those that are sick or me can invite me too 🙂

popps said:

Lord_Frodo said:

LMAO  and you people fell for it hook line and sinker.  You honestly thought that you could say anything to popps and get him to change his mind, that will NEVER happen but good try.

I think they should do it with all skills, in fact I want a pair of shoes with all 100 resists 200 Str 200 Dex 200 Int 200,000,000 HP 200 Stam 200 Mana 1000% all leaches/damages/SSI/HCI/DCI 100 all regens that by pass the regen caps 120 in all skills (even those without PSs) and they act like an all in one PS so PSs will never be needed all with no durability so they never wear out

I am sure I missed something so please feel free to and any other mods that I may have missed.
GOD mode shoes.

Are you really comparing GOD mode items with a new Reward item that would consent to an Elf or Gargoyle to more easily go into Wraith Form for a MERE +5% Mana Leech if with 0 Spirit Speak?

Seriously ?

Yes.  You requested an unbalancing item and to show you how out of touch with the game you are and to prove that you do not care about UO other than what you think you need regardless what it does to all the other players.  People tell you why it is a bad idea and you do not care.  You are worse than a 3 tear old with i want I want I want.  This skill has been here for how many years and what you just decided to make one and now it is all about what popps wants, same thing with the pet training.

My troll is tried and needs a nap...why was this thread even allowed? Should have been closed with first post and combined with the sticky started by @Kyronix ..........

Lord_Frodo said:

popps said:

Lord_Frodo said:

LMAO  and you people fell for it hook line and sinker.  You honestly thought that you could say anything to popps and get him to change his mind, that will NEVER happen but good try.

I think they should do it with all skills, in fact I want a pair of shoes with all 100 resists 200 Str 200 Dex 200 Int 200,000,000 HP 200 Stam 200 Mana 1000% all leaches/damages/SSI/HCI/DCI 100 all regens that by pass the regen caps 120 in all skills (even those without PSs) and they act like an all in one PS so PSs will never be needed all with no durability so they never wear out

I am sure I missed something so please feel free to and any other mods that I may have missed.
GOD mode shoes.

Are you really comparing GOD mode items with a new Reward item that would consent to an Elf or Gargoyle to more easily go into Wraith Form for a MERE +5% Mana Leech if with 0 Spirit Speak?

Seriously ?

Yes.  You requested an unbalancing item and to show you how out of touch with the game you are and to prove that you do not care about UO other than what you think you need regardless what it does to all the other players.  People tell you why it is a bad idea and you do not care.  You are worse than a 3 tear old with i want I want I want.  This skill has been here for how many years and what you just decided to make one and now it is all about what popps wants, same thing with the pet training.

We just got Solaria's Secret Poison earrings which are quite a hell of a useful item with their +10 Ninjitsu and +10% Hit Chance Increase for a Ninja Stealth Poisoner but you say that having a pair of earrings with +20 Necromancy to permit to Elves and Gargoyles to get into Wraith Form more easily would break the game ?

Aheam.... alright........

Earrings most gargoyles can't use....

McDougle said:

Earrings most gargoyles can't use....

It depends how they would be Designed to be, I guess...

We all know that, while for humans and elves earrings are a secondary slot, for Gargoyles that is a primary slot...

Could be a Sash, though...... or some Footware.....

Or just not needed because of all the reasons listed above you continue to ignore?

I think this has gone on long enough.