Global Chat

I wasn't able to test this on TC, it's a bit clunky to use. I would like to see the option to type directly into the chat window instead of having to type ~Comma+Enter~ first...


I'm not sure if that's a viable option but it would be easier

what do you have to type in order to talk to a friend in global chat??  @Kyronix @Bleak

I posted it above...first you have to add them as a friend...then you click on the little icon next to their name....then you type in the comma ' and enter...their name will show up at the bottom left of your screen and when you hit enter the text appears in the box....like I said very clunky 

I tried that and it doesn't work, plus it keeps going offline randomly

Yeah mine does that too...sometimes friends names don't show up and sometimes they do....so I logged onto another character...after you've used the global chat..that big honkin window pops up every time I log in...would rather it not do that!

Anyway...one of my chars is not accepting global friend requests...no matter WHAT I do..

Once you target a person for global chat...even after you've accepted it, you will get the message ~The chat request has timed out~ even if you've already accepted it.

I logged into a different character on the same account....was able to add a friend but the name is showing up as the OTHER character..



Once you have a friend on the list, click on the little icon, it will turn yellow..(You know there's a page in the wiki for this, right? lol)

And actually now it's not working at all...I am testing it right now...so I think there are still issues with this system...might wanna move this to the bugs section!

Anyone know if there is a way to turn this off?
 

I don't think so....once you open it, you're stuck with it so hide it somewhere on your window lol

We cant make it work. There is no place to talk and , puts you in gen chat.

Larisa said:

I don't think so....once you open it, you're stuck with it so hide it somewhere on your window lol

Hide it is what I will do 🙂  Thanks!

The_Higgs_1 said:

what do you have to type in order to talk to a friend in global chat??  @ Kyronix @ Bleak

https://uo.com/wiki/global-chat/

Pawain said:

We cant make it work. There is no place to talk and , puts you in gen chat.

I actually got it to work once....and now it's not working....typing the comma and enter just makes you say ' in normal chat lol  

So, I got my global chat working in EC.

Had to check the tick box for GChat on the chat filters.

Oddly, when I set myself to offline, my "friends" also change to offline. So it is more like you're entering and leaving global chat rather than a friends list that keeps the status of your friends updated (like Steam or BNet).

This EJ launch is turning in to one big embarrassment for UO/BS. 

Arroth_Thaiel said:

So, I got my global chat working in EC.

Had to check the tick box for GChat on the chat filters.

Oddly, when I set myself to offline, my "friends" also change to offline. So it is more like you're entering and leaving global chat rather than a friends list that keeps the status of your friends updated (like Steam or BNet).

You only get friend status updates while you are online. 

Larisa said:

Pawain said:

We cant make it work. There is no place to talk and , puts you in gen chat.

I actually got it to work once....and now it's not working....typing the comma and enter just makes you say ' in normal chat lol  

The wiki has been updated to the correct command.

Ahhh I probably hit the space bar without thinking about it....thanks Bleak!

Sorry @Bleak bad wording on my part. I initially thought "offline" meant more like an "invisible" mode, where you could be offline but still see your friends status. (But it isn't, which is probably why you called it "offline" and not "invisible", eh?)

In the EC, I have to go into chat filters and tick the check box for GChat each time I login. This is after logging out to the main menu (without closing the window) to save settings. Is it intended to be that way? 

Arroth_Thaiel said:

Sorry @ Bleak bad wording on my part. I initially thought "offline" meant more like an "invisible" mode, where you could be offline but still see your friends status. (But it isn't, which is probably why you called it "offline" and not "invisible", eh?)

In the EC, I have to go into chat filters and tick the check box for GChat each time I login. This is after logging out to the main menu (without closing the window) to save settings. Is it intended to be that way? 

There is no default Global Chat tab in the EC but we will be adding one in the future. The chat filter settings will be saved per character when updating/creating a tab. 

Bleak said:

Larisa said:

Pawain said:

We cant make it work. There is no place to talk and , puts you in gen chat.

I actually got it to work once....and now it's not working....typing the comma and enter just makes you say ' in normal chat lol  

The wiki has been updated to the correct command.

To message another player, you must select the symbol by their name. The selected player will be indicated by the updated yellow color.  If a player is online their symbol will be white and the symbol will be black when offline.

Pressing the “ ’ “ key + Space will allow you to respond to the selected player.

I do all this. I press apostrophe and I type it above my head for all to see. Shift +' also just types '

Works for me....when you click on the icon and it turns yellow...type in the '  (The key next to the ENTER key) then SPACE...their name will show up on the bottom left:



Then hit ENTER and it will go into the chat window:

Though it's showing Lyndia as online and she's not so it should be black...but it works

Larisa said:

Though it's showing Lyndia as online and she's not so it should be black...but it works

Is another character from Lyndia's account logged in?

That is what is happening for me. It shows one of my characters online, but it is really a different character from that account that is online.

Which makes sense, since it is Global Chat. You only have to friend one character from someone's account and you can talk to them regardless of the character/shard they are playing on.

You will still only see the name of the character they allowed you to friend though.

Arroth_Thaiel said:

Larisa said:

Though it's showing Lyndia as online and she's not so it should be black...but it works

Is another character from Lyndia's account logged in?

That is what is happening for me. It shows one of my characters online, but it is really a different character from that account that is online.

Which makes sense, since it is Global Chat. You only have to friend one character from someone's account and you can talk to them regardless of the character/shard they are playing on.

You will still only see the name of the character they allowed you to friend though.

No Lyndia is my EJ account and I didn't even have a second client running at the time

Hmm, don't know @Larisa. Ghosts in the Machine.

ok  Press ' Then press space.

The wiki says '+ space.

Thanks. I got it to work.

Works when they go to another shard also.

Thanks

They meant type in the ' and a space...so they should write ~Type in the apostrophe and then space...or something like that so no one hits the plus sign like apparently you did

Bleak said:

Arroth_Thaiel said:

Sorry @ Bleak bad wording on my part. I initially thought "offline" meant more like an "invisible" mode, where you could be offline but still see your friends status. (But it isn't, which is probably why you called it "offline" and not "invisible", eh?)

In the EC, I have to go into chat filters and tick the check box for GChat each time I login. This is after logging out to the main menu (without closing the window) to save settings. Is it intended to be that way? 

There is no default Global Chat tab in the EC but we will be adding one in the future. The chat filter settings will be saved per character when updating/creating a tab. 

your not actually going to invest more time into global chat are you? just chalk it up as a loss and move on.

I'm using the EC with Pinco's UI, I have not a clue how to use the new chat, does it even work in the EC? Why is everything so complicated? Most other MMO's you just type /tell name and a message.... 

Remember they are working with 20 years of code that has been man-handled by MANY people...they have to work with what they have and I think they are doing a good job considering. 

The system is a bit clunky, but it works so hopefully we won't get a lot of HEY LARISA ARE YOU ON??? in gen chat...just look at the list and bam, you'll know! Once they get the bugs out So it's a really great concept, I am happy they put it in.

jaytin said:

I'm using the EC with Pinco's UI, I have not a clue how to use the new chat, does it even work in the EC? Why is everything so complicated? Most other MMO's you just type /tell name and a message.... 

This entire thing is written in humorous Monty Python voice, so take a deep breath, have a drink, and enjoy!

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Hi @jaytin! Yes Global Chat (GChat) does work in the EC. It just takes some finagling.

This is the wiki link explaining GChat, but it doesn't really take you into how to get it working.

https://uo.com/wiki/global-chat/

So, here is a step by step guide, in two parts.

Part 1:

Left click the round orange icon (Chat) in your menu bar. This will open the Global Chat window.

Left click Add Friend in the Global Chat window.

Target the character in game you want to add.

Have them accept your friend request.

Left click the small round orange icon beside where you enter text to talk to people.

Left click the left pointing arrow beside "/Select Friend" to open a drop down menu.

From the drop down menu click the name of the character you want to talk to.

That character name will now appear in brackets prior to the text you type where you talk to people. It would look something like this [Arroth Thaiel]:

Type in text to talk to that person.

Still not working? No, I didn't think so. 🙁

Part 2:

Right click the small round orange icon beside where you enter text to talk to people.

Untick the check box for "Auto-Hide"

Your System and Journal tabs should now show.

Right click the System tab and choose "Chat Filters".

Tick the box for GChat under "Chat Filters". It is the last filter in the list.

Click Accept.

Now you can see your GChat text in the System tab chat window.

Repeat this process for the Journal tab if you want to see GChat text in the Journal tab chat window.

Part 3: Wait, what?

As a bonus, if you log out to the main menu, then log back in with the same character, the GChat filter in both System and Journal tabs will be unchecked. That means you get to re-tick the check box for the GChat filter in both the System and Journal tabs every time you log in. Regardless of whether you are logging in with the same character or not.

Or....

Right click on the System tab and choose "New Tab".

Right click on the new tab, choose chat filter, and you will see that GChat is already ticked.

Skip using GChat in the System or Journal tabs and just switch to the new tab when you want to use GChat.

Don't try to name the new tab where Global Chat is working "Global Chat" though, that name is too long.

And there you go, GChat is working, in 18 easy peasy steps! 

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I'm guessing part 2 and part 3 are unintended and Bleak has something planned for the future as well, so I'd give it a patch or two. 

Hope this helps!

@Arroth_Thaiel OH. My. God! I found that just a tiny bit frightening....I will just wait a while until Pinco comes along and makes it all work with his magic wand... 

So you can put people in your global chat and they stay there forever?  

Can you talk to just selected ones?

You can see who is online. Thats nice.

Pawain said:

So you can put people in your global chat and they stay there forever?  

Can you talk to just selected ones?

You can see who is online. Thats nice.

Yes the characters you add to Global Chat stay there (they will appear as online if any character from that account is online).

You talk to just one of your global chat friends at a time. 

I think it is actually a nice addition to the game.

jaytin said:

@ Arroth_Thaiel OH. My. God! I found that just a tiny bit frightening....I will just wait a while until Pinco comes along and makes it all work with his magic wand... 

Sorry @jaytin, didn't mean to scare you! Typing it all out makes it seem far more complex than it is.

It actually works pretty well, there are just a couple of extra steps you have to do to get it there. (Almost like the EC itself!)

At least, I had to take some extra steps. That might be just me.

Arroth_Thaiel said:

Pawain said:

So you can put people in your global chat and they stay there forever?  

Can you talk to just selected ones?

You can see who is online. Thats nice.

Yes the characters you add to Global Chat stay there (they will appear as online if any character from that account is online).

You talk to just one of your global chat friends at a time. 

I think it is actually a nice addition to the game.

Ok so you can not highlight more than one.  You can just talk to one at a time.

I think I can handle that.  I am horrible at chatting.  I talk in the wrong one a lot.  Gen chat, party chat, guild chat, alliance chat.  At least just one would get the wrong chat this way.

Seems like a who is online thing.

Thanks

OK I added some peeps. in CC

You can talk to one at a time.  You only see the convos from one you have highlighted.

If another friend talks and you are not on their page, a tiny dot is by their name.

The parchment screen is too big.  I have no room for it.

@Bleak @Kyronix ; Can you make it so the friend list page can be shown by itself?  Then when we want to use it we can open the large text page.

Also would be nice if the tiny scroll icon showed if someone talked to you.

Thanks

The whole thing seems to be overly complicated and cumbersome, not intuitive at all, in most of the other games I've played I could easily work out how to send messages to people, I'll have a go again when I'm feeling less tired! 

It needs the following in CC

the friend list screen to open by itself.

the little global scroll to have a change when you get a message.

the message area is too big to leave open

I poked at Pinco about global chat, hopefully the wand beats it into submission. 

@Arroth_Thaiel While highly amusing, I'm afraid I have to say that is not my experience. 
1. you don't need to turn off autohide, mouse over the chat will unhide the system tab.
2. I only turned on the global chat once, on one character. From then on it is set to on for all characters logged in on this pc, regardless of account or shard. 

Is the whole point of this to talk to someone else on a different shard ? I guess I fail to see the need for this.

No it's more like...a guild list but with non-guild members....add your friends and see if they are online or not...you don't have to yell for them in gen chat and can talk to them even if you're not in a party. When I read GLOBAL chat I thought it was across shards too but it's not, still a nice little system.

It needs to have the same background as the new bank menus. This is too detailed a texture. Text doesn't look good on it.

They could also use guild roster code/set up to show online friends and such.

I havent mucked around with it yet. If you have someone added as your 'friend' to the global chat, or you to theirs, does it mean that they will always 'see' you when you are online, irrespective of you having it 'offline' or do you have the option to remain invisible? If so is it just a case of toggling online/offline?

Garth_Grey said:

Is the whole point of this to talk to someone else on a different shard ? I guess I fail to see the need for this.

It's more like being able to talk to the person you want to, without having to remember all their character names. You just message them and you are talking to them, regardless of what they are doing (as long as they stay on the same account). 

MissE said:

I havent mucked around with it yet. If you have someone added as your 'friend' to the global chat, or you to theirs, does it mean that they will always 'see' you when you are online, irrespective of you having it 'offline' or do you have the option to remain invisible? If so is it just a case of toggling online/offline?

No option for invisible.

If you are set to Online, your friends will see you as Online and your friends list will display the online/offline status of your friends.

If you are set to Offline, you are Offline (in terms of Global Chat anyway). Your friends will see you as Offline and your friends list will no longer display the online/offline status of your friends.

Bleak said:

The chat filter settings will be saved per character when updating/creating a tab. 

I have to tick the "GChat" filter every time I login. It doesn't seem to save the setting.

Question on the privacy. Are people allowed to send racist or antisemitic etc messages if the receiver does not complain. Are they logged somewhere perma and reviewed? 

Mervyn said:

Question on the privacy. Are people allowed to send racist or antisemitic etc messages if the receiver does not complain. Are they logged somewhere perma and reviewed? 

Both parties have to agree to add to global chat.

Are you asking if you can use this as a method to send racist messages to your friends?

Or are you wanting to set up your friends and have them banned?

You would have to ask your Developer buddies that question.  I'm sure you knew that and just are hoping for reactions to your post here.

My question is on the privacy of global chat. Some of my friends often send me messages that would be banned if said in game. (I don't mind) the question is about the privacy of the messages.

Here's an idea, don't do it, then you won't have to worry about it.

I'm not worried about it, but i would just like to know how private our private messages are, don't we have a right to know?

What was socially acceptable 20 years ago is not often not acceptable now. Who knows what will change in another 20 years, maybe people would not be allowed to call me "narcisitic" openly on forums...

DJAd said:

Bleak said:

The chat filter settings will be saved per character when updating/creating a tab. 

I have to tick the "GChat" filter every time I login. It doesn't seem to save the setting.

I had the same thing happen (EC by chance?). I had to log in, tick the GChat filter, and log back out 3 times in a row without doing anything else to get it to save the filter settings.

At the time I had 3 separate accounts (three account folders in Windows - only one client running, to get the GChat filter to stick), so maybe something was/is going on with the way the character/game info is saved in the user settings?

Sorry you're having problems with the GChat filter too, but at the same time, glad to know I'm not alone!

Arroth_Thaiel said:

DJAd said:

Bleak said:

The chat filter settings will be saved per character when updating/creating a tab. 

I have to tick the "GChat" filter every time I login. It doesn't seem to save the setting.

I had the same thing happen (EC by chance?). I had to log in, tick the GChat filter, and log back out 3 times in a row without doing anything else to get it to save the filter settings.

Yes in the EC. Considering the last publish was a bug fix i would of thought this might of been fixed.