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Treasures of the Undead Lords Rewards are on The NPC Check them out!

Started by Pawain · 2020-10-08 · 137 posts · General Discussions
#0
NPC at Deceit entry.
Looks like they listened to players.  The rewards are all the old stuff that was popular and some new stuff.

Some is very expensive!  250 points.  The new SSI Epaulet is Sweet!   Thanks @kyronix @bleak ;

Gonna Be fun!
https://uo.com/2020/10/07/treasures-of-the-undead-lords/

Some nice deco also!  Gonna be busy!
#1

10 ssi way to op for those epaulettes it should had 5 ssi another bad devs decision

#2
Why?  Makes it so more people can PvP?
#3
no test server no asking player advice....where this game is going?
#4
You would think yall would want things that make it easier to join PvP.  Guess not.  
#5

I've seen the List, it is about the strongest list we could have wished for.

No Disappointment here with that List, I'll be going for it.

Like you say, some old favourites back that players have been wishing for, and a couple of new really strong ones.


Ok - my question always these days - Can EJ accounts do it? My 2 boys are playing EJ accounts while they learn the game up, and to have them in there with me would be awesome.

#6

Ok to clarify, I'm astonished, this is the best of the bests list ever.

Even the Deco is very cool.

My other question has to be, is this available in Felucca?

It's already getting overcrowded in Trammel, the second it has kicked off, word is spreading on this one.



#7

i cant believe they didnt add this to fel

#8
My guild alone could have event style turnouts for this one, they really should have done a Felucca one if they haven't... The Trammies aren't going to be happy if we flood their dungeon.
#9
Fortis said:
no test server no asking player advice....where this game is going?
They tested this with the treasures of Orcish Kin and Treasures of Deceit. 

. . .Ok - my question always these days - Can EJ accounts do it? My 2 boys are playing EJ accounts while they learn the game up, and to have them in there with me would be awesome.

I cannot remember if EJ could do Treasures of Orcish Kin or Deceit, but since it is the same system it's likely the same answer.


#10
I know this event started late in its start date.
Will it last a long time? I honestly don't feel like I can accumulate 100 points.
#11
I hope everyone can participate, and not just blues and those who have access to shard shields who can go to dead shards. It seems they made the turn in artifacts shard bound and not all the rewards.

#12
Mervyn said:
I hope everyone can participate, and not just blues and those who have access to shard shields who can go to dead shards. It seems they made the turn in artifacts shard bound and not all the rewards.


This is a tough event, I've been on it all morning with a dexxer, possibly the best template, and got 10 drops. I do personally feel I'm getting into a nice relaxed way of doing this, I'm into the swing of it. It may be exactly the right level of toughness, it's hard to say yet.

The event is about 1 month long, 15th November I think it ends.

There are a ton of very difficult paragons, which make it very hard, death is always around the corner, this is clearly anti scripting, and working very well.

It's not available in Felucca, this is a huge shame, it's going to get seriously crowded. Multi-clienters here already.

I don't mind the toughness as such I guess... but lets see how it goes, this may be too hard for many. Maybe when we bring the guild in, it gets easier with numbers, we'll see.

I really want to know about EJ accounts for my 2 boys. Of course the easy answer, is try it myself, when they get in tonight.

#13
The difficulty level is very high.
I feel like you need a mage with a slayer spellbook or at least a masterful sampire.
Some tamer seems to be commanding their pets while being stealthy.
Hmmm? That seems a bit unfair. I wonder if they'll still get MAF on them while in stealth...
#14
@Kyronix - Can we please remove the shard bound from the wearable items?? I just logged on to ATL (6:30am) and literally the entire dungeon is camped with multiboxers running around in between. In that hour I was able to get 3 drops in the early morning hours... it's only going to get worse as more people wake up and log on.

I don't see the issue with being able to do it on a shard where I can actually run through and kill spawn without the multiboxers spamming thunderstorm. Just as many people that have the gold will buy the items from ATL to bring home as would play the low pop shards to get turn in points. It's not like things are limited.

I'm very excited at the rewards for this event but I'm already frustrated/annoyed ad the guy running around with 4 wraiths spamming thunderstorm or auto attack with the archers.
#15

Hi Kevin - re Atlantic - I do think if people are all going to congregate on 1 shard like they do, they need to think about the Pro's and Cons of that as such, and this is certainly 1 of the Cons, it would be a good way to spread out the action between shards if players realised that all being on Atlantic actually isn't helping them.

Another way to spread the load, would be to open Felucca up, there is a large player-base who prefer to play there. Quieter (off peak), no scripters/multi-boxers, more in control of your own destiny. Potentially the drop rate should be higher, to reflect the higher risk - and harder playstyle with no push-through and risk of pkers etc.

#16
It is nice, Tram or Fel whatever less important. Most important thing now is we need a petition and vote to extend this event for at least 3 months. I don't think I have enough time to farm much within a month. Have to work and other commitments, we are no school kids.

Furthermore, the rewards are shard bound. If we need to get it on other shards that we also play occasionally, there is not enough time to get it there.
#17
Who said the difficulty level is very high? I am taking naps in between spawns.....I'm not used to Tram Deceit, there's very little spawn that I can get too...lvl 4 is all behind locked doors and I can't get to it....killing skeletons and ghouls is  :/

Killed a few rams before they started spawning in  areas I can't get to and the stealth tamers are camped out down there.

If I'm lucky I might get one item in the month this event is active unless they somehow add more spawn down there. Even on a low pop shard like Origin with 3 ppl stealth taming there's nothing I can kill lol.

BUT I'm hoping to get some armor drops at least because purple is my FAVORITE color!
#18
@Larisa check the upper levels, spawn is not confined to its usual spawning spots. Paragons will soon sort out the stealth tamers. Did you not do the test event in the Orc dungeon on Origin? Anything can spawn anywhere and anything can be a paragon.
#19
@Larisa - looks like something was wonky on Origin.  Should find better results now.  Happy Hunting!
#20
Is everyone sure it's not working in Felucca? During the testing phase all the critters had to be cleared out of the dungeon before the "Treasures of" creatures would begin to spawn. Some of the dungeons in Felucca didn't start until nearly the end of the testing phase because of that.
#21
Okay coincidence that right after I posted this, the spawn EXPLODED...not literally! And omg Paragon Ossin Ram? NOT FUN! I'm good until the disarm.....*sigh*

MUCH better! Thank you for the spawn!
#22
Kyronix said:
@ Larisa - looks like something was wonky on Origin.  Should find better results now.  Happy Hunting!
YES thank you SO much! Lots of death now...for us! LOL much better ❤️
#23

Shard Bound = Good

Spawn = better to use mini-spawn style (like the year with pumpkin king). Fill the dungeon with mini-spawns everywhere. The current rate of random mob spawn is just too slow...

Reward:
Focusing Sash isn't worth 50 points. It was initially dropped in large quantity and isn't much desired even today. Might want to scale it down to 20, since jawbone and aid belt is rated at 30.
#24
Is everyone sure it's not working in Felucca? During the testing phase all the critters had to be cleared out of the dungeon before the "Treasures of" creatures would begin to spawn. Some of the dungeons in Felucca didn't start until nearly the end of the testing phase because of that.


Thanks for this post - we are testing it now, we don't have it up yet.


#25
Cookie said:
Is everyone sure it's not working in Felucca? During the testing phase all the critters had to be cleared out of the dungeon before the "Treasures of" creatures would begin to spawn. Some of the dungeons in Felucca didn't start until nearly the end of the testing phase because of that.


Thanks for this post - we are testing it now, we don't have it up yet.



Good luck! I hope it works for ya.
#26
Fortis said:

i cant believe they didnt add this to fel

Have you killed the residual spawn in Fel?  That's what Trammies had to do to make the new spawn start.
#27
Inaccessible monsters, this looks like a killing ground for players... ganked by monsters.



#28
took me a while but finally found a safe afk spot
#29
Suddenly I realised alot of active players on my shard :o
#30
Here's the list, in case anyone hasn't popped over to Deceit yet:

10 Rolled Invasion Map
10 Infected Brambles
15 Umbria’s Hemlock
20 Book of Lore
20 Demon Spirit of Morphius
30 Serpent’s Jawbone
30 First Aid Belt
50 Ranger’s Cloak of Augmentation
50 Katalkotl’s Ring
50 Boots of Escaping
50 Talons of Escaping
50 Sterling Silver Ring
50 Mask of Khal Ankur
50 Spell Focusing Sash
50 Pendant of Khal Ankur
100 Lord Morphius’ Epaulettes
100 General Lethe’s Epaulettes
100 Lord Morphius’ Epaulettes (gargoyle)
100 General Lethe’s Epaulettes (gargoyle)
250 Umbria’s Spellbook
250 Umbria’s Grimoire

#31
Cookie said:
Is everyone sure it's not working in Felucca? During the testing phase all the critters had to be cleared out of the dungeon before the "Treasures of" creatures would begin to spawn. Some of the dungeons in Felucca didn't start until nearly the end of the testing phase because of that.


Thanks for this post - we are testing it now, we don't have it up yet.



Good luck! I hope it works for ya.


Ok - we took an army in, and failed to get it working in Felucca.

We have since had it confirmed to us, this event is not operational in Felucca. 🙂



#32

My remaining question is - can Endless Journey accounts do this event?

I completely understand if they cannot, but if they can, it would be really cool for my boys, it's a perfect event for them to see the game, a very structurally defined hunt and reward system, it would teach them a lot about dungeon hunting and how to play. 🙂


If it is not open to EJ accounts, I may even Sub them both up.

#33
Cookie said:

Ok - we took an army in, and failed to get it working in Felucca.

We have since had it confirmed to us, this event is not operational in Felucca. 🙂
Ah, that sucks. Sorry to hear that.
#35
@Kyronix the fel side doesn't seem to be working.

we had this issue for the "Undead Kin" event as well.  Atlantic & Lake Superior shards, I havent checked others.
#36
Seth said:
Inaccessible monsters, this looks like a killing ground for players... ganked by monsters.



We had this on LS for testing and the Fel spawn uses the room where they are in planters.
You can kill then with spells like thunderstorm then kill individually with spells. Theres 500 more mobs to kill if you dont want to put in effort.

Tell me how you like the Para Poison eles, Rams and Swords.  Either fight the hard stuff or run past it.  My dog will clean up the mess.

#37
@Kyronix - Can you confirm if Fel should be working? When we did the test on LS/Europa etc for this event I believe I remember the Fel side also getting the event.

This is a must to help spread out the volume of people on ATL. Tram Deceit is stupid packed with multiple people camping in almost every room which has just increased as the day went on. This is especially important since I can't go to another shard to get away from all the multiboxing farmers because all the items are shard bound.
#38
Cookie said:
My remaining question is - can Endless Journey accounts do this event?
Yes.

I was just messing around in Deceit and got a turn-in reward with my EJ character.
#39
Cookie said:
My remaining question is - can Endless Journey accounts do this event?
Yes.

I was just messing around in Deceit and got a turn-in reward with my EJ character.
LOL dev team really dropped the ball on this event...enabling multiboxers who use ejs with little risk and high reward...well done
#40
Cookie said:
My remaining question is - can Endless Journey accounts do this event?
Yes.

I was just messing around in Deceit and got a turn-in reward with my EJ character.


@Kyronix - Is this true? That's very unfair for those paying customers like myself on Atlantic. No wonder it's insanely mobbed on Atlantic with rampant multiboxing going on
#41
keven2002 said:
Cookie said:
My remaining question is - can Endless Journey accounts do this event?
Yes.

I was just messing around in Deceit and got a turn-in reward with my EJ character.


@ Kyronix - Is this true? That's very unfair for those paying customers like myself on Atlantic. No wonder it's insanely mobbed on Atlantic with rampant multiboxing going on

 I ran one of the accts I have not resubbed yet there this morning and got two.

#42
keven2002 said:
Cookie said:
My remaining question is - can Endless Journey accounts do this event?
Yes.

I was just messing around in Deceit and got a turn-in reward with my EJ character.


@ Kyronix - Is this true? That's very unfair for those paying customers like myself on Atlantic. No wonder it's insanely mobbed on Atlantic with rampant multiboxing going on


I can also confirm, I didn't wait for the answer here, my boys were desperate to go in and see it, so I took them, we partied up, and one of them got drops. Then I died, and he still got drops lol.

From my perspective, it is completely legitimate, my boys are learning to play on EJ accounts as we build them up, and I needed to see if they enjoy the game or have time to play it. The plan is to Sub them when I feel they are ready. (They are quite young).

I received 30 drops today, 8 of them with my boys, and we had the best fun ever. It was the perfect scenario to introduce them into UO, it was busy, packed, madness, chaos, lots of shouting and teamwork, lots of different monsters to get our teeth into and things to learn, Many friendly faces of my guild were around also. They are definitely talking about subbing permanently, it's content like this that can attract players.

Other positives we have had as we build them up, Tyballs Shadow and getting their Shroud of the Condemned was a stand-out memory, as was the other day, Renowned Acid Elemental getting a Berserkers Breastplate for the first time, I've never even got one myself. I find training in UO can get to be monotonous, we are all used to the style, but for a new player, you have to link the training and the play, into building the character and the suit to make it fun. So this Event is perfect, I'm pointing at the Epaulettes which are amazing, and saying, that's what we are going for, and they are getting to experience that feel of working towards an achievement and reward In a structured way.

#43
keven2002 said:
@ Kyronix - Can you confirm if Fel should be working? 
You are looking for communication from your Dev team? Good luck!
#44
Currently the event is live in Trammel Deceit only.  Based on soft launch metrics the participation in Felucca was very low.  We will monitor over the next few days and adjust accordingly.  Happy Hunting!
#45
Kyronix said:
Currently the event is live in Trammel Deceit only.  Based on soft launch metrics the participation in Felucca was very low.  We will monitor over the next few days and adjust accordingly.  Happy Hunting!


That is because it was not worth our time or effort. 🙂

Felucca is where the elite skilled veteran players who have everything play, you've got our attention now. 🙂


I will actually add - on Europa, it is actually going ok, I've done a day of it, and it is not out of balance, it is possible Trammel alone can cope. But from a PvP perspective, or players who want that fun aspect added, they are going to miss out.

#46
Kyronix said:
Currently the event is live in Trammel Deceit only.  Based on soft launch metrics the participation in Felucca was very low.  We will monitor over the next few days and adjust accordingly.  Happy Hunting!
  Fel participation is going to remain low in if it's not turned on.

#47
Pawain said:
Seth said:
Inaccessible monsters, this looks like a killing ground for players... ganked by monsters.

We had this on LS for testing and the Fel spawn uses the room where they are in planters.
You can kill then with spells like thunderstorm then kill individually with spells. Theres 500 more mobs to kill if you dont want to put in effort.

Tell me how you like the Para Poison eles, Rams and Swords.  Either fight the hard stuff or run past it.  My dog will clean up the mess.

Yeah, I know we can relogin with mage or archer.

It is like going to champspawn with a warrior and unable to kill all those monsters stucked on the ledge.

The "500" mobs are not enough even for my low pop shard. We spend more time running around looking for significant mob to kill, then the killing itself. I think if there r monsters like the Generals in Invasion would be perfect. At least one kill can earn say 100 points rather than running around for an hour trying to gather 100 x 1-point monsters to kill. Numbers are just to illustrate what I mean.


#48
Trust me, there would be mad action if this was live in fel.

20+ people in disco ready to roll (DX atl) no doubt PRO & NEXT would have more.

You’d have to call cloudflare to keep the server up as they’d be roll’n deeeeep.

#49
yeah pu this in fel asap it will bring easy fight event
#50
Seth said:
It is nice, Tram or Fel whatever less important. Most important thing now is we need a petition and vote to extend this event for at least 3 months. I don't think I have enough time to farm much within a month. Have to work and other commitments, we are no school kids.

Furthermore, the rewards are shard bound. If we need to get it on other shards that we also play occasionally, there is not enough time to get it there.
Most important thing now is we need a petition and vote to extend this event for at least 3 months.
Absolutely !

I'd say let it run for 6 months !!

There is way too many cool items to get especially, for all those New and Returning players who missed the Events awarding them in the past and, thus, who have none of them.

And it is not like making points is that quick.... so, in order to be able to get at least 1 of each item, some 1,500 points (moreless) need to be earned which it takes considerable time.

Furthermore, as we all know, they are all "Shard Bound" items thus, all players wanting or needing them on several Shards, will need to earn their points on multiple Shards and this will further make it a much longer work.

That is why I am suggesting to let it run for 6 months.

@Mesanna , @Kyronix , @Bleak , can we please get the Treasures of the Undead Lords content run for way longer then a mere 1 month ?

Thanks !
#51
Kyronix said:
Currently the event is live in Trammel Deceit only.  Based on soft launch metrics the participation in Felucca was very low.  We will monitor over the next few days and adjust accordingly.  Happy Hunting!
@Kyronix - Thanks for the response but I strongly disagree with this. The soft launch metrics were based on 3 rewards that were 100% "collector" items and honestly not worth the effort. That is a very poor sample size given the reward. It also wasn't on Atlantic. It was on lower pop shards that currently still have no issues in Tram (like origin). I don't understand why it's even an issue turning it on in Fel. If it's "low participation" why does it matter to the Dev team? That being said, Atlantic needs another outlet to get these drops. You cannot funnel everyone into Tram and have the spawn rate the same as it is. It's painful trying to get the drops. You already made the things shard bound which limits my options to strictly my home shard of Atlantic and it's further limited by the fact that it has to be in Tram.

I want to do this event. I am excited for the rewards (even if they are shard bound) as you guys did an awesome job this year with all the options. Please turn it on in Fel so there is at least an option to go and get rewards. Otherwise there is no chance I will be able to get every reward that I want and the whole idea of adding so many cool options would be a waste. Thanks.
#52
@Kyronix - Feel free to pop into Atl and see that it's barely 10am and the dungeon is packed. Fel side needs to be opened up for overflow.
#53
Thanks for the feedback.  On Atlantic we have opened Felucca Deceit for Treasures of the Undead Lords.  Continue to exchange and collect artifacts/rewards at the Trammel based NPC.  I expect there to be much bloodshed and such fighting. 
#54
Kyronix said:
Thanks for the feedback.  On Atlantic we have opened Felucca Deceit for Treasures of the Undead Lords.  Continue to exchange and collect artifacts/rewards at the Trammel based NPC.  I expect there to be much bloodshed and such fighting. 

Other shards want Fel open as well.
#55
yes open fel on catskill please...some people like to play red character it s not only a trammy game i wish since all effort going this side
#56
Atlantic only???
#57
Kyronix said:
Thanks for the feedback.  On Atlantic we have opened Felucca Deceit for Treasures of the Undead Lords.  Continue to exchange and collect artifacts/rewards at the Trammel based NPC.  I expect there to be much bloodshed and such fighting. 
Thanks so much!!

I look forward to the risk vs reward there as well 🙂
#58
keven2002 said:
Kyronix said:
Thanks for the feedback.  On Atlantic we have opened Felucca Deceit for Treasures of the Undead Lords.  Continue to exchange and collect artifacts/rewards at the Trammel based NPC.  I expect there to be much bloodshed and such fighting. 
Thanks so much!!

I look forward to the risk vs reward there as well 🙂
Dragging para Rams, Lich Lords and poison eles around it not much risk.  😂
#59
Origin is half broken again...I posted in the bug forum but not sure how often they look there?

Lvl 1,2 and 3 have normal, no-named spawn...lvl 4 half of it is inaccessible unless you can shadow jump or find the secret door that is supposed to be there but isn't? 

I killed a named silver serpent and got a drop but since then like....4 silver serpents have spawned down there and that's it? The upper floors are borked 🙁

I would love to do this in Fel...I do enjoy killing people...er...helping people ;)


#60
Larisa said:
Origin is half broken again...I posted in the bug forum but not sure how often they look there?

Lvl 1,2 and 3 have normal, no-named spawn...lvl 4 half of it is inaccessible unless you can shadow jump or find the secret door that is supposed to be there but isn't? 

I killed a named silver serpent and got a drop but since then like....4 silver serpents have spawned down there and that's it? The upper floors are borked 🙁

I would love to do this in Fel...I do enjoy killing people...er...helping people ;)


@Kyronix
#61
@Kyronix why the favoritism for ATL? i mean, they're all shard bound, why not let us pvp for the arties on every shard like the khaldun event?
#62
MmMmJake said:
@ Kyronix why the favoritism for ATL? i mean, they're all shard bound, why not let us pvp for the arties on every shard like the khaldun event?

Did you log into ATL to see how it was in Tram? It was literally packed from shard up to shard down. I went on to a few other shards around 3pm EST and Deceit Tram was dead (no pun intended). 

Didn't you know most people (according to the Legacy shard discussions) don't like PvP anyway 🙂

#63
@Kyronix requests for Fel deceit to open on LS.   Open so we can find something to kill in tram. Thanks
#64
keven2002 said:
MmMmJake said:
@ Kyronix why the favoritism for ATL? i mean, they're all shard bound, why not let us pvp for the arties on every shard like the khaldun event?



Didn't you know most people (according to the Legacy shard discussions) don't like PvP anyway 🙂


I understand the Atlantic situation. 🙂


I would like to point out, as others are mentioning, there is a good PvP community on Europa who would love it to be open in Felucca on Europa also.

#65
Pawain said:
@ Kyronix requests for Fel deceit to open on LS.   Open so we can find something to kill in tram. Thanks
Yes I 2nd this along with most guilds on the shard.
#66
interesting factoid, the fel spawn paragons drop chests
#67
Mervyn said:
interesting factoid, the fel spawn paragons drop chests

So do tram.
#68
@Kyronix why not open TOD on Fel for all shards.
#69
there is no npc artifact trader outside fel deceit, so you must transfer the artifacts onto a blue to hand them in
#70
popps said:
Seth said:
It is nice, Tram or Fel whatever less important. Most important thing now is we need a petition and vote to extend this event for at least 3 months. I don't think I have enough time to farm much within a month. Have to work and other commitments, we are no school kids.

Furthermore, the rewards are shard bound. If we need to get it on other shards that we also play occasionally, there is not enough time to get it there.
Most important thing now is we need a petition and vote to extend this event for at least 3 months.
Absolutely !

I'd say let it run for 6 months !!

There is way too many cool items to get especially, for all those New and Returning players who missed the Events awarding them in the past and, thus, who have none of them.

And it is not like making points is that quick.... so, in order to be able to get at least 1 of each item, some 1,500 points (moreless) need to be earned which it takes considerable time.

Furthermore, as we all know, they are all "Shard Bound" items thus, all players wanting or needing them on several Shards, will need to earn their points on multiple Shards and this will further make it a much longer work.

That is why I am suggesting to let it run for 6 months.

@ Mesanna , @ Kyronix , @ Bleak , can we please get the Treasures of the Undead Lords content run for way longer then a mere 1 month ?

Thanks !
No...this is a halloween event not an all holiday event. It shouldn't even go into november if you ask me but it was started a week and a half late so I understand the push into november. This should stay the 1 month for the month of halloween.

You guys beg all the time for stuff to be shard bound. Now you've got it and complain about the dungeon being too crowded and the drop rates too low...deal with it. You got what you asked for.

Now maybe you will realize that shard bound stuff isn't good when you have a limited supply...
#71
keven2002 said:
MmMmJake said:
@ Kyronix why the favoritism for ATL? i mean, they're all shard bound, why not let us pvp for the arties on every shard like the khaldun event?

Did you log into ATL to see how it was in Tram? It was literally packed from shard up to shard down. I went on to a few other shards around 3pm EST and Deceit Tram was dead (no pun intended). 

Didn't you know most people (according to the Legacy shard discussions) don't like PvP anyway 🙂

Shard bound reward items for events on Atlantic = crowded day and night...deal with it and stop complaining.
#72

So yesterday when i looked there was a first aid belt for 30 points which seems to of disappeared?  Anyone else still see it?  Also the ONLY two items that say shard bound are the invasion scroll and the tome, NFI why, as who on earth needs those to be shard bound?  So I am either missing something or something changed. Or the EC is totally messed up and I am not seeing what  you guys are. As you see the tool tip for Epaulettes does NOT say shard bound.
#73
I have not exchanged any rewards yet but if they are not shard bound them great! Who was the one spreading they are shard bound.. 

#74
Seth said:
I have not exchanged any rewards yet but if they are not shard bound them great! Who was the one spreading they are shard bound.. 

  they are shard-bound.
#75
CovenantX said:
Seth said:
I have not exchanged any rewards yet but if they are not shard bound them great! Who was the one spreading they are shard bound.. 

  they are shard-bound.

Thanks, I just found another screen capture too, so they are all shard bound.
#76
Can you open Europa Fel for this please
#77
@MissE ; They removed the belts because they did not have the 10% healing bonus. They will return when fixed.

The rewards that use the dynamic system will all be shard bound.  They say it will make the small shards grow.  LS has grown because a lot of players returned.  Now they cant do content and sell their items in a market that flows so they are pretty angry about cost of scrolls and other items since they lost a way to make gold.  The regulars are doing the content so they dont need to buy stuff.  I do not see how shard bound drops is going to make players stay when they can not use the shopping hub of Atlantic.
#78
Pawain said:
@ MissE  They removed the belts because they did not have the 10% healing bonus. They will return when fixed.

The rewards that use the dynamic system will all be shard bound.  They say it will make the small shards grow.  LS has grown because a lot of players returned.  Now they cant do content and sell their items in a market that flows so they are pretty angry about cost of scrolls and other items since they lost a way to make gold.  The regulars are doing the content so they dont need to buy stuff.  I do not see how shard bound drops is going to make players stay when they can not use the shopping hub of Atlantic.
@Pawain Seen epaulettes were selling for a plat on Atlantic earlier lol. And someone had epaulettes trying to sell for 500m on europa. Even with shardbound.... Everyone copies atlantic prices... Sometimes marks it up more.
#79
Yup I saw they are trying to get high prices now for the epaulets. This is a good example of how players on small shards are going to be taken out of the market place. If the epaulets are going to stabilize at 300M in a few months.  That means these drops would be worth 3M gold each. 

People on Atlantic would pay that price right now. Are players on small shards going to pay that much for the drops?  Or for the item?  I doubt it. Small shards have regular players that  do the events.  I am not going to pay 1M per drop when I can get my own. @popps are you going to help players on your shard by buying drops for 5M each or the epaulet for 500M?  These players could have taken the drops or items to Atlantic and sold them so they can buy gear and scrolls for their toons.  @popps are you going to step in and help them get scrolls and gear? You think shard bound is good.  Tell that to a player who collects 200 drops and cant take them to a shard where they have value.  Shard bound is going to be a boon to RMT. The only way for a returning player to make gold now is being removed. Who is going to step up and buy the epaulet for 500M in bulk on small shards?  Scrolls still cost the same, armor still costs the same. Returning player heads straight to RMT site.
#80
Pawain you know that you can move your points right? Farm any shard you like turn them in and then transfer and pick your reward its not that hard with shard shields.
#81
Yikes that sounds unintended.  The returners don't have shields. I want 5 of the SSI versions so I will not have spare points to travel with. Another boost for the old guard.
#82
Pawain said:
Yup I saw they are trying to get high prices now for the epaulets. This is a good example of how players on small shards are going to be taken out of the market place. If the epaulets are going to stabilize at 300M in a few months.  That means these drops would be worth 3M gold each. 

People on Atlantic would pay that price right now. Are players on small shards going to pay that much for the drops?  Or for the item?  I doubt it. Small shards have regular players that  do the events.  I am not going to pay 1M per drop when I can get my own. @ popps are you going to help players on your shard by buying drops for 5M each or the epaulet for 500M?  These players could have taken the drops or items to Atlantic and sold them so they can buy gear and scrolls for their toons.  @ popps are you going to step in and help them get scrolls and gear? You think shard bound is good.  Tell that to a player who collects 200 drops and cant take them to a shard where they have value.  Shard bound is going to be a boon to RMT. The only way for a returning player to make gold now is being removed. Who is going to step up and buy the epaulet for 500M in bulk on small shards?  Scrolls still cost the same, armor still costs the same. Returning player heads straight to RMT site.
This is with every new item, AT FIRST their price is way high then, as more and more get it into the game the price goes way down.

YES, Shard Bound is a Blessing, I have no doubt for that and I will never stop thanking the Developers for doing that !!

Thanks @Mesanna , @Kyronix , @Bleak , @Misk and all of them !!
#83
@popps the SSI epaulet will not drop below 200M on Atlantic. It will be like a demon cameo, but limited supply.  How does this help small shards?  Again, are you going to buy the items at these prices?  Someone on Atl would.

Someone is going to move to a new shard so they can sell items for less?
#84
Chrille said:
Pawain you know that you can move your points right? Farm any shard you like turn them in and then transfer and pick your reward its not that hard with shard shields.
Really? This defeats the purpose of the drops being shard bound 
#85
Yes well shard bound will KILL the game.  If I can't sell stuff then there is zero point in bothering to get it.  I guess they will learn when people stop playing. Won't be my problem. But as it stands atm as you see above NONE of the items on Oce, accept the scroll and tome actually 'say' shard bound when you look at the gump.   So if they actually are then it is blantant false advertising.  I don't want crap that is shard bound it is of zero use to me.  Talk about a way to kill off any enjoyment. 
#86
Okay Karen.
#87
MissE said:
Yes well shard bound will KILL the game.  If I can't sell stuff then there is zero point in bothering to get it.  I guess they will learn when people stop playing. Won't be my problem. But as it stands atm as you see above NONE of the items on Oce, accept the scroll and tome actually 'say' shard bound when you look at the gump.   So if they actually are then it is blantant false advertising.  I don't want crap that is shard bound it is of zero use to me.  Talk about a way to kill off any enjoyment. 
@MissE make a vote on the poll and list your reasons why to each answer.
#88
Mervyn said:
Okay Karen.
That could be said for anyone who is for shard bounding too. Not inclusive.
#89
@Kyronix ORIGIN spawn is broken again!!! Maybe just check it every day? 


Top 3 lvl's are no-name mobs, only lvl 4 has the named mobs 🙁

And no drops off lvl's 1-3

#90
Low Pop Shard Vs Atlantic High Pop Shard Comparison:

Tried both and find that the Atlantic mobs are more than my shard. I died at least 5 times in Atlantic and 0 times on my shard.

In Atlantic, teamwork is necessary at times, if not there will be alot of OooOoo.
When we see paragons in Atlantic its like *gasp*... so many. Lets wait for more players.

In my shard, we rather be solo, because the spawn is so scarce.
When we see paragons on my shard, its like *yummy*... let me have it all by myself...

Completely 2 different experience.


#91
Chrille said:
Pawain you know that you can move your points right? Farm any shard you like turn them in and then transfer and pick your reward its not that hard with shard shields.
No this does not work. I've already tried it...
#92
RockStaR said:
Pawain said:
@ MissE  They removed the belts because they did not have the 10% healing bonus. They will return when fixed.

The rewards that use the dynamic system will all be shard bound.  They say it will make the small shards grow.  LS has grown because a lot of players returned.  Now they cant do content and sell their items in a market that flows so they are pretty angry about cost of scrolls and other items since they lost a way to make gold.  The regulars are doing the content so they dont need to buy stuff.  I do not see how shard bound drops is going to make players stay when they can not use the shopping hub of Atlantic.
@ Pawain Seen epaulettes were selling for a plat on Atlantic earlier lol. And someone had epaulettes trying to sell for 500m on europa. Even with shardbound.... Everyone copies atlantic prices... Sometimes marks it up more.
I would sell it for that much as well. That's what happens on populated servers with shard bound items. Some people may not even get to 100 drops in a month due to over population. I wouldnt be surprised if there no more than 100 of these epaulettes on Atlantic when this is said and done. The people that will have most of them will be the website's that sell the gold & items and they will jack the price up on them for irl $. Players who farm smaller servers and bring stuff to Atlantic actually help the economy in bringing the pricing down due to more of said items being readily available. Example...if you shard bound powerscrolls one large guild will monopolize the scrolls and the prices will double if not higher...how exactly does this help a new player get these items? They start with 1k gold but yet the game isn't like it was 20+ years ago you spend half your gold on a horse...I hope there ends up being a very small amount of these items for sale on Atlantic and people start crying for the event to be extended and I hope the devs dont extend it then when they dont get one of the items in time and cant afford the gold to buy one then maybe they will stop asking for shard bound items
#93
still only atlantic for it in fel....shard bound and not equal event on all server ? if i want to do this event with pvp i need to play atl only....really sad
#94
How the hell is this NOT on in Fel on every shard? 
#95
CovenantX said:
How the hell is this NOT on in Fel on every shard? 

I agree.
#96
Shard bound could drive the price up, not down. This is because of limited supply per shard, and only 30 days to get the drops which have very slow drop rate. 
#97
Seth said:
Shard bound could drive the price up, not down. This is because of limited supply per shard, and only 30 days to get the drops which have very slow drop rate. 
On my shard i can’t find one single powerscroll for sell on vendor search as i believe every single powerscroll is tunnelled to Alt. I actually have difficulty in finding taming and swordsmanship lvl 2 mastery let alone lvl 3. If the ssi epaulettes and 50% spell book are not shard bound i’m sure they will all go to Alt as well. So which one is better, higher price or no item for sell at all? I honestly don’t know. 
#98
turning the event on in fel on atlantic and not other shards is a slap in the face by our dev team. What makes one shard more important then another?!?!  Unbelievable!!  @Kyronix @Mesanna
#99
Aragorn said:
Seth said:
Shard bound could drive the price up, not down. This is because of limited supply per shard, and only 30 days to get the drops which have very slow drop rate. 
On my shard i can’t find one single powerscroll for sell on vendor search as i believe every single powerscroll is tunnelled to Alt. I actually have difficulty in finding taming and swordsmanship lvl 2 mastery let alone lvl 3. If the ssi epaulettes and 50% spell book are not shard bound i’m sure they will all go to Alt as well. So which one is better, higher price or no item for sel   l at all? I honestly don’t know. 
Yes, its like the Kal Ankur Gargoyle mask. I have only one piece left and no one selling on Atlantic, if I bring over I can sell for any price I want because its very limited on stock.

Again its pure economics. Make them shard bound limits the qty available for cross shard trade. 1 platinum, or higher same price as Lieutenant sash non replica is expected. If anyone sell less than plat its a good price.
#100
turning the event on in fel on atlantic and not other shards is a slap in the face by our dev team. What makes one shard more important then another?!?!  Unbelievable!!  @ Kyronix @ Mesanna
¹Agreed
#101
@Kyronix @Mariah ;

Are there publish notes that gives the description of the Treasures of event? Like what each item has as mods etc? Just curious if I overlooked it since I'm trying to figure out what the rolled invasion map and hemlock rewards are since I can't transfer to test center with my points to see what they are personally (and don't want to use points if it's just deco). 

Thanks!
#103
Guys this is supposed to be a game. A lot of people telling you it will be more fun to have it activated on fel on their shard. Personally I think activating harrowers till that’s deciet too would be amazing fun, the champ up with paragons and PvP amazing. Stop worrying about shard bound and start worrying about the game being a boring pve grind v a fun multi player game and please activate this event like the test event and like you already have done on Atlantic. 
#104
Aragorn said:
Seth said:
Shard bound could drive the price up, not down. This is because of limited supply per shard, and only 30 days to get the drops which have very slow drop rate. 
On my shard i can’t find one single powerscroll for sell on vendor search as i believe every single powerscroll is tunnelled to Alt. I actually have difficulty in finding taming and swordsmanship lvl 2 mastery let alone lvl 3. If the ssi epaulettes and 50% spell book are not shard bound i’m sure they will all go to Alt as well. So which one is better, higher price or no item for sell at all? I honestly don’t know. 
Well given that the masteries are SHARD BOUND it kinda shoots that argument to hell doesn't it?  Try find a shard bound mastery on origin or oceania, same deal, there are NONE.  Small shards people get their 'stuff' use it and do not ever bother to sell it again due to lack of players and buyers. At least if masteries could be traded to atlantic there would always be some available for purchase and trade as much stuff flows back from atlantic to small shards as goes there.  

This event I will get what I want and not bother getting any more as I cannot trade them to atlantic.  Supply will be less than half  of what it would be so good luck trying to find any of these shard bound items in about 4-5 mths, there will be NONE available on small shards.  Especially given the drop rate and cost of the items.  Seriously 250 drops for a spellbook?   At on avg around maybe 5 drops per hour you only need to work for 50 hours to get one lmao.  Glad I don't need one.  And yes there will be the person that is instantly gonna chime in with I can get 10 per hour, but as I said average. 

When they introduced transfer shields i said at the time this was gonna kill the economies on small shards and got shouted down.   Mainly from those players who were availing themselves of free transfers.   It didn't take long to do it either.  This (transer shields) forced a lot of us from small shards to have to set up vendors on Atlantic just to be able to compete, now they wanna start stuffing us around by making the few items we COULD sell shard bound. 


#105
Maria, FYI, the reward gump hasn't shown the stats for me in years, just the pic and the name.

As far as turning on the event in Felucca on all shards, yes!  Please turn this on in Felucca on all shards. Even the lower populated shards are crowded.

I may have missed it and I've been looking but has an end date for the event been announced? I see the NPC at the entrance has a turn in date of November 15, 2020 but I'm assuming the event itself ends prior to that.
#106
@AmberWitch Do you have tool tips turned off?  (Paper doll > options> pop up help - question mark tab, 2nd on the left in the options menu)
As far as I'm aware the event finishes on the date shown in the NPC's menu.
#107
I'm trying to figure out how toi use this with my Necro. Any advices?

Umbria’s Grimoire (250)
  • Blessed
  • Undead Slayer
  • Defence Chance Increase 10%
  • Spell Damage Increase 30%
  • Faster Cast Recovery 2
  • Lower Mana Cost 5%
  • 17 spells
  • Shard Bound
#108
Mariah said:
@ AmberWitch Do you have tool tips turned off?  (Paper doll > options> pop up help - question mark tab, 2nd on the left in the options menu)
As far as I'm aware the event finishes on the date shown in the NPC's menu.
*turns red*
Of course I don't have it turned off!
*looks around to see if anyone is watching and turns it back on*.
Thank you ❤️

#109
Aayla said:
I'm trying to figure out how toi use this with my Necro. Any advices?

Umbria’s Grimoire (250)
  • Blessed
  • Undead Slayer
  • Defence Chance Increase 10%
  • Spell Damage Increase 30%
  • Faster Cast Recovery 2
  • Lower Mana Cost 5%
  • 17 spells
  • Shard Bound
My advice would be to use those 250 turn in points towards the robes/cloaks/boots etc because that's essentially a shard bound invasion drop from the summer. You can likely find them with 25% SDI + (most of the same other mods) for a decent price (where as ppl on ATL are paying 2-3m PER drop so the book would be 500-750m opportunity cost). Spellbooks or necro book won't matter when you are casting spells as long as it's equipped. 
#110
Aayla said:
I'm trying to figure out how toi use this with my Necro. Any advices?

Umbria’s Grimoire (250)
  • Blessed
  • Undead Slayer
  • Defence Chance Increase 10%
  • Spell Damage Increase 30%
  • Faster Cast Recovery 2
  • Lower Mana Cost 5%
  • 17 spells
  • Shard Bound
I think this is another way to get the invasion slayer books.  The undead version is available now. 
The books have Identical stats.  Ill sell you a 30 undead for 200 points.  🙂  Or give you a 27.

@mervyn can verify, but I don't think necro spells get a damage increase from a book in your hand.



#111
spell damage increase works for necro spells yeah, you can hold a mysticism book with spell damage and it still works for necro, spell damage increase is spell damage increase.

However slayer does not work for necro spells.
#112
Thanks  I new something was different with necro, may as well use the 50 book if you just using for necro spells.

I have a feeling that the item should be a Slayer 30% Mage book with 64 spells.
#113
spell damage increase will work for all magic schools, regardless of the book type.
#114
Mervyn said:
spell damage increase will work for all magic schools, regardless of the book type.
Right but it is a copy of max stats slayer books from the invasion. I have not seen one but it says it has 17 spells, so you would assume it is a necro book. And since necro gives no advantage to slayer, A pure necro would use a book with higher SDI if that's the idea.  It will make players confused as to how to use it on their necro, as the original question was.
#115
Pawain said:
Mervyn said:
spell damage increase will work for all magic schools, regardless of the book type.
Right but it is a copy of max stats slayer books from the invasion. I have not seen one but it says it has 17 spells, so you would assume it is a necro book. And since necro gives no advantage to slayer, A pure necro would use a book with higher SDI if that's the idea.  It will make players confused as to how to use it on their necro, as the original question was.
@Pawain so it's just reskinned then? Why should spellbooks get all the love? They did some slayers with corguls Necro book and fallen mystics book mystic book. Does it matter which type of book it is exactly? Or can a slayer Necro book work for margery spells? I think the books could be interchangeable. And that it's a good thing to have it reskinned. 
#116
RockStaR said:
Pawain said:
Mervyn said:
spell damage increase will work for all magic schools, regardless of the book type.
Right but it is a copy of max stats slayer books from the invasion. I have not seen one but it says it has 17 spells, so you would assume it is a necro book. And since necro gives no advantage to slayer, A pure necro would use a book with higher SDI if that's the idea.  It will make players confused as to how to use it on their necro, as the original question was.
@ Pawain so it's just reskinned then? Why should spellbooks get all the love? They did some slayers with corguls Necro book and fallen mystics book mystic book. Does it matter which type of book it is exactly? Or can a slayer Necro book work for margery spells? I think the books could be interchangeable. And that it's a good thing to have it reskinned. 
Ya but why not fill it with mage scrolls since necro does not get benefit from slayer. You have to carry a full mage book in your pack with it.  The original question that brought this up was,  How do I use this book with my Necro?

What books from corgul are slayers? I see none in my container of 30. Fallen Mystic book has 10 SDI...
#117
Pawain said:
RockStaR said:
Pawain said:
Mervyn said:
spell damage increase will work for all magic schools, regardless of the book type.
Right but it is a copy of max stats slayer books from the invasion. I have not seen one but it says it has 17 spells, so you would assume it is a necro book. And since necro gives no advantage to slayer, A pure necro would use a book with higher SDI if that's the idea.  It will make players confused as to how to use it on their necro, as the original question was.
@ Pawain so it's just reskinned then? Why should spellbooks get all the love? They did some slayers with corguls Necro book and fallen mystics book mystic book. Does it matter which type of book it is exactly? Or can a slayer Necro book work for margery spells? I think the books could be interchangeable. And that it's a good thing to have it reskinned. 
Ya but why not fill it with mage scrolls since necro does not get benefit from slayer. You have to carry a full mage book in your pack with it.  The original question that brought this up was,  How do I use this book with my Necro?

What books from corgul are slayers? I see none in my container of 30.
Maybe corgul book ain't slayer. Got confused with fallen mystics spellbook I think or something like that. Was a mystic book with fey slayer? But they for a Necro book. You already carry multiple books anyway, or most people do. Sw mage, sw mage tamer, Necro mage tamer, mystic mage, etc. Maybe they should just make a 1 size fits all book lol. But if the functionality works the same but just has the Necro book graphic, what's wrong with it?
#118
Fine label the spell book a necro book so players will think the slayer will benefit their necro spells. 

How could that confuse anyone?  It is a copy of a max slayer book from the invasions.  Ill bet each Treasures of.. in the future will get one that matches the Mobs inside.
#119
Pawain said:
Fine label the spell book a necro book so players will think the slayer will benefit their necro spells. 

How could that confuse anyone?  It is a copy of a max slayer book from the invasions.  Ill bet each Treasures of.. in the future will get one that matches the Mobs inside.
That would be kinda cool. I wish the sdi 50 book was a Necro skinned book actually. Does slayer books work for mystic spells also? 
#120
@mervyn would have to verify that it does, But I think slayer just does not benefit Necro.

I should try the eodon books on my Mystic after the events are over.
#121
Slayer property works for Magery & mysticism, (I'm guessing for chivalry holy fist too), slayer properties do not work for necromancy and spellweaving. 
#122
Slayer properties work for direct damage spells only.
Necromancy has, to the best of my knowledge, only one direct damage spell, pain spike. I have not, personally, tested whether a slayer book works with this spell.
Spellweaving does not have any direct damage spells

#123
It would be great to see this event go to Fel in other shards.
#124
Mariah said:
Slayer properties work for direct damage spells only.
Necromancy has, to the best of my knowledge, only one direct damage spell, pain spike. I have not, personally, tested whether a slayer book works with this spell.
Spellweaving does not have any direct damage spells

WoD isn't direct damage?
#125
Mariah said:
Slayer properties work for direct damage spells only.
Necromancy has, to the best of my knowledge, only one direct damage spell, pain spike. I have not, personally, tested whether a slayer book works with this spell.
Spellweaving does not have any direct damage spells

Aren't also Corpse skin, Mind Rot, Poison Strike and Strangle also direct damage spells ?

Well, maybe not Corpse Skin and Mind Rot as they "technically" do not do direct damage but prepare to more damage in the case of Corpse Skin or to consume more Mana in the case of Mind Rot but Poison Strike and Strangle, don't they do some poison damage to the target ?
#126
Come on popps... stop bringing threads down a rabbit hole. You literally just answered half of your own question in your own post instead of just hitting the delete button. 

Poison strike is an area spell (aka not direct damage) and strangle is like the poison spell for magery where it does the damage over time (ie slayers don't work for poison damage do they?). So to answer your question fully and completely, no none of what you listed is direct damage.

Side note - Neither is vengeful spirit. That's a summon that does direct damage. Just in case you were going to bring that up.
#127
keven2002 said:
Mariah said:
Slayer properties work for direct damage spells only.
Necromancy has, to the best of my knowledge, only one direct damage spell, pain spike. I have not, personally, tested whether a slayer book works with this spell.
Spellweaving does not have any direct damage spells

WoD isn't direct damage?
It is, and I know it is affected by sdi, I'm uncertain if it gets a bonus from slayers. I can find no reference in publish notes and have not, as yet, tested it myself. However the entry on UOGuide says:
Slayer spellbooks do not enhance damage caused by Word of Death

#128
Slayer books do not effect WoD. I get more damage holding a 50 sdi book.
#129
Mariah,

you’re getting your terminology mixed up, what you’re trying to say is. Slayers work only for “targeted” spells
“direct damage” is a type of damage that is not subject to any elemental damage.

I meant to send you a message to correct the UOwiki page. I think i caused some confusion on this, i think i wrote the sentence on the wiki about direct damage way back when, because someone on the team was asking me about what spells are slayer vulnerable, and i used the wording "direct damage" because i was trying to say, basically anything that isn't a field or poison or summon, but actually the devs use the term "direct damage" to describe something else.

Slayers work for ALL targeted magery and mysticism spells that cause damage (with the exception of poison,& field spells,)

mindblast is not affected by slayer as it’s a bit of an exception, damage is based off of intelligence.
#131
So what’s the purpose of a SDI necromancer spellbook.

Maybe a Necro rework in the box. Ok I’m dreaming hehe
#132
Much like Juo’nar’s Grimoire, the book school choice is purely aesthetic. 
#134
My mage gets the slayer advantage from both kinds of books.  Most mystic books do not have the slayer quality.  Have not use the fey slayer that increases mysticism by 10 points so can’t comment on that ne.
#136
Thank you. I will edit the page.
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