How do we get Skeleton Keys?

I have done several hundred chests and got 2 only 10packs of Skeleton Keys.  Are we supposed to go back to the lockpicks or what?

Assassin maps.

yesterday I got a master skeleton key from an Assassin Supply map in Malas
I haven't seen the plain ones yet 

Parnoc said:

I have done several hundred chests and got 2 only 10packs of Skeleton Keys.  Are we supposed to go back to the lockpicks or what?

You don't. It's nerfed on purpose.

Sad how it was stated over and over during development, still @Kyronix choose to roll this huge nerf out. I guess just tagging Kyronix will get my post removed though when @Mariah wakes up.

Yeah I don';t post much anymore, saves the mods the effort of pulling my posts

Skeleton keys are found in assassin supply chests on all facets. They are more rare than they used to be, so I'm keeping mine for the higher end maps and using some of the 300+ lockpicks I got from Khaldun boxes for the lower ones.
Maybe they should be more rare, more 'special'. They were so common, after all, that people asked for a way to combine them to reduce the storage they took up. 

What is worse, in my opinion, is that the "Master" Skeleton Keys are now pretty much useless, and DON'T stack! 🙁

are they different from the skeleton keys you get for turning in trade orders to the fence? I still get a bunch of those

Reywind said:

are they different from the skeleton keys you get for turning in trade orders to the fence? I still get a bunch of those

The "master" one are a different color, and have one use. They were AWESOME on the "old" level 7 chests, as they were guaranteed to unlock the chest 1st try. No items went *poof*. I have what WAS probably 100-150M gold worth of them, that are now just, pretty much,taking up lockdown space. 🙁

the old level 7 is now Trove - and trove maps are a lot more common than the 7s used to be. If you've got a master key, dig a trove map and use it.

I admit though, I never think of the stuff I dig up in terms of how much gold it's worth, just is it useful to me? and if not, do I know someone who would find it useful. I give away far more stuff than I ever sell. 

Petra_Fyde said:

the old level 7 is now Trove - and trove maps are a lot more common than the 7s used to be. If you've got a master key, dig a trove map and use it.

I admit though, I never think of the stuff I dig up in terms of how much gold it's worth, just is it useful to me? and if not, do I know someone who would find it useful. I give away far more stuff than I ever sell. 

My point was, and is, that a semi/fairly expensive (additional) item has been made useless by the Treasure Map ner.., err, "upgrade/revamp". Also, why did my comment make you feel you had to mention that you "give away far more stuff than you ever sell"? So sure how that is pertinant to the discussion. 

CovenantX said:

KHAN said:

Reywind said:

are they different from the skeleton keys you get for turning in trade orders to the fence? I still get a bunch of those

The "master" one are a different color, and have one use. They were AWESOME on the "old" level 7 chests, as they were guaranteed to unlock the chest 1st try. No items went *poof*. I have what WAS probably 100-150M gold worth of them, that are now just, pretty much,taking up lockdown space. 🙁

   Yea, the "Master Skeleton Key" is basically useless right now, perhaps they should allow that key to unlock the chest & remove the trap at the same time with 100% success chance. that would justify the additional pack space/lockdowns they might be taking up.

This is an EXCELLENT idea! @Kyronix

Slim the Fence gives quite a few.

Apologies, I guess the comment that sparked that thought was this one.

 I have what WAS probably 100-150M gold worth of them, that are now just, pretty much,taking up lockdown space. 🙁

Parnoc said:

So we just go back to using lockpicks and live with one stone weight per lockpick that breaks easily?

I have done about 100 tmaps since this publish has gone live with the same 5 lockpicks. 
With GM lockpicking, none of them have broken.

Petra_Fyde said:

Apologies, I guess the comment that sparked that thought was this one.

 I have what WAS probably 100-150M gold worth of them, that are now just, pretty much,taking up lockdown space. 🙁

Huh? LOL OK, I guess.

Cinderella said:

Parnoc said:

So we just go back to using lockpicks and live with one stone weight per lockpick that breaks easily?

I have done about 100 tmaps since this publish has gone live with the same 5 lockpicks. 
With GM lockpicking, none of them have broken.

The higher the level map, the more likely the chance they WILL break. On just level 1's and 2's probably not. I have done a lot of level 4 and 5 maps, and HAVE broken lockpicks

KHAN said:

Cinderella said:

Parnoc said:

So we just go back to using lockpicks and live with one stone weight per lockpick that breaks easily?

I have done about 100 tmaps since this publish has gone live with the same 5 lockpicks. 
With GM lockpicking, none of them have broken.

The higher the level map, the more likely the chance they WILL break. On just level 1's and 2's probably not. I have done a lot of level 4 and 5 maps, and HAVE broken lockpicks

I never did the higher level maps before, just the level 1-3...
And I usually had one break after just doing 5 chests
I would always start the day with 20 lockpicks and end up with 6-10 when i'd stop.

KHAN said:

Cinderella said:

Parnoc said:

So we just go back to using lockpicks and live with one stone weight per lockpick that breaks easily?

I have done about 100 tmaps since this publish has gone live with the same 5 lockpicks. 
With GM lockpicking, none of them have broken.

The higher the level map, the more likely the chance they WILL break. On just level 1's and 2's probably not. I have done a lot of level 4 and 5 maps, and HAVE broken lockpicks

yesterday I did about 50 lvl 2s (trying for that +5 glasses)
I got 4 master skeleton key and 1 skeleton key
its weird that I'm getting more masters than the plain

Cinderlla that means you were 40 Skeleton Keys short and the ratio as far as I can tell is the same on all level chests.      How about upping the ratio of skeleton keys please @Kyronix????

As we do more and more chests it's increasingly important to have the skeleton keys, lockpicks are a pain in the butt.  Suggestion:  Just get rid of the Master Skeleton keys and make that many more drops of regular skeleton keys.  Please @Kyronix ???  Oh and the new ones don't stack, could you please make them stackable?  🙁 🙂

Cinderella said:

yesterday I did about 50 lvl 2s (trying for that +5 glasses)
I got 4 master skeleton key and 1 skeleton key
its weird that I'm getting more masters than the plain

And before the 'new' changes you would of got about 6 in ten ingenious maps, so would of had at least 25 if not more with 50 maps.  Not to mention all the other stuff you would of got.  But it seems we are not allowed to compare any more if it is not positive feedback.

MissE said:

Cinderella said:

yesterday I did about 50 lvl 2s (trying for that +5 glasses)
I got 4 master skeleton key and 1 skeleton key
its weird that I'm getting more masters than the plain

And before the 'new' changes you would of got about 6 in ten ingenious maps, so would of had at least 25 if not more with 50 maps.  Not to mention all the other stuff you would of got.  But it seems we are not allowed to compare any more if it is not positive feedback.

But why were skeletons keys specifically nerfed in t-maps? Were they overpowered in any way? Or just a side-effect that nobody at Broadsword thought of?

after I posted that, the next day, I got 5 regular & one master...

JollyJade said:

But why were skeletons keys specifically nerfed in t-maps? Were they overpowered in any way? Or just a side-effect that nobody at Broadsword thought of?

its probably because we got so many before...


at meet & greets, I saw so many people complain before about they threw away the lower level maps... so this revamp was to get people to do all levels of the map.

i saw complaints about the amount of essences you could get from the tmaps. 

but as for the skeleton keys...
I know my treasure hunter threw away lot of them for the points. 
I always kept one in my backpack and would throw it away when it got down to one.
they did make it to where you could add them together.
but now with items no longer being destroyed, do we really need them?

Master keys are still handy to have for trove maps, if you want to avoid a grubber.
One thing I haven't mentioned is my treasure hunter also carries an insured smuggler's tool box. If, by any remote chance, any treasure hunter on Europa wants one, I have several, I will give you one - I did put them on a vendor once (5k), but they don't sell.

I wouldn't say they're scarce.

These are from recent casual pace treasure hunting; looking for my +5 glasses. Still haven't found those. +4 is the best I've come up with so far. But I'm not hurting for skeleton keys. And as has already been said, it's sort of a non issue isn't it? Considering we don't lose items when failing locking picking. Break lockpicks and kill the grubbers. Or do a few Assassin chests and save the skeleton keys for your higher level chests.