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sexist armor

Started by DJAd · 2018-06-22 · 37 posts · General Discussions
#0
So the name "barracoon the piper" was changed as it could be considered racist. How about all the sexist armor types that are available?

I think it is unfair that some armor is "females only" and even for certain races only such as "elves only" and "gargoyles only".

How about anyone can wear anything, or at least have the ability to altar it to whatever race or gender they want?
#1
As of now, it's better to play a female character vs. a male. The succubus and Semidar both do less damage to females, and females have more armor options available. Male characters only have armor and boss restrictions. Maybe make succubi and semidar have a chance of spawning as incubi, and an incubus king? Or maybe have the damage apply equally to male and female characters. And some option for tailors to alter items between male/female, or just remove the female only restrictions altogether.
#2
My wife has a skirt you can borrow if you are feeling left out in RL. DJ.

Also the things near the Cus will only remove clothes from males.  They used that template with the fairy in Sorc Dungeon.  Was annoying.
#3
Pawain said:
My wife has a skirt you can borrow if you are feeling left out in RL. DJ.

Also the things near the Cus will only remove clothes from males.  They used that template with the fairy in Sorc Dungeon.  Was annoying.
Real life is not the problem. I can wear whatever I like. I am a bit shy so just dress up in womans clothes behind closed doors for the moment, at least until I get more confident to go out in it.

In game however I would love to rock my tiger pelt bustier but I cannot!
#4
I got it, how about if you get knight of all virtues you get a reward. A “virtue signal” like a fireworks wand that you can set off at meet and greets to make sure your inane question about cooking or dyes gets answered so as to avoid all the real questions about EC movement speed. 
#5
Pawain said:
My wife has a skirt you can borrow if you are feeling left out in RL. DJ.
This type of shaming and online bullying is probably why nobody has said anything about it yet. We're attempting to address an imbalance in the game, please stay on topic and don't use personal attacks.
#6
Mervyn said:
I got it, how about if you get knight of all virtues you get a reward. A “virtue signal” like a fireworks wand that you can set off at meet and greets to make sure your inane question about cooking or dyes gets answered so as to avoid all the real questions about EC movement speed. 
We're attempting to address an imbalance in the game, please stay on topic and don't use personal attacks.
#7
Ya Mervyn you got punked

DJ found the humor in it.  But they do make a male version of the tiger pelt chest.  And you can wear the tiger skirts if you please.

I'm sorry, I think females should be allowed to dress their gender if they choose. Without males being able to wear some items.

I see no imbalance in the game.
#8
Pawain said:
My wife has a skirt you can borrow if you are feeling left out in RL. DJ.

Also the things near the Cus will only remove clothes from males.  They used that template with the fairy in Sorc Dungeon.  Was annoying.


Actually the satyr's in the twisted weald disrobe female characters so it is not just the males that get disrobed, although the dryads disrobe you. Disrobing is an equal opportunity thing!
#9
Taking my telescope to twisted weald. Thanks
#10
Elf privilege must end! It is discriminatory that only Elves can ride Cus.
#11
Seriously the only imbalance is with gargoyles. I could settle for the altering Idea the OP has.
#12
Gender change tokens are useable by everyone. 
#13
Sliss said:
Elf privilege must end! It is discriminatory that only Elves can ride Cus.
You can ride em, get some pads of the Cu 🙂
#14
And the fact that only Gargoyles can throw Boomerangs.......is that a slight aimed at Aboriginies?? saying they are somehow "not human"???
Not to mention the poor Ninja's that now have a Throwing star envy complex.....poor ninjas and their little stars....

And the mentally challenged Bakers of Sosaria who can somehow make French bread (even though France is not in Sosaria) but cannot manage a simple Cinnamon roll???

And lets not mention the poor Phoenix that dare not show itself in public anymore for fear of ridicule....
#15
Reywind said:
As of now, it's better to play a female character vs. a male. The succubus and Semidar both do less damage to females, and females have more armor options available.
The female unique tame/mount, the Unicorn, is also superior to the male unique tame/mount, the Ki-Rin. I remember when Male Mages were able to Polymorph into a Female, and then wear female armor, even after the Polymorph wore off. It was pretty funny.
Hell, i remember when Polymorph had different categories, and Males were classified as "Animals", while Females were classified as "Monsters".
#16
Maybe males should inherently have more strength to balance things. 
#17
Mervyn said:
Maybe males should inherently have more strength to balance things. 

That's incredibly sexist don't ya think?
That's like saying Women should have more Intelligence and stamina than men? 
#18
Your idea of sexist is different to mine. 
#19
No Trolling - Do not post comments which have the sole purpose of causing an argument. You may express your opinion on a topic however, abuse to anyone who doesn't have the same opinion as you will not be tolerated.

if you wish to continue this discussion on in game inequities, feel free to do so. do not make it personal.
#20
I think some people get confused with equality. 1/3 is equal to 4/12 so they don’t need to be the same to be equal.
#21
It baffles me that this thread is even a thing.
#22
Slayvite said:
Mervyn said:
Maybe males should inherently have more strength to balance things. 

That's incredibly sexist don't ya think?
That's like saying Women should have more Intelligence and stamina than men? 
Who has to say it when we all know it is true, just go ask your wife.
#23
The main point of this thread was just to see what the possibly of getting the certain armour restrictions moved would be.

They could even sell some kind of tool on the store to convert items. For example to turn some hide arms into studded/bone arms and remove the "Elves only" property. Leaf leggings into leather leggings, etc. etc.

While kind of on the subject how about a store item that would let players choose to change the look of an item into something else as long as it uses the same paperdoll slot.

Lets say you get an uber wizard hat but you hate the wizard hat look. You could convert this item into another head slot item (with the same base material) using some item purchased from the store. Its a 100% vanity item and I'm sure many people would buy it. I would love to be able to change the look of a Hawkwind robe into something like epaulettes.
#24
I do wish the "elves only" property was removed. I don't really see the point of it when there is no human only armor.
#25
Human aren't drastically different body-wise to elves, in fact most of the difference is on their heads. Pointy ears and weird hair like twisty spaghetti strands! Luckily in the EC they have normal looking hair.
#26
lmao, they changed his name? i figured that would never happen.

i wear a long skirt on every character, all male. fight me.

the elf only / female only stuff can be a bit frustrating if you get a killer piece that you cant use, but i dont really know that its worth dev time to address.
#27
Came back to the game to catch up on some things. Annnnnnnnnd nothing has changed in the forums. 
#28
Male characters can wear Wedding Veils. Baby steps ;)
#29
Pawain said:

I see no imbalance in the game.
If I were a male character, trying to piece together a new suit of armor that just needed that one, final piece that tied everything together - and that piece dropped as a bustier? Or leather shorts? I still don't have my suit. If I were a female character, this wouldn't be an issue, as females can also wear male clothing. Please explain how you do not see an imbalance. Your personal opinion on what males and females should and should not be allowed to wear is irrelevant.
#30
Mervyn said:
Gender change tokens are useable by everyone. 
I shouldn't have to pay additional money, and then play as a character I have no desire playing as, just to have all armor options and bosses available to me.
#31
Reywind said:
Pawain said:

I see no imbalance in the game.
If I were a male character, trying to piece together a new suit of armor that just needed that one, final piece that tied everything together - and that piece dropped as a bustier? Or leather shorts? I still don't have my suit. If I were a female character, this wouldn't be an issue, as females can also wear male clothing. Please explain how you do not see an imbalance. Your personal opinion on what males and females should and should not be allowed to wear is irrelevant.

Hide does not give the LMC bonus like studded.  Theres a bazillion Mage chests out there.
#32
Pawain said:

Hide does not give the LMC bonus like studded.  Theres a bazillion Mage chests out there.
What does this have to do with anything?
#33
Reywind said:
Pawain said:

Hide does not give the LMC bonus like studded.  Theres a bazillion Mage chests out there.
What does this have to do with anything?

Showing you there is no imbalance with that piece.  Now if it were a studded skirt, you may have a point.

#34
I don't even know what you're talking about, are you just picking apart my example while avoiding my main point? Can you please stay on topic and explain why you think female characters having more armor options and more monsters available for them to fight is not an imbalance?
#35
Been a male all my UO life.  I can fight anything. And males can wear Turtle chests.   What imbalance?  Like I said That type armor does not have an advantage over other types.  Maybe you need to know more about the game mechanics.  You would see I am completely on topic.  And the Mods determine that. Not you.
#36
Please re-read my original post to see what imbalance I'm talking about. I'm not really sure why you don't understand my point, I've made it pretty clear. Or are you just concern trolling? I never said anything about turtle armor so I'm not really sure where you're getting that from.

Female characters can wear both male and female armor, but male characters cannot wear both male and female armor. Therefore, female characters have more armor options available to them. Also, there are monsters which have increased difficulty for male characters, but not female characters. There are no monsters in the game that have increased difficulty for female characters, and not male characters. Your personal opinions and experiences are not evidence or proof that these imbalances do not exist.
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