The next logical step in the war on 3rd party programs

why just remove the need for night sight not sure what you mean by spell either

Skett said:

why just remove the need for night sight not sure what you mean by spell either

They mean night sight potion, night sight spell , and night sight property. 

aye ok ? not sure how thats game breaking tho ? I hate having to have nights on an items lol on a few of my chars

Couldn’t  disagree more. How about give us a quality working client that has everything we need and not anything less.

Playboy_1 said:

Couldn’t  disagree more. How about give us a quality working client that has everything we need and not anything less.

Brand new account today, look at that.

Ive read there are free shards that still accept the O client.  Maybe try there.

You’re a nerd, I’ve played UO since I was like 10. Don’t need to be on these dead forums. But I heard this is where to talk about the current locked 12.5 fps. 

Playboy_1 said:

You’re a nerd, I’ve played UO since I was like 10. Don’t need to be on these dead forums. But I heard this is where to talk about the current locked 12.5 fps. 

Still a child then.  Why is a young person bragging about playing with 50 to 80 yr olds in a game?

We can teach you how to change a tire tho.

Playboy_1 said:

You’re a nerd, I’ve played UO since I was like 10. Don’t need to be on these dead forums. But I heard this is where to talk about the current locked 12.5 fps. 

So you’re what, 20?  30 Maybe?

still relying on a illegal client to boot.

try playing the game it’s way more fun bud.

Oreogl said:

Playboy_1 said:

You’re a nerd, I’ve played UO since I was like 10. Don’t need to be on these dead forums. But I heard this is where to talk about the current locked 12.5 fps. 

So you’re what, 20?  30 Maybe?

still relying on a illegal client to boot.

try playing the game it’s way more fun bud.

Agreed, man what pvp was before Aos came out was great. The RP wars on Great Lakes was some of the best memories I have in any game not just UO. 

The look on the face of a mage when they saw you take out the axe was priceless lol. Hot keyed pots,bandages,weapon swap and that was the most automation you got back then. 

Breaks my heart pvp became Bots on a champ spawn patrol, find someone trying thier luck on a spawn call in your guild all show up kill em, block the exits with paralyze field, laugh, say something like "Wow that guy was terrible" finish spawn and sale the power scrolls on your luna vendor for way too much. 

Minion552 said:

Breaks my heart pvp became Bots on a champ spawn patrol, find someone trying thier luck on a spawn call in your guild all show up kill em, block the exits with paralyze field, laugh, say something like "Wow that guy was terrible" finish spawn and sale the power scrolls on your luna vendor for way too much. 

Be a terrorist 

I'd much rather have 30 legit users coming at me than 1-3 red cheaters..

Make a build to survive and annoy them.. my go to was the paladin.. but vs 30 i'd use a ninja.. slowly farm the spawn and when they shows up.. do not die and mess with them like a thorn in their shoes..

Soon enough they will stop showing up on your spawn.. cuz it's not worth the effort plus they can avoid the public humiliation from a slippery worms.


Most of them ain't coming for the loot.. they came for the glorious glory of 30v1; being the king of the hill.. break that illusion with guerilla technic if u get outpower.. They'll stop soon enough and respect you.


When it's only 1-3 superman like cheaters.. it's another story. Good luck staying alive or killing them (still possible but GL)
and it's way more effective and easier to terrorize 30 legit zergy zerg woobies over 3 tryhard nab.

Minion552 said:

Oreogl said:

Playboy_1 said:

You’re a nerd, I’ve played UO since I was like 10. Don’t need to be on these dead forums. But I heard this is where to talk about the current locked 12.5 fps. 

So you’re what, 20?  30 Maybe?

still relying on a illegal client to boot.

try playing the game it’s way more fun bud.

Agreed, man what pvp was before Aos came out was great. The RP wars on Great Lakes was some of the best memories I have in any game not just UO. 

The look on the face of a mage when they saw you take out the axe was priceless lol. Hot keyed pots,bandages,weapon swap and that was the most automation you got back then. 

Breaks my heart pvp became Bots on a champ spawn patrol, find someone trying thier luck on a spawn call in your guild all show up kill em, block the exits with paralyze field, laugh, say something like "Wow that guy was terrible" finish spawn and sale the power scrolls on your luna vendor for way too much. 

I miss a lot of it.

Scripts ruined it for me.  I couldn’t compete anymore and just grew out of it.

the zergs still make me laugh as they’re yelling “ nice die!” In chat lol. 

Well I’m sorry all the old folks like playing on 12.5 fps…maybe yall should still use outhouses, since you wana be stuck in the past…lol. I’m currently, web client…that has less features than the legal UO assist client lol. If you’re going to get rid of a client….get rid of the other 10 illegal ones too. Also, maybe make sure the web client is ready? Not in some alpha stage.

Playboy_1 said:

Well I’m sorry all the old folks like playing on 12.5 fps…

I hope u realise that argument (wich seems to be the only one u got) gonna sink soon enough.. BS working on FPS and resizable screen for CC.

In my opinion, BS needed to act before the web client is fully develop (wich might take some time; with a small team of volunteer) cuz y'all were ruining the MAIN content of UO.. those theme gated event.

Good Job Broadsword.

PS: get back on UOA; instead of crying like a cheater.

Their new web client is missing functions UOA uses. Arm/re arm. Record macros. Their target cycle is doo doo. Just upgrade regular classic client and let me use UOA with it. Pretty simple. 

Playboy_1 said:

Their new web client is missing functions UOA uses. Arm/re arm. Record macros. Their target cycle is doo doo. Just upgrade regular classic client and let me use UOA with it. Pretty simple. 

I feel sorry for players that have to use assists and are lost without them.  So, lost they have to find something else to do.  So sad to be u. 

Ok I'm over my sadness 4 U.

UO assist is a legal
program…makes PvP little easier. PvP way harder than that trammy stuff you do.. “all kill,” and healing pets

Playboy_1 said:

UO assist is a legal
program…makes PvP little easier. PvP way harder than that trammy stuff you do.. “all kill,” and healing pets

This is legitimate.  Before updates to the CC you could actually set macros for potions, item uses like trapped box or apple, and the auto dress function etc.

i still log in through UOA though at this point it’s out of years of habit.

Playboy_1 said:

Their new web client is missing functions UOA uses. Arm/re arm. Record macros. Their target cycle is doo doo. Just upgrade regular classic client and let me use UOA with it. Pretty simple. 

Soon.. this is my understand we gonna have better FPS with resizable screen on CC wich gonna work with UOA.

Now the question is how outdated is UOA?
I have good memories from it.

No; we have a web browser that doesn’t work with exilag…doesn’t work with UOA…. Hitting some buttons triggers browser things…like escape which I use to cancel a macro…closes my full screen mode: I beleive they should allow the desktop UO to have resizable screen/ higher FPS, and let UOA work with it.

Or basic razor like free servers do, then client lock that. 

Playboy_1 said:

No; we have a web browser that doesn’t work with exilag…doesn’t work with UOA…. Hitting some buttons triggers browser things…like escape which I use to cancel a macro…closes my full screen mode: I beleive they should allow the desktop UO to have resizable screen/ higher FPS, and let UOA work with it.

Hi Cookie,

Have you tried running the client as an app? https://forum.uo.com/discussion/15077/how-to-turn-the-web-client-into-a-desktop-app-in-two-seconds#latest

I’m not cookie , just another player, who’s trying to keep people from quitting. You’ll see me in discord telling players to give CUO a chance…they just need to add some vital things to keep people interested; and a way to use exilag, or map with it. 

Playboy_1 said:

UO assist is a legal
program…makes PvP little easier. PvP way harder than that trammy stuff you do.. “all kill,” and healing pets

its comments like this that really dont help. You have a superiority complex because you Pvp that makes you think you are better than everyone else, or people that dont?

If it was as simple as all kill then fair enough but it isnt, so dont display such ignorance of other players

Self entitlement and laziness is what seems to abound with players that use(d) the cheat client.

It seems to me this client basically did practically everything for you, you just had to move around a bit.

1 If this happens do this
2 If this happens do this
3 If this happens or this happens then do this and this
4 If BS block my client cry and make excuses

Thats about it ^^^

You want everything to be equal its now equal, the same as when everyone had the cheat client...so get out there and start fighting each other maybe??? You are all on the same level now you might just have to put some effort into it now...

Playboy_1 said:

I’m not cookie , just another player, who’s trying to keep people from quitting. You’ll see me in discord telling players to give CUO a chance…they just need to add some vital things to keep people interested; and a way to use exilag, or map with it. 

No problem. I must have been confused by your first post before you edited it. Anyway, running the client as a stand-alone app removes it from the browser and may make the experience better for you.

loop said:

Playboy_1 said:

I’m not cookie , just another player, who’s trying to keep people from quitting. You’ll see me in discord telling players to give CUO a chance…they just need to add some vital things to keep people interested; and a way to use exilag, or map with it. 

No problem. I must have been confused by your first post before you edited it. Anyway, running the client as a stand-alone app removes it from the browser and may make the experience better for you.

It does keep ESC from dropping you out of full screen when you set it up to run as an app. 

Fenriswolf said:

Playboy_1 said:

UO assist is a legal
program…makes PvP little easier. PvP way harder than that trammy stuff you do.. “all kill,” and healing pets

its comments like this that really dont help. You have a superiority complex because you Pvp that makes you think you are better than everyone else, or people that dont?

If it was as simple as all kill then fair enough but it isnt, so dont display such ignorance of other players

Self entitlement and laziness is what seems to abound with players that use(d) the cheat client.

It seems to me this client basically did practically everything for you, you just had to move around a bit.

1 If this happens do this
2 If this happens do this
3 If this happens or this happens then do this and this
4 If BS block my client cry and make excuses

Thats about it ^^^

You want everything to be equal its now equal, the same as when everyone had the cheat client...so get out there and start fighting each other maybe??? You are all on the same level now you might just have to put some effort into it now...

Lolol; i pvmed for years , and still do. It’s easy. Sorry, not sorry. All kill, healing pets/players. Very
simple. I’m one of the only pvpers still pvping without O”. I’m pointing out, O” without any of its scripting abilities is better than web UO. Also I do run it as application, but escape exits full screen mode. Now CUO is almost there but not ready yet..so make it so the basic desktop Ultima online has resizable window…and 60fps…. And let me use the LEGAL UO assist with it…and it would be more functional than current web browser. Stop saying I want to cheat; when in litteraly saying let me use UO assist lolol, with higher FPS, because you can’t use UO assist with web browser. You can’t use exilag which is legal, and helps you with ping. That’s why I say you “pvmers” because yall so close minded/uninformed 

loop said:

Playboy_1 said:

I’m not cookie , just another player, who’s trying to keep people from quitting. You’ll see me in discord telling players to give CUO a chance…they just need to add some vital things to keep people interested; and a way to use exilag, or map with it. 

No problem. I must have been confused by your first post before you edited it. Anyway, running the client as a stand-alone app removes it from the browser and may make the experience better for you.

Sorry about that. Yes run as desktop. It’s def. Awesome but missing some key things that BASIC UO client has; with UO assist. Once it gets those, then there will be no kore
complaints. Just saying before removing other clients, maybe have good working ones in place…or make regular UO have higher FPS…and lemme use UO assist 

Playboy_1 said:

Lolol; i pvmed for years , and still do. It’s easy. Sorry, not sorry. All kill, healing pets/players. Very
simple. I’m one of the only pvpers still pvping without O”. I’m pointing out, O” without any of its scripting abilities is better than web UO. Also I do run it as application, but escape exits full screen mode. Now CUO is almost there but not ready yet..so make it so the basic desktop Ultima online has resizable window…and 60fps…. And let me use the LEGAL UO assist with it…and it would be more functional than current web browser. Stop saying I want to cheat; when in litteraly saying let me use UO assist lolol, with higher FPS, because you can’t use UO assist with web browser. You can’t use exilag which is legal, and helps you with ping. That’s why I say you “pvmers” because yall so close minded/uninformed 

i think if you read most of the posts people are just against the illegal client, not helping or revamping pvp. This is where you superiority complex kicks in and you become blind to what people are suggesting and then start throwing your "trammie", "pvmers", "Oh its so easy" comments in to make yourself feel better about it

No one is uninformed, we can all see what the issues are and suggesting things to help that dont involve cheating or ruining the game for everyone else, which is what "O" as doing

You are wanting things that automate things for you. 

If you are now pvping without "O" then you should be happy, as your superiortiy complex now has some foundation...except its only against a bunch of script kiddies who dont know right from left as a few lines of codes did it for them...

If its so easy and just "all kill", show me a video of you soloing an Ilshenar Champ spawn with a pet just saying all kill, and good luck healing it with all the paras. Plus you think "trammies" just go around with pets and dont do anything else? You have a very simplistic view of what happens in UO

You have lost touch with reality, maybe you need a script to get you back into the real world?

Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without O that I recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products

Playboy_1 said:

Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products

again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

"wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?

I will await your superior-based response, littered with generalisations and mild insults against people that dont pvp and/or live Felucca

Fenriswolf said:

Playboy_1 said:

Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products

again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

"wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?

I’ll get in classic client, and let’s have a race , see who gets done spawning first. Let’s do the rat spawn, and time it. You have the superiority issue, blaming your short comings by accusing me of using scripts Lolol. Sure , I’m successful on 12.5 frames, or the classic web browser by hand switching weapons from my backpack: doesn’t meant I like doing it. Even the default Ultima online classic browser, lets you choose between 4 arm macros. You’re too busy crying about scripting to realize that’s my issue. If I wanted to script; I’d find a way. There is litteraly 5 other useable cheats right now; and what I’m doing is saying; what needs done to REGULAR UO; or web client. To make people wana use them: 

Fenriswolf said:

Playboy_1 said:

Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products

again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

"wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?

I will await your superior-based response, littered with generalisations and mild insults against people that dont pvp and/or live Felucca

Also. Let me agree with you. Those idiots botting events need perma banned/ IP banned. 

Playboy_1 said:

Fenriswolf said:

Playboy_1 said:

Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products

again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

"wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?

I’ll get in classic client, and let’s have a race , see who gets done spawning first. Let’s do the rat spawn, and time it. You have the superiority issue, blaming your short comings by accusing me of using scripts Lolol. Sure , I’m successful on 12.5 frames, or the classic web browser by hand switching weapons from my backpack: doesn’t meant I like doing it. Even the default Ultima online classic browser, lets you choose between 4 arm macros. You’re too busy crying about scripting to realize that’s my issue. If I wanted to script; I’d find a way. There is litteraly 5 other useable cheats right now; and what I’m doing is saying; what needs done to REGULAR UO; or web client. To make people wana use them: 

i like it how you choose the rat spawn...ill leave that one there because you also know why

dont think anyone is crying about scripting except that people that can's use them now? A little weird that one

I agree the clients need work, im stuck with the CC because i cant stand the others. 

But in general the point is, Pvp needs work and some love, so i think we just leave it there. Agree to disagree on a lot of things, but thats the general consensus

Fenriswolf said:

Playboy_1 said:

Fenriswolf said:

Playboy_1 said:

Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products

again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

"wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?

I’ll get in classic client, and let’s have a race , see who gets done spawning first. Let’s do the rat spawn, and time it. You have the superiority issue, blaming your short comings by accusing me of using scripts Lolol. Sure , I’m successful on 12.5 frames, or the classic web browser by hand switching weapons from my backpack: doesn’t meant I like doing it. Even the default Ultima online classic browser, lets you choose between 4 arm macros. You’re too busy crying about scripting to realize that’s my issue. If I wanted to script; I’d find a way. There is litteraly 5 other useable cheats right now; and what I’m doing is saying; what needs done to REGULAR UO; or web client. To make people wana use them: 

i like it how you choose the rat spawn...ill leave that one there because you also know why

dont think anyone is crying about scripting except that people that can's use them now? A little weird that one

I agree the clients need work, im stuck with the CC because i cant stand the others. 

But in general the point is, Pvp needs work and some love, so i think we just leave it there. Agree to disagree on a lot of things, but thats the general consensus

At the end of the day we both love the game; and want it to thrive. I just see the people in multiple discords quitting in droves/selling all their possessions/canceling accounts. I don’t want this game to be dead..Especially with this new script free shard coming out, people are going to be more inclined to go to…just trying to save the game 

if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..

Fenriswolf said:

if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..

It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

So you’re right it’s not that hard; but when people has used them for years..feeling like they are
playing a complete new game, then it’s taken away for half finished stuff…they get disheartened/not wana play. Espically when there’s free ones coming out thay include all this (script free) I’m just trying to save the game/keep people playing. 

I used to pvp for the longest time but trammed out due to being too lazy to want to run some of the things the current playerbase believe is necessary. 

With that said, to be fair, there are 100x more scripts that fully automate pvm and tram based activities if you look on any of the old sites. 

My .02 on the pvp vs pvm aspect of things.

Hail Travelers!!!

Freshly off the major win against O..ohhh you a cheater client. I have decided to link up and start a group with fellow/ette anti-cheaters.. BHF! Blue Haired Furries. Do you have what it takes to join me on this pilgrimage to a clean cheat free Ultima Online. If so head on over to BlueSky and Skeet me &BHF!

Playboy_1 said:

Fenriswolf said:

if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..

It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

Main issues are dress/redress hasent been worked on kr finished
cycling targets by notoriety…or smoothe grab bar (which just means it grabs bar easier) 
can’t use exilag….
cant record simple macros (you can with UO assist) so it’s legal. 

Just simple things the base vanilla client has..like if regular basic UO had these upgrades (higher fps) customizable window) I believe  every pvper would be fine with UO assist. 

Most of the pvpers play script free/ free shards and were planning on going to one about to come out, becuz dislike for scripts…but these free shards are client locked; with a good assurance (basic razor) with no script abilities.

its not about the scripts, its about the playability… and just modernization. 

Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

Army said:

Hail Travelers!!!

Freshly off the major win against O..ohhh you a cheater client. I have decided to link up and start a group with fellow/ette anti-cheaters.. BHF! Blue Haired Furries. Do you have what it takes to join me on this pilgrimage to a clean cheat free Ultima Online. If so head on over to BlueSky and Skeet me &BHF!

So I go to Bluesky and join Blue Hair Fur…..

whoa ho ohhhh…waiiiit a minute…you almost had me there…

 😂

The young un thinks we know what a furry is.   That's his generation not ours.  I see why he made a tough user name now.  Compensating for being a furry.

Oreogl said:

Playboy_1 said:

Fenriswolf said:

if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..

It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

Main issues are dress/redress hasent been worked on kr finished
cycling targets by notoriety…or smoothe grab bar (which just means it grabs bar easier) 
can’t use exilag….
cant record simple macros (you can with UO assist) so it’s legal. 

Just simple things the base vanilla client has..like if regular basic UO had these upgrades (higher fps) customizable window) I believe  every pvper would be fine with UO assist. 

Most of the pvpers play script free/ free shards and were planning on going to one about to come out, becuz dislike for scripts…but these free shards are client locked; with a good assurance (basic razor) with no script abilities.

its not about the scripts, its about the playability… and just modernization. 

Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

In short it is definitely about scripts.  You’d be in a minority if it isn’t.

Perhaps you can send some requests to ClassicUO for some of the more simple requests.

Not true; most these pvpers are quitting for script free / free shards. It’s not about the scripts, for 99%. 

Word on the street is O is back in action...

Grimbeard said:

Word on the street is O is back in action...

Why are people saying O? Is it bannable to use the full name?

Playboy_1 said:

Grimbeard said:

Word on the street is O is back in action...

Why are people saying O? Is it bannable to use the full name?

It should be, stop advertising for them!!!  I understand you want to gather other cheaters together, so you want them to know where to meet.

Pawain said:

Playboy_1 said:

Grimbeard said:

Word on the street is O is back in action...

Why are people saying O? Is it bannable to use the full name?

It should be, stop advertising for them!!!  I understand you want to gather other cheaters together, so you want them to know where to meet.

In the Alley behind the Cat's Paw in Britain??

Playboy_1 said:

So you’re right it’s not that hard; but when people has used them for years..feeling like they are
playing a complete new game, then it’s taken away for half finished stuff…they get disheartened/not wana play. Espically when there’s free ones coming out thay include all this (script free) I’m just trying to save the game/keep people playing. 

fair enough we got there in the end, i think i would quit if someone forced me to place the EC!!

Word on the street is O is back in action... and the same username and pawa, already reported to the principal

I'd like to hope the developers have discord accounts and belong to a lot of groups 

Grimbeard said:

I'd like to hope the developers have discord accounts and belong to a lot of groups 

i dont think they do, specially on those channels and why they would?  when they have ALL you snitches ?

Playboy_1 said:

At the end of the day we both love the game; and want it to thrive. I just see the people in multiple discords quitting in droves/selling all their possessions/canceling accounts. I don’t want this game to be dead..Especially with this new script free shard coming out, people are going to be more inclined to go to…just trying to save the game 

 😂 

The guy behave like he's Usul!!
When in fact it's iscariot thinking he's Yeshua.

Fenriswolf said:

It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

The problem is on the opposite spectrum.. here for the dev at BS:"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."

Fenriswolf said:

Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..

U'd be surprise.. the difference all serious PvPers were forced to be using it at this point.

But if we'd count how many PvErs vs how many PvPers were using it.. the % was bigger for PvP clearly but the # is superior for PvEr's.. I don't have those numbers but pretty sure it was the case.. just ask to your crafter friends what clients they were using.


PS: I wish y'all realised this cookie alt only asking for exitlag to work on CUO to be able to have an efficient multibox.. (VPN) 2 PC running 8 accounts each.

Playboy_1 said:

Most of the pvpers play script free

 😂 

Ok.. I need to step away.. this is C-R-A-Z-Y


Before I go, Amen to this:

Oreogl said:

Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

In short it is definitely about scripts.  You’d be in a minority if it isn’t.

Perhaps you can send some requests to ClassicUO for some of the more simple requests.

Victim_Of_Siege said:
In the Alley behind the Cat's Paw in Britain??

                                                

King said:

Word on the street is O is back in action... and the same username and pawa, already reported to the principal

Eww don't put me in the same category as him.

But, we are seeing the posters accounts who are using it.

Yeah.. I can vouch what shall not be named is back.. i played last 48 hours.. only one of those bots user/ frame skipper was still playing.. clearly legit..

I just log in game.. 5 minutes later i'm closing the client.. there is scums frame skipping all over the place.. hvn't took the time to look if they were controlled or just unattended bots.. the frame skipping was enough to make me wanna puke.

As I thought..  big L.. we need a ban wave or better management. choice is OURS.
Join me uninstall this steamy doobie and unsub till BS address the problem for real.

PS: pretty sure this is why Cookie alt promoting it on official forum today.. he wants even more person to use it to pressure the dev to not get rid of it and keep killing the game. or how to promote non gaming.

Edit: good thing we hvn't invite our legit friend back.. such a disapointement.. very hypocritical disapointement.. @mesanna still hidding

                  

At this point, there probably should be a ban wave. BS broke the client which should have served as a warning,  if they continue to circumvent measures taken to disable it accounts should be in jeopardy.

We need that Ban World server OR a LEGIT one.. ASAP.. this is pathetic.. false expectation.. bad PR.. y'all look like failure at BS with such result.. meanwhile we still have Cookie promoting illegal third party on official forum.. the failure is on too many level.. we need to start with a solid foundation and look at mesanna... as far as I know she been silent since the announce she did in July.

Time for her walk of shame.. with a second post addressing the 2 failures july and december.. she deal with those cheater like a single mom with multiple kid with different dad does with fearmongering... aka: she's bad at it and it's pointless.

Playboy_1 said:

Oreogl said:

Playboy_1 said:

Fenriswolf said:

if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..

It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

Main issues are dress/redress hasent been worked on kr finished
cycling targets by notoriety…or smoothe grab bar (which just means it grabs bar easier) 
can’t use exilag….
cant record simple macros (you can with UO assist) so it’s legal. 

Just simple things the base vanilla client has..like if regular basic UO had these upgrades (higher fps) customizable window) I believe  every pvper would be fine with UO assist. 

Most of the pvpers play script free/ free shards and were planning on going to one about to come out, becuz dislike for scripts…but these free shards are client locked; with a good assurance (basic razor) with no script abilities.

its not about the scripts, its about the playability… and just modernization. 

Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

In short it is definitely about scripts.  You’d be in a minority if it isn’t.

Perhaps you can send some requests to ClassicUO for some of the more simple requests.

Not true; most these pvpers are quitting for script free / free shards. It’s not about the scripts, for 99%. 

Sure I’ve heard some leaving due to it.  But this here explains that it was a large issue to begin with.

I don’t think they have accounts here, never mind discord

Oreogl said:

Playboy_1 said:

Oreogl said:

Playboy_1 said:

Fenriswolf said:

if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..

It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

Main issues are dress/redress hasent been worked on kr finished
cycling targets by notoriety…or smoothe grab bar (which just means it grabs bar easier) 
can’t use exilag….
cant record simple macros (you can with UO assist) so it’s legal. 

Just simple things the base vanilla client has..like if regular basic UO had these upgrades (higher fps) customizable window) I believe  every pvper would be fine with UO assist. 

Most of the pvpers play script free/ free shards and were planning on going to one about to come out, becuz dislike for scripts…but these free shards are client locked; with a good assurance (basic razor) with no script abilities.

its not about the scripts, its about the playability… and just modernization. 

Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

In short it is definitely about scripts.  You’d be in a minority if it isn’t.

Perhaps you can send some requests to ClassicUO for some of the more simple requests.

Not true; most these pvpers are quitting for script free / free shards. It’s not about the scripts, for 99%. 

Sure I’ve heard some leaving due to it.  But this here explains that it was a large issue to begin with.

90% of free shards are script free..fyi. Strange huh?

Ya this shows the maturity of the cheaters, taunting the ones who complained about cheaters in a game.  @Kyronix ; Enough of this bullsyht.  Ban them!  You can see his account.

Army said:

Oreogl said:

Playboy_1 said:

Oreogl said:

Playboy_1 said:

Fenriswolf said:

if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..

It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

Main issues are dress/redress hasent been worked on kr finished
cycling targets by notoriety…or smoothe grab bar (which just means it grabs bar easier) 
can’t use exilag….
cant record simple macros (you can with UO assist) so it’s legal. 

Just simple things the base vanilla client has..like if regular basic UO had these upgrades (higher fps) customizable window) I believe  every pvper would be fine with UO assist. 

Most of the pvpers play script free/ free shards and were planning on going to one about to come out, becuz dislike for scripts…but these free shards are client locked; with a good assurance (basic razor) with no script abilities.

its not about the scripts, its about the playability… and just modernization. 

Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

In short it is definitely about scripts.  You’d be in a minority if it isn’t.

Perhaps you can send some requests to ClassicUO for some of the more simple requests.

Not true; most these pvpers are quitting for script free / free shards. It’s not about the scripts, for 99%. 

Sure I’ve heard some leaving due to it.  But this here explains that it was a large issue to begin with.

90% of free shards are script free..fyi. Strange huh?

Not really, just means there should be zero issues accepting this change then.

Playboy_1 said:

So you’re right it’s not that hard; but when people has used them for years..feeling like they are
playing a complete new game, then it’s taken away for half finished stuff…they get disheartened/not wana play. Espically when there’s free ones coming out thay include all this (script free) I’m just trying to save the game/keep people playing. 

Well said my friend, I thought you held the fort well while I took temporary leave of absence. 🙂

I feel complimented they thought I was you. I do not even know what Exitlag is.

In terms of everything, just to set a few points straight, and I'm not going to be bothered anymore by all of this, and hope I do not respond again, there is no need for me to.

Trammel was created to be easy-mode, by it's very definition. There is absolutely no escaping this.
Most pvpers, have blitzed pvm content, all of it, we need to, it is beginning steps for us,, I do most pvm, but the end goal is always to progress pvp. Those of us who pvp, and say pvm is easy, we know what we are talking about, because we have experienced both.

I'm going to be honest, I thought the 1st Gen Trammies were bad, but I honestly could not have seen this coming. I had got used to 1st Gen Trammies, it was live and let live.

I've got to admit, this 2nd wave of 2nd Gen Trammies is something else. On one hand, I admire the fight you have in you, on the other, you are so deluded, uninformed and off the scale it is untrue. 2nd Gen pvpers, are in fact a whole different bunch, and I am genuinely proud of how they turn out these days, they are playing for fun, they are used to dying, they do not complain, they do not post, or talk in general chat. To be fair, that is us naughty 1st Gen pvpers.

You can all respond how you like, with your uninformed views, hopefully I have the discipline to not respond (but we all know my willpower is zero) - peace all 🙂

To the Devs, good luck, I hope you realise none of it was personal, unless you are genuinely attacking pvpers - then it is.
To the Mods, great job - of course I deserved a ban, I knew that. 🙂


Edit - Oh, and one of the funniest Ironies - is this entire thread was started by a guy I consider a friend, and is a guildmate, we clearly have very different viewpoints. 🙂

Cookie said:

Playboy_1 said:

So you’re right it’s not that hard; but when people has used them for years..feeling like they are
playing a complete new game, then it’s taken away for half finished stuff…they get disheartened/not wana play. Espically when there’s free ones coming out thay include all this (script free) I’m just trying to save the game/keep people playing. 

Well said my friend, I thought you held the fort well while I took temporary leave of absence. 🙂

I feel complimented they thought I was you. I do not even know what Exitlag is.

In terms of everything, just to set a few points straight, and I'm not going to be bothered anymore by all of this, and hope I do not respond again, there is no need for me to.

Trammel was created to be easy-mode, by it's very definition. There is absolutely no escaping this.
Most pvpers, have blitzed pvm content, all of it, we need to, it is beginning steps for us,, I do most pvm, but the end goal is always to progress pvp. Those of us who pvp, and say pvm is easy, we know what we are talking about, because we have experienced both.

I'm going to be honest, I thought the 1st Gen Trammies were bad, but I honestly could not have seen this coming. I had got used to 1st Gen Trammies, it was live and let live.

I've got to admit, this 2nd wave of 2nd Gen Trammies is something else. On one hand, I admire the fight you have in you, on the other, you are so deluded, uninformed and off the scale it is untrue. 2nd Gen pvpers, are in fact a whole different bunch, and I am genuinely proud of how they turn out these days, they are playing for fun, they are used to dying, they do not complain, they do not post, or talk in general chat. To be fair, that is us naughty 1st Gen pvpers.

You can all respond how you like, with your uninformed views, hopefully I have the discipline to not respond (but we all know my willpower is zero) - peace all 🙂

To the Devs, good luck, I hope you realise none of it was personal, unless you are genuinely attacking pvpers - then it is.
To the Mods, great job - of course I deserved a ban, I knew that. 🙂

No one should take this seriously.  I remember calling people Carebears (however cringeworthy that is looking back now) for playing in trammel.  But having tantrums due to a specific client being shut down is way, way worse.  The irony of accusing others of playing easy mode.

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

Cookie said:

I do not even know what Exitlag is.

It's in the name? Plus i told it.. VPN.

You couldn't play Blade and Soul without one of those (a real e-sport PvP game at some point, with normalize 1v1 and 3v3 on a MMOrpg) cuz the server at NCWest were poo poo.


BTW, you suck at pretending.  😂


Enjoy your BvB for untalented cheaters and retired old gamers enjoying their bots armies.
At this point, I can't blame y'all for using cheat engine.. we clearly not have enough passionate legit players to make things happen short term..

I'm not giving up on exposing the failures tho..

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

@Cookie The problem with today’s society is that it’s either “my way” or “your way.” No one wants to talk, and no one wants to have a civil conversation. It’s always extremes: either “all trammies suck” or “all PvPers are bad and should be banned.”

PvM players farm to stock their vendors, but they probably don’t realize that most of the people buying from those vendors are likely PvPers. Funny how that works. I agree that a lot needs to change, and we can also place some blame on the people running the show.

This is the first time in years that they’ve finally addressed the outdated 1999 client—and they did it poorly, in my opinion. They released something in beta that, as others have pointed out, seems worse than what people in their basements have created. Then there’s New Legacy (NL), which, honestly, no one asked for. It took over three years to release after being announced as the “great comeback of UO.”

If you look back at many posts from both sides—whether you’re PvP or PvM—it’s clear people were asking the same question: why not fix what’s broken before releasing something new? But the past is the past, and now we’re in this situation with a third-party client that has existed for over 10 years. Now, suddenly, they decide, “no more”?

Don’t get me wrong—the web client has potential, but it still has a long way to go. The developers have nothing to do with it, if I understand correctly, so we’re relying on a third party to fix things. If we could have civil conversations, I’m sure we could come to some kind of compromise, like making the A, B, C, and O clients available with certain restrictions.

But instead of working together, people just create 10, 20, 30 threads on the same topic and attack each other. That’s easier, right? Plus, it generates more clicks!

KroDuK said:

Cookie said:

I do not even know what Exitlag is.

It's in the name? Plus i told it.. VPN.

You couldn't play Blade and Soul (a real e-sport PvP game at some point, with normalize 1v1 and 3v3 on a MMOrpg) cuz the server at NCWest were poo poo.


BTW, you suck at pretending.  😂


Enjoy your BvB for untalented cheaters and retired old gamers enjoying their bots armies.
At this point, I can't blame y'all for using cheat engine.. we clearly have not enough passionate legit players to make things happen short term..

I'm not giving up on exposing the failures tho..

And you my friend, I had a dream, where I transferred to Legends and came and wiped you out in pvp.

Then I woke up this morning, and heard how mouthy you are on that shard, then I realised my equipment is shard bound, so I could not be bothered. 🙂

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

You can church it up all you want bud, it doesn’t change anything.

Scripting is still cheating.

Cookie said:

And you my friend, I had a dream, where I transferred to Legends and came and wiped you out in pvp.

Calm down kido and keep dreaming.. Someone is losing touch with reality cuz he got his little automated wheels back.. get back in the rank and know your place and your limit..

You talking with someone that do not limit itself with little automated wheels.

God you are dumb.. never once in your brain u were like well.. maybe i shouldn't talk big the very first day it came back.. i'll look like a weakling.. where was that big talk when we had the same tools?

I take back what I said u clearly know your limit.. or i wouldn't be typing these lines TODAY.

Edit: depending on you, you wouldn't talk big yesterday cuz u lost the ability to auto trapped box in PvP?
This would be the only reason why u talk big today.. cuz u get back this ONE and ONLY ability?!
                                                         

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

You can church it up all you want bud, it doesn’t change anything.

Scripting is still cheating.

King said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

You can church it up all you want bud, it doesn’t change anything.

Scripting is still cheating.

i will make easy for you! and pls answer me this!

What’s the question?

you’re showing me an EC macro vs advocating for a fully automated script 

King said:

i can go on and on and on about that

so, all scripts should be banned right?

why is ok for just the EC? is that not an advantage from 1 client over the other?

why on EC you can have tree stumps  but on the WEBCLIENT is unfair play?

Your argument here is semantics on the word script?  Lol

Thats your argument?

see.....pointless to have a conversation, when you can see right at your face. that you can make a lot and i mean a lot of Lua scripts and you deny they exist

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

You can church it up all you want bud, it doesn’t change anything.

Scripting is still cheating.

I asked the AI - Is scripting cheating.
Now as I come from a Professional background, and I encourage others to learn and progress themselves, the 3rd paragraph is relevant to me, this is the future, this is the way. 🙂

King said:

see.....pointless to have a conversation, when you can see right at your face. that you can make a lot and i mean a lot of Lua scripts and you deny they exist

I know you think you’re making a point here but if they were equivalent you’d all be using EC.

no because 99% the pvpers dont even consider that UO, that thing is ugly as hell

KroDuK said:

Cookie said:

And you my friend, I had a dream, where I transferred to Legends and came and wiped you out in pvp.

Calm down kido and keep dreaming.. Someone is losing touch with reality cuz he got his little automated wheels back.. get back in the rank and know your place and your limit..

You talking with someone that do not limit itself with little automated wheels.

God you are dumb.. never once in your brain u were like well.. maybe i shouldn't talk big the very first day it came back.. i'll look like a weakling.. where was that big talk when we had the same tools?

I take back what I said u clearly know your limit.. or i wouldn't be typing these lines TODAY.

You missed me, admit it, I was only gone 24 hours. 🙂

Oreogl said:

King said:

see.....pointless to have a conversation, when you can see right at your face. that you can make a lot and i mean a lot of Lua scripts and you deny they exist

I know you think you’re making a point here but if they were equivalent you’d all be using EC.

why cant you just say the true? and call what it is

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

You can church it up all you want bud, it doesn’t change anything.

Scripting is still cheating.

I asked the AI - Is scripting cheating.
Now as I come from a Professional background, and I encourage others to learn and progress themselves, the 3rd paragraph is relevant to me, this is the future, this is the way. 🙂

This should be good.  What functions do you want to fully automate, professionally speaking of course.

 😂 

All the people clogging up servers/causing lag was Pvmers btw. Pvpers just want smoother screens/better targeting / cycle by notoriety..not going after dogs cats/ sheep…better frames…more arm/re arm

Playboy_1 said:

All the people clogging up servers/causing lag was Pvmers btw. Pvpers just want smoother screens/better targeting / cycle by notoriety..not going after dogs cats/ sheep…better frames…more arm/re arm

I know some of this is legitimate, I’ve been there. 

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

You can church it up all you want bud, it doesn’t change anything.

Scripting is still cheating.

I asked the AI - Is scripting cheating.
Now as I come from a Professional background, and I encourage others to learn and progress themselves, the 3rd paragraph is relevant to me, this is the future, this is the way. 🙂

This should be good.  What functions do you want to fully automate, professionally speaking of course.

 😂 

When you think about technology, and progress.

A lot of money is spent by the military, and it feeds into civilian technology.
The same used to be true for space technology into civilian technology.
These days - it is gaming tech - that flows into civilian tech - the reason games should and must progress, is because that is how we progress society, that is how we, and our kids learn to adapt to society around us, as it is.

I remember when macros were brand new - then they got put into spreadsheets.
Then scripts.
Then APT links between softwares, so they could link up, and share info and perform tasks etc etc.
Voice Chat became Microsoft Teams.
Virtual Reality games, became Virtual Reality Instructors into some technical roles - like metal-working.
Then AI.
Professionally speaking, my entire role could be automated, to allow me to play more UO. 🙂

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

You can church it up all you want bud, it doesn’t change anything.

Scripting is still cheating.

I asked the AI - Is scripting cheating.
Now as I come from a Professional background, and I encourage others to learn and progress themselves, the 3rd paragraph is relevant to me, this is the future, this is the way. 🙂

This should be good.  What functions do you want to fully automate, professionally speaking of course.

 😂 

When you think about technology, and progress.

A lot of money is spent by the military, and it feeds into civilian technology.
The same used to be true for space technology into civilian technology.
These days - it is gaming tech - that flows into civilian tech - the reason games should and must progress, is because that is how we progress society, that is how we, and our kids learn to adapt to society around us, as it is.

I remember when macros were brand new - then they got put into spreadsheets.
Then scripts.
Then APT links between softwares, so they could link up, and shard info and perform tasks etc etc.
Voice Chat became Microsoft Teams.
Virtual Reality games, became Instructors into some technical roles.
Then AI.
Professionally speaking, my entire role could be automated, to allow me to play more UO. 🙂

Ok, but this doesn’t answer the question does it?

Cookie said:

because that is how we progress society, that is how we, and our kids learn to adapt to society around us, as it is.

                                   

The human species race under Cookie regime.
Make them dumber and lazier!


In the most recent Bernard Werber novel.. he sees a future we are like bees.. but only the 33% that stay home to socialize.. while AI does all the rest.. in this utopia.. u need to nuke 95%+ of the earth population cuz of resources build different colony that would trade their wife.. even then.. I won't spoiled the end... but u can compare his model to what happen and still happening with UO.. nuking their own game while the greed of few is infinite and the main reason why they nuking their own game.. with y'all UO has no future.. it is doom to die when y'all does.

When it has the potential to still be one of the best sandbox out there with 250k+ sub.. the restaurant is infested by cockroaches.

The prophecy of the bees (tome 2 of a 3 books series) not his best if anyone wonder.

This cookie guy seems very smart/cool. Knows what he’s talking about; and respectful about it.

King said:

no because 99% the pvpers dont even consider that UO, that thing is ugly as hell

Yes the graphics suck, I’ve yet to see anyone like them.

But you don’t need to be looking at the graphics if you’re fully scripting anyways.  Many people use it despite the graphics because of the functionality, but wasn’t really the point you were trying to make, is it?

You were trying to compare the twos “scripting”capabilities.

I mean, I’m in favor of giving the EC the CC graphics if that’s what you’re advocating for.  

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

You can church it up all you want bud, it doesn’t change anything.

Scripting is still cheating.

I asked the AI - Is scripting cheating.
Now as I come from a Professional background, and I encourage others to learn and progress themselves, the 3rd paragraph is relevant to me, this is the future, this is the way. 🙂

This should be good.  What functions do you want to fully automate, professionally speaking of course.

 😂 

When you think about technology, and progress.

A lot of money is spent by the military, and it feeds into civilian technology.
The same used to be true for space technology into civilian technology.
These days - it is gaming tech - that flows into civilian tech - the reason games should and must progress, is because that is how we progress society, that is how we, and our kids learn to adapt to society around us, as it is.

I remember when macros were brand new - then they got put into spreadsheets.
Then scripts.
Then APT links between softwares, so they could link up, and shard info and perform tasks etc etc.
Voice Chat became Microsoft Teams.
Virtual Reality games, became Instructors into some technical roles.
Then AI.
Professionally speaking, my entire role could be automated, to allow me to play more UO. 🙂

Ok, but this doesn’t answer the question does it?

I asked you how you wanted to script and you gave me word salad about the military and civilian tech.

Much like the one before, by telling me we all we need to do is be flexible with the idea of scripting and all they needed to do is change the rules to allow it.  

Great, i guess if we are going to continue sell me your ideas.  What do you want it to script?

I answered it.
I would like to script my job role to allow me to play more UO. 🙂
I also would like my kids to be able to learn scripting and coding, to prepare them for the world.

In terms of UO, as that is where I feel you are coming from, I personally am looking at the bigger picture, but I will answer.
Anything I want to, to give me quality of life - the possibilities are endless - why limit ourselves?
Why limit our imagination?
It's a game... enjoy it.
Some people like to build/deco houses.
Some people like to play chess.
Some people like to build scripts.

Did I overdo the scripting in UO?
No. I have never botted.

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

Cookie said:

Oreogl said:

There is no rationalizing cheating.  

There is no rationalising a dead set opinion that is not open to adaptation.

All that has to happen, is the rules change, and something is not cheating.

You can church it up all you want bud, it doesn’t change anything.

Scripting is still cheating.

I asked the AI - Is scripting cheating.
Now as I come from a Professional background, and I encourage others to learn and progress themselves, the 3rd paragraph is relevant to me, this is the future, this is the way. 🙂

This should be good.  What functions do you want to fully automate, professionally speaking of course.

 😂 

When you think about technology, and progress.

A lot of money is spent by the military, and it feeds into civilian technology.
The same used to be true for space technology into civilian technology.
These days - it is gaming tech - that flows into civilian tech - the reason games should and must progress, is because that is how we progress society, that is how we, and our kids learn to adapt to society around us, as it is.

I remember when macros were brand new - then they got put into spreadsheets.
Then scripts.
Then APT links between softwares, so they could link up, and shard info and perform tasks etc etc.
Voice Chat became Microsoft Teams.
Virtual Reality games, became Instructors into some technical roles.
Then AI.
Professionally speaking, my entire role could be automated, to allow me to play more UO. 🙂

Ok, but this doesn’t answer the question does it?

I asked you how you wanted to script and you gave me word salad about the military and civilian tech.

Much like the one before, by telling me we all we need to do is be flexible with the idea of scripting and all they needed to do is change the rules to allow it.  

Great, i guess if we are going to continue sell me your ideas.  What do you want it to script?

I answered it.
I would like to script my job role to allow me to play more UO. 🙂
I also would like my kids to be able to learn scripting and coding, to prepare them for the world.

In terms of UO, as that is where I feel you are coming from, I personally am looking at the bigger picture, but I will answer.
Anything I want to, to give me quality of life - the possibilities are endless - why limit ourselves?
Why limit our imagination?
It's a game... enjoy it.
Some people like to build/deco houses.
Some people like to play chess.
Some people like to build scripts.

Did I overdo the scripting in UO?
No. I have never botted.

You are skirting what you know I am asking,

But to help. Cheating has been going on for the entirety of the game, it’s likely only a matter of time until something comes along to replace it.

Until then, enjoy the game by playing it on “hard” mode.

Playboy_1 said:

This cookie guy seems very smart/cool. Knows what he’s talking about; and respectful about it.

Cookie is fine, he is just politely advocating the return of scripting. It surprised me when I saw the banned next to his name yesterday.

My sarcasm detector is broken.. very funny!

Considering he's arguing with his alt.. this shit is funny as hell.

KroDuK said:

My sarcasm detector is broken.. very funny!

Considering he's arguing with his alt.. this shit is funny as hell.

It could be him, who cares I guess?

Its weird if it is though…

Oreogl said:

who cares I guess?

Anyone that address him?

btw for cookie.. i miss it live but u still can see/read people quoting his non existant post.. the mods only delete the original post they don't bother with the quotes.

They don't bother much at all, to be fair..