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Can we get the ClassicUO Web Client working before NL Launch?

Started by Pawain · 2024-10-14 · 73 posts · General Discussions
#0
It looks like you plan to put them out at the same time.


It would be nice to practice using it before NL.

Please.  @Kyronix

Does this Web Client mean we will have an official UO Discord since you are making us log into discord to use the new client?
#1
Is it currently safe to enter our login information on the web version? 
#2
McDougle said:
Is it currently safe to enter our login information on the web version? 
I did not go that far since real UO is not a choice.  I did not care about my discord info.  I did not know I had a discord account since 2017.
#3
It looks like you will have to download the game files of UO before using it once UO is a choice.  
I need to clear some space.
#4
Pawain said:
McDougle said:
Is it currently safe to enter our login information on the web version? 
I did not go that far since real UO is not a choice.  I did not care about my discord info.  I did not know I had a discord account since 2017.
So we wait until we get official it's safe message 
#5
McDougle said:
Pawain said:
McDougle said:
Is it currently safe to enter our login information on the web version? 
I did not go that far since real UO is not a choice.  I did not care about my discord info.  I did not know I had a discord account since 2017.
So we wait until we get official it's safe message 
Definitely.  Thats why I'd like it to be released first so we can try it out before the mad rush to get a good house spot in NL.
#6
Pawain said:
It looks like you plan to put them out at the same time.


It would be nice to practice using it before NL.

Please.  @ Kyronix

Does this Web Client mean we will have an official UO Discord since you are making us log into discord to use the new client?

I don't have discord.  Is this something I need to look into?
#7
To use the sanctioned web version of ClassicUO, you need a Discord account.

So you would need to make one. @Kalsey

Here are the FAQs.  https://uo.com/wiki/classicuo-web-client/

ClassicUO is basically a tool for developers to use.  They say they chose to use discord instead of IP address so they could banish bad people.  UO is not going to use it for that, they can banish you like they do now.  It is the way ClassicUO has chosen to gain access to the client.

And maybe we will get an official UO discord out of this.

Here is the generic FAQs for Classic UO web version. https://classicuo.org/players/faq
#8
Right now the there are a lot of free shards listed I'm assuming they will go away when it goes live? 
#9
McDougle said:
Right now the there are a lot of free shards listed I'm assuming they will go away when it goes live? 
 😂  its like a Free shard ad right now.  
#10
Pawain said:
McDougle said:
Right now the there are a lot of free shards listed I'm assuming they will go away when it goes live? 
 😂  its like a Free shard ad right now.  
Yes I'm surprised they would point us that way..
#11
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#12
Pawain said:
It looks like you will have to download the game files of UO before using it once UO is a choice.  
I need to clear some space.

Why would you download uo game files? you already have them, you're already playing using them!
#13
Its very disappointing we cant use the non-web version of ClassicUO 

Are they going to add the features of ClassicUO to the official client then maybe ?

#14
I'm not clear whether the web client will run on any Chrome device, or does it still require Windows?  Does anyone know?
#15
Sargon said:
I'm not clear whether the web client will run on any Chrome device, or does it still require Windows?  Does anyone know?
Test it and tell us
#16
Mariah said:
Pawain said:
It looks like you will have to download the game files of UO before using it once UO is a choice.  
I need to clear some space.

Why would you download uo game files? you already have them, you're already playing using them!
It is a new client.  The UO page says you need room for it.

It is out now!  So we shall see.

Thanks @Kyronix!  For listening.
#18
Downloaded no problems, now to figure out all the bells and whistles!

Already like the auto open corpses, auto loot! Automatically open doors....

Yeah I have been playing the CC exclusively since the beginning, not even UO Assist lol so this is pretty darn cool.
#19
Yup you have to download assets.

I hope they are not like the ones in Jason Bourne.



#20
Larisa said:
Downloaded no problems, now to figure out all the bells and whistles!

Already like the auto open corpses, auto loot! Automatically open doors....

Yeah I have been playing the CC exclusively since the beginning, not even UO Assist lol so this is pretty darn cool.
We are like kids in a new candy store.  Love the new things we can do and keep our CC graphics.

My map stayed black for a while, but then it appeared.
#21
I downloaded everything on my Samsung Galaxy Android tablet and was able to log in, but after that it is a complete mess.  I have two major problems that are really preventing me from doing anything else.  # 1 is that my mouse is out of sync with the cursor. I move the cursor and click on the screen, but the click doesn't register where my cursor is at.  The second problem is that the video is very finnicky and it flickers constantly if I try to maximize the window and/or change anything about the gameplay window size or zoom.

So, while it appears logging in on Android is TECHNICALLY possible, there are serious issues.

I suspect maybe it doesn't play well with certain resolutions and/or display framerates.
#22
Pawain said:

We are like kids in a new candy store.  Love the new things we can do and keep our CC graphics.

The candy store isn't new, you've just been standing outside it the whole time going "Candy is for cheaters, I prefer the taste of dirt myself! Mmm, yummy dirt!"
#23
Pawain said:

We are like kids in a new candy store.  Love the new things we can do and keep our CC graphics.

The candy store isn't new, you've just been standing outside it the whole time going "Candy is for cheaters, I prefer the taste of dirt myself! Mmm, yummy dirt!"
Ya silly me following the rules, yet it seems I been having more fun than you, I'm not crabby about UO.
#24
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
#25
Now that the team openly acknowledged free shards will they quit pretending stratics doesn't exist? 
#26
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
The little keyboard symbol on the right side area. Called Hot Keys.
#27
Pawain said:
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
The little keyboard symbol on the right side area. Called Hot Keys.
Thanks, i saw that but didn't see a lot of options. i'll poke around in it when i get home. 

**EDIT** apparently they hadn't loaded in yet the first time. Theres a ton of options now.  going to be busy figuring these out.
#28
Sargon said:
I'm not clear whether the web client will run on any Chrome device, or does it still require Windows?  Does anyone know?
I don't know about something like a Chromebook, but you can use Chrome on Mac and Linux to play for sure. UO is now officially cross platform.
#29
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
I made macros and put stuff on the desk top.  When I logged out and in,  they were all gone....
#30
works in Linux Mint 22 with Microsoft Edge chromium browser.
#31
Pawain said:
Yup you have to download assets.

I hope they are not like the ones in Jason Bourne.



You were saying UO GAME FILES.. u dishonest....
#32
Pawain said:
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
I made macros and put stuff on the desk top.  When I logged out and in,  they were all gone....
My macros stayed, but the spells i put on the desktop did not. 
#33
KroDuK said:
Pawain said:
Yup you have to download assets.

I hope they are not like the ones in Jason Bourne.



You were saying UO GAME FILES.. u dishonest....
The client is running from a window.

What do you think is downloading? Diablo 4 game files?

Please comprehend what someone wrote before you reply and make a fool of yourself daily.
#34
A truly lost cause.

The gifted in the land of the fools  B)
#35
Anyone try this on a tablet yet?

I messed around with it earlier, as mentioned before the sound was glitchy so i turned it off.

i appreciated the smooth transitions and extra FPS, and that you can adjust the rate.  For fun I jacked it up to 200+.  My laptop started screaming and I froze so I dialed it back down.

Still playing with the new gumps, but also liked the in game map.  

Couldn’t get the hot bar to pull up but I didn’t mess with it long enough to make sure it wasn’t user error.


#36
Some thoughts after several hours with the new client:
1) There needs to be a desktop version--playing in a browser window is cumbersome.
2) The new client lacks so many basic features of the classic client, what exactly are we gaining?
3) The new client lacks some of the most important UOAssist features especially in the agents area.
4) Every time I loaded into the game it was a seemingly different version.  Sometimes there was a map sometimes not, sometimes my hotkeys were there sometimes they were not, etc.
#37
Oreogl said:
Anyone try this on a tablet yet?

I messed around with it earlier, as mentioned before the sound was glitchy so i turned it off.

i appreciated the smooth transitions and extra FPS, and that you can adjust the rate.  For fun I jacked it up to 200+.  My laptop started screaming and I froze so I dialed it back down.

Still playing with the new gumps, but also liked the in game map.  

Couldn’t get the hot bar to pull up but I didn’t mess with it long enough to make sure it wasn’t user error.


I tried it on a Fire tablet but the version of "chrome" they use is incompatible with the game. it let me download the assets but it wouldn't run, got an error. I may try my wifes ipad next. got to find it though lol

#38
JAEnox said:
Some thoughts after several hours with the new client:
1) There needs to be a desktop version--playing in a browser window is cumbersome.

agreed!!



2) The new client lacks so many basic features of the classic client, what exactly are we gaining?

Huh??  


3) The new client lacks some of the most important UOAssist features especially in the agents area.

Like what?



4) Every time I loaded into the game it was a seemingly different version.  Sometimes there was a map sometimes not, sometimes my hotkeys were there sometimes they were not, etc.

agreed...it wasn't tested with retail servers EVER, it works fine on free shards.
I'm not sure you looked through hotkeys/macros tbh
#39
We can't even keep the forum working correctly or the uo.com home page are we really supposed to have faith the team can keep this running??I think our hopes were that the classicUO people would be involved...
#40
Pawain said:
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
I made macros and put stuff on the desk top.  When I logged out and in,  they were all gone....
I had the same problem, it was the main bug I encountered. No macros saving after log out or close the browser window. The other major bug was the black screen when you log back in. I think they may be related but not sure 100%. I tried Chrome and MS Edge and they both had the same issues.
#41
rob0 said:
Pawain said:
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
I made macros and put stuff on the desk top.  When I logged out and in,  they were all gone....
I had the same problem, it was the main bug I encountered. No macros saving after log out or close the browser window. The other major bug was the black screen when you log back in. I think they may be related but not sure 100%
@LilyGrace got the black screen bug also.
#42
Having played EC for many years I'd forgotten how terrible the CC can be other than some art work the EC just far superior o just don't understand the insanity of adding yet another client or the years wasted on NL or why the contest winners don't have banners yet...
#43
rob0 said:
Pawain said:
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
I made macros and put stuff on the desk top.  When I logged out and in,  they were all gone....
I had the same problem, it was the main bug I encountered. No macros saving after log out or close the browser window. The other major bug was the black screen when you log back in. I think they may be related but not sure 100%. I tried Chrome and MS Edge and they both had the same issues.
Quick question for you both. are you running as admin when you start your browser? My macros are saving and i'm not getting a black screen. My only issue is the spells not staying on the desktop and my world map wasn't working, but ithe map started working a little bit ago so i'm down to the spells.

#44
rob0 said:
Pawain said:
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
I made macros and put stuff on the desk top.  When I logged out and in,  they were all gone....
I had the same problem, it was the main bug I encountered. No macros saving after log out or close the browser window. The other major bug was the black screen when you log back in. I think they may be related but not sure 100%. I tried Chrome and MS Edge and they both had the same issues.
Quick question for you both. are you running as admin when you start your browser? My macros are saving and i'm not getting a black screen. My only issue is the spells not staying on the desktop and my world map wasn't working, but ithe map started working a little bit ago so i'm down to the spells.

I wasn't using admin mode, but now that you mention it, I tried it and still had the same problems on MS Edge. I'm going to try chrome proper, and I will comment again if that solves it. Otherwise it's not looking so good.
#45
rob0 said:
rob0 said:
Pawain said:
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
I made macros and put stuff on the desk top.  When I logged out and in,  they were all gone....
I had the same problem, it was the main bug I encountered. No macros saving after log out or close the browser window. The other major bug was the black screen when you log back in. I think they may be related but not sure 100%. I tried Chrome and MS Edge and they both had the same issues.
Quick question for you both. are you running as admin when you start your browser? My macros are saving and i'm not getting a black screen. My only issue is the spells not staying on the desktop and my world map wasn't working, but ithe map started working a little bit ago so i'm down to the spells.

I wasn't using admin mode, but now that you mention it, I tried it and still had the same problems on MS Edge. I'm going to try chrome proper, and I will comment again if that solves it. Otherwise it's not looking so good.
I only ask because i have my Chrome set to do that and i get the macro to save, they were even there when i opened Edge later. 
#46
rob0 said:
rob0 said:
Pawain said:
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
I made macros and put stuff on the desk top.  When I logged out and in,  they were all gone....
I had the same problem, it was the main bug I encountered. No macros saving after log out or close the browser window. The other major bug was the black screen when you log back in. I think they may be related but not sure 100%. I tried Chrome and MS Edge and they both had the same issues.
Quick question for you both. are you running as admin when you start your browser? My macros are saving and i'm not getting a black screen. My only issue is the spells not staying on the desktop and my world map wasn't working, but ithe map started working a little bit ago so i'm down to the spells.

I wasn't using admin mode, but now that you mention it, I tried it and still had the same problems on MS Edge. I'm going to try chrome proper, and I will comment again if that solves it. Otherwise it's not looking so good.
I only ask because i have my Chrome set to do that and i get the macro to save, they were even there when i opened Edge later. 
I tried it (Admin mode) on both Chrome and MS Edge, and neither took to saving the macros.

I also tried disabling adblock and norton safeweb, and that also didn't help.
#47
Got an error that it's not supported on the base install for firefox, it recommended chrome 121.

I updated chrome to the latest version and uninstalled all my browser extensions.

The only progress that I've made is I can log out via paperdoll button, and when I log back in I can manually pull the macros profile from the top icon on the right hand side.

But if I log out and close the browser and then come back in, it doesn't keep the saved macros.

It's saving my login though, and the setting on the login screen to disable music.

I'm wondering if it might help to have the ClassicUO native client installed. That might work. I just don't want to be 'caught' using unauthorized softwares.
#48
rob0 said:
The only progress that I've made is I can log out via paperdoll button, and when I log back in I can manually pull the macros profile from the top icon on the right hand side.

But if I log out and close the browser and then come back in, it doesn't keep the saved macros.
It does the same thing with the classic client, if u do new macros or moving thing on the UI and hard shut your game (instead of log out/paperdoll) everything gonna be lost.
#49
KroDuK said:
rob0 said:
The only progress that I've made is I can log out via paperdoll button, and when I log back in I can manually pull the macros profile from the top icon on the right hand side.

But if I log out and close the browser and then come back in, it doesn't keep the saved macros.
It does the same thing with the classic client, if u do new macros or moving thing on the UI and hard shut your game (instead of log out/paperdoll) everything gonna be lost.
Yes I was logging out by the paperdoll, and then closing the browser/client. Still did not save the macros.

I did figure out, I cleaned my browser history, and enabled cookies and tracking on MS Edge, and it finally allows me to log out and close the browser while saving the macros. I guess they use trackers and cookies to save that info

But I still have the blank screen when I log in, need to open the options and click on the frame rate slider to re open the game play window, and then set up my various gumps... However not as much of a PITA as needing to set all my macros every time.
#50
Even if it works perfectly it doesn't work to stop the cheating it doesn't upgrade the actual cc at all it just adds something for  supposedly overwhelmed team to keep working correctly what's the point..
#51
I wonder if @Lord_Nythrax did the switch from the CUO client to the web browser experience.  o:)

Trolling aside.. i'm curious about your opinion on what is actually happening.


@rob0 yeah, was saying at first, when u couldn't use the paperdoll it make total sense.. now u can load back your profile if your not closing the browser.. (losing the "link")

I thought the assets would be install in your UO folder and save those macros on your PC.. i'd look for those new installed files on my PC and try to fix the link between the web browser and those files; usually user right, but u fix it with the admin stuff.
#52
KroDuK said:
I wonder if @ Lord_Nythrax did the switch from the CUO client to the web browser experience.  o:)

Trolling aside.. i'm curious about your opinion on what is actually going on.

If you are going from *** to the Web Based CUO, you are going backwards (due to extra "functionality"). It could only be worth it if absolutely everyone is doing it, to give it a certain fairness. Losing the functionality is painful to be fair.

If you are going from Classic Client, or Enhanced Client, it is a step forwards, however, there seem to be a few bugs (as mentioned), these do need to be smoothed out. Then honestly, I would open up more options. Then honestly - I would open up even more options...

The other issue, the web based browser can be a winner for a lot of players, in a lot of scenarios, but many of us like the desktop client, it works well for us.

My personal opinion is, for New Legacy, the web based CUO client can make playability quite nice for those players, and they should enforce play on that Shard.
My other opinion is, they should let players play how they want on main Production shards.

#53
rob0 said:
rob0 said:
Pawain said:
I didn't have a lot of time (fiddled about while on lunch) but couldn't really find a macro section. could somone point it out to a blind old fart?
I made macros and put stuff on the desk top.  When I logged out and in,  they were all gone....
I had the same problem, it was the main bug I encountered. No macros saving after log out or close the browser window. The other major bug was the black screen when you log back in. I think they may be related but not sure 100%. I tried Chrome and MS Edge and they both had the same issues.
Quick question for you both. are you running as admin when you start your browser? My macros are saving and i'm not getting a black screen. My only issue is the spells not staying on the desktop and my world map wasn't working, but ithe map started working a little bit ago so i'm down to the spells.

I wasn't using admin mode, but now that you mention it, I tried it and still had the same problems on MS Edge. I'm going to try chrome proper, and I will comment again if that solves it. Otherwise it's not looking so good.
I only ask because i have my Chrome set to do that and i get the macro to save, they were even there when i opened Edge later. 
I cant tell, it says admin and user.   

Today it was bad,  I just opened 1 account, it would not save macros or desktop.  It logged in as a black screen multiple times.  I played with the profile section.  The profile would not save.  Music would sound crappy.   Wont be using it for NL launch.
#54
KroDuK said:

I thought the assets would be install in your UO folder and save those macros on your PC.. i'd look for those new installed files on my PC and try to fix the link between the web browser and those files; usually user right, but u fix it with the admin stuff.
I don't think it uses the files from my UO macros folder. The fact that the strange behaviour stopped happening when I enabled tracking/cookies suggests to me that they would be saved in the metadata of the browser. But I don't want to mess with it to see, now that it's finally working.
#55
Oreogl said:
Anyone try this on a tablet yet?

I messed around with it earlier, as mentioned before the sound was glitchy so i turned it off.

i appreciated the smooth transitions and extra FPS, and that you can adjust the rate.  For fun I jacked it up to 200+.  My laptop started screaming and I froze so I dialed it back down.

Still playing with the new gumps, but also liked the in game map.  

Couldn’t get the hot bar to pull up but I didn’t mess with it long enough to make sure it wasn’t user error.


I tried it on a Fire tablet but the version of "chrome" they use is incompatible with the game. it let me download the assets but it wouldn't run, got an error. I may try my wifes ipad next. got to find it though lol

You’re doing God’s work over there.  Thanks for the info.

ill try and see if I can do one of our iPads over the next couple days too and see what happens.
#56
Pawain said:
I cant tell, it says admin and user.   

Today it was bad,  I just opened 1 account, it would not save macros or desktop.  It logged in as a black screen multiple times.  I played with the profile section.  The profile would not save.  Music would sound crappy.   Wont be using it for NL launch.
To know if it is, you will get this screen when you start it. 



I did go in and disable the ad-blocker, enabled popup, etc for that page and it appears to be saving my desktop and the map loads every  time, not to mention the macros still save.




@Oreogl still haven't found the Ipad, it's an old one so i doubt it will download a usable version of Chrome. I'll let you know though.
#57
It ran ok on Chromebook so no windows needed 
#58
Cookie said:
If you are going from Orion
Bra.. your not Nythrax... I asked him cuz he was very pump with the idea of a mainstream CUO and he has experience with it, i'm very curious about HIS opinion here..

In your case, I already get it; you lack the skill to play a mid tier game without your little fully automated wheel and refuse to put the effort required (not talented, motivated nor strong enough to be legit).. the only thing that would make you happier than botting, is if the designer ruin UO even more on the long run with OP BIS perfect suit.

Your a league of trolls player; that can't get pass the gold ranking, wich is why u prefer botting and cheating on UO.

My quote is where i stop reading you.. The dev should do the opposite of the majority of the stuff your asking, if they want to make UO great again.

PS: I can already predict the rest of your message; short sight vision & selfish, while promoting cheating.. same old.
#59
KroDuK said:
Cookie said:
If you are going from Orion
Bra.. your not Nythrax... I asked him cuz he was very pump with the idea of a mainstream CUO and he has experience with it, i'm very curious about HIS opinion here..

In your case, I already get it; you lack the skill to play a mid tier game without your little fully automated wheel and refuse to put the effort required (not talented, motivated nor strong enough to be legit).. the only thing that would make you happier than botting, is if the designer ruin UO even more on the long run with OP BIS perfect suit.

Your a league of trolls player; that can't get pass the gold ranking, wich is why u prefer botting and cheating on UO.

My quote is where i stop reading you.. The dev should do the opposite of the majority of the stuff your asking, if they want to make UO great again.

PS: I can already predict the rest of your message; short sight vision & selfish, while promoting cheating.. same old.
One day, you may wish to progress beyond 12 years old. 🙂
#60
Cookie said:
One day, you may wish to progress beyond 12 years old. 🙂

#61
@Victim_Of_Siege ; they fixed the not saving errors.

How do I make that spell bar?
#62
@Pawain
Go to Game Options, go down to Experimental, Enable Spell Bar.
Then drag spells out - as you do, you will notice it forms a sort of bar.

Then when they are all locked together - you can use Alt to see the Locks, and unlock, and move them around.
#63
The ability to import our user data files would fix a lot 
#64
Cookie said:
@ Pawain
Go to Game Options, go down to Experimental, Enable Spell Bar.
Then drag spells out - as you do, you will notice it forms a sort of bar.

Then when they are all locked together - you can use Alt to see the Locks, and unlock, and move them around.
Thanks.  Thats awesome.  Can group spells.  

Anything for drinking potions?

Or any other pro tips.
#65
Has anyone had any luck with the autoloot thing? I set it up like the tutorial on classicuo's website and it will tell me that the gold has been autolooted but it stays in the corpse's inventory?

Also weirdly today it won't let me use runebooks haha
I'm sure things will get ironed out in time but any ideas on it would be greatly appreciated!
#66
Nethriza said:
Has anyone had any luck with the autoloot thing? I set it up like the tutorial on classicuo's website and it will tell me that the gold has been autolooted but it stays in the corpse's inventory?

Also weirdly today it won't let me use runebooks haha
I'm sure things will get ironed out in time but any ideas on it would be greatly appreciated!
There appear to be a few glitches here and there, like today my Macros were there, but not working. It's like the hotkeys weren't assigned or the keyboard wasn't sending the data. I could restart and they would work. They do appear to be working on it though so hopefully there's a full shakedown coming and they bugs will be thoroughly squashed.  
#67

I am still at a point where Goggles will not work, In edge I got it to work, but it is super slow.

#68


#69
#70
How to use auto follow? 
#71
McDougle said:
How to use auto follow? 
alt+left click  on who to follow.
#72
Drakelord said:

I am still at a point where Goggles will not work, In edge I got it to work, but it is super slow.

There is an option to adjust the FPS. I shoved mine up to max 250 - I think default setting was 60, which is choppy.
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