Can we fix fishing in tel muir?

Please @Kyronix ;

You need to please be more specific in your requests. 

Allow boats again my apologies 

Let me clarify i understand it was stopped due to tel muir somehow being  a dungeon and i can live with that however should we catch dungeon fish there if so ?

Mariah said:

There have never been boats in Ter Mur, so you can't have them 'again'. It was, at first, possible to catch dungeon fish in Eodon, but by extending treasure hunting to include all facets that had to be changed so that Eodon no longer counted as 'dungeon'.

If you look at the Ter Mur map you can see there are no areas of water large enough for sailing anything bigger than a row boat.

https://uo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/termurmap1.jpg

Ah that's right i get the two confused. although i don't understand not being able to launch a row boat if it's because tel muir is a "dungeon" then dungeon fish should spawn there

Pawain said:

So you want dungeon fish in an easy place...

Can I get 120 scrolls fishing from my fel castle too?

This in no way impacts you other than adding to your 7k+ troll post count is there a reason you've replied and why on earth is it allowed...

So fishing in both tel muir and eodon are treated like a dungeon but dungeon fish don't spawn this is what should be "fixed"

Mariah said:

It's not dungeon any more, because of treasure maps - and you can't launch row boats in Malas Gravewater lake or Ilshenar either.

Incidentally, the facet is called Ter Mur not Tel Muir.

Thank you for the clarification on the name but your two examples both prove my point 

Gravewater lake is the underwater dungeon all of ilshenar is a dungeon.
I will accept your theory and not continue this discussion 

For dungeon fishing in ilshenar I fish in the mushroom cave.  For relatively safe dungeon fishing in Trammel I do this spot in Shame level 2

I'm well aware of all dungeon fishing locations safe or not I'm simply asking for dungeon rules to apply completely if they are applied but i understand not everyone agrees with my opinion 

keven2002 said:

It's funny... Kyronix responds on average like once a week to posts... and somehow vague McDougle requests are what he responds to half the time.

Either start being more specific (and accurate) or stop tagging Kyronix. He has to check the snowflakes Misk is hand drawing for NL.

CovenantX said:

keven2002 said:

It's funny... Kyronix responds on average like once a week to posts... and somehow vague McDougle requests are what he responds to half the time.

Either start being more specific (and accurate) or stop tagging Kyronix. He has to check the snowflakes Misk is hand drawing for NL.

   That's just the 'increased communication' we heard about years ago.   non-answers, just a meer showing of meaningless interactions so they can say things like 'we hear you' 'we see what you're saying' etc etc.

Watch, this might get a response just to prove the point.

No it won't, they are double bluffing you 🙂

I feel Kyronix is actually active but limited in what he's able to say and do

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.....  eh Kyronix ?  😂

Nuthin but ❤️ 4 ya chief.

I can't believe how yall can be such jerks to this nice man.

Pawain said:

I can't believe how yall can be such jerks to this nice man.

Expressing our opinions and wanting our game to thrive hardly being jerks

Kyronix said: If we were to revisit fishing though, one goal would be to fix the inconsistencies. 

Kyronix said:

Realistically only actual dungeons should be valid areas for dungeon fishing.  The game treats Ilsh & Ter Mur as a giant dungeon area, which it kind of is but also kind of isn't.  I wasn't part of the team during the fishing update of HS, so can't speak to the motivations then.  If we were to revisit fishing though, one goal would be to fix the inconsistencies. 

@ keven2002  - I answer questions and engage when I can and where I can in between my coloring sessions, I'm getting really good at staying in the lines!

@ CovenantX  - I'm happy to engage on the forums, and also in-game when things are in testing.  These types of interactions are limited though, as there are other tasks that I have to tend to.  What discourages these interactions though are when bad faith arguments make their way into the discussion (not saying you are guilty of this, just offering insight as to why I may or may not engage in any particular thread).  I read just about everything that gets posted here and the TC forum during testing, and often times we get more out of you guys having a lively discussion then injecting ourselves into the conversation. 

None of you show respect do you read what you write or does the vitriol just flow. Grimm really ? Every post you write is a complaint you can't compose something constructive.  As seen by the OP. No one needs to see what your opinion of the developers knowledge or work day. Because you do not know what their job description is. 

Please post it if you do. Yalls posts are anonymous blabbering about topics you know nothing of. Or you would have their jobs if you are so good.

Can you send a link to the games you have created?

Pawain said:

None of you show respect do you read what you write or does the vitriol just flow. Grimm really ? Every post you write is a complaint you can't compose something constructive.  As seen by the OP. No one needs to see what your opinion of the developers knowledge or work day. Because you do not know what their job description is. 

Please post it if you do. Yalls posts are anonymous blabbering about topics you know nothing of. Or you would have their jobs if you are so good.

Can you send a link to the games you have created?

I'd like to do the things I enjoy fishing/pirating but have gotten nothing new. My main character was a mystic/bard made unplayable by a bug with mystic aoe spells not working on provoked creatures a bug not even acknowledged much less fixed. We've waited months for new events to get bunnies now I'm glad we've included ways for many different templates to play but you don't take away the dungeon part and you should include fishing pirating treasure hunting thieves etc. We hear the Dev team so busy on Nl no time for other things then mesanne goes on witch hunting tangents (bridge houses player memorials) and lastly the forum itself a place people should be able to come and air concerns or grievances. Now you attack me it's ok but ANYONE who post any issue is instantly put on trial look in the mirror...

CovenantX said:of them were here for the creation of the game (in the dev position at the time).

    @ Pawain   you of all people are probably the single greatest example of someone that posts about subjects you know nothing about.

Prove it, Link right here what I said was wrong. 

Don't include the bug forum because I go there to play.

Grimbeard said:

I'd like to do the things I enjoy fishing/pirating but have gotten nothing new. My main character was a mystic/bard made unplayable by a bug with mystic aoe spells not working on provoked creatures a bug not even acknowledged much less fixed. We've waited months for new events to get bunnies now I'm glad we've included ways for many different templates to play but you don't take away the dungeon part and you should include fishing pirating treasure hunting thieves etc. We hear the Dev team so busy on Nl no time for other things then mesanne goes on witch hunting tangents (bridge houses player memorials) and lastly the forum itself a place people should be able to come and air concerns or grievances. Now you attack me it's ok but ANYONE who post any issue is instantly put on trial look in the mirror...

Cast RCs. I can play a mystic without the added benefits of a Bard. How do you think I get Gargoyle suits from every dungeon.

I rarely have an opportunity to use any area spells while using him. Maybe cast and run into a crowd and use them at the Dynamic spawns, but nothing is discorded using that method.  I kill the mobs before they get thick enough.  You really discord the low HP Mobs in a crowd.  They should be dead before you can do that.  Discord the high HP things and use the correct damage spells or weapon. (Don't tell Y, I think something is wrong with Bombard. I have cast the correct spells on mobs, then toss a rock, the rock almost always does the most damage)

Tell us where you have trouble and I am sure someone can help you kill better.

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

I'd like to do the things I enjoy fishing/pirating but have gotten nothing new. My main character was a mystic/bard made unplayable by a bug with mystic aoe spells not working on provoked creatures a bug not even acknowledged much less fixed. We've waited months for new events to get bunnies now I'm glad we've included ways for many different templates to play but you don't take away the dungeon part and you should include fishing pirating treasure hunting thieves etc. We hear the Dev team so busy on Nl no time for other things then mesanne goes on witch hunting tangents (bridge houses player memorials) and lastly the forum itself a place people should be able to come and air concerns or grievances. Now you attack me it's ok but ANYONE who post any issue is instantly put on trial look in the mirror...

Cast RCs. I can play a mystic without the added benefits of a Bard. How do you think I get Gargoyle suits from every dungeon.

I rarely have an opportunity to use any area spells while using him. Maybe cast and run into a crowd and use them at the Dynamic spawns, but nothing is discorded using that method.  I kill the mobs before they get thick enough.  You really discord the low HP Mobs in a crowd.  They should be dead before you can do that.  Discord the high HP things and use the correct damage spells or weapon. (Don't tell Y, I think something is wrong with Bombard. I have cast the correct spells on mobs, then toss a rock, the rock almost always does the most damage)

Tell us where you have trouble and I am sure someone can help you kill better.

So you  don't play a bard and your solution is not to use what's broken

I knew you could not come up with anything useful as a reply. I said I have a bard I have a Mystyic, I have never had reason to use that spell on a discorded target of mine. I am wondering why you cant play that template because 1 thing does not work under 1 condition.  Which we will never know because you can not come up with a reason.  Why can player A play a Bard and Player B play a mystic and do just fine in events, but you can't play a combination of the two where the bard benefits the Mystic in may other ways that just one spell that only doesn't do the proper damage under 1 specific condition.

Ok real slow provo monsters then use hail storm they take no damage gee that seems broken this bug reported multiple times by multiple people 

Pawain said:

CovenantX said:of them were here for the creation of the game (in the dev position at the time).

    @ Pawain   you of all people are probably the single greatest example of someone that posts about subjects you know nothing about.

Prove it, Link right here what I said was wrong. 

Don't include the bug forum because I go there to play.

This standard operating for allen will argue enough to get thread locked

CovenantX said:

Pawain said:

CovenantX said:of them were here for the creation of the game (in the dev position at the time).

    @ Pawain   you of all people are probably the single greatest example of someone that posts about subjects you know nothing about.

Prove it, Link right here what I said was wrong. 

Don't include the bug forum because I go there to play.

   You literally just admitted to what I said, Well that was easy.... and "Oh that doesn't count".

  

I assume you do the same in pvp threads, clearly anyone who knows you, knows you have no clue about pvp.

Thanks, so my guides and tips are correct, that's all I care about.  I don't care if I told Yoshi an opinion that you don't agree with in the bugs section.

You will notice I do not say much in the PvP forum since I do not do that.

Grimbeard said:

Ok real slow provo monsters then use hail storm they take no damage gee that seems broken this bug reported multiple times by multiple people 

So that is the only spell you can use? You can not play a Bard/Mystic because of that one spell under 1 specific condition?

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Ok real slow provo monsters then use hail storm they take no damage gee that seems broken this bug reported multiple times by multiple people 

So that is the only spell you can use? You can not play a Bard/Mystic because of that one spell under 1 specific condition?

Well it's only one of two aoe spells a mystic has imagine it your sampires ww attack quit working vs provoked creatures 

Grimbeard said:

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Ok real slow provo monsters then use hail storm they take no damage gee that seems broken this bug reported multiple times by multiple people 

So that is the only spell you can use? You can not play a Bard/Mystic because of that one spell under 1 specific condition?

Well it's only one of two aoe spells a mystic has imagine it your sampires ww attack quit working vs provoked creatures 

Thanks for your colorful commentary Kyronix, as usual.

Thread lock eminent as board warriors lock horns, as usual. 

Pretty sure OP topic was covered. Nothing to see here, move along.  

CovenantX said:

Grimbeard said:

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Ok real slow provo monsters then use hail storm they take no damage gee that seems broken this bug reported multiple times by multiple people 

So that is the only spell you can use? You can not play a Bard/Mystic because of that one spell under 1 specific condition?

Well it's only one of two aoe spells a mystic has imagine it your sampires ww attack quit working vs provoked creatures 

   You know, Enemy of one 'quits working' on provoked targets.  due to the same issue.

  

I reported a similar issue with provoke on stratics, but i think it was before they made changes to provoke and chivalry, but the issue I reported had more to do with the removal of factions, but i know the issue was a fel-only thing.

Yup provoked mobs do not get the damage from EoO. Damn now my Archer/Bard is unplayable!

Someone should have told me he is unplayable years ago since I have been using him since ML came out.

So you think its a bug we should just ignore? 

Grimbeard said:

So you think its a bug we should just ignore? 

I did not say ignore it, it is reported, done.

I commented because you told Kyronix your MysticBard is unplayable.  It is not!  No more than my Archer Bard is.

Also I have played him for years and never noticed this.

“Pawain,
make 3 x thread on making luck suit (one mod) 
Easiest suit to make, only 3 pieces of armor to make, rest is all luck arties…could’ve showed everything in 1 short post.

1) shows he make shield out of metal instead of wood so loses 2 hit point regen
2) don’t say anything about importance of making weapon mage weap and hit lightning, and shows a 2.5 second swing speed weap instead of 2 second weap
3) uses bracelet of primal consumption and shows one with energy eater instead of damage eater.
4) don’t even show the best apron piece to choose.     (fc1 sdi 5) and chooses wrong sash.



what a pro gamer

credit where credit is due, 7000 post, world record for throwing volume of s**t against a wall and have nothing stick”

We seem to have gone a long way from fishing in Ter Mur.  I believe that concern was addressed.