Amount of Counterfeit Eggs at the spawn.

Players are saying that only 10 drop per spawn.  Is that intended? @Kyronix

Usually there are 20+ participation drops.

Yes - this is intended.  There are other ways to acquire the eggs.

Kyronix said:

Yes - this is intended.  There are other ways to acquire the eggs.

Ok, I'll take your word for it, and hold fire lol. 

"other ways"?

Green Thorns being one - there are others ? 🙂

Thanks.

Is there going to be a treasure if dungeon this time?? Any hints on location if so ?

Grimbeard said:

Is there going to be a treasure of dungeon this time?? Any hints on location if so ?

Counterfeit Commodities

Something isn’t quite right this Spring…collectors across the realm have reeled at the fact counterfeit curiously adorned eggs have hit the market!  While the source of these fakes has yet to be determined, there is a concerted effort to rid the world of these erroneous eggs!

• Green thorns planted in fields during the months of April & May will spawn a miniaturized version of the Alchemist’s Abomination!
• Each of the top 3 contributors have a chance to acquire a Counterfeit Egg, with luck assisting that chance
• There is also a chance an extra egg can be found on the corpse of the rabbit
• Counterfeit Eggs can be turned into the Counterfeit Commodities Trader at the Britain Commons for rewards

@Kyronix, please consider reducing the cooldown timer between spawns from 30 minutes to say 5-10 minutes?  The spawn is being run end-end in 5-10 minutes on several shards.  Thank you..

Not something we can do at this time, that cooldown time is a wonderful opportunity to chat with your mates, re-supply, and plant some green thorns to get some bunnies (coming tomorrow!)

Thanks!

Yay the Plinth!  And the serpent skin quiver.

Good to know you are making the items i paid a ton for worthless now.  thanks.

Arnold7 said:

Oreogl usually the price on items you paid a ton for does not change much during these events.  Have not done this one yet so won’t say anything else. Did not know it had started.

Example I paid 175m for a wand of warding. It’s now 10 eggs.  Same thing for lantern of protection.  Same thing for quiver although it’s 20 eggs.  I did the spawn for a few hours.  I can already get a couple of these things.  

Oreogl said:

Arnold7 said:

Oreogl usually the price on items you paid a ton for does not change much during these events.  Have not done this one yet so won’t say anything else. Did not know it had started.

Example I paid 175m for a wand of warding. It’s now 10 eggs.  Same thing for lantern of protection.  Same thing for quiver although it’s 20 eggs.  I did the spawn for a few hours.  I can already get a couple of these things.  

The odds of the prices remaining what I paid for them are next to nil.  I’m debating on cancelling my accounts and playing for free.

Sounds like you overpaid for all those items.

The wand and lantern were 10 drops originally.  Probably not many people picked them, hence availability may be lower than other items.

The quiver was available in bountiful supply on most shards, given the event got started off on an interesting foot (tons of spawn in a small area).

Glad to see the yukio earrings.

If anything, more prior items could be added.  "Katakotl ring" would be one.

so are there going to be  new colors on the hedges or butterflies?  i mean with all the graphics in game yall couldnt have done anything even remotely creative with rewards? i mean there are tons of unused flower graphics, nothing says spring like spring peepers could have made a little bullfrog statue that peeps, could have done some leaves scattered on the ground graphic, could have done rabbit statues, i can keep on going all day. to me paying for this stuff u guys recycle every couple months is getting old. i dont mind the reoccurring dungeons, or even the eggs ....but the more u reuse these same rewards the more worthless you make them.....and we pay for these items with our time, why should we invest time in getting an item that will be as common as stealable artifacts in a week?  i know yall are all invested in that shard youve been working on for the last 2 ..or 3 years..... but you would think keeping your player base happy would still be a priority but it seems more and more u guys just wanna smack that easy button then go back to ignoring your players for months on end. 

ForeverFun said:

Oreogl said:

Arnold7 said:

Oreogl usually the price on items you paid a ton for does not change much during these events.  Have not done this one yet so won’t say anything else. Did not know it had started.

Example I paid 175m for a wand of warding. It’s now 10 eggs.  Same thing for lantern of protection.  Same thing for quiver although it’s 20 eggs.  I did the spawn for a few hours.  I can already get a couple of these things.  

The odds of the prices remaining what I paid for them are next to nil.  I’m debating on cancelling my accounts and playing for free.

Sounds like you overpaid for all those items.

The wand and lantern were 10 drops originally.  Probably not many people picked them, hence availability may be lower than other items.

The quiver was available in bountiful supply on most shards, given the event got started off on an interesting foot (tons of spawn in a small area).

Glad to see the yukio earrings.

If anything, more prior items could be added.  "Katakotl ring" would be one.

I doubt these were overpaid considering availability on GL.  I bought the lantern a while back but the wand was recently.  Even I had paid half of the cost, the price is still going to be significantly lower.

In the end, the event is two months.  The spawn is a huge flop.

Guess I’ll see how the rest goes tomorrow.

Oreogl said:

Arnold7 said:

Oreogl usually the price on items you paid a ton for does not change much during these events.  Have not done this one yet so won’t say anything else. Did not know it had started.

Example I paid 175m for a wand of warding. It’s now 10 eggs.  Same thing for lantern of protection.  Same thing for quiver although it’s 20 eggs.  I did the spawn for a few hours.  I can already get a couple of these things.  

The odds of the prices remaining what I paid for them are next to nil.  I’m debating on cancelling my accounts and playing for free.

When comparing prices you have to take into account the availability of the 'currency'. We already know that the number of drops from participation in the champ spawn is half what it has been in previous events. The prices of the rewards reflect this.

Mariah said:

Oreogl said:

Arnold7 said:

Oreogl usually the price on items you paid a ton for does not change much during these events.  Have not done this one yet so won’t say anything else. Did not know it had started.

Example I paid 175m for a wand of warding. It’s now 10 eggs.  Same thing for lantern of protection.  Same thing for quiver although it’s 20 eggs.  I did the spawn for a few hours.  I can already get a couple of these things.  

The odds of the prices remaining what I paid for them are next to nil.  I’m debating on cancelling my accounts and playing for free.

When comparing prices you have to take into account the availability of the 'currency'. We already know that the number of drops from participation in the champ spawn is half what it has been in previous events. The prices of the rewards reflect this.

Cool, you wanna buy a wand of warding on Great Lakes for 175m?

The wand and lantern were 10 drops at the introductory event.
That's 10-30m gold, assuming a range of 1m-3m per drop (depending on shard).

Whoever sold them for 175m made out like a bandit.  Don't feel bad, it happens 🙂

ForeverFun said:

The wand and lantern were 10 drops at the introductory event.
That's 10-30m gold, assuming a range of 1m-3m per drop (depending on shard).

Whoever sold them for 175m made out like a bandit.  Don't feel bad, it happens 🙂

I checked a few shards before buying they were all about the same.

I don’t know how long ago that event was but it must have been long enough to make the items scarce.  

Oreogl said:

Mariah said:

Oreogl said:

Arnold7 said:

Oreogl usually the price on items you paid a ton for does not change much during these events.  Have not done this one yet so won’t say anything else. Did not know it had started.

Example I paid 175m for a wand of warding. It’s now 10 eggs.  Same thing for lantern of protection.  Same thing for quiver although it’s 20 eggs.  I did the spawn for a few hours.  I can already get a couple of these things.  

The odds of the prices remaining what I paid for them are next to nil.  I’m debating on cancelling my accounts and playing for free.

When comparing prices you have to take into account the availability of the 'currency'. We already know that the number of drops from participation in the champ spawn is half what it has been in previous events. The prices of the rewards reflect this.

Cool, you wanna buy a wand of warding on Great Lakes for 175m?

Sorry I don't buy any of these items. I play the content to get them.

Mariah said:

Oreogl said:

Mariah said:

Oreogl said:

Arnold7 said:

Oreogl usually the price on items you paid a ton for does not change much during these events.  Have not done this one yet so won’t say anything else. Did not know it had started.

Example I paid 175m for a wand of warding. It’s now 10 eggs.  Same thing for lantern of protection.  Same thing for quiver although it’s 20 eggs.  I did the spawn for a few hours.  I can already get a couple of these things.  

The odds of the prices remaining what I paid for them are next to nil.  I’m debating on cancelling my accounts and playing for free.

When comparing prices you have to take into account the availability of the 'currency'. We already know that the number of drops from participation in the champ spawn is half what it has been in previous events. The prices of the rewards reflect this.

Cool, you wanna buy a wand of warding on Great Lakes for 175m?

Sorry I don't buy any of these items. I play the content to get them.

Don’t worry, I expected no other answer.

Do your research.

uo-cah.com has all the past events and reward choices.

The shield orb works just as well as the lantern, too.

ForeverFun said:

Do your research.

uo-cah.com has all the past events and reward choices.

The shield orb works just as well as the lantern, too.

The shield orb is craftable, what’s your point?

do me a favor and check to see what the prices are and if you can find a lantern or wand, and see how much.

The lantern and wand are transmog targets, as can be the shield orb.

The cost basis of the lantern and wand were no more than 30m gold, effectively.  Even less if you consider the price of drops tapers off near the end of the event.  It was your choice to pay 175m.  That's the going price of many 10+ year veteran reward picks.

Like Larisa, I collected my own during the events.  I would not have paid over the cost basis gold amount in this case, either.  Vendor search is not the only way to buy items, and the price listed there is not definitive.

That has zero to do with what I’m talking about.

youre making up numbers perhaps based
on when they first came out. Because they’re transmogrified items, supply clearly went down sending the price up.

the fact you’re trying to negate the discussion because you think I overpaid, doesn’t even matter.  It’s simple supply economics.  

Oreogl said:

ForeverFun said:

The wand and lantern were 10 drops at the introductory event.
That's 10-30m gold, assuming a range of 1m-3m per drop (depending on shard).

Whoever sold them for 175m made out like a bandit.  Don't feel bad, it happens 🙂

I checked a few shards before buying they were all about the same.

I don’t know how long ago that event was but it must have been long enough to make the items scarce.  

I blame shard bound for this.  @popps should buy them for 175M from you.

There was enough good stuff in Wildfire for players only to buy what they needed in those.

No reason for posters to be jumping you..

These new Yukio's will be shard bound.

You valued the wand/lantern on par with a house teleporter tile set, when you paid 175m.

the value of the lantern/wand goes down once you transmog onto it (one time operation).  That's like when you drive a new car off a car lot.  The house teleporter tile set doesn't depreciate like that.  One of those items is not worth 175m.

Just do more research next time.   

Boy he'd be really angry if stuff was added to black market

Deco value is what the player who wants it, values it at.


And anyone can get tele tiles right now.

ForeverFun said:

You valued the wand/lantern on par with a house teleporter tile set, when you paid 175m.

the value of the lantern/wand goes down once you transmog onto it (one time operation).  That's like when you drive a new car off a car lot.  The house teleporter tile set doesn't depreciate like that.  One of those items is not worth 175m.

Just do more research next time.   

Look these aren’t transmorged yet, the value would be the same.  I’m going to be nice and say we should simply disagree on this.

this is no one’s fault but mine for subbing to a 25 year old game with only one dev who seems to care.  

I'm really glad the Wand and Lantern are back actually.

They are items I had pushed really hard to get ingame for my mages, then I completely missed the event when they did come out, completely gutted.

I'll be going for them, and making my mages look the part now 🙂

Had the Transmog flasks sat ready for ages, just missed the original key event. My characters are prepped and ready for this one 🙂

In fact - happy with a few of the rewards, I'm good with the reward list, a chance for me to stock up on stuff I missed.

Cookie said:

I'm really glad the Wand and Lantern are back actually.

They are items I had pushed really hard to get ingame for my mages, then I completely missed the event when they did come out, completely gutted.

I'll be going for them, and making my mages look the part now 🙂

Had the Transmog flasks sat ready for ages, just missed the original key event. My characters are prepped and ready for this one 🙂

In fact - happy with a few of the rewards, I'm good with the reward list, a chance for me to stock up on stuff I missed.

I get it, I was in the same boat.  Missed the events that had them and grinded in game to get the gold, while being a casual player.  Time down the drain I guess.  

1. The  quiver I price fairly often and it has always been between about 125 to 179 million on GL.  Think it was around 150 ingots give or take 25 at the last event.  Believe the wand of warding and lantern were around 30 ingots each so would expect them to sell for less but to be honest never priced them much.  If eggs are hard to get selling them might be a good option.  Usually drops sell quickly for higher prices at the beginning of an event.

AFAIK, the wand and lantern settled at a price of 10 drops each.  Most people I know who picked those did it for transmog purposes - in fact, I think some feedback here led to the creation of those items.

Those two items may have started at 25, but I think they got adjusted down.  Still would be a large gap to get to 175M in gold equivalence, even if 25 drops per.

The 1-3m gold per drop has been pretty constant pricing going back several events/years, if you want to do price comparison.  You can see higher prices than 3m per drop for collector items, things like bone helmets, female plate, etc.

It will be interesting to see what the egg price settles at for this event.  They were going for 10-100K each near the end of the last event.

ForeverFun said:

AFAIK, the wand and lantern settled at a price of 10 drops each.  Most people I know who picked those did it for transmog purposes - in fact, I think some feedback here led to the creation of those items.

Those two items may have started at 25, but I think they got adjusted down.  Still would be a large gap to get to 175M in gold equivalence, even if 25 drops per.

The 1-3m gold per drop has been pretty constant pricing going back several events/years, if you want to do price comparison.  You can see higher prices than 3m per drop for collector items, things like bone helmets, female plate, etc.

It will be interesting to see what the egg price settles at for this event.  They were going for 10-100K each near the end of the last event.

Just to close the gap for you, that event was 2 1/2 years ago and they were 25 ea. It’s not a hard stretch to make.

Arnold7 said:

1. The  quiver I price fairly often and it has always been between about 125 to 179 million on GL.  Think it was around 150 ingots give or take 25 at the last event.  Believe the wand of warding and lantern were around 30 ingots each so would expect them to sell for less but to be honest never priced them much.  If eggs are hard to get selling them might be a good option.  Usually drops sell quickly for higher prices at the beginning of an event.

The quiver was 80.

See what happens when the green thorns come into play.  

Oreogl said:

ForeverFun said:

AFAIK, the wand and lantern settled at a price of 10 drops each.  Most people I know who picked those did it for transmog purposes - in fact, I think some feedback here led to the creation of those items.

Those two items may have started at 25, but I think they got adjusted down.  Still would be a large gap to get to 175M in gold equivalence, even if 25 drops per.

The 1-3m gold per drop has been pretty constant pricing going back several events/years, if you want to do price comparison.  You can see higher prices than 3m per drop for collector items, things like bone helmets, female plate, etc.

It will be interesting to see what the egg price settles at for this event.  They were going for 10-100K each near the end of the last event.

Just to close the gap for you, that event was 2 1/2 years ago and they were 25 ea. It’s not a hard stretch to make.

I thought you said you missed the event.  I didn't miss the event.  Even if the items were 25 drops the entire event, that's at most 75M in gold equivalence.  That's a long way from 175M.

As Pawain notes - particularly for deco - you can assign whatever value you want.

For other players, it may be useful to have the 1-3M gold per (dungeon) drop in mind.  These events have provided a way for players to earn gold quickly.

ForeverFun said:

Oreogl said:

ForeverFun said:

AFAIK, the wand and lantern settled at a price of 10 drops each.  Most people I know who picked those did it for transmog purposes - in fact, I think some feedback here led to the creation of those items.

Those two items may have started at 25, but I think they got adjusted down.  Still would be a large gap to get to 175M in gold equivalence, even if 25 drops per.

The 1-3m gold per drop has been pretty constant pricing going back several events/years, if you want to do price comparison.  You can see higher prices than 3m per drop for collector items, things like bone helmets, female plate, etc.

It will be interesting to see what the egg price settles at for this event.  They were going for 10-100K each near the end of the last event.

Just to close the gap for you, that event was 2 1/2 years ago and they were 25 ea. It’s not a hard stretch to make.

I thought you said you missed the event.  I didn't miss the event.  Even if the items were 25 drops the entire event, that's at most 75M in gold equivalence.  That's a long way from 175M.

As Pawain notes - particularly for deco - you can assign whatever value you want.

For other players, it may be useful to have the 1-3M gold per (dungeon) drop in mind.  These events have provided a way for players to earn gold quickly.

I’m not sure why this is a struggle for you but regardless, I did miss the event.  I just looked it up, instead of applying random numbers and then telling someone else to “just do more research”.

see above comment(s) for the rest of your comments.

If you don't believe my quoted 1-3m per drop numbers, you can find (research) 10+ threads on this forum, where other people posted values of 1m per drop.   Trying to help you and others out, no need to post random numbers.

Likewise, if you don't believe the lantern and wand dropped to a cost of 10 points, then feel free to use 25 drops as the cost basis calculation.  Either way, far away from 175m in gold equivalence.

ForeverFun said:

If you don't believe my quoted 1-3m per drop numbers, you can find (research) 10+ threads on this forum, where other people posted values of 1m per drop.   Trying to help you and others out, no need to post random numbers.

Likewise, if you don't believe the lantern and wand dropped to a cost of 10 points, then feel free to use 25 drops as the cost basis calculation.  Either way, far away from 175m in gold equivalence.

It’s literally on their website.  Some people like to just argue I guess.

Can’t be mad at the devs because you paid a player’s price for an item.

dvvid said:

Can’t be mad at the devs because you paid a player’s price for an item.

I can tell you gave this a lot of thought.  Thank you. 

Oreogl said:

dvvid said:

Can’t be mad at the devs because you paid a player’s price for an item.

I can tell you gave this a lot of thought.  Thank you. 

Hell I paid $2k for a 286 computer with a 10M hard drive.  386 came out a few months later.

You got the item you wanted, that's all that matters.

i got this earlier along with this message when i ate it. has this been mentioned before?
i got another off of a Mud pie. 

Pawain said:

Oreogl said:

dvvid said:

Can’t be mad at the devs because you paid a player’s price for an item.

I can tell you gave this a lot of thought.  Thank you. 

Hell I paid $2k for a 286 computer with a 10M hard drive.  386 came out a few months later.

You got the item you wanted, that's all that matters.

I stand by what I said.  It was more the wasted time I spent getting the gear regardless of what I paid, which will takes a fraction of the time now.  Right now, I can get a couple of each.  That’s one day.  The actual play time doing it is significantly less.  Now, Add the thorns to this.

I will give anyone three guesses and a hint what happens to the price of an item when it’s recycled back into the game at a low price.

hint:  it doesn’t go up and it doesn’t stay the same.

Victim_Of_Siege said:

i got this earlier along with this message when i ate it. has this been mentioned before?
i got another off of a Mud pie. 

We got those at the Black Gate  of off some of the mob types.

“I have some, it’s actually a bug or ‘remnants’
they copied the spawn from prob Shame dungeon and it copies the dungeon crystal but it has no associated dungeon. 

What's the drop rate of the counterfeit eggs with Vorpal Bunnies? I've done 13 Thorns and no counterfeit eggs so far...  Or are we talking about 10 eggs per day which includes Champ Spawn and Thorns?

Necronom said:

What's the drop rate of the counterfeit eggs with Vorpal Bunnies? I've done 13 Thorns and no counterfeit eggs so far...  Or are we talking about 10 eggs per day which includes Champ Spawn and Thorns?

You need a Luck suit. 2400 is ok. 3600 better.

Pawain said:

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You need a Luck suit. 2400 is ok. 3600 better.

Ah, okay thanks Pawain.. I guess I'll use my Tamer in that case..

Necronom said:

Pawain said:

<snip>

You need a Luck suit. 2400 is ok. 3600 better.

Ah, okay thanks Pawain.. I guess I'll use my Tamer in that case..

@Pawain is right, you need luck.  I don't have the resources yet to make a high end luck suit and I am running with 500 luck and I am not disappointed by the drop rate.  I am guessing about 30 to 40% drop rate.

Kyronix said:

Yes - this is intended.  There are other ways to acquire the eggs.

It would be so much fun if there were lots of ways at once to find events treasure.

It would be so great to have diversity with these events and be able to use a variety of your favorite character types to get in on it. 

I'm sure it's much more difficult than I could imagine, to add treasure to multiple treasure dispenser systems all at once. That's the technical term, right? Treasure dispenser systems? LOL

But how fun would it be to grab a fisher and find eggs on serpents and in fished up chests. And on the pirate ships. And to find them in dug up chests. And, for the love of all that is holy, in spawn chests so we have more reason to use rogue skills. 

*sigh*

Imagine being mad you willing purchases an item knowing full well the dev cycle items randomly amongst different events. I for one think it’s good they are easy to get. It’s refreshing not having to grind 8 hours a day, or script to get items for once. Good job devs! Bring back ninja earrings please = )

Army said:

Imagine being mad you willing purchases an item knowing full well the dev cycle items randomly amongst different events. I for one think it’s good they are easy to get. It’s refreshing not having to grind 8 hours a day, or script to get items for once. Good job devs! Bring back ninja earrings please = )

Sooo, how many items would you say you’ve had to script?

no wonder you’re not mad  😂