i know many people presently running it with 3-4 accounts getting 200 eggs per hours
Afraid Gardners will cut into your monopoly?
I simply disagree the drop rate is perfect no need for change
Less grind / time spent is a huge improvement.
It may have taken 45 minutes in Hythloth to get enough points for a wand/lantern drop, but if bunnies allow that to be done in half that time, that's great.
if the rewards are cheap and bountiful for casual players, people who are selling those "professionally" will go out of business, right?
disagree. This is fun.
How does exactly does the drop rate hurt you?
"i selling drogueni spellbooks 10 mill"
Cheaters will cheat and abuse the drop rate for honest players feeling perfect
You posted what you felt needed adjustment did you really not expect others to do same.?
We do not know the cost of the items until the 3rd. Players with one account and no Luck suit will disagree with you creampuff.
Why cant players just mind there own business. Sounds like the OP is mad because he thinks he wont profit from the less fortunate in this event.
50 thorns 2465 + luck mostly by myself until i figured out how to use archer as well 57 eggs seem spot on to me. Honestly the bunny could use some beefing up Holmes would be embarrassed
Yeah I gotta say I think it's a positive that the rewards are cheaper. It will be tough for a new player with one account but you grind out 20 eggs, get some extra luck... grind out 25 more and get some more luck. You learn luck does actually matter. Buy up a few cheap lucky suit pieces and go kill rabbits which are not going to kill you. I think it just hurts new players to make the rewards so costly and hard to obtain without three different templates already maxed with uber gear plus a second account. I think they did okay with this one, both with making the rewards easier to obtain and choosing luck rewards that everyone needs to have in addition to combat gear.
Assuming the prices stay as advertised 🙂
Maybe the devs feel that it is time for everyone to be able to get the 50% spellbook and Yukios. And they tossed in a Luck item.
Notice the Balron Chest and Vambraces are not there.
Most of the items are deco.
The prices seem low but if there is no dungeon then they are spot on
I feel the eggs should not be shard bound because in order to get them, you need shard bound items. Most of us do not have the mask and other luck items on other shards we would like to play.
Psst... the human versions are there... Just hard to see.
I think the devs probably just think this time let's let anyone who wants to garden and fight bunnies get a few good items
A lot of players thought the funnest time in these events was the Pile in Destard.
Yesssssss. Just jack up all the spawns x3 in the whole abyss for drops. There's such a wide range of fame levels from first mobs to bosses and so many different types of creatures that any template could find an optimal spot to grind drops
From my understanding the spellbook will be 400 eggs
This thread makes me laugh.
no one could have possibly seen this coming. Lol
ahh the joys of being a Dev, no matter what ya do someone will whine and complain, i for one like it, they tryin to make it so cheaters aka multiboxers cant get rich off of this event, getting rich isnt what this event or UO is about but so many seem to think that it is.
So... I'm a returning player, and I would like to do this event. I just don't understand how people are getting 200 eggs an hour. I did the Ilsh spawn for about 2 hours (I usually only get about 45 minutes to an hour to play a day) and ended up with a single egg.
Is there something I am missing? Or a better location I should be doing this?
I put a green thorn in the ground. Sometimes I get an egg, sometimes I don't. Seems ok to me.
Dear OP,
The drop rate is fine because the rewards are shard-bound, which means it must be easier to get so that the shard has sufficient stocks to maintain for its population. So that the items doesn't become "rare" and overpriced.
If you want to reduce the drop rate, then the rewards MUST be NON-Shard bound.
Period.
I think it's going to be harder than people realise.
There are only so many green thorns, only a few players have a large stock, most dont have so many.
The idea of changing prices to make it better for a few players who stand to profit doesn't take into consideration the vast majority of players who don't have large stashes of green thorns or an abundance of time. Allowing for a greater amount of items to be gained from an event does nothing to hurt anyone but those who desire to profit from it.
I play on 3-4 shards so I welcome a greater egg drop and cheaper rewards so that I can outfit my characters with the shard bound gear. Unlike many, I do not sell the eggs/rewards but actually use them so I could care less if the market price drops.
Thanks for the offer Valeria, unfortunately I’m on Oceania
Why would someone ask for rewards to be harder to obtain for some? I get it- it is so easy for you to get this many eggs doing it for this amount of time. Great, but why would you care that those who struggle or who have less luck get rewards for lower egg amounts? So many times the rewards are for such a high amount that many casual players or even smaller shards rarely obtain them. So now they try to even it out and people don't like it? So many shards are a struggle to start out on. People either hoard items or ship them out to Atl. The only reason I can see that someone would scream raise the points needed is that person wants to be able to grab as many as they can and charge an arm and a leg to those that were unlucky or busy in life to get them. I also saw that someone was upset that they paid x amount for an item and this just devalues it.. welcome to life. I bought a tv 2 months ago full price-today it is half price.
its a slap in the face to anyone who did the original content, but thats UO. its always been like that. blackthorns dungeon hands out basically free artifacts when it took days / weeks to get the original. stuff is re-released. server births become worthless overnight from the same graphic being newly released. it sucks, but its just how UO is.
I've run the numbers for my personal situation, and if it goes how I think it is going to go - I think the Devs have got it spot on.
I started growing green thorns as soon as we knew about this, 2 months ago, I have 4 raised garden beds. I now have 860 thorns. In the 60 days of the event, at 16 days cycle, I will be able to complete 3 more harvests of 288 thorns, so a total of 1,724 green thorns.
My boys accounts, which are under 2 years old, I built tamers on them in the last few months, and I built luck suits for them in the last 2 months. Their tamers with a fully trained unscrolled blue beetle, and an untrained unscrolled nightmare, and mine on a fully scrolled and trained Cu have luck of 1600, 1500 and 3320 luck respectively using the Luck statues - so for our best results, we are limited to the 1 hour of Luck per day.
Today, we did our 1 Luck hour, 30 thorns, 1 Vorpal Bunny every 2 minutes = 60 eggs. 2 average per Vorpal, we split the damage 1/3 each of the 3 tamers.
Never got a 4 drop, got a couple of 3 drops, a couple of 1 drops, most were 2 egg drops each.
I think the boys Luck is a little light, but tbh, I'm happy with this.
1724 thorns / 30 used per luck hour, = 58 days solid to do them - there are 60 days in the event.
So, including today, 59 days, x 60 eggs (2 egg average) = 3,540 eggs.
3540 / 10 for hand-in ratio = 354 turn-in points / 25 points for Yukio's = a max potential of 14 pairs of Yukio Earrings for example.
And that is the calculation, using 1 hour, each day, for pretty much the whole event, gets an equivalent of 14 pairs of Yukio earrings, you can switch around of course, to get quiver, deco, spell book etc. I think that figure, for an average group of THREE players, is very reasonable, and will get the items we are after. (We will be sharing the approx 14 rewards between us)
I genuinely think, this post closes this argument. Not everyone has the thorns, the luck suits, the time, the characters to do this, the averages could be much lower for the whole population - some have a lot more.
It is amazing how complicated this Thorn part of the event is to some players.
I see a lot of confused players on LS.
Thorns have a limited supply, most players will not have endless numbers of thorns to plant 24/7.
3000+ luck suits aren’t falling from the sky, most players are lucky to have 1 per account.
Luck statue only lasts an hour.
10 eggs per spawn with a 30 minute respawn timer means 20 eggs per hour max.
I see enough limits here that I do not feel like it warrants raising the item points… the average player is still likely to have to invest some time to acquire enough eggs for several rewards. Yes, there will be some power games who get 5000 eggs, but I see no reason to punish the average player for it.
Prices are marked as listed on UO website... let the whining begin.
Well it looks like the Devs have decided to let us have these items for a very low price.
It took me many hours and resources to make Luck Suits.
I spent many hours on Vendor Search getting error messages.
I made another Luck Suit in exchange for 2000 thorns.
I am glad the Devs are giving us a reward for our time.
Thanks for not being stingy once!
I'm amazed tbh, did not expect this, but it takes all the stress out of the event, which is nice, and quite a few guildmates are very relieved about this. 🙂
One way to combat greed and Botters, make the items very low priced!
And make the majority of players happy at the same time!
No complaints here, I am loading up on Yukios since they are not shard bound and can spend a few hours playing pretty much every shard and having a couple quivers, wings, and spellbooks scattered around for when I get a wild hair to play on off shards from the regulars. Funniest comment I have seen today was "Selling Yukio Earrings 25M!! 150M Less than VS!!!" I love it.
Looks like everything but the eggs are shard bound.
The book is not shard bound. That is about it.
As a 1-account player, I am very happy how this is working out, and no thank you very much, it is fine like the way it is. ❤️
Atl eggs are going for 1 mil per. Makes getting what you want easy and affordable, buy eggs take them home and get what you want.
GL eggs going for 7 mil per. But expect price will go down in a week or so.
We aren't planning a dungeon this go round - there are some feedback points for dungeon style ToTs we need to address in our next publish before we go live with another dungeon ToT. In the meantime, hoppy hunting!
Treasures of Tokuno being enabled periodically, at random date ranges, seems fine.
That's another way to get the 300 luck mempo, flutes of renewal, dyes, and other goodies.
Even if people don't like Tokuno, participation would be optional, so little reason to poo-poo the idea.
ToT with new rewards would be awesome!
Overall like this event. Players can go to the main event or hunt rabbits to get eggs. Even though thorns sell for a fairly high price, 10 for 200k to 300k on my shard, and only give up eggs to players about 50% of the time based on my experience, You can still get the major prizes, if you did not have the foresight to plant snake plants, for a couple of million gold. When you consider that those prizes normally sell for over 100 million that is not a bad deal.
Would like to have seen eggs being distributed to players from the first two waves of the swarm like in the Wind event. Like the boots at the end. They will always sell well.
Would like to see some events like the Invasion and Tokuno events repeated. Also, don’t mind seeing some of the better rewards, like the earrings, repeated so players have another opportunity to get them. Got something I really wanted for a long time from this event. Would agree with others though the list could have been a little longer.
Also think the thorns was a good idea. Everyone can grow them in time to use them. I started growing mine just a couple of days ago. Had a few thorns in a chest and bought a few, and did the main event a few times to get what I wanted. Think you get the best results from the thorns if you do them with friends.
Why are all these recycled items not available through black market?
Right now it seems like UO is played so vendors can make money rather than for simple entertainment look at how affordable yukio earrings have become
Kinda what happens when there hasn't been any consistent brand new content to explore (cookie cutter dynamic events are the same thing just different rewards). For those that have been around for a long time and have all the skills or done all the end game content the only thing left is collect new rewards... when they get what they need they sell the rest for a profit.
I completely agree the current situation has created a lot of sharks but the guppies (returning player and mythical new players) suffer and leave
On lower population shards with just a few players doing the spawns all the good stuff is in reach of newer players. Would assume that anyway. On my shard I have no problem getting enough eggs for what I wanted. Did not get lots of stuff but got what I could use. Don’t know about Atlantic but for players on the other shards, and that includes newer players, this is a good opportunity to get some of the goof stuff.
I look forward to next years changes to combat scripting, the way this years changes were implemented because of last years....rinse/repeat/vomit..
Counterfeit tags aren't the same as original. Same stats but different value to players.
Shard bound sucks. Period. For some of these shards the cross farmers are the only action they ever see.
then peeps just jump to other shards and eat scroll ... But that would boost sells of transfer tokens to those that don't have shard shields... But the rtm cites would get most those sells .....
Powerscrolls (or anything for that matter) would make zero sense this late in the game.
If all players could travel UO would not need shard bound. But as long there two classes of players, one that can travel and one that cannot, players with shard shields that allow them to freely travel from shard to shard just provides too much of an advantage to those players in terms of acquisition and sales. This was made apparent during the invasion event during COVID when most of the better and harder to get invasion books offered for sale ended up on Atlantic. I appreciate that UO goes out of it’s way to support it’s long term players, but when that support negatively affects my play I have to draw a line. I think if long term players would not object it would be simple enough for UO to find another way to accommodate subscription players who have not played for 14 years to resolve this issue but so far it has been reluctant to do so. But UO at least recognizes now that the unrestricted shard some players enjoy is an issue and is trying to deal with it. I do give UO credit for that.
Seeing these Drogeni books for 10mil on vendors that took one character at least 3 hours previously is a kick in the genitals, not to mention the Plinths that can be obtained in 1 rabbit kill that previously took 10 points.
Really sad they couldn't have at least made the rewards at least a different name + color.
Did you know it's rares collectors buying up all the wildlife mask and cutting them into cloth
So, I should not transmog mine so I can sell them for plats later? Well darn, they so ugly.
Time to put a stop to this.
