I just wanted to express my support to the Developers about the no damage penalty for being AFK in ToT Deceit.
Finally something done to address BOTs left bashing MoBs AFK in ToT Dungeons to farm for drops.
Thank you !!
Wait till you get hit with it when you are just playing normally. Had a crap day and are hoping to get some drops during your hour of playtime so you try a potion. Using a samp and enhanced.
I sit outside the dungeon many hours, go in and kill a paragon at the entry once in a while. There is no afk timer. Yall are getting paged on.
“I know people who run bots (the ones that move around)
I haven’t heard any reports of it affecting them.
so I’m not sure how it works.”
Other people that claim this happened to them are also moving around. So it would seem there is a flag and no one actually checks. I guess they feel 30 mins is not significant enough to warrant GM involvement.
Then you have the bots who a poster has claimed to own that are attended and have not got this time out.
Its like RL 500 people are speeding and 1 gets pulled over.
I got hit with the AFK flag once too for seemingly no reason, but I still support the efforts to address some of the botting. This has been long overdue and the last event was particularly bad with the AFK/follower bots farming and screwing up spawn.
It's not a perfect solution, but it's a step in the right direction after hearing feedback for years that this needed to be addressed.
I could be wrong but if you page a GM when it happens, do they remove it?? Or are you stuck like that for the entire duration (30min?)
I realize that this is unfortunately hitting some who are not AFK and perhaps even some sitting outside the dungeon but have to say it's far past the time that they started attempting something like this to curb AFK and Botters. I do hope they continue to refine it and even expand their efforts to clean up game play. In the meantime, 30 minutes isn't the end of the world yes it truly does suck if it happens with a potion running but regardless it's a start.
Decided to test this:
Not going into the details but being still for long periods in the dungeon does not flag you.
Yall are getting paged on.
so in conclusion, my advice to other players who've been unfairly penalized with an AFK ban for however long, think carefully about anyone who has a personal grudge with you, they're most likely the ones pagng/flagging you *intentionally* - oh, and don't worry, you should completely assume the person with the personal grudge has the full cooperation of the GMs (and by extension, the devs & Broadsword)
One question I'd have for everyone that is getting hit for AFK is where are you primarily playing in Deceit?
If it's near the entrance on level 1 just stay away from there. I don't even bother with level 1 because that is where most of the scripters seem to be (I'm guessing because it's close enough to the healer if they end up dying vs level 4). Talking strictly ATL, if you check out that first area near the entrance or the jail cells area you will still find people auto following with 2-3 archers/throwers and auto attacking whatever spawns. They move back froth across the hallway. Jail cells they don't seem to be AFK but they use 1 or 2 extra accounts to attack everything and the scripts are obvious because they literally open every single door they run pass without stopping and without even facing them.
I typically play level 2-4 where there are fewer places where a scripter can camp. It does make it a little harder to get drops depending on how many people are on but I have also been on a couple times where everyone seems to be on level 1 and I do pretty good. I have yet to be hit with the no damage thing but I think it's pretty obvious I'm not a bot/afk when I'm running around in wraith mode spamming area spells and actually stopping to fight paragons and curing/healing others that help (not much of a rush this event since I'm not using potions).
Interesting reading.
Couple of comments.
Yes, regarding the best bots, you just cannot tell the difference between them and a normal player anymore. Except to say, they play better than a normal player. A lot of them, they are players you thought were real players, you just thought they were good...
Kevin - Scripters don't camp anymore.
Unknown_Ghost - unlucky, it sounds pretty bad - a little part of me wonders if there is something you are not saying, but you could also be right in what you say.
I've not been hit by this AFK fix yet - maybe because I have not played AFK, I almost never do, I do sit AFK outside of Deceit, when I need to go AFK, I park my character outside Deceit until I get back to hunt again, I think it would be harsh to hit those players. So from my perspective it seems to be working.
I do wonder a little about the integrity of some GM's - or their bias, and I don't want to disrespect the great ones out there, and I think it is very helpful of Mariah to address this concern head-on with advice, although, if this were happening, it is one of those very vague things you cannot prove anyway, a bit like botting etc, you can all tell it's happening by the micro differences in playstyle, but you cannot prove anything.
In terms of supporting it, it does not bother me as a player. I guess the line for me, is when an innocent player is affected by anti-cheat mechanics, which can happen, then I wish there were a better fix, I have no issues with the Devs trying to maintain a certain amount of order. 🙂
As far as being flagged for afk: I haven't once had it happen to me. I have, however, had monsters teleport on top of me when I am clearly in motion (and not scripting at all. I've been killing everything on a tamer)
If it's indeed flagging normal players then it's bad and needs to be changed.
I wonder how many legit players will quit now?
Me too been playing alot since deciet came out and no problems...
