ARMY OF SAMPIRES Atlantic Deceit Lvl 1 - MAKE ALL DROPS ACCT BOUND NOW

Army of sampires running around with the same script massacring everything. Same pattern, run in this room, run to entrance, etc. Running almost perfect square-for-square script no pause 23/7 a day.

Hahah, this ToT is a joke, wow, almost like I said this was happening and will continue to happen in these ToTs.

Don't believe me? Go to level 1 deceit right now and check it out.   





Something spawns and it's immediately swarmed by about 6-9 sampires with inhuman reactions.



LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Wouldn’t happen in Fel…

Skittlez1337 said:

Wouldn’t happen in Fel…

You mean it would be even worse with the champ spawn LOL just like last time, nice try

Skittlez1337 said:

Wouldn’t happen in Fel…

An army of sampires attacking the same target would kill the sampires?  More like they would kill all the players.

@username did you page on them?  Have you not been reading the forums talking about all the time outs GM have been giving?

Army of samps or no…I’d be thrilled if the drops were account bound if it meant the prizes you got for turning the drops in were account bound too. 

yeah, Page the GM. They might just be a guild of players.

“I saw Lynk’s sampire bots, 
this actually would and did still happen in fel because the bots would automatically res up at the NPC and return, there was no point killing them because all the drops were auto insurable. Yeah you would kill bots 10 times but get bored after a while - no point killing them if can’t loot any of the drops. 

Radst said:

Seth, you really need to STOP posting junk all day. Why would you assume "might be a guild"?

Oh wait, let me fix that for ya: 3 of them dead and now standing on the same tile casting Vamp nonstop. Bad script and AFK.

Did you page on them?  Pretty obvious and its a paid account that will be actioned.

Radst said:

You guys really need to stop being forum cheerleaders / police.

Hello Moderators, please LIMIT the # of posts anyone can post per day, ie:  max 5 or 10 posts a day.

So if you don't care if they are cheating why come here and complain? 

Why didnt you page on them?  Get all the names and take a few mins to file a report.  I saw loads on the first few days. I guess is they only a heat when they think the GM’s are asleep.   

Skittlez1337 said:

Wouldn’t happen in Fel…

A really good script writer, if they wanted to, would lay waste to all of Felucca, please don't be this naive.

Radst said:

Seth, you really need to STOP posting junk all day. Why would you assume "might be a guild"?

Oh wait, let me fix that for ya: 3 of them dead and now standing on the same tile casting Vamp nonstop. Bad script and AFK.

Bad script writers are the best comic relief.

Radst said:

Seth, you really need to STOP posting junk all day. Why would you assume "might be a guild"?

Oh wait, let me fix that for ya: 3 of them dead and now standing on the same tile casting Vamp nonstop. Bad script and AFK.

Then @Radst why on earth do you post these garbage here, this is not the place to report illegal activities. What do u expect all of us readers to do? You want us to Ban them?

Seth said:

Radst said:

Seth, you really need to STOP posting junk all day. Why would you assume "might be a guild"?

Oh wait, let me fix that for ya: 3 of them dead and now standing on the same tile casting Vamp nonstop. Bad script and AFK.

Then @ Radst why on earth do you post these garbage here, this is not the place to report illegal activities. What do u expect all of us readers to do? You want us to Ban them?

  

 😂 

Page on the rune blockers, or gate them to your house in fel.  You were just going home to drop off your rewards.

“hmm let me see what I can do…
it would be a real bit of bad luck if they ended up in a city, and that city then turned under VvV siege”

Pawain said:

 😂 

Page on the rune blockers, or gate them to your house in fel.  You were just going home to drop off your rewards.

The thing is that its against tos and you can be sanctioned who wants to risk it

Gate to a repond area since it's the opposite slayer of undead. 

"can't gate to fel, even a town, but yeah i can do something snazzy in tram, yes can get them killed for sure"

Yoshi said:

"can't gate to fel, even a town, but yeah i can do something snazzy in tram, yes can get them killed for sure"

Sure you can:



But I guess they have to have the fel warning gump turned off or they don't go in.

McDougle said:

Pawain said:

 😂 

Page on the rune blockers, or gate them to your house in fel.  You were just going home to drop off your rewards.

The thing is that its against tos and you can be sanctioned who wants to risk it

Gating to your house to turn in drops is not illegal.  Blocking runes is.

Pawain said:

Yoshi said:

"can't gate to fel, even a town, but yeah i can do something snazzy in tram, yes can get them killed for sure"

Sure you can:



But I guess they have to have the fel warning gump turned off or they don't go in.

McDougle said:

Pawain said:

 😂 

Page on the rune blockers, or gate them to your house in fel.  You were just going home to drop off your rewards.

The thing is that its against tos and you can be sanctioned who wants to risk it

Gating to your house to turn in drops is not illegal.  Blocking runes is.

Gating someone else against thier will is and are we really to believe people who can write scripts to do champ spawn from start to finish are going to fall for this

McDougle said:

Pawain said:

Yoshi said:

"can't gate to fel, even a town, but yeah i can do something snazzy in tram, yes can get them killed for sure"

Sure you can:



But I guess they have to have the fel warning gump turned off or they don't go in.

McDougle said:

Pawain said:

 😂 

Page on the rune blockers, or gate them to your house in fel.  You were just going home to drop off your rewards.

The thing is that its against tos and you can be sanctioned who wants to risk it

Gating to your house to turn in drops is not illegal.  Blocking runes is.

Gating someone else against thier will is and are we really to believe people who can write scripts to do champ spawn from start to finish are going to fall for this

He said he was already gating them to tram.  You choose to walk into a gate. You can turn.  If you are not afk.

  

 😂   And you get the satisfaction of the pet dying.  Win Win for you.

That is hilarious. Serves the botters right

Yoshi said:

"covetous level 3 tram is more fun than deceit"

  Perfect! That was the first place i thought of as well LOL

Maybe @Kyronix can weigh in on the legality 

"a GM gave me a slap on the wrist and said not to..."

Yoshi said:

"a GM gave me a slap on the wrist and said not to..."

What did he say about the Sampire army?  Well at least you are keeping them at the keyboard.

Took one for the team. 

Yoshi said:

"a GM gave me a slap on the wrist and said not to..."

Nothing a brand new unlinked EJ account with imbued +mage jewels won't fix. 

CovenantX said:

Urge said:

Yoshi said:

"a GM gave me a slap on the wrist and said not to..."

Nothing a brand new unlinked EJ account with imbued +mage jewels won't fix. 

Hehe, I was going to say the same thing.

Give em a taste of their own medicine as they say.

Sadly, it shouldn't have to come to that though.

If scripting is still viewed as illegal and the GMs won't do work then i see nothing wrong with allowing players to get creative. 

No opinion on any of this except I'd like consistency from the forum mods @Rorschach

CovenantX said:

Sadly, it shouldn't have to come to that though.

Sad, but true. The DEVS and GMS won't do anything and players should not having to waste their time with this at all.

It's great that they were all be able to be gated out and killed but you know all their items are insured and you know they'll just update their script to avoid gates (they did in Wildfire, Hythloth, etc.). Again, great it was done, but unless we're going to do it on all 24 how many ever shards there are 24/7 well yeaaaaah not much was 'fixed' and technically it's harassment. I'm a big fan of fixing the issue not slapping a bandaid on it which is why we need CHANGE in the form of account bound items for all, or at least the option with reduced priced rewards (10 instead of 50) so we can transfer our own items. Wow, what an idea, being able to use our items as we wish without this shard bound trash.

Yoshi said:

"covetous level 3 tram is more fun than deceit"

Account bound would just lead to all this botting being done on shards other than atlantic.  They would script this badboy 24/7 with less competition and transfer everything back to ATL. 

Kaz said:

Account bound would just lead to all this botting being done on shards other than atlantic.  They would script this badboy 24/7 with less competition and transfer everything back to ATL. 

Shard bound all the way.  Play local, farm local or buy local.


 What the profitability in farming account bound items?

Kaz said:

Account bound would just lead to all this botting being done on shards other than atlantic.  They would script this badboy 24/7 with less competition and transfer everything back to ATL. 

Shard bound all the way.  Play local, farm local or buy local. 

What lol you seriously think these people are botting for their own item stash? LOL
They're farming to sell. 
They can't sell? They won't play. 
What's so hard to understand?

PlayerSkillFTW said:

Because the items are Shard Bound, not every server is heavily script farmed like Atlantic is. For example, i can farm the Lvl 4 Crypts on Napa and not see another soul for hours.

Which has been my point from day 1. Not all shards are created equal and unfortunately for those that call ATL "home" we have to deal with more people/botters/scipters/etc. It's only right that ATL be given more spawn to work with or open Fel.

Fact is, 75% of the others shards like Napa simply do not need more spawn or Fel open but you have the whiners on here saying "but it's not fair we don't get what ATL gets". Sad that those cry babies are dictating how the event runs on the most populated shard in the game because they think their dead shard should be treated the same.

/rant

keven2002 said:

PlayerSkillFTW said:

Because the items are Shard Bound, not every server is heavily script farmed like Atlantic is. For example, i can farm the Lvl 4 Crypts on Napa and not see another soul for hours.

Which has been my point from day 1. Not all shards are created equal and unfortunately for those that call ATL "home" we have to deal with more people/botters/scipters/etc. It's only right that ATL be given more spawn to work with or open Fel.

Fact is, 75% of the others shards like Napa simply do not need more spawn or Fel open but you have the whiners on here saying "but it's not fair we don't get what ATL gets". Sad that those cry babies are dictating how the event runs on the most populated shard in the game because they think their dead shard should be treated the same.

/rant

We all pay the same your pvp/Atlantic play is no more deserving than Origin cats or pac

Pawain said:

Skittlez1337 said:

Wouldn’t happen in Fel…

An army of sampires attacking the same target would kill the sampires?  More like they would kill all the players.

My favorite is when trammies like this have no idea how to kill a group of samps. If that is the case why wouldn’t more people just use bots to PvP, way to many variables.

Urge said:

Yoshi said:

"a GM gave me a slap on the wrist and said not to..."

Nothing a brand new unlinked EJ account with imbued +mage jewels won't fix. 

"good idea, i (i mean an anonymous EJ player) has some grand plans for a congregation of bots, watch this space for some more fun"

Garth_Grey said:

Skittlez1337 said:

Wouldn’t happen in Fel…

A really good script writer, if they wanted to, would lay waste to all of Felucca, please don't be this naive.

Naive, the only one naive is you. I’ll take a good mage against the best script. I’ll kill 10 samps running the best script you can find. I’d only cast less than 6 spells and have them all dead. Para fields, poison fields, walls, meteor swarms ez money. Only done it a hundred times.

username said:

Kaz said:

Account bound would just lead to all this botting being done on shards other than atlantic.  They would script this badboy 24/7 with less competition and transfer everything back to ATL. 

Shard bound all the way.  Play local, farm local or buy local. 

What lol you seriously think these people are botting for their own item stash? LOL
They're farming to sell. 
They can't sell? They won't play. 
What's so hard to understand?

You don't think that having an army of well geared bots on all the shards wouldn't be profitable for someone with inclining to do what's been going on in the ToT events?  That they couldn't use such resources to farm profitable stuff? I could think of several ways that would be extremely profitable... just saying.

Also, if your solution were to be implemented, where would that leave this content? An event that you get the 5-6 items you want in the first couple weeks, then a dead dungeon for 6 weeks (except for the bots that I think will still be there)?  What about folks trying to help players who aren't good at farming this type of content (we do this during the last weeks of all these events), how would they do that?
Where would that leave the players that aren't on for this one? Have to wait a year to for the items to be re-cycled on an event?  No way to purchase them?  What if they don't get recycled at all?

Listen I get what you're saying, and I get why its appealing, but overall its a bandaid in itself.  A treatment of a symptom rather than the disease, and creates further issues downstream (whether you wish to admit it not).

Skittlez1337 said:

Naive, the only one naive is you. I’ll take a good mage against the best script. I’ll kill 10 samps running the best script you can find. I’d only cast less than 6 spells and have them all dead. Para fields, poison fields, walls, meteor swarms ez money. Only done it a hundred times.

Do it without a 3rd party client. You're nothing without your cheat crutch holding you up.

Skittlez1337 said:

Garth_Grey said:

Skittlez1337 said:

Wouldn’t happen in Fel…

A really good script writer, if they wanted to, would lay waste to all of Felucca, please don't be this naive.

Naive, the only one naive is you. I’ll take a good mage against the best script. I’ll kill 10 samps running the best script you can find. I’d only cast less than 6 spells and have them all dead. Para fields, poison fields, walls, meteor swarms ez money. Only done it a hundred times.

Of course you will.....

Skittlez1337 said:

Garth_Grey said:

Skittlez1337 said:

Wouldn’t happen in Fel…

A really good script writer, if they wanted to, would lay waste to all of Felucca, please don't be this naive.

Naive, the only one naive is you. I’ll take a good mage against the best script. I’ll kill 10 samps running the best script you can find. I’d only cast less than 6 spells and have them all dead. Para fields, poison fields, walls, meteor swarms ez money. Only done it a hundred times.

Glad I have my waders on because the bullcrap is getting deep in here.

“Skittles is not exaggerating, bots no match for players at all.

only reason they were allowed to continue at wildfire event was because there was literally no point killing them, all drops auto insured and the bots programmed to res and return, waste of mana. And they don’t even rage at you in general chat which is the main objective for killing”

PlayerSkillFTW said:

Yoshi said:

"covetous level 3 tram is more fun than deceit"

LMFAO! Would've been even better if the spawn that day was Repond. Watch them get squished by Titan Rockhurlers. 😂

Urge said:

If scripting is still viewed as illegal and the GMs won't do work then i see nothing wrong with allowing players to get creative. 

Exactly. This game is a sandbox. It was built upon the very idea of players being able to police themselves. That as PK guilds would rise up, so too would anti-PK guilds.

username said:

Again, great it was done, but unless we're going to do it on all 24 how many ever shards there are 24/7 well yeaaaaah not much was 'fixed' and technically it's harassment. I'm a big fan of fixing the issue not slapping a bandaid on it which is why we need CHANGE in the form of account bound items for all, or at least the option with reduced priced rewards (10 instead of 50) so we can transfer our own items. Wow, what an idea, being able to use our items as we wish without this shard bound trash.

Because the items are Shard Bound, not every server is heavily script farmed like Atlantic is. For example, i can farm the Lvl 4 Crypts on Napa and not see another soul for hours.

Exactly. This game is a sandbox. It was built upon the very idea of players being able to police themselves. That as PK guilds would rise up, so too would anti-PK guilds.

Kaz said:

Account bound would just lead to all this botting being done on shards other than atlantic.  They would script this badboy 24/7 with less competition and transfer everything back to ATL. 

Shard bound all the way.  Play local, farm local or buy local. 

Shard bound all the way.  Play local, farm local or buy local. 

Absolutely.

Shard bound, me thinks, has been the best thing to happen for lower population Shards other then Atlantic in years...........

username said:

Kaz said:

Account bound would just lead to all this botting being done on shards other than atlantic.  They would script this badboy 24/7 with less competition and transfer everything back to ATL. 

Shard bound all the way.  Play local, farm local or buy local. 

What lol you seriously think these people are botting for their own item stash? LOL
They're farming to sell. 
They can't sell? They won't play. 
What's so hard to understand?

Please correct me if I am mistaken but I seemed to understand, that they are account bound as long as the account is Endless Journey.....

When the account gets subscribed, the account bound limitation goes away and the item becomes only shard bound, no longer also account bound....

So, I imagine, some among these players might farm a go-go with endless journey accounts and pile up all these drops as account bound, then, when they are done, subscribe for 1 month, have the account bound tag be removed, then go back to endless journey but enjoy the now no longer account bound items.....

Assuming that some among these players might sell then these items, over the span of the Event how many might they be able to gather worth how many Platinums in total ?

For the cost of 1 month subscription, it does not look like too much to me....

I mean, say that they can run their scripts 24/7 or at least for many, many hours a day, and get hundreds of drops per day, that can mean, over the span of the Event quite many Platinums worth of items which can have their account bound tag removed, as I have understood it, by just subscribing that EJ account for 1 month and then, once the items have had their account bound limitation removed, revert it to a free, EJ account and get to keep the no longer account bound items to sell them....

Still a lot profitable, it looks to me....

Different would it be, if the account bound limitation was to "stay" even if the EJ account was to be turned into a subscribed account.... then, the profitabily would indeed go away.

popps said:

username said:

Kaz said:

Account bound would just lead to all this botting being done on shards other than atlantic.  They would script this badboy 24/7 with less competition and transfer everything back to ATL. 

Shard bound all the way.  Play local, farm local or buy local. 

What lol you seriously think these people are botting for their own item stash? LOL
They're farming to sell. 
They can't sell? They won't play. 
What's so hard to understand?

Please correct me if I am mistaken but I seemed to understand, that they are account bound as long as the account is Endless Journey.....

When the account gets subscribed, the account bound limitation goes away and the item becomes only shard bound, no longer also account bound....

So, I imagine, some among these players might farm a go-go with endless journey accounts and pile up all these drops as account bound, then, when they are done, subscribe for 1 month, have the account bound tag be removed, then go back to endless journey but enjoy the now no longer account bound items.....

Assuming that some among these players might sell then these items, over the span of the Event how many might they be able to gather worth how many Platinums in total ?

For the cost of 1 month subscription, it does not look like too much to me....

I mean, say that they can run their scripts 24/7 or at least for many, many hours a day, and get hundreds of drops per day, that can mean, over the span of the Event quite many Platinums worth of items which can have their account bound tag removed, as I have understood it, by just subscribing that EJ account for 1 month and then, once the items have had their account bound limitation removed, revert it to a free, EJ account and get to keep the no longer account bound items to sell them....

Still a lot profitable, it looks to me....

Different would it be, if the account bound limitation was to "stay" even if the EJ account was to be turned into a subscribed account.... then, the profitabily would indeed go away.

Go read the patch notes @popps

popps said:

Please correct me if I am mistaken but I seemed to understand, that they are account bound as long as the account is Endless Journey.....

You are mistaken. Details are in the publish notes, and on the event page.

McDougle said:

keven2002 said:

PlayerSkillFTW said:

Because the items are Shard Bound, not every server is heavily script farmed like Atlantic is. For example, i can farm the Lvl 4 Crypts on Napa and not see another soul for hours.

Which has been my point from day 1. Not all shards are created equal and unfortunately for those that call ATL "home" we have to deal with more people/botters/scipters/etc. It's only right that ATL be given more spawn to work with or open Fel.

Fact is, 75% of the others shards like Napa simply do not need more spawn or Fel open but you have the whiners on here saying "but it's not fair we don't get what ATL gets". Sad that those cry babies are dictating how the event runs on the most populated shard in the game because they think their dead shard should be treated the same.

/rant

We all pay the same your pvp/Atlantic play is no more deserving than Origin cats or pac

Difference is that we could shut down Origin and keep the game going. My guess is that there are probably some free shards out there that have more of a population than Origin (outside of EM events). Go look at your Deceit event. It's almost completely empty. 

Compare that to ATL which basically is UO. If they were to shut down ATL they would be shutting down the game.

keven2002 said:

McDougle said:

keven2002 said:

PlayerSkillFTW said:

Because the items are Shard Bound, not every server is heavily script farmed like Atlantic is. For example, i can farm the Lvl 4 Crypts on Napa and not see another soul for hours.

Which has been my point from day 1. Not all shards are created equal and unfortunately for those that call ATL "home" we have to deal with more people/botters/scipters/etc. It's only right that ATL be given more spawn to work with or open Fel.

Fact is, 75% of the others shards like Napa simply do not need more spawn or Fel open but you have the whiners on here saying "but it's not fair we don't get what ATL gets". Sad that those cry babies are dictating how the event runs on the most populated shard in the game because they think their dead shard should be treated the same.

/rant

We all pay the same your pvp/Atlantic play is no more deserving than Origin cats or pac

Difference is that we could shut down Origin and keep the game going. My guess is that there are probably some free shards out there that have more of a population than Origin (outside of EM events). Go look at your Deceit event. It's almost completely empty. 

Compare that to ATL which basically is UO. If they were to shut down ATL they would be shutting down the game.

Not true everyone would just go back home..

McDougle said:

keven2002 said:

McDougle said:

keven2002 said:

PlayerSkillFTW said:

Because the items are Shard Bound, not every server is heavily script farmed like Atlantic is. For example, i can farm the Lvl 4 Crypts on Napa and not see another soul for hours.

Which has been my point from day 1. Not all shards are created equal and unfortunately for those that call ATL "home" we have to deal with more people/botters/scipters/etc. It's only right that ATL be given more spawn to work with or open Fel.

Fact is, 75% of the others shards like Napa simply do not need more spawn or Fel open but you have the whiners on here saying "but it's not fair we don't get what ATL gets". Sad that those cry babies are dictating how the event runs on the most populated shard in the game because they think their dead shard should be treated the same.

/rant

We all pay the same your pvp/Atlantic play is no more deserving than Origin cats or pac

Difference is that we could shut down Origin and keep the game going. My guess is that there are probably some free shards out there that have more of a population than Origin (outside of EM events). Go look at your Deceit event. It's almost completely empty. 

Compare that to ATL which basically is UO. If they were to shut down ATL they would be shutting down the game.

Not true everyone would just go back home..

More delusional posts by you. There are many players, as well as myself, that have called ATL home since 97 and would no longer have a home. They would leave and that would be the final nail the UO coffin. If so many people called other shards home then why are there so many event transactions on my shard for items that are all shard bound? 

Now shew - go back to your cave little troll boy or to the beach to rebury your head in the sand.

keven2002 said:

McDougle said:

keven2002 said:

McDougle said:

keven2002 said:

PlayerSkillFTW said:

Because the items are Shard Bound, not every server is heavily script farmed like Atlantic is. For example, i can farm the Lvl 4 Crypts on Napa and not see another soul for hours.

Which has been my point from day 1. Not all shards are created equal and unfortunately for those that call ATL "home" we have to deal with more people/botters/scipters/etc. It's only right that ATL be given more spawn to work with or open Fel.

Fact is, 75% of the others shards like Napa simply do not need more spawn or Fel open but you have the whiners on here saying "but it's not fair we don't get what ATL gets". Sad that those cry babies are dictating how the event runs on the most populated shard in the game because they think their dead shard should be treated the same.

/rant

We all pay the same your pvp/Atlantic play is no more deserving than Origin cats or pac

Difference is that we could shut down Origin and keep the game going. My guess is that there are probably some free shards out there that have more of a population than Origin (outside of EM events). Go look at your Deceit event. It's almost completely empty. 

Compare that to ATL which basically is UO. If they were to shut down ATL they would be shutting down the game.

Not true everyone would just go back home..

More delusional posts by you. There are many players, as well as myself, that have called ATL home since 97 and would no longer have a home. If so many people called other shards home then why are there so many event transactions on my shard that are all shard bound? 

Now shew - go back to your cave little troll boy or to the beach to rebury your head in the sand.

You view Atlantic as some great metropolis while in fact it's a bad Walmart in a crappy part of town..Atlantic became Atlantic when shard shields arrived and it became about money that's it and if we can't have a discussion even a heated one without you resorting to insults don't expect the mods to let it continue..

Like it or not McTroll - ATL is now THE shard of UO. That is what is keeping the lights on and driving business. Fact still remains that ATL is 50x more populated than Origin and that you don't need Fel open (or more spawn) because nobody there is doing the event anyway versus ATL where it's being run 23/7.

I think when you transfer to Atl, for 7 days it should show the shard you came from, and you shouldn't be able to turn it off immediately. Then we would see whether Atl is keeping the lights on, or if players from smaller shards are. How about it @Kyronix ; ? 

Yoshi said:

Mariah said:

popps said:

Please correct me if I am mistaken but I seemed to understand, that they are account bound as long as the account is Endless Journey.....

You are mistaken. Details are in the publish notes, and on the event page.

"actually @ popps is correct and my sources have also verified this.

You can farm the items on an EJ accounts using any illegal means.

You then pay for the account that has managed to farm the most without being banned. Then claim reward.

The reward is then not account bound

None of this is actually contrary to what the publish notes state"

Then it's broken @Kyronix ;

McDougle said:

You view Atlantic as some great metropolis while in fact it's a bad Walmart in a crappy part of town..Atlantic became Atlantic when shard shields arrived 

You have no clue what you're talking about.

LilyGrace said:

McDougle said:

You view Atlantic as some great metropolis while in fact it's a bad Walmart in a crappy part of town..Atlantic became Atlantic when shard shields arrived 

You have no clue what you're talking about.

Nobody ever does  😂

I mean, it's just a silly evaluation of Atlantic. Atlantic was one of the first servers when the game went gold. I'd still be there myself if it hadn't been for Chessy opening up a month later and me have a slightly better connection to it than I did Atlantic. 

McDougle said:

Yoshi said:

Mariah said:

popps said:

Please correct me if I am mistaken but I seemed to understand, that they are account bound as long as the account is Endless Journey.....

You are mistaken. Details are in the publish notes, and on the event page.

"actually @ popps is correct and my sources have also verified this.

You can farm the items on an EJ accounts using any illegal means.

You then pay for the account that has managed to farm the most without being banned. Then claim reward.

The reward is then not account bound

None of this is actually contrary to what the publish notes state"

Then it's broken @ Kyronix 

Not broken. 

• Rewards redeemed from the Artifact Trader by a veteran account will not be account bound

They pay before they claim the rewards. Since there is a cap on how many items they can get, they will fill it. Pay for the account. 
Then can't go back to EJ. For 4 months.

The EMs would ban an EJ account if caught doing bad thinks, if you read the forum you will see many players have been flagged.

Yeah, I don't see this as an issue. The game gets subscription money it wouldn't have previously had under the old status quo. 

Still same sampires running around 24/7 nothing gets done glad @Mesanna doesn't care

The problem with account bound rewards is that I have 3 accounts I want rewards for but only use 1 to earn rewards. I only have 1 sampire between the 3 accounts which works best for me. Making the items and drops account bond would mean I'd either need to make 3 sampires or not claim rewards for the other two accounts, neither of which is an option I care for. 

Riner said:

The problem with account bound rewards is that I have 3 accounts I want rewards for but only use 1 to earn rewards. I only have 1 sampire between the 3 accounts which works best for me. Making the items and drops account bond would mean I'd either need to make 3 sampires or not claim rewards for the other two accounts, neither of which is an option I care for. 

Yeah, I see you point there. Ugh, I just hate the shard bound stuff so much. I was thinking at least if items were account bound you wouldn't be restricted as far as inter-shard travel goes. 

LilyGrace said:

Riner said:

The problem with account bound rewards is that I have 3 accounts I want rewards for but only use 1 to earn rewards. I only have 1 sampire between the 3 accounts which works best for me. Making the items and drops account bond would mean I'd either need to make 3 sampires or not claim rewards for the other two accounts, neither of which is an option I care for. 

Yeah, I see you point there. Ugh, I just hate the shard bound stuff so much. I was thinking at least if items were account bound you wouldn't be restricted as far as inter-shard travel goes. 

I don't know why they just don't exclude EJ accounts from these events...

Someone said that sovereigns purchased are available to all accounts under the Mythic Master account, I've never tested it personally. I find it intriguing that I can spend my RL money on sovereigns, as much as I want to spend and then share that with the accounts I've chosen not to pay for, but I can't earn ingame items, as much as I want to earn, but not share them with accounts I've chosen not to pay for. I'll elaborate more but want to see what others think..if any.

The two biggest issues with account bound are:

1. Players with multiple accounts not being and to share rewards between characters.  Like Riner said, it’s very likely that players will use the most effective character to fight and get rewards… a sampire might work best, but want to claim an SDI reward for a mage on a different account.  

Merus said:

The two biggest issues with account bound are:

1. Players with multiple accounts not being and to share rewards between characters.  Like Riner said, it’s very likely that players will use the most effective character to fight and get rewards… a sampire might work best, but want to claim an SDI reward for a mage on a different account.  

2. A very significant portion of UO is built around the economy.  While UO certainly has some challenges in the ingame economy after 25 years, it’s still an important element.

Implementing changes that punish legit players in order to combat cheating is a poor excuse and solution.  Proper and fair ToS and enforcement of the ToS is what is needed.

Shard Bound until equipped then account takes care of this 

@McDougle - "Shard Bound until equipped then account takes care of this" 

So, when it drops back into your pack it becomes shard bound again? But if you have whatever it is equipped you can transfer with it? Is that what you mean?

McDougle said:

Merus said:

The two biggest issues with account bound are:

1. Players with multiple accounts not being and to share rewards between characters.  Like Riner said, it’s very likely that players will use the most effective character to fight and get rewards… a sampire might work best, but want to claim an SDI reward for a mage on a different account.  

2. A very significant portion of UO is built around the economy.  While UO certainly has some challenges in the ingame economy after 25 years, it’s still an important element.

Implementing changes that punish legit players in order to combat cheating is a poor excuse and solution.  Proper and fair ToS and enforcement of the ToS is what is needed.

Shard Bound until equipped then account takes care of this 

Not really.  Take an item like the Fey talisman from the last event.  Between my 4 accounts I have 3 archers, 2 throwers, 1 sampire, and 2 traditional melee characters.  I didn’t have time to farm all the rewards I would need to equip all 8 characters, so they share.  I do the same with cameos, luck items, and the 50sdi spellbooks.  Account bound would severely limit that.

Additionally it would mean I could never sell or trade those items in the future if a different item for that slot was a better fit for my build.

LilyGrace said:

@ McDougle - "Shard Bound until equipped then account takes care of this" 

So, when it drops back into your pack it becomes shard bound again? But if you have whatever it is equipped you can transfer with it? Is that what you mean?

It drops as shard bound this allows it to stay on the shard it came from yet still be sold or given to another account once the person who bought/was given it equips it then it's account bound

McDougle said:

LilyGrace said:

@ McDougle - "Shard Bound until equipped then account takes care of this" 

So, when it drops back into your pack it becomes shard bound again? But if you have whatever it is equipped you can transfer with it? Is that what you mean?

It drops as shard bound this allows it to stay on the shard it came from yet still be sold or given to another account once the person who bought/was given it equips it then it's account bound

So that means I would have to farm enough items to get 3 of the same item for my 3 main accounts.  NO THANK YOU.

All makes sense now.... with this 'anti-afk system', aka, another feature added to the game to discourage legitimate players and benefit bots, no wonder the bot army sampires are doing what they're doing. 

username said:

All makes sense now.... with this 'anti-afk system', aka, another feature added to the game to discourage legitimate players and benefit bots, no wonder the bot army sampires are doing what they're doing. 

Lord_Frodo said:

So that means I would have to farm enough items to get 3 of the same item for my 3 main accounts.  NO THANK YOU.

Ah, I love these forums. People read 1 line, ignore the rest, and try to base their PURE PWNAGE ARGUMENT around it. I'm not even going to bother anymore, but you can read one of the several posts I've made on the benefits of account bound and why you're being daft. When you do that, get back to me and tell me you're wrong and you would prefer account bound. 

“Event is on Atlantic this weekend,
but when it returns to trammel only I believe I have identified a means to move the bots from trammel to fel leveraging a feature of command undead (so I can loot them if they dont have auto insure on for the drops)”

username said:

Lord_Frodo said:

So that means I would have to farm enough items to get 3 of the same item for my 3 main accounts.  NO THANK YOU.

Ah, I love these forums. People read 1 line, ignore the rest, and try to base their PURE PWNAGE ARGUMENT around it. I'm not even going to bother anymore, but you can read one of the several posts I've made on the benefits of account bound and why you're being daft. When you do that, get back to me and tell me you're wrong and you would prefer account bound. 

I have read all your posts and I do NOT agree with you so get off your but hurt attitude just because someone disagrees with you.  You just want to go farm dead shards and bring it back to your main shard to use, quit trying to BS us with your blah blah.

I disagree with most.  I think this is a great event.  It isn't often that I get to manually grind out a spawn to get extreme high value items AND page on Mervyn for breaking ToS with moongates.

Well we know Mervyn was correct about the identity of the better. 

Yoshi said:

“I saw Lynk’s sampire bots, 
this actually would and did still happen in fel because the bots would automatically res up at the NPC and return, there was no point killing them because all the drops were auto insurable. Yeah you would kill bots 10 times but get bored after a while - no point killing them if can’t loot any of the drops. 

But lol they were harder to kill than most players because they don’t panic and continue to hit spawn and leech life”

I had the same issues, this is when I had to admit defeat, I couldn't even kill the ones on our server.

When I'm hunting them, as far as I am concerned, anything is fair game to take them down, Trammel or Felucca, it's all part of the game - the players make the game, it's a sandbox challenge in itself.

I like your new concepts. 🙂

Yoshi said:

“if bots chooses to open 2 doors and try to kill spawn that is up to them,

gate goes to safe location only.

but is quite confusing Mesanna at Meet & Greet yesterday said there is no amnesty on using cheat client, why they are letting all the bots run then?"

I'd even argue it differently.
We know no-one ever plays AFK, so they must be playing attended, and made a conscious willing and voluntary decision to jump into the gate.
Therefore no crime is committed. 🙂

IF they were playing AFK, I think most users would accept they are fair game.

What may need to be looked into, is are the GM's themselves playing unattended (or their friends), then banning players in revenge if they get caught out, that would be a massive conflict of interests - and that maybe why we are seeing conflicting responses.

What makes me smile is this;

They only hold these events in Trammel, and make Feluccan players play in Trammel, and we cannot stop ourselves, it is our nature and playstyle, we will find a reason, and a way to kill other players, one way or another 😂

This is almost the best argument there is, for keeping us in Felucca. 🙂

Cookie said:

What makes me smile is this;

They only hold these events in Trammel, and make Feluccan players play in Trammel, and we cannot stop ourselves, it is our nature and playstyle, we will find a reason, and a way to kill other players, one way or another 😂

This is almost the best argument there is, for keeping us in Felucca. 🙂

Yep just make items account bound and there ya go, problem solved, like I've been saying for a long time now.

Yoshi said:

" @ Kyronix please ALL bots even in tram auto insure the drops so only get gold for killing them, why you don't make some cursed?"

Why must you always propose crappy and stupid solutions to deal with cheaters which also punish legit players at the same time? Another brainless suggestion and a thread with your OnlyFan group of pvp cheaters.

username said:

Cookie said:

What makes me smile is this;

They only hold these events in Trammel, and make Feluccan players play in Trammel, and we cannot stop ourselves, it is our nature and playstyle, we will find a reason, and a way to kill other players, one way or another 😂

This is almost the best argument there is, for keeping us in Felucca. 🙂

Yep just make items account bound and there ya go, problem solved, like I've been saying for a long time now.

I give you a suggestion, why not u go play on your own private server and bound all u want to yourself.

Yoshi said:

" @ Kyronix please ALL bots even in tram auto insure the drops so only get gold for killing them, why you don't make some cursed?"

Bravo @Yoshi for thinking outside the box on getting the AFK scripters.