It was a najasauros. As far as the follower count, that's not something I pay much attention to usually as the pets always take up 5/5 slots.Lord_Frodo said:What kind of pet was it that you lost? When you stabled it did your follower count go to zero?
There are many, many times that I do not stable my pets before ending play for an evening. Logging out in a house with my pet etc. You're saying that if the player does not stable their pet before ending a play session then this glitchy deletion of pets is the players fault and not that of the developers? What if your house disappeared for no reason, would that be okay?dvvid said:Is it possible you didn’t stable your pet then logged out? If so, I think that is typically not a good idea.
I fixed this for you.Punisher said:I've lost 2 bonded fully scrolled 120 cu's before. I know of quite a few people this has happen to, spending 500m on scrolls and nothing they are currently willing to do about it.
Good question. Another would beArchangel said:HOW on earth does a bonded pet disappear!???
Thank you. This was a bonded pet. It had died and was resed countless times, not a newly bonded pet.Skett said:I’ve had several unbounded pets disappear I didn’t think bounded pets would just vanish
sorry for your loss that’s really messed up and needs fixed
Pets do not auto stable when you log off. They go into a nether world. If you die and log off they go into a nether world. Some may call this nether world auto stable. But we have no way to know if that pet goes into our stable. I do not think it does. They return to you when you log back in if you are alive.Lord_Frodo said:Good question. Another would beArchangel said:HOW on earth does a bonded pet disappear!???
How does a bonded pet not auto stable when logging off?
Does heat of battle effect pets?
Like the people who had houses deleted by mesanneRom said:There are many, many times that I do not stable my pets before ending play for an evening. Logging out in a house with my pet etc. You're saying that if the player does not stable their pet before ending a play session then this glitchy deletion of pets is the players fault and not that of the developers? What if your house disappeared for no reason, would that be okay?dvvid said:Is it possible you didn’t stable your pet then logged out? If so, I think that is typically not a good idea.
What this GM said is that if things disappear for no reason that there is no recourse; "GMs cannot give out items to players, nor replace items, pets or houses."
Imagine your house went poof overnight...
Pawain said:Pets do not auto stable when you log off. They go into a nether world. If you die and log off they go into a nether world. Some may call this nether world auto stable. But we have no way to know if that pet goes into our stable. I do not think it does. They return to you when you log back in if you are alive.Lord_Frodo said:Good question. Another would beArchangel said:HOW on earth does a bonded pet disappear!???
How does a bonded pet not auto stable when logging off?
Does heat of battle effect pets?
@ Rom they can not return things that go poof, or else everyone would have a Castle, rare pets and items going poof every day that need returned.
I swear I had a Blaze Cu out Mr. GM and it just went poof. You can even see it in my stable on TC....
I swear I had a Blaze Cu out Mr. GM and it just went poof. You can even see it in my stable on TC....
There are logs. Everything is an entry in a database table somewhere. If they don't have backup instances they're one outage away from losing all data, so they do. They can easily verify what you did or did not have with an SQL query. I didn't exaggerate or make my loss any more significant than it was, a bonded pet. I feel exactly the opposite of what popps stated should be the case, if you let people's stuff disappear without remedy they will lose faith in the permanence of the game. That's not the type of stuff that customers should tolerate. If I buy a table and when I get home the table falls apart, guess what... I ask for my money back.popps said:Pawain said:Pets do not auto stable when you log off. They go into a nether world. If you die and log off they go into a nether world. Some may call this nether world auto stable. But we have no way to know if that pet goes into our stable. I do not think it does. They return to you when you log back in if you are alive.Lord_Frodo said:Good question. Another would beArchangel said:HOW on earth does a bonded pet disappear!???
How does a bonded pet not auto stable when logging off?
Does heat of battle effect pets?
@ Rom they can not return things that go poof, or else everyone would have a Castle, rare pets and items going poof every day that need returned.
I swear I had a Blaze Cu out Mr. GM and it just went poof. You can even see it in my stable on TC....I swear I had a Blaze Cu out Mr. GM and it just went poof. You can even see it in my stable on TC....
Well, one would imagine that the game's code was to have LOGs for all characters and items, pets, houses, Ships and whatever else associated with them and in their possession.... after all, when a server crashes, we have sometimes seen the game restore a previously saved game....
Why couldn't then this be also possible for characters and their belongings ?
Sure, it would take work to look into that character's LOG and belongings stored in the LOG but, if code did anticipate this necessity, I do not understand why it could not be done.
Of course, if there is no saved LOG for characters and their belongings in UO then, it is a different story but then, if there were no LOGs saved, how could shards at times be then restored to previous saves ?
One thing is the TOS, another thing is having Policies which, eventually, may loose customers....McDougle said:Here's the problem the TOS clearly state all our stuff is really thier stuff blah legal blah so yeah they can say sorry for your luck chuck. now is that the right thing no is it terrible customer service absolutely.. the current developers seem very out of touch with the players and the fact that it's the permanency that makes UO uo..
But in their reverting a Shard, don't they "also" revert an individual account with all it has in the bank box, character's backpack, House, stables and all that ?Pawain said:They can revert shards. They can not revert individual accounts.
100%JenniferMarie said:I'm confused by the repeated use of "auto-stable".You either go to an actual stable in a town or to a hitching post, say "Stable" and store your pet. Or you mount your pet (if it can be mounted) and log out. In all my years of playing UO I never once thought "oh, if I log out this bonded pet will just be here whenever I log back in."And for the record, the publish notes for Publish 111 state: the auto-stable is NOT your stable. (It's a temporary place for bonded pets to go if you forget to stable them when you log out.)
Not that I've ever seen or heard of.McDougle said:Has any developer returned something in the past?
“Mmm this is a tough one,JenniferMarie said:I'm confused by the repeated use of "auto-stable".You either go to an actual stable in a town or to a hitching post, say "Stable" and store your pet. Or you mount your pet (if it can be mounted) and log out. In all my years of playing UO I never once thought "oh, if I log out this bonded pet will just be here whenever I log back in."And for the record, the publish notes for Publish 111 state: the auto-stable is NOT your stable. (It's a temporary place for bonded pets to go if you forget to stable them when you log out.)
From what we can gleam from the first post.Yoshi said:“ @ Punisher thanks for your info, I already almost reproduced this issue before (having a pet logged in at server down) but I wasn’t using a mountable pet, I will try again to reproduce.
@ gay how long ago was this? Because they fairly recently identified an issue with dead pets and they now follow you through servers as I’m sure you noticed. It’s possible your issue was resolved already.
Still awaiting an account of what actually happened with @ rom “
Speculative? What part is not what the OP said?Yoshi said:“Thanks Pawain, I too can read. Not sure your mostly speculative interpretation of events is going to help.”
Pawain said:Pets do not auto stable when you log off. They go into a nether world. If you die and log off they go into a nether world. Some may call this nether world auto stable. But we have no way to know if that pet goes into our stable. I do not think it does. They return to you when you log back in if you are alive.Lord_Frodo said:Good question. Another would beArchangel said:HOW on earth does a bonded pet disappear!???
How does a bonded pet not auto stable when logging off?
Does heat of battle effect pets?
@ Rom they can not return things that go poof, or else everyone would have a Castle, rare pets and items going poof every day that need returned.
I swear I had a Blaze Cu out Mr. GM and it just went poof. You can even see it in my stable on TC....
I think the issue of replacing items, even ones that can be verified from a previous backup, is the ability to trade/discard items.drcossack said:Pawain said:Pets do not auto stable when you log off. They go into a nether world. If you die and log off they go into a nether world. Some may call this nether world auto stable. But we have no way to know if that pet goes into our stable. I do not think it does. They return to you when you log back in if you are alive.Lord_Frodo said:Good question. Another would beArchangel said:HOW on earth does a bonded pet disappear!???
How does a bonded pet not auto stable when logging off?
Does heat of battle effect pets?
@ Rom they can not return things that go poof, or else everyone would have a Castle, rare pets and items going poof every day that need returned.
I swear I had a Blaze Cu out Mr. GM and it just went poof. You can even see it in my stable on TC....If you log out while dead, they do, in fact, get auto-stabled - go to a stable after you've revived and it'll be there. If you're logging out while alive, the same thing happens. The only difference is that the pet is SUPPOSED to return to your side because your character isn't dead; if you're in the heat of battle, your character is still subject to the log-out timer, but the pet is stabled. Auto-stable has been in place for a long time & it's not hard to figure out all of its intricacies.If pets are disappearing (and I have no reason to doubt the stories of them going poof - people are not THAT careless with something they've sunk a lot of money/time into), there is NO REASON why the GMs or developers can't replace them - server backups exist. I don't know how far back they go, but it's not unreasonable to think that something they're informed of immediately can be fixed for a specific individual.
Merus said:I think the issue of replacing items, even ones that can be verified from a previous backup, is the ability to trade/discard items.drcossack said:Pawain said:Pets do not auto stable when you log off. They go into a nether world. If you die and log off they go into a nether world. Some may call this nether world auto stable. But we have no way to know if that pet goes into our stable. I do not think it does. They return to you when you log back in if you are alive.Lord_Frodo said:Good question. Another would beArchangel said:HOW on earth does a bonded pet disappear!???
How does a bonded pet not auto stable when logging off?
Does heat of battle effect pets?
@ Rom they can not return things that go poof, or else everyone would have a Castle, rare pets and items going poof every day that need returned.
I swear I had a Blaze Cu out Mr. GM and it just went poof. You can even see it in my stable on TC....If you log out while dead, they do, in fact, get auto-stabled - go to a stable after you've revived and it'll be there. If you're logging out while alive, the same thing happens. The only difference is that the pet is SUPPOSED to return to your side because your character isn't dead; if you're in the heat of battle, your character is still subject to the log-out timer, but the pet is stabled. Auto-stable has been in place for a long time & it's not hard to figure out all of its intricacies.If pets are disappearing (and I have no reason to doubt the stories of them going poof - people are not THAT careless with something they've sunk a lot of money/time into), there is NO REASON why the GMs or developers can't replace them - server backups exist. I don't know how far back they go, but it's not unreasonable to think that something they're informed of immediately can be fixed for a specific individual.
I put my fully trained and scrolled blaze in the stable to get a record of it at server down… log in after server up and transfer the pet to another account then page a GM and say it went poof…. That I owned it can be verified, but how does a GM tell the difference when I page him? I’m pretty positive UO doesn’t log everything.
It works for an entire shard revert since everything for every player gets reset (except shard transfers). I can’t justify reverting an entire shard over one players lost pet though.
I’ve lost pets to bugs and it really sucks, but sometimes that’s the way it goes in a video game.
Merus said:I think the issue of replacing items, even ones that can be verified from a previous backup, is the ability to trade/discard items.drcossack said:Pawain said:Pets do not auto stable when you log off. They go into a nether world. If you die and log off they go into a nether world. Some may call this nether world auto stable. But we have no way to know if that pet goes into our stable. I do not think it does. They return to you when you log back in if you are alive.Lord_Frodo said:Good question. Another would beArchangel said:HOW on earth does a bonded pet disappear!???
How does a bonded pet not auto stable when logging off?
Does heat of battle effect pets?
@ Rom they can not return things that go poof, or else everyone would have a Castle, rare pets and items going poof every day that need returned.
I swear I had a Blaze Cu out Mr. GM and it just went poof. You can even see it in my stable on TC....If you log out while dead, they do, in fact, get auto-stabled - go to a stable after you've revived and it'll be there. If you're logging out while alive, the same thing happens. The only difference is that the pet is SUPPOSED to return to your side because your character isn't dead; if you're in the heat of battle, your character is still subject to the log-out timer, but the pet is stabled. Auto-stable has been in place for a long time & it's not hard to figure out all of its intricacies.If pets are disappearing (and I have no reason to doubt the stories of them going poof - people are not THAT careless with something they've sunk a lot of money/time into), there is NO REASON why the GMs or developers can't replace them - server backups exist. I don't know how far back they go, but it's not unreasonable to think that something they're informed of immediately can be fixed for a specific individual.
I put my fully trained and scrolled blaze in the stable to get a record of it at server down… log in after server up and transfer the pet to another account then page a GM and say it went poof…. That I owned it can be verified, but how does a GM tell the difference when I page him? I’m pretty positive UO doesn’t log everything.
I’m quite certain that UO doesn’t store the movement of every time every item moves in game.drcossack said:Merus said:I think the issue of replacing items, even ones that can be verified from a previous backup, is the ability to trade/discard items.drcossack said:Pawain said:Pets do not auto stable when you log off. They go into a nether world. If you die and log off they go into a nether world. Some may call this nether world auto stable. But we have no way to know if that pet goes into our stable. I do not think it does. They return to you when you log back in if you are alive.Lord_Frodo said:Good question. Another would beArchangel said:HOW on earth does a bonded pet disappear!???
How does a bonded pet not auto stable when logging off?
Does heat of battle effect pets?
@ Rom they can not return things that go poof, or else everyone would have a Castle, rare pets and items going poof every day that need returned.
I swear I had a Blaze Cu out Mr. GM and it just went poof. You can even see it in my stable on TC....If you log out while dead, they do, in fact, get auto-stabled - go to a stable after you've revived and it'll be there. If you're logging out while alive, the same thing happens. The only difference is that the pet is SUPPOSED to return to your side because your character isn't dead; if you're in the heat of battle, your character is still subject to the log-out timer, but the pet is stabled. Auto-stable has been in place for a long time & it's not hard to figure out all of its intricacies.If pets are disappearing (and I have no reason to doubt the stories of them going poof - people are not THAT careless with something they've sunk a lot of money/time into), there is NO REASON why the GMs or developers can't replace them - server backups exist. I don't know how far back they go, but it's not unreasonable to think that something they're informed of immediately can be fixed for a specific individual.
I put my fully trained and scrolled blaze in the stable to get a record of it at server down… log in after server up and transfer the pet to another account then page a GM and say it went poof…. That I owned it can be verified, but how does a GM tell the difference when I page him? I’m pretty positive UO doesn’t log everything.
It works for an entire shard revert since everything for every player gets reset (except shard transfers). I can’t justify reverting an entire shard over one players lost pet though.
I’ve lost pets to bugs and it really sucks, but sometimes that’s the way it goes in a video game.
But that's the thing - the devs can look things up for individual accounts. It's why Mesanna is able to unban them. When I first purchased Diablo 3, I had some issues with codes (I believe for the Reaper of Souls DLC) & Blizzard's support team was able to find the code for me (I had redeemed a few and wasn't sure exactly which one it was) & apply it to my account. Do you really think the developers here can't do the same without doing a server-wide revert to the last backup?
I went afk after a spawn. Yes hidden. Nothing having to do with server down. It was 6:30pm. My inquiry was how would it be possible for me to bring out a second 5 slot pet if I already had a 5 slot pet out. The game shouldn't allow me to bring out a new pet if I supposedly already had one.Pawain said:From what we can gleam from the first post.Yoshi said:“ @ Punisher thanks for your info, I already almost reproduced this issue before (having a pet logged in at server down) but I wasn’t using a mountable pet, I will try again to reproduce.
@ gay how long ago was this? Because they fairly recently identified an issue with dead pets and they now follow you through servers as I’m sure you noticed. It’s possible your issue was resolved already.
Still awaiting an account of what actually happened with @ rom “
The poster was doing a T2A spawn in fel with a Naj. They went to the city of Papau to bank the scrolls and stayed afk in the city hidden. The OP does not recall whether they stabled the pet before banking or going afk for a few minutes. Then there was query from the OP about why the pet was blocked and something about having another pet out.
I have never heard of a non mountable pet being duplicated by game mechanics.
Why are you exploring logging off at server down? The OP did not mention this happened to this pet. He only said he has done it other times.
Why are some parts of the conversation cut? Why does the OP ask if the GM is reading a script on him?
There is not enough information given by the OP for anyone to reproduce what happened.
But we did discover that the GM speaking from a developer stated to log off in a safe log out area for a few minutes to attempt to recover a pet that went poof.
The mention of a bonding potion is me asking for a bonding potion after the game errored on me in reparation for what happened in order to make the blow of losing a bonded pet less severe. It is clearly something that should not have happened and having to wait seven days on top of the actual loss essentially makes the character unusable for a week on top of the loss.popps said:What is this frequent mentioning of a "bonding potion" often associated with players claiming to have lost a bonded pet ?
Is there aspeculation that it is easier to loose a pet that was bonded with a bonding potion as compared to the 7 days time bonding period ?
If so, I do not understand coding wise how this coud be a thing... I mean, once a pet is bonded, to code, the method via which it got bonded, that is, whether with a bonding potion or the 7 days wait time, should not matter.... a bonded pet is now a bonded pet, period.
And thus, all bonded pet should be the same, regardless of the bonding method used to bond them.
That they are then lost should be an entire different story, totally unrelated to the bonding method used.
Right ?
The conversation with the GM is not cut or edited. The introduction above the picture was not included only because that wouldn't fit into one picture. The conversation above was mostly introductory and asking me where and when the pet loss occurred.Pawain said:From what we can gleam from the first post.Yoshi said:“ @ Punisher thanks for your info, I already almost reproduced this issue before (having a pet logged in at server down) but I wasn’t using a mountable pet, I will try again to reproduce.
@ gay how long ago was this? Because they fairly recently identified an issue with dead pets and they now follow you through servers as I’m sure you noticed. It’s possible your issue was resolved already.
Still awaiting an account of what actually happened with @ rom “
The poster was doing a T2A spawn in fel with a Naj. They went to the city of Papau to bank the scrolls and stayed afk in the city hidden. The OP does not recall whether they stabled the pet before banking or going afk for a few minutes. Then there was query from the OP about why the pet was blocked and something about having another pet out.
I have never heard of a non mountable pet being duplicated by game mechanics.
Why are you exploring logging off at server down? The OP did not mention this happened to this pet. He only said he has done it other times.
Why are some parts of the conversation cut? Why does the OP ask if the GM is reading a script on him?
There is not enough information given by the OP for anyone to reproduce what happened.
But we did discover that the GM speaking from a developer stated to log off in a safe log out area for a few minutes to attempt to recover a pet that went poof.
Yea this was my biggest question. How did the whole had a 5 slot pet then hid (I guess was timed out?) then was able to claim another 5 slot pet happen?Yoshi said:" @ Rom
Where was your first pet when you brought out a second pet? was it next to you?
Then what happened after it let you bring out a second pet?
i think i have heard of this before actually and i tried to reproduce, RE logging off at spawns. From memory it did indeed briefly put my follower count to 0 but after a short time it returned to 5, I'll take another look. So when you went afk the game logged you out (timed you out)? you then went to the stables and were able to claim another pet..
okay i think i understand
it probably doesn't matter but tell me anyway what champ spawn you logged out at, and i'll presume the champ spawn was not active?"
Rom said:
If you want to reproduce, go to a spawn with a 5 slot pet that you are not mounted on and log off.
Yes that is not what he originally said, And how many thousands of players have logged off and back on with a pet thousands of times with no losses. Some players live in Doom with a non mountable pet.Yoshi said:Rom said:
If you want to reproduce, go to a spawn with a 5 slot pet that you are not mounted on and log off." @ Pawain he literally wrote this, we don't need your random interpretation of events on a thread where we can read.That said, there are more discrepancies.If you log off at a champ spawn (fully timed out) your char gets teleported to a shrine on log in.I am trying to repro losing the pet by logging out at champ hidden, not been able to"
😂 This thread and every other lolYoshi said:Rom said:
If you want to reproduce, go to a spawn with a 5 slot pet that you are not mounted on and log off." @ Pawain he literally wrote this, we don't need your random interpretation of events on a thread where we can read.That said, there are more discrepancies.If you log off at a champ spawn (fully timed out) your char gets teleported to a shrine on log in.I am trying to repro losing the pet by logging out at champ hidden, not been able toThis thread becomes easier reading if you filter out Pawain's comments"
After doing several back to back spawns I took a break before an event. I was offline for more than an hour. When I got back on I still had to put stuff in my house and get ready for an event. I had no pet out and my stable slots showed as 0/5. I grabbed a different pet because I would need a different pet for the event vs the spawn. It wasn't until the following day that I realized the spawn pet was gone and not in my stables.keven2002 said:Yea this was my biggest question. How did the whole had a 5 slot pet then hid (I guess was timed out?) then was able to claim another 5 slot pet happen?Yoshi said:" @ Rom
Where was your first pet when you brought out a second pet? was it next to you?
Then what happened after it let you bring out a second pet?
i think i have heard of this before actually and i tried to reproduce, RE logging off at spawns. From memory it did indeed briefly put my follower count to 0 but after a short time it returned to 5, I'll take another look. So when you went afk the game logged you out (timed you out)? you then went to the stables and were able to claim another pet..
okay i think i understand
it probably doesn't matter but tell me anyway what champ spawn you logged out at, and i'll presume the champ spawn was not active?"
Also, why did you claim another pet instead of the one that you had originally taken out?
When did you stable the original pet?Rom said:After doing several back to back spawns I took a break before an event. I was offline for more than an hour. When I got back on I still had to put stuff in my house and get ready for an event. I had no pet out and my stable slots showed as 0/5. I grabbed a different pet because I would need a different pet for the event vs the spawn. It wasn't until the following day that I realized the spawn pet was gone and not in my stables.keven2002 said:Yea this was my biggest question. How did the whole had a 5 slot pet then hid (I guess was timed out?) then was able to claim another 5 slot pet happen?Yoshi said:" @ Rom
Where was your first pet when you brought out a second pet? was it next to you?
Then what happened after it let you bring out a second pet?
i think i have heard of this before actually and i tried to reproduce, RE logging off at spawns. From memory it did indeed briefly put my follower count to 0 but after a short time it returned to 5, I'll take another look. So when you went afk the game logged you out (timed you out)? you then went to the stables and were able to claim another pet..
okay i think i understand
it probably doesn't matter but tell me anyway what champ spawn you logged out at, and i'll presume the champ spawn was not active?"
Also, why did you claim another pet instead of the one that you had originally taken out?
I use the stock UO EC client with no additional software installed and no files modified.keven2002 said:Maybe they use a 3rd party client because they paid for another UOA key but they haven't updated the dll file so they are forced to use a non approved client because the approved one isn't working.
Paupua bank.Yoshi said:“So where exactly did you log out?
and was your pet with you when you logged out?
and did you get teleported to a shrine when you logged back in?”
…Rom said: I'm finding that my pets will disappear often and I can relog to get them to rejoin me.
Actually, in that situation all is not always lost. While the pet doesn't show in followers, it can be retrieved. I've done it. I went back to the champ area to look for it, and found it.Relvinian said:I am sorry to hear that pets are still being lost. I had posted about my same experience in the past. Pets can easily be lost today by timing out in champ spawn area. Even this week a guildmate lost a pet when he was booted from champ spawn area to shrine. His pet did not follow and his followers stayed at 0/5.
Unless it went wild and got killed before it is found and retamed..... which it is usually what likely happens if one's own character has "timed out" and has been sent to a Shrine.... that means that time has lapsed (otherwise they would have not been sent to a Shrine...), time during which the likeliness of the pet gone wild is high... as well as also the likeliness of it getting killed by the spawn.... or some other player, since we are talking of Felucca facet, is high....Petra_Fyde said:Actually, in that situation all is not always lost. While the pet doesn't show in followers, it can be retrieved. I've done it. I went back to the champ area to look for it, and found it.Relvinian said:I am sorry to hear that pets are still being lost. I had posted about my same experience in the past. Pets can easily be lost today by timing out in champ spawn area. Even this week a guildmate lost a pet when he was booted from champ spawn area to shrine. His pet did not follow and his followers stayed at 0/5.
Excuse me? Abuse of game mechanics? I did exactly what I said about 10 times. I did a spawn, ran myself out of the spawn, hid my character and left my PC to attend to real life. When I got back I was short of time before a commitment to attend an in game event and rushed to get myself there in time. What about this was abusive?Yoshi said:“i am not surprised the GMs/devs were not able to do anything with the OP giving contradictory account of what happened with still missing information. Days of questions later and we’re still no closer to finding out where he left his pet when he went to the bank. (Or why - although I guess that’s not important)Also seems like same game mechanic abuse has been taking place, with the pet owner abusing log out/in to summon pet to their location instead of using a pet ball of summoning”
Talk about moving the goalposts, that's exactly what you're doing here. I'm talking about my pet disappearing and you're victim blaming saying that the devs have already done so much that even though their current system doesn't work as intended that it's already much better than things "back in the day." You can't judge things based on how things were, but how they are currently implemented. Are bonded pets supposed to disappear permanently under the current implementation? Stop moving the goalposts.Yoshi said:"there is a generic problem here with players testing the boundaries.So the devs made it so if you log out/lose connection and you didn't get a chance to stable your pet, your pet gets auto stabled and appears next to you on log in. So instead of players using this as a safeguard, people now just log out without stabling, and expect their pet to be there 100% of the time they do that. And even as is the case here, (ab)using log out/in as a way to summon a pet instead of using a pet ball.The devs have now made it so pets don't go wild and instead will just stop obeying commands/attacking things, so now it seems players are leaving their pets unattended killing stuff while they're off at the bank - not even with the pet (something you would never do before as this would guarantee pet loss).What's the point in them putting in safeguards if people are just going to move the goalposts on how they play?the devs are giving more than an inch, and the players are taking a mile"
Yoshi said:"if you're the victim, why are you being so cagey and STILL haven't answered the basic question of,where was your pet last when this happened? (and why did you leave it there?)it's the simplest question surely, and 3 pages later, 1 week later, still unanswered"
I can only assume you think they were involved in some illegal activity but if so do you really think they'd have paged a GM ?Yoshi said:"if you're the victim, why are you being so cagey and STILL haven't answered the basic question of,where was your pet last when this happened? (and why did you leave it there?)it's the simplest question surely, and 3 pages later, 1 week later, still unanswered"
Dude, you're accusatory tone is ridiculous. Who do you think you are throwing around accusations and questioning my character? I don't take kindly it it. The questions you present were asked and answered in my initial posting. The answer was I did not recall exactly what had happened by the following day when I discovered it went missing. My initial thought was that I had stabled it, but I second guess myself.Yoshi said:"if you're the victim, why are you being so cagey and STILL haven't answered the basic question of,where was your pet last when this happened? (and why did you leave it there?)it's the simplest question surely, and 3 pages later, 1 week later, still unanswered.But no pets are not supposed to dissapear under any situation"
Yea, flagging you at this point. You're not contributing in any constructive way.Yoshi said:"shrug, i dunno, I really don't know why he don't answer"
Negative. I am the only person in possession of my password.Yoshi said:"so there is a days gap between you discovering the pet is missing and it last being used okay.This is a long shot,Is it possible someone else who has access to your login (EG your spouse) perhaps moved the pet from one char/account to another for some reason.EG Najasaurus can be used for training weapon skills as it has 100 poison resist.I lament when my daughter borrows things"
I think this is going in the wrong direction if you're trying to replicate the issue, but I'll answer with the caveat that I am a relatively "new player" in that I only returned to the game in the spring of 2022 after a long hiatus of around 10 years. If you're asking what skills the pet had then the answer is poison breath and frenzied whirlwind.Pawain said:@ Rom
Since it sounded like the pet was not full of 120 scrolls. Can you share with others, what build you are using to do the champ spawns?
A naj with what build?
No. I am changing the subject. It may help others to see that you are doing spawns with a pet that you did not invest a bunch of 120 scrolls in and you can make pretty fast.Rom said:I think this is going in the wrong direction if you're trying to replicate the issue, but I'll answer with the caveat that I am a relatively "new player" in that I only returned to the game in the spring of 2022 after a long hiatus of around 10 years. If you're asking what skills the pet had then the answer is poison breath and frenzied whirlwind.Pawain said:@ Rom
Since it sounded like the pet was not full of 120 scrolls. Can you share with others, what build you are using to do the champ spawns?
A naj with what build?
Like I said previously though, I have had my bonded pets disappear on me multiple times per week. Things like being in a spawn or dying seem to cause it the most often, but I've also seen it happen from server lines and going through moongates. In dungeon despise I found that losing my pet was such a common occurrence that I stopped going there. However, before this experience I had never lost a bonded pet. I was always able to relog and have it return or it automatically be transported to my stables.
May I ask how to copy my character there with the EC?Mariah said:@ Rom can you copy your character to test center and attempt to reproduce there? That way your pets would be safe and only the copies on test center would be lost.
Well, I would not say that to @PlayerSkillFTW .... I seem to understand that instead, he is very happy with his Najasaurus.....Urge said:Tbh the naj is probably the most unimpressive pet I've ever seen so I don't think it's really a big loss other than the bonding pot.
If you're on ATL let me know if want help replacing the pet and potion.
Lord_Frodo said:While you were AFK your pet could have gone wild and that is the reason you were allowed to get another pet out
Hippo said:I lost a fully trained/partially scrolled Blue Beetle this morning. I'd been moving between houses and I'm pretty sure it was loaded, with what I do not know:( This was yesterday or day before. Obviously I must have been dismounted when I logged out/or when UO auto logged me out. When I logged on this morn my follower count showed 5/5 - I searched house and saw no bug. I logged out then back on, slot was 0/5 and no bug in stable nor loaded corpse around. I paged GM, nothing could do. I accept that It was my fault for not ensuring that I was mounted when I logged, but it still sucks.
I find myself dismounted all the time never sure why i assume it's just another bug that will never be acknowledged much less fixed..m
No thanks.Yoshi said:“I made the suggestion before to remove the backpack feature from blue beetles when the animal training process has been initiated as it was only a matter of time before someone loses a scrolled beetle, but this safeguard was never introduced.
(some of the posters here dismissed my concerns as a never going to happen event, but this is now the second story I’ve heard of a lost scrolled blue beetle)”
I log out un-mounted on scrolled beetles everyday with my disco tamer who's a gargoyle never an issue. I log on all the time to find myself mysteriously un-mounted from my trained beetle on my Fisher/tamer still with no issuesYoshi said:“I made the suggestion before to remove the backpack feature from blue beetles when the animal training process has been initiated as it was only a matter of time before someone loses a scrolled beetle, but this safeguard was never introduced.
(some of the posters here dismissed my concerns as a never going to happen event, but this is now the second story I’ve heard of a lost scrolled blue beetle)”
My Fisherman has a full beetle all the time now i am always mounted when I log out but not when I log back in so realistically it's layers of bugsYoshi said:"but if you accidentally left an item in its backpack, you may find you lose that beetle, it's easily done, go to drag and drop a piece of food to it but pick up something else instead.."