The Daemon Heads are 52 ?

Unless I counted wrong, there is 6 styles of heads times 8 anti-Virtue Dungeons plus 4 rare ones.

That makes a total of 52 for a full Collection (not to mention doubles...).

Is that so ?

Another stressing addition to players' already very much stressed storage abilities without the Developers adding anything to "ease up" players' storage issues.... how uncool.....

normal 4 styles x 8   -> 32
rare 4styles x 4 -> 16

total 48

Then don't go for them. Easy.  Once again only YOU are looking for something to moan about.  Buy a second acct, get another home

Play the Game

STOP CRYING

Once again, you only speak for yourself NOT the player base

Its not stressing or uncool. You however.........

Not even going to try for the heads.  I will start throwing them on a vendor soon enough, thinking 5 million per head

There are only 4 styles. 

Has it been confirmed that each rare can have all 4 styles?

Pawain said:

There are only 4 styles. 

Has it been confirmed that each rare can have all 4 styles?

Well, the image at UO CAH https://www.uo-cah.com/events/horrors-of-the-dark

Shows 6 types....



As for the rare ones, they say "at least 1 type" for "Ilshenar", "Britannia", "Termur" and suspected Tokuno which it would make it 4 heads total....

It’s not “uncool”.  You don’t have any obligation to get all of them. 

 popps said:

Pawain said:

There are only 4 styles. 

Has it been confirmed that each rare can have all 4 styles?

Well, the image at UO CAH https://www.uo-cah.com/events/horrors-of-the-dark

Shows 6 types....



As for the rare ones, they say "at least 1 type" for "Ilshenar", "Britannia", "Termur" and suspected Tokuno which it would make it 4 heads total....

The white ones are the rares. You really can not see that they are the same graphic as the others?

My bad luck is working. Almost 40 common ones and no rares.

18 belts.

With how easy these things drop - you should be able to complete a set for cheap. They are selling on ATL for under 250k and we are only a few days into the spawn. That is compared to the dart board drops from the last dynamic spawn that were selling for 10's of million even towards the end.

Wait another week or so and they will probably be thrown on the ground as they aren't worth any cleanup points (stupid). So easy solution here is do the spawn as you can for a week or 2 and then start filling gaps. Stop trying to create an issue where there isn't one.
d.

Rpopps said:

Pawain said:

There are only 4 styles. 

Has it been confirmed that each rare can have all 4 styles?

Well, the image at UO CAH https://www.uo-cah.com/events/horrors-of-the-dark

Shows 6 types....



As for the rare ones, they say "at least 1 type" for "Ilshenar", "Britannia", "Termur" and suspected Tokuno which it would make it 4 heads total....

So why did you start this stupid thread when YOU know the answer? And then correct others that’s don’t know as if you are the all knowing oracle. Mate you need to get yourself looked at. Mental health is nothing to ignore you are are clearly in need of help 

popps said:

Unless I counted wrong, there is 6 styles of heads times 8 anti-Virtue Dungeons plus 4 rare ones.

That makes a total of 52 for a full Collection (not to mention doubles...).

Is that so ?

Another stressing addition to players' already very much stressed storage abilities without the Developers adding anything to "ease up" players' storage issues.... how uncool.....

Abundance of supply, non-shard bound, is cool. This is how to bring price down and make sure they are available everywhere and lower price, rather than on Auction boxes. 

dvvid said:

It’s not “uncool”.  You don’t have any obligation to get all of them. 

I’d like to see a little more storage in the game as well but you make it work by not hanging onto tons of stuff that you don’t need to hang onto. If you are hoarding things, that’s on you. 

But to say that the devs are being uncool for adding new items to the game to acquire is really off the mark. As if they are adding items just to stress out the hoarders of UO. Pretty ridiculous in my opinion. 

I am saying, that I find it uncool to add, with each Event, LOTS of new items to collect BUT, along with these new additions, there is hardly anything done to increase players' storage capacity.

The drops from Hythloth also add up... suit after suit, it is tens, hundreds of extra new items.... and now the Demonic Heads, tens and tens and tens extra new items to collect.... and then we have the new Windows and then we have also... etc. etc. etc.

And this is, Event after Event after Event....

All of these items add up and become, easily, after a few Events, THOUSANDS of extra new items to find room for.... yet, I do not see anyting done to help out players to increase their storage capacity.

Of course that all of this adds stress to gameplay....

Throw away older items ?

While a possibility, those items TOOK TIME to collect them... throwing them away would mean just cancelling out all of the time spent to gather them....

Take, for example, the items that players are collecting now in Hythloth and Tokuno, they have been costing hours, days, weeks of farming to collect to make suits or a complete Heads collection.... imagine how, a few months down the road, or a Year from now, in order to make room to new items which then will be made available, the same player who, today, has spent countless time to gather Hythloth drops and Tokuno Demonic Heads, will need to throw them away to make room for whatever new items will be made available down the road... what is the point of spending time today to collect them, if tomorrow they will have to be discarded to make room for whatever new items will be designed and introduced ?

I am sorry, but personally, I do find it uncool to see new items added, and a lot of them, without, alongside with their addition, ALSO increasing players' ability to store them.

At least, that is how I see it.

Add a second account problem solved next issue please 

JackFlashUk said:

Rpopps said:

Pawain said:

There are only 4 styles. 

Has it been confirmed that each rare can have all 4 styles?

Well, the image at UO CAH https://www.uo-cah.com/events/horrors-of-the-dark

Shows 6 types....



As for the rare ones, they say "at least 1 type" for "Ilshenar", "Britannia", "Termur" and suspected Tokuno which it would make it 4 heads total....

So why did you start this stupid thread when YOU know the answer? And then correct others that’s don’t know as if you are the all knowing oracle. Mate you need to get yourself looked at. Mental health is nothing to ignore you are are clearly in need of help 

What if UO CAH is not exactly correct and there is more, or there is less ?

Having a public discussion is always better, since any player could pop up and post about a Head drop that they got which noone had a clue about...

And, consequentially, the number of the total heads available would then change....

These Forums are precisely to discuss things about UO yet, I have the impression as if some users would like to see the Forums empty, no posts around...

Go figure...

Pawain said:

 popps said:

Pawain said:

There are only 4 styles. 

Has it been confirmed that each rare can have all 4 styles?

Well, the image at UO CAH https://www.uo-cah.com/events/horrors-of-the-dark

Shows 6 types....



As for the rare ones, they say "at least 1 type" for "Ilshenar", "Britannia", "Termur" and suspected Tokuno which it would make it 4 heads total....

The white ones are the rares. You really can not see that they are the same graphic as the others?

My bad luck is working. Almost 40 common ones and no rares.

18 belts.

You mean, the 2 white ones to the left side ?

My understanding was, at least from reading the UO Cah Link posted in an earlier post, that the rare type was this

And it is named the Archfiend head of (4 types) "Ilshenar", "Britannia", "Termur" and suspected Tokuno...

There is also rare types for the Anti-Virtue ones ?

Popps... the people on uo.cah are not god-knowing either , they passed on the knowledge at the level they had and that's ok. It's up to us to find out if this is the end or if there is more to discover.....

And as always he ignores every solution...

Mene_Drachenfels said:

Popps... the people on uo.cah are not god-knowing either , they passed on the knowledge at the level they had and that's ok. It's up to us to find out if this is the end or if there is more to discover.....

Precisely.....

And that is why I posted the question in the UO Forums.... to see whether there is anyone wanting to add their findings....

 U8popps said:

Pawain said:

 popps said:

Pawain said:

There are only 4 styles. 

Has it been confirmed that each rare can have all 4 styles?

Well, the image at UO CAH https://www.uo-cah.com/events/horrors-of-the-dark

Shows 6 types....



As for the rare ones, they say "at least 1 type" for "Ilshenar", "Britannia", "Termur" and suspected Tokuno which it would make it 4 heads total....

The white ones are the rares. You really can not see that they are the same graphic as the others?

My bad luck is working. Almost 40 common ones and no rares.

18 belts.

You mean, the 2 white ones to the left side ?

My understanding was, at least from reading the UO Cah Link posted in an earlier post, that the rare type was this

And it is named the Archfiend head of (4 types) "Ilshenar", "Britannia", "Termur" and suspected Tokuno...

There is also rare types for the Anti-Virtue ones ?

I have no idea how you're reading what you are reading from their site.

They just happen to have a picture with four common ones and two rare ones.

There are four rare types that are white. The color in that picture is what I am calling white because that's what I see is white.

There was already a discussion on this.

https://forum.uo.com/discussion/9733/list-of-mask

......annnnd another popps thread that will be sent to the thread cemetery...

@popps - Simple fact is that (you have been told this no less than a dozen times) don't need to collect every new piece in the game. If you do then pay for another max storage account (and however many you need). Help keep this game going with another subscription. At least that's how i see it.

IBTL

keven2002 said:

Wait another week or so and they will probably be thrown on the ground as they aren't worth any cleanup points (stupid).

dvvid said:

It’s not “uncool”.  You don’t have any obligation to get all of them. 

I’d like to see a little more storage in the game as well but you make it work by not hanging onto tons of stuff that you don’t need to hang onto. If you are hoarding things, that’s on you. 

But to say that the devs are being uncool for adding new items to the game to acquire is really off the mark. As if they are adding items just to stress out the hoarders of UO. Pretty ridiculous in my opinion. 

Don't worry I've never seen a Dev reply to his posts anyways ...

The Archfiend Mask does not look right when I added it to my Auction box. It looks like mounted to an invisible wall. 

I've said it before and will probably have to say it again. 

Unless you work for Broadsword or EA the only reason for UO is To Waste Time.

If you are playing UO for any other reason you are doing wrong.

popps said:

Unless I counted wrong, there is 6 styles of heads times 8 anti-Virtue Dungeons plus 4 rare ones.

That makes a total of 52 for a full Collection (not to mention doubles...).

Is that so ?

Another stressing addition to players' already very much stressed storage abilities without the Developers adding anything to "ease up" players' storage issues.... how uncool.....

Free storage is available, use EJ account's character backpack. Unlimited accounts = unlimited free storage.  😂

popps said:

Mene_Drachenfels said:

Popps... the people on uo.cah are not god-knowing either , they passed on the knowledge at the level they had and that's ok. It's up to us to find out if this is the end or if there is more to discover.....

Precisely.....

And that is why I posted the question in the UO Forums.... to see whether there is anyone wanting to add their findings....

That picture was a picture from test center that showed 2 of the rare hue with the 4 normal nonhued nonrare ones. It does not say here are the six models.  It's merely to show you some normal and rare models under the text:

 "Daemon Heads

Earned as random rewards while killing the spawn waves."

It does not say "these are the common drops".

Nothing on that page was incorrect. Stop trying to make it an issue.

Here is the thing about collections, Popps.  YOU the player makes the decision to collect or not.  That is your choice.  If you are out of room you have two choices, save your gold and get a larger house or GET ANOTHER ACCOUNT AND HOUSE.  That is what we have done through the years, that is what a vast majority of other uo players do.  You have to decide what collecting collections like this is worth to you.  

Also mannequins and the items on them don't use storage space, if you need to store treasures artifacts, you can use mannequins if you are that pressed for space.

I got a set of the common ones.  Over 50 masks so far and no Rares for me...



lol Popps got spanked By K.

Pawain said:

I got a set of the common ones.  Over 50 masks so far and no Rares for me...



lol Popps got spanked By K.

At the current rate it will no longer be rare soon lol because each round is quite fast. And the final reward is so good now even Gargoyle can use. There is incentive to continue playing and collect the rewards and no incentive to fly them to sell in other shards because it's plentiful. This is the way it should be.

So sad that I didn't manage to get the wildfire Ostard and it's so expensive, and shard bound. 

popps said:

dvvid said:

It’s not “uncool”.  You don’t have any obligation to get all of them. 

I’d like to see a little more storage in the game as well but you make it work by not hanging onto tons of stuff that you don’t need to hang onto. If you are hoarding things, that’s on you. 

But to say that the devs are being uncool for adding new items to the game to acquire is really off the mark. As if they are adding items just to stress out the hoarders of UO. Pretty ridiculous in my opinion. 

I am saying, that I find it uncool to add, with each Event, LOTS of new items to collect BUT, along with these new additions, there is hardly anything done to increase players' storage capacity.

The drops from Hythloth also add up... suit after suit, it is tens, hundreds of extra new items.... and now the Demonic Heads, tens and tens and tens extra new items to collect.... and then we have the new Windows and then we have also... etc. etc. etc.

And this is, Event after Event after Event....

All of these items add up and become, easily, after a few Events, THOUSANDS of extra new items to find room for.... yet, I do not see anyting done to help out players to increase their storage capacity.

Of course that all of this adds stress to gameplay....

Throw away older items ?

While a possibility, those items TOOK TIME to collect them... throwing them away would mean just cancelling out all of the time spent to gather them....

Take, for example, the items that players are collecting now in Hythloth and Tokuno, they have been costing hours, days, weeks of farming to collect to make suits or a complete Heads collection.... imagine how, a few months down the road, or a Year from now, in order to make room to new items which then will be made available, the same player who, today, has spent countless time to gather Hythloth drops and Tokuno Demonic Heads, will need to throw them away to make room for whatever new items will be made available down the road... what is the point of spending time today to collect them, if tomorrow they will have to be discarded to make room for whatever new items will be designed and introduced ?

I am sorry, but personally, I do find it uncool to see new items added, and a lot of them, without, alongside with their addition, ALSO increasing players' ability to store them.

At least, that is how I see it.

I didn’t say throw them away. I recommend selling what you don’t want. Lower prices over time… things eventually sell. I wouldn't throw stuff in the trash either. 

Anyone who gets stressed out over a Video game, is doing it wrong, just sayin.

Marge said:

keven2002 said:

Wait another week or so and they will probably be thrown on the ground as they aren't worth any cleanup points (stupid).

No need to wait a week; I picked up 5 of them from the ground today. LOL

As to why the developers made another set of collectibles and no new storage space; that's easy. They have learned that we UO players love to collect and hoard full sets of anything forever. In order to store more, we have to open another account. More accounts equals more money. It's actually a smart business move on their side.

If you don't want to open another account to store your collectibles; identify as Elsa and Let It Go!

I refuse to open another account for storage purposes. For me, this is a matter of principle.

Subscription games, and this is a change that has been going on for a while, are an older type of playing, lots and lots of games now, are free to play or base their funding on micro-transactions.

I think that it should be valued that a game as old as Ultima Online has still players willing to pay a subscription to play.

But, honestly, I would never ever go with paying for "another" account in order to store items because the current storage options are, at least to my opinion, not sufficient, and could be improved, especially if lots and lots of new items get introduced with new Events and content.

No thank you, if I am pressed to that point, I would then "move on", and spend whatever entertainment time I may have available with some of the plenty of games that are out there and, at that point, stop playing Ultima Online for good... time is limited, and if I play one game, cannot play another.... then why spend for a subscription for a game one does not play any longer ?

Personally, I think that it would be better for Ultima Online if its current players were given better, more expanded ways to increase their storage capabilities rather then not, to the point that then, some among them might be brought to a point where they have to make a call, whether to pay for another account for storage purposes, or stop playing Ultima Online for good since they either cannot enjoy the new content for lack of space to store the new items added, or they have to throw away older items which they worked on to get, in order to make room for the newer ones....

While some might pick the additional account option, how many would instead pick the option to stop playing UO for good thus becoming a permanent loss for the game ? Would those creating a new subscribed account be more then those instead choosing stopping playing UO for good for lack of additional storage ?

Is it worth, for Ultima Online, to take the risk of wanting to loose any more players over storage issues ?

Instead, UO could raise its revenues if they sold an additional Bank and Storage increase expansion considering that the last +20% one was sold over 10 Years ago in 2009 ?), rather then risking losing paying customers who, rather then open additional accounts, where to chose the stopping of playing UO althougether.....

@Mesanna , what do you think ?

popps said:

Is it worth, for Ultima Online, to take the risk of wanting to loose any more players over storage issues ?

Instead, UO could raise its revenues if they sold an additional Bank and Storage increase expansion considering that the last +20% one was sold over 10 Years ago in 2009 ?), rather then risking losing paying customers who, rather then open additional accounts, where to chose the stopping of playing UO althougether.....

@ Mesanna , what do you think ?

Seth said:

Free storage is available, use EJ account's character backpack. Unlimited accounts = unlimited free storage.  😂

Perfect work around if @popps doesn't want to pay money to play the game. These masks are 1stone each so an EJ toon could easily hold 100+ in their pack no problem (ie 2 common sets). I'm sure his next post will say that he wants like 6 full sets or something dumb.

Anyways this thread is pretty far off topic as they tend to go when popps inserts his opinion (we are now talking about storage limits).

That's what I do Marge. I had a dream once of  having a full gift box collection...spent millions of gold and finally realized it wasn't going to happen so I sold them all but the rare ones for like 500g or 1k gold to give others who may want them a chance.

I had a full set of easter bunnies...every city every color....now I have one lol. I still have a full set of Geese...those are probably going to go next. Platinum Dragon Statues? Full set...I am still trying to work them into my deco somehow but if I can't they will go too.

Popps...it's kinda like real life....do you have everything you've ever owned since the day you were born? You purge.....donate...sell...hand me down.....do the same in game....you don't HAVE to keep every pixel. 

keven2002 said:

Seth said:

Free storage is available, use EJ account's character backpack. Unlimited accounts = unlimited free storage.  😂

Perfect work around if @ popps doesn't want to pay money to play the game. These masks are 1stone each so an EJ toon could easily hold 100+ in their pack no problem (ie 2 common sets). I'm sure his next post will say that he wants like 6 full sets or something dumb.

Anyways this thread is pretty far off topic as they tend to go when popps inserts his opinion (we are now talking about storage limits).

No worries I think we r still on topic, and the ej free backpack storage is definitely a cool solution, for him  😂  

I don't know how someone has only one account and still has storage space.

My houses are always full.

Marge said:

One Time $20 fee for upgraded storage or $10 (at least with time tokens more for the monthly charge) a month forever for a new account? Plus the added bonus of telling stock holders you raised subscriptions on a 24 year old game? No contest.

I do not doubt, that there might be players out there paying for an extra account just for storage purposes.... yet, I would be susprised to learn that there might be "more" players deciding to put out even more money, per month, every month, on a game as old as Ultima Online is (when there is plenty games out there to spend one's own entertainment time on, and many do not require a subscription to be played...), just to help them out with added storage needs, as there might instead be players who, when they reach a point where it becomes a nuisance for them to accomodate the new items that they collect from New Events, because of lack of storage, who might decide that continue playing might not be worth the hassle and stop althougether....

One first starts to fill up one own House and Banks of the 7 characters.... then they start filling up the main backpack of those characters less used in the account, then they fill up Blue Beetles on those characters (which it then means that these characters can no longer be played, being loaded with items...), then they start opening EJ accounts to use their main backpacks and then it becomes a nightmare.... to remember what character is holding what item... having to open up multiple clients in order to look where is what, transfer items from A to B etc. etc. all of which, time consuming, and no fun at all....

Eventually, a player having to deal with all that to find room for new items, might think that this is no fun playing, they have characters in their account which they cannot play with, because they hold stuff, they spend countless time looking for anything, and, eventually, decide that it is time to move elsewhere, to other games, for good...

All this, because players' issues with increased storage needs are not addressed ?

Seriously ?

It is better to risk losing players, and their subscriptions, over this storage issues ?

I would really love to learn whether this status quo of players' lack of storage issues has earned more subscriptions to UO, or has more caused UO players to move for good to other games, over the Years...

So a player is going to quit because they can not hold more stuff?

Sounds like that stuff was not that important after all.

Mariah said:

This issue has been addressed multiple times and the developers made their stance clear. Your options are:

1. additional garden sheds

2. Be more discerning about what to keep and what not to keep

3. Invest in an additional account

Any further demands in this vein will be removed.

Larisa said:

I had a full set of easter bunnies...every city every color....now I have one lol. I still have a full set of Geese...those are probably going to go next. Platinum Dragon Statues? Full set...I am still trying to work them into my deco somehow but if I can't they will go too.

I'm terrible i keep nothing anymore but do have 210 roast pigs locked down because Garr Grimbeard is slightly crazy..

Marge said:

Larisa said:

I had a full set of easter bunnies...every city every color....now I have one lol. I still have a full set of Geese...those are probably going to go next. Platinum Dragon Statues? Full set...I am still trying to work them into my deco somehow but if I can't they will go too.

LOL! I'm doing the same with my bunnies. I almost have them all or maybe I do .. I really need to go thru them again. Once it's completed I'll sell all but my blue ones. I have fun just slowly collecting them all.

I collect the holiday bells - the original set and the 6th anniversary ones. I had to make room so I kept a set of the anniversary ones and sold the rest of those. The holiday ones I'm keeping til the end - even if that means shipping them to other shards to hold in toons banks.

I collect the holiday bells - the original set and the 6th anniversary ones.

Recently, on a Shard I play, a player said in General Chat that he needed to make room, and was selling his Holiday Bells or, if noone was buying, he'd turn them in for Clean Up Points (12,500 points per bell).

I felt bad for such a loss in the game, I wanted to buy them to integrate my collection but, pressed by storage issues, was hexitant... the player did not wait much, and then threw them into the trash to get clean up points....

So, now, these Bells are gone for good..... 

popps said:

Marge said:

Larisa said:

I had a full set of easter bunnies...every city every color....now I have one lol. I still have a full set of Geese...those are probably going to go next. Platinum Dragon Statues? Full set...I am still trying to work them into my deco somehow but if I can't they will go too.

LOL! I'm doing the same with my bunnies. I almost have them all or maybe I do .. I really need to go thru them again. Once it's completed I'll sell all but my blue ones. I have fun just slowly collecting them all.

I collect the holiday bells - the original set and the 6th anniversary ones. I had to make room so I kept a set of the anniversary ones and sold the rest of those. The holiday ones I'm keeping til the end - even if that means shipping them to other shards to hold in toons banks.

I collect the holiday bells - the original set and the 6th anniversary ones.

Recently, on a Shard I play, a player said in General Chat that he needed to make room, and was selling his Holiday Bells or, if noone was buying, he'd turn them in for Clean Up Points (12,500 points per bell).

I felt bad for such a loss in the game, I wanted to buy them to integrate my collection but, pressed by storage issues, was hexitant... the player did not wait much, and then threw them into the trash to get clean up points....

So, now, these Bells are gone for good..... 

Nothing lasts forever...and they had same options as everyone 

Yeah the bells, I wasn't around for but every time I see one or the statues I save them.

They are buried in a box because they don't suit my deco but that's one of the few things I can't seem to get rid of.



My very meager collection but I do like them.

Larisa said:

Yeah the bells, I wasn't around for but every time I see one or the statues I save them.

They are buried in a box because they don't suit my deco but that's one of the few things I can't seem to get rid of.



My very meager collection but I do like them.

Yarrrr but have ye ever got four roast pigs off one dread pirate dats da day me's won UO 

Larisa said:

Yeah the bells, I wasn't around for but every time I see one or the statues I save them.

They are buried in a box because they don't suit my deco but that's one of the few things I can't seem to get rid of.



My very meager collection but I do like them.

Eh, those statues...

I have been looking for Holiday 2001/2002 Surfers statues, those with a name... have not seen one in ages...

popps said:

Marge said:

Larisa said:

I had a full set of easter bunnies...every city every color....now I have one lol. I still have a full set of Geese...those are probably going to go next. Platinum Dragon Statues? Full set...I am still trying to work them into my deco somehow but if I can't they will go too.

LOL! I'm doing the same with my bunnies. I almost have them all or maybe I do .. I really need to go thru them again. Once it's completed I'll sell all but my blue ones. I have fun just slowly collecting them all.

I collect the holiday bells - the original set and the 6th anniversary ones. I had to make room so I kept a set of the anniversary ones and sold the rest of those. The holiday ones I'm keeping til the end - even if that means shipping them to other shards to hold in toons banks.

I collect the holiday bells - the original set and the 6th anniversary ones.

Recently, on a Shard I play, a player said in General Chat that he needed to make room, and was selling his Holiday Bells or, if noone was buying, he'd turn them in for Clean Up Points (12,500 points per bell).

I felt bad for such a loss in the game, I wanted to buy them to integrate my collection but, pressed by storage issues, was hexitant... the player did not wait much, and then threw them into the trash to get clean up points....

So, now, these Bells are gone for good..... 

TY for that info because it just made my collection more valuable.

 Many viable solutions that have been suggested.