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Increasing size of ring gumps

Started by Drago · 2021-10-12 · 58 posts · General Discussions
#0
Has this been considered? They're really small in today's game resolution for most players.  I can't imagine this requiring alot of heavy lifting.
  • Its a circular object. Should only be few artwork files to update.  No need to update multiple frames to turn object etc.. and no animation
  • They're hard to see on auction safes.  Object handler doesn't work well when safes are in a large house with other items.
#1
Maybe just drop the garg only on garg rings and bracs and make all the jewels those graphics. Much larger and much easier to see the garg jewels. And never made sense to me that gargs can wear the tiny human/elf jewels but humans/elves can't wear the garg jewels.
#2
They need to resize the ring and bracelet for both clients. For Classic the Talisman is bigger than the man's head, I think we can throw at a mongbat to kill it.
#3
no, its one of the only things that doesnt take up much pack space or vendor backback space.  keep them small

#4
EC can afford them to be big, we have to squint our eyes to find the little dot. 
#5
Seth said:
EC can afford them to be big, we have to squint our eyes to find the little dot. 

CC can as well since most people put them in bags inside of the pack instead of having them scattered all of the pack and trying to find the little things.
#6
they are too small.
I wouldn't want them as big as the gargoyle ring
because at one glance, we can tell them apart.

in CC, it hurts my eyes to try to find them in my backpack
(they blend in too much)
And it takes long time to try to target them for insurance
(which is why I find myself playing EC more & more)
#7
“Use the item insurance menu instead”
#8
Make them the same general size as the Gargoyle ring, but a different shape. 
#9
Make them the same general size as the Gargoyle ring, but a different shape. 
Don't start making sense now  ;)
#10
Yoshi said:
“Use the item insurance menu instead”
that works to insure it
which also makes it easier to read the stats on the ring.
but what if you have more than one ring & they are the same color?
sometimes it takes a bit to hover over the ring
you have to do it just right.

usually that is when I will switch to EC
because I can use a search feature to find what I need.
There are people who will never switch to EC
(i used to be one of those people, because it hurts my eyes
but the more I have played it, it hurts my eyes when I log into CC)
#11
Tyrath said:
Seth said:
EC can afford them to be big, we have to squint our eyes to find the little dot. 

CC can as well since most people put them in bags inside of the pack instead of having them scattered all of the pack and trying to find the little things.
Yes ofcourse, but as Smoot says the CC backpack is small. Perhaps they need to make the cc backpack bigger first.
#12
Can't you decrease gump size in CC?
#13
I tossed a ring around this corpse and it is so hard to find it. Can anyone locate the ring in like 3 seconds? The jewels need to be made bigger.




#14
Found it... Took 10+ seconds. 

Nocturn earrings, Jaana's Staff, swamp tile reward from spawn drops, pitchforks are also very hard to find in packs.
#15
Why are we so against anything that helps someone are we really so selfish..
#16
Coming from the guy that wants a players Giant Beetle to go wild because he fears some made up EJ conspiracy.
#17
Pawain said:
Coming from the guy that wants a players Giant Beetle to go wild because he fears some made up EJ conspiracy.
Yet weeks in not a single pack animal lost....
#18
Morgoth said:
Found it... Took 10+ seconds. 

That's not it, it's just the dust or dead pixel on your monitor
#19
Aragorn said:
Morgoth said:
Found it... Took 10+ seconds. 

That's not it, it's just the dust or dead pixel on your monitor
 😂  I found 3 pieces of dust on my phone.  I still don't see a ring.
#20
Spoiler...  Far right column... Sixth row down


#21
Aragorn said:
Morgoth said:
Found it... Took 10+ seconds. 

That's not it, it's just the dust or dead pixel on your monitor
 😂 
#22
You get used to searching because the jewelry box ignores the open spot at top of your pack and just inserts it anywhere whillynilly like
#23
I found it in Two seconds. But then I’ve been using EC for years and am now trained in the art of finding tiny things in yer pack.   And for you Excel junkies it’s in F13
#24
I found it in Two seconds. But then I’ve been using EC for years and am now trained in the art of finding tiny things in yer pack.   And for you Excel junkies it’s in F13

You must be young and vibrant, maybe 20-years old only...

It's still better to be bigger, so when we are tired we can find anything in under 0.5 seconds. Sometimes we are so tired that we didn't even see the huge Paragon Balron in the room before running in. It's always good to be as big as possible.
#25
Nope not twenty, but I have underwear that is.  And in case you didn’t notice I am an advocate for it, I even made a suggestion about making it the size of Gargs ring but giving it a different look.  It’s several posts up. 
#26
Seth said:
I found it in Two seconds. But then I’ve been using EC for years and am now trained in the art of finding tiny things in yer pack.   And for you Excel junkies it’s in F13

You must be young and vibrant, maybe 20-years old only...

It's still better to be bigger, so when we are tired we can find anything in under 0.5 seconds. Sometimes we are so tired that we didn't even see the huge Paragon Balron in the room before running in. It's always good to be as big as possible.
This ridicules suggestion that the developers should cater to their aging players is absurd quality of life pffttt
#27
McDougle said:
Seth said:
I found it in Two seconds. But then I’ve been using EC for years and am now trained in the art of finding tiny things in yer pack.   And for you Excel junkies it’s in F13

You must be young and vibrant, maybe 20-years old only...

It's still better to be bigger, so when we are tired we can find anything in under 0.5 seconds. Sometimes we are so tired that we didn't even see the huge Paragon Balron in the room before running in. It's always good to be as big as possible.
This ridicules suggestion that the developers should cater to their aging players is absurd quality of life pffttt
Quality of life, you mean Bacon?
#28
😂
#29
McDougle said:
Seth said:
I found it in Two seconds. But then I’ve been using EC for years and am now trained in the art of finding tiny things in yer pack.   And for you Excel junkies it’s in F13

You must be young and vibrant, maybe 20-years old only...

It's still better to be bigger, so when we are tired we can find anything in under 0.5 seconds. Sometimes we are so tired that we didn't even see the huge Paragon Balron in the room before running in. It's always good to be as big as possible.
This ridicules suggestion that the developers should cater to their aging players is absurd quality of life pffttt
Quality of life, you mean Bacon?

   I WILL BE ABLE TO EAT BACON AGAIN TOMORROW AFTERNOON! 
#30
Tyrath said:
McDougle said:
Seth said:
I found it in Two seconds. But then I’ve been using EC for years and am now trained in the art of finding tiny things in yer pack.   And for you Excel junkies it’s in F13

You must be young and vibrant, maybe 20-years old only...

It's still better to be bigger, so when we are tired we can find anything in under 0.5 seconds. Sometimes we are so tired that we didn't even see the huge Paragon Balron in the room before running in. It's always good to be as big as possible.
This ridicules suggestion that the developers should cater to their aging players is absurd quality of life pffttt
Quality of life, you mean Bacon?

   I WILL BE ABLE TO EAT BACON AGAIN TOMORROW AFTERNOON! 
*PRESSES LIKE*
#31
Quality of life -> Bacons -> Big, huge rings...


#32
This thread is starting to be fun and will soon receive a frowny face 
#33
McDougle said:
This thread is starting to be fun and will soon receive a frowny face 
Frown will cause more visible wrinkles in the face.

Make the ring bigger, and more visible, and you will look younger instantly with less wrinkles.
#34
I vote yes for bigger wrinkles 

Wait rings yeah bigger rings 
#35
McDougle said:
I vote yes for bigger wrinkles 

Wait rings yeah bigger rings 
 😂 
#36
Has this thread completely finished with the intended topic?
#37
Mariah said:
Has this thread completely finished with the intended topic?
*Hands @Mariah a Bacon Sammich*  I would say, that most likely it has indeed reached it's conclusion. We would like larger rings, we offered suggestions for said improvement. any more discussion will likely be in reference to Bacon and or Puppies.
#38
Greta agrees 
#39
#40
Now it should be about the EC vs CC....

At least if you're using that horrible slot view in the EC you can eventually find a small item in the EC without having to move 8763786348634 things.

Find a ring or a bracelet in the CC during a Treasures Of event when you get one as a drop.

You get the message and immediately look in your pack so you can insure it and sure as spit you can't see it :/

It's not like my backpack is cluttered...I'm a mage/tamer...I don't need to carry a million things...just my runebooks 🙂



There is TONS of nice open, available space for a ring to fall in...but NOOOOOOooo...it has to go BEHIND a runebook.....so I have to move EVERY...SINGLE...ONE...until I find it.

Ask Greta, she'll tell you!



#41
We can have CC containers in EC can CC not get EC containers?
#42
Larisa said:
Now it should be about the EC vs CC....

At least if you're using that horrible slot view in the EC you can eventually find a small item in the EC without having to move 8763786348634 things.

Find a ring or a bracelet in the CC during a Treasures Of event when you get one as a drop.

You get the message and immediately look in your pack so you can insure it and sure as spit you can't see it :/

It's not like my backpack is cluttered...I'm a mage/tamer...I don't need to carry a million things...just my runebooks 🙂



There is TONS of nice open, available space for a ring to fall in...but NOOOOOOooo...it has to go BEHIND a runebook.....so I have to move EVERY...SINGLE...ONE...until I find it.

Ask Greta, she'll tell you!



You forgot the Bacon @Larisa
#43

Larisa said:
Now it should be about the EC vs CC....

At least if you're using that horrible slot view in the EC you can eventually find a small item in the EC without having to move 8763786348634 things.

Find a ring or a bracelet in the CC during a Treasures Of event when you get one as a drop.

You get the message and immediately look in your pack so you can insure it and sure as spit you can't see it :/

It's not like my backpack is cluttered...I'm a mage/tamer...I don't need to carry a million things...just my runebooks 🙂



There is TONS of nice open, available space for a ring to fall in...but NOOOOOOooo...it has to go BEHIND a runebook.....so I have to move EVERY...SINGLE...ONE...until I find it.

Ask Greta, she'll tell you!




Yes, CC should get a bigger backpack with search functions, a better macro system, bigger ring and bracelet graphics, and more bacon!
#44
Ohh no...the bacon is in there...you just can't see it because it's HIDING UNDER ONE OF THE RUNEBOOKS!!!! ARGHHH!!!! (In classic Charlie Brown Style)

I deal with it though....I can never get the dress macro in the CC to work correctly so if I die and for some reason can't use my undertaker staff it's a PITA trying to find my jewelry but such is life lol.
#45
I'm a mage tamer and carry 90 things usually. I took out a bag for the event so I'm down to 67 things.
#46
There really is no problem in EC, while it may be tricky to find in grid view, list view will show it easily.
#47
Mariah said:
There really is no problem in EC, while it may be tricky to find in grid view, list view will show it easily.
Shall we assume the ability to use artwork is one way ? CC works in EC but not the other way?
#48
🙂 I'm not saying a larger graphic wouldn't be helpful, just that there is a solution in EC, so it's less of a problem.
#49
Larisa said:
I can never get the dress macro in the CC to work correctly so if I die and for some reason can't use my undertaker staff it's a PITA trying to find my jewelry but such is life lol.
You need to keep the record dress key to be able to use the dress macro in cc. Since it's so useful I hope that you get it working.
#50
Chrille said:
Larisa said:
I can never get the dress macro in the CC to work correctly so if I die and for some reason can't use my undertaker staff it's a PITA trying to find my jewelry but such is life lol.
You need to keep the record dress key to be able to use the dress macro in cc. Since it's so useful I hope that you get it working.
Oh I do.

I have my record dress and Dress set to my numbers keypad, no keys I use on a regular basis. I've tried to delete / reset multiple times and it never works...so frusterating.

#51
Numbers keypad and macros in cc isn't working that well, you usually have to turn num lock off for the game to recognise the keys and it's also a problem with them being saved (if you use non us keyboard setup). If you try set it to other keys it will probably work.
#52
Mariah said:
🙂 I'm not saying a larger graphic wouldn't be helpful, just that there is a solution in EC, so it's less of a problem.

The list view helps but its not efficient.  The gump to text ratio is too big and you're reduced to x # of items you can see. I only use list view for re-forging as it makes it easier.   If there was way to macro backview change, I could live with that.  The other issue is that the darker color rings dont mold well with the backdrop and with their size, still very hard to see.  Changing background color only reverts the same problem to another object.

The rings don't even need a new graphic.  Just update the dimensions on the art files. if they were 75% - 100% larger,  it'd be perfect.

#53
Frankly speaking, I have no idea why a simple suggestion as increasing the size of a tiny pixel is so difficult and requires so much debate while the talisman in the classic client is bigger than the head. Maybe someone is afraid the monsters can't see that this character is "wearing" a talisman. 

#54
Larisa said:
Now it should be about the EC vs CC....

At least if you're using that horrible slot view in the EC you can eventually find a small item in the EC without having to move 8763786348634 things.

Find a ring or a bracelet in the CC during a Treasures Of event when you get one as a drop.

You get the message and immediately look in your pack so you can insure it and sure as spit you can't see it :/

It's not like my backpack is cluttered...I'm a mage/tamer...I don't need to carry a million things...just my runebooks 🙂



There is TONS of nice open, available space for a ring to fall in...but NOOOOOOooo...it has to go BEHIND a runebook.....so I have to move EVERY...SINGLE...ONE...until I find it.

Ask Greta, she'll tell you!



You forgot the Bacon @ Larisa

 LOL remember that time I left a trail of Bacon all the way from your Zento house to my Zento house on Siege 🙂

  Still seems to me getting rid of the Garg Rings and Bracs is the best approach.  Never made sense to me that Gargs can wear human/elf jewels but humans/elfs can't wear Garg jewels.  Just make all jewels the Garg models and let every race wear them.
#55
I don't understand why Elves can wear human and Elf armor, Gargs can wear reg and Garg jewels, Females can wear male and female armor but Human males can only wear human male armor. 

Outstanding idea about the jewelry problem
@Tyrath ;Just make all jewels the Garg models and let every race wear them.
#56
Large gargoyle frowns no take  big ring give swampy armor puny hummie
#57
Tyrath said:
Larisa said:
Now it should be about the EC vs CC....

At least if you're using that horrible slot view in the EC you can eventually find a small item in the EC without having to move 8763786348634 things.

Find a ring or a bracelet in the CC during a Treasures Of event when you get one as a drop.

You get the message and immediately look in your pack so you can insure it and sure as spit you can't see it :/

It's not like my backpack is cluttered...I'm a mage/tamer...I don't need to carry a million things...just my runebooks 🙂



There is TONS of nice open, available space for a ring to fall in...but NOOOOOOooo...it has to go BEHIND a runebook.....so I have to move EVERY...SINGLE...ONE...until I find it.

Ask Greta, she'll tell you!



You forgot the Bacon @ Larisa

 LOL remember that time I left a trail of Bacon all the way from your Zento house to my Zento house on Siege 🙂

  Still seems to me getting rid of the Garg Rings and Bracs is the best approach.  Never made sense to me that Gargs can wear human/elf jewels but humans/elfs can't wear Garg jewels.  Just make all jewels the Garg models and let every race wear them.
*BUUUUUURRRP* Sure do, best day I had in-game in years. +1 to Tyraths Idea, probably the easiest thing to do coding wise. 
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