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Wildfire almost over and

Started by ActionElly · 2021-08-25 · 38 posts · General Discussions
#0
I didn't get enough drops from this event to get anything on my own. I played every day for at least an hour sometimes a lot more and I couldn't even get the ostard. No, I didn't play a Sampire I don't have one finished yet. I used my tamer and archer.

I had to buy over 100 drops to get the ostard and we're now at the end of the event and I won't be able to get anything else without buying even more drops from someone. This really really bums me out. 🙁

Anyone else have this issue?
#1
"What shard are you playing on?
On Atlantic The ostards are cheap to buy in comparison to other drops because the ostards were farmed on dead shards (fel) and imported. I was able to sell 2 x earrings at 75 per drop and buy an imported ostard (200 drops) with 30 mill profit."
#2
I play a mage and got around 200 drops just working mostly the mage room, fire elemental area, sometimes the cemetery and in general just that first part of the dungeon.  I worked with other players in the dungeon to solo lava ele and demon paras as I could not solo those.  Just killed everything I saw.  Think the key is to just kill things you can kill quickly.  Don’t spend a lot of time trying to solo stuff that takes you fifteen minutes or so to kill.  Got killed a lot as well. To be honest sold a lot of my drops. As fairly new player and not a tamer I  just did not see much in the reward list that would be of much use to me  esp. when it would wear out if I used it.  Hope that you get more drops this week.
#3
I pretty much recall into the fire elemental area (across the rope), then to the mages (2nd level, farthest building from stairs), and then do stuff around the entrance. I get more drops doing that then, when the guild appears and we go kill everything as we walk in.
#4
I7ActionElly said:
I didn't get enough drops from this event to get anything on my own. I played every day for at least an hour sometimes a lot more and I couldn't even get the ostard. No, I didn't play a Sampire I don't have one finished yet. I used my tamer and archer.

I had to buy over 100 drops to get the ostard and we're now at the end of the event and I won't be able to get anything else without buying even more drops from someone. This really really bums me out. 🙁

Anyone else have this issue?
Rub your luck statue. Use the archer. A cold damage Demon bow wear a flame tali if you can.

Go full speed most normal things are 1 to 3 shots lesser paragons are three shots. 

I have followed a robo melee toon around. My archer can kill 98% of the mobs before he can swing at them.

I have found my archer can get a lot more kills/minute than any other toon.
If you equip them for the targets.
#5
@ActionElly

Ask Kragg for some drops.
#6
@ActionElly A Sampire really seems to be the best on these events, in my experience anyway. I got an ostard and several other rewards, hoarded a couple of hundred to make suits out of and even gave a friend 30 to help her with getting what she wanted. just my opinion, but I'd sink the time into finishing the Sampire.
#7
@ ActionElly A Sampire really seems to be the best on these events, in my experience anyway. I got an ostard and several other rewards, hoarded a couple of hundred to make suits out of and even gave a friend 30 to help her with getting what she wanted. just my opinion, but I'd sink the time into finishing the Sampire.
Im sure she only plays in Tram,

Id put my archer up against any Sampire for speed killing in this dungeon.  Only hounds ever spawn in packs where WW could be used.  Like I said if its not a paragon it will be dead while you are riding towards it, then Ill be on the next one before you get to it.

And Sampire?  What do you need the extra LL for with Necro?  It does not work on Paragons.
I prefer my melee toons with healing over my Sampire.

I also encourage her to make a melee toon so she can kill the paragons faster at the future dungeons.

If you are talking about Fel in the spawn then you have the WW crowds. And it is too crowded for the Archer to kill them fast enough.

#8
As I said in my experience a Sampire is best. I forgot to mention that I swapped out healing for parry or resist for this one.  I'm happy with it's performance and will wait to see what Paragons show up in the next "Treasures of" before deciding on the template
#9
First of all, my status is "old man with lots of time" and I used my archer with slayer bows, cold bows and a talisman for each category and using EC to quickly switch to each when needed.  I got killed a lot and got better but still had many deaths.  However it was all worth it, I got 3 Ostards, 1 Ring, 2 Skulls, 1 each of all the other items excluding the weapons 1400 points total.  So all you archers, don't take a back seat to those Sampires, you're perfectly capable (with the right bows, talis and info) to get almost as many as them or perhaps even more than they do.
#10
#11
Well thanks everyone, I thought I was killing pretty fast. I do like these events I just can't seem to get the drops.

Yeah, I didn't play in fel. 😂 I mean I do a lot of stuff in fel, Just not the events.
#12
Pawain has a good point - be sure you are hitting your luck statue everyday. Depends on your account age but all luck helps. Also the 140 luck robe and minax sandals (or soles of prov - 80 luck) are added little bumps. You def get more drops with more luck.

Good thing is that for the next event we will have potions of fortune again which will further bump drop rate (I hope the Devs don't decide to bump up price of rewards based on that).
#13
ok man.... 1 hour a day.  with 0 luck i get 5 drops on average per fel fire champ.  15 mins per champ.  thats 20 drops in your one hour.  
#14
I didn't get enough drops from this event to get anything on my own. I played every day for at least an hour sometimes a lot more and I couldn't even get the ostard. No, I didn't play a Sampire I don't have one finished yet. I used my tamer and archer.

I had to buy over 100 drops to get the ostard and we're now at the end of the event and I won't be able to get anything else without buying even more drops from someone. This really really bums me out. 🙁

Anyone else have this issue?

I HAD that issue.  I'm going to give you some advice.  Finish your Sampire.  For the Deceit event I was you.  I struggled to get 50 drops, then the winter event I got 100 but it took me just about the entire event cycle.  These events aren't built for Tamers,  they are built for Sampires.  Archer's are fine but still limited because of lack of AOE.  Follow the Sampire 101 videos on youtube.  Good luck man. 
#15
Well thanks everyone, I thought I was killing pretty fast. I do like these events I just can't seem to get the drops.

Yeah, I didn't play in fel. 😂 I mean I do a lot of stuff in fel, Just not the events.

I get 5-20 drops per spawn in Fel depending on how many people are there.  Spawns take less then an hour even when I'm solo.  You just need a bard or a healer for the paragons.
#16
I got my 9 pages for the Lore book and I am very happy about it. 
#17
There is already an ingame system designed by our intelligent predecessors in uo.com.

It's called shard transfer.

Whoever created shard bound for items is just making the game so much more complicated without serving any tangible benefits other than work around and more confusion for returning and new players.
#18
Seth said:
There is already an ingame system designed by our intelligent predecessors in uo.com.

It's called shard transfer.

Whoever created shard bound for items is just making the game so much more complicated without serving any tangible benefits other than work around and more confusion for returning and new players.
I totally disagree with this.  A benefit of the rewards being shard bound is that the players on my shard farming this event aren't going to turn around and bring those items to Atlantic.  They will stay in our shard's economy.  That's a good thing.

#19
Foos said:
Seth said:
There is already an ingame system designed by our intelligent predecessors in uo.com.

It's called shard transfer.

Whoever created shard bound for items is just making the game so much more complicated without serving any tangible benefits other than work around and more confusion for returning and new players.
I totally disagree with this.  A benefit of the rewards being shard bound is that the players on my shard farming this event aren't going to turn around and bring those items to Atlantic.  They will stay in our shard's economy.  That's a good thing.

I agree i play and earned enough to get mask and misc on two shards and ozzy and misc on my main shard 
#20
Yoshi said:
"What shard are you playing on?
On Atlantic The ostards are cheap to buy in comparison to other drops because the ostards were farmed on dead shards (fel) and imported. I was able to sell 2 x earrings at 75 per drop and buy an imported ostard (200 drops) with 30 mill profit."
How much do Ostards sell for on Atlantic ?
#21
Foos said:
Seth said:
There is already an ingame system designed by our intelligent predecessors in uo.com.

It's called shard transfer.

Whoever created shard bound for items is just making the game so much more complicated without serving any tangible benefits other than work around and more confusion for returning and new players.
I totally disagree with this.  A benefit of the rewards being shard bound is that the players on my shard farming this event aren't going to turn around and bring those items to Atlantic.  They will stay in our shard's economy.  That's a good thing.

Absolutely !

I have said it many times, Shard Bound, to my opinion, is a blessing for the economy of lower population Shards.

As seen with the Wildfire Ostards, the split second that a new item can be transferred to Atlantic, it does... and in being transferred, it goes "away" from the Shard that it was farmed on....
#22
Foos said:
I didn't get enough drops from this event to get anything on my own. I played every day for at least an hour sometimes a lot more and I couldn't even get the ostard. No, I didn't play a Sampire I don't have one finished yet. I used my tamer and archer.

I had to buy over 100 drops to get the ostard and we're now at the end of the event and I won't be able to get anything else without buying even more drops from someone. This really really bums me out. 🙁

Anyone else have this issue?

I HAD that issue.  I'm going to give you some advice.  Finish your Sampire.  For the Deceit event I was you.  I struggled to get 50 drops, then the winter event I got 100 but it took me just about the entire event cycle.  These events aren't built for Tamers,  they are built for Sampires.  Archer's are fine but still limited because of lack of AOE.  Follow the Sampire 101 videos on youtube.  Good luck man. 

"These events aren't built for Tamers,  they are built for Sampires." 
@Kyronix ;

please, take note of the sentence above AND, please, make some changes to have the future Events be "also" for Tamers and other Templates, and not just for Warriors and Sampires....

For example, you could make Paragons take "more" damage from pets.... this way, players, rather then wanting to use Warriors/Sampires, would be incentivated to use Tamers... and these Events would "also" see a wider participation from Tamers....

Of course, this is only an example, more creative ways to make Templates other then Warriors/Sampires could be explored to make these Events not mostly a Warriors'/Sampires' domain.....

Thank you SO much.
#23
@popps
Use the correct slayer book on your tamer and you will kill them faster than anyone else can.

Also in Tram, why would you use a Sampire on a Paragon here?  Are you not aware that the 100 points in necro is wasted on them?  You do not get the only benefit a Sampire has over other melee toons.

Like I said Ill put my Archer against your sampire and see who kills faster in this dungeon in tram.

One of the players who got the most drops in Tram on LS played a Tamer this whole event.  He has been giving drops away for weeks.  We call him the Red CU Express!

I play my tamer at all other times.  I like this change of pace.  I played my Archer, Thrower, Swordsman, Fencer, and Macer. And made a new Tiger form warrior. Only needed my tamer if I was all alone and wanted a Para Balron dead.

Of all the dungeons so far, this was the most balanced one for templates.
#24
Pawain said:
@ popps
Use the correct slayer book on your tamer and you will kill them faster than anyone else can.

Also in Tram, why would you use a Sampire on a Paragon here?  Are you not aware that the 100 points in necro is wasted on them?  You do not get the only benefit a Sampire has over other melee toons.

Like I said Ill put my Archer against your sampire and see who kills faster in this dungeon in tram.

One of the players who got the most drops in Tram on LS played a Tamer this whole event.  He has been giving drops away for weeks.  We call him the Red CU Express!

I play my tamer at all other times.  I like this change of pace.  I played my Archer, Thrower, Swordsman, Fencer, and Macer. And made a new Tiger form warrior. Only needed my tamer if I was all alone and wanted a Para Balron dead.

Of all the dungeons so far, this was the most balanced one for templates.
Use the correct slayer book on your tamer and you will kill them faster than anyone else can.

I am using a Tamer/Mage/Spellweaver with Resisting Spells on so, no room for Evaluate Intelligence.

Also, I find myself in need to heal uninterruptedly my pet (also with Gift of Renewal on), especially with Paragons, to keep it alive so, I doubt, even if I swapped Resisting Spells with Evaluate Intelligence, that I would be able to cast sufficient offensive spells.

The problem with Paragons is that they deal a whole lot of damage, for example, with Paragon Succubus (forget about Paragon Balrons, those I cannot even touch...), if I do not keep my pet healed, it would go down in like 5 or 6 hits, maybe even less...

The pet is Chivalry/Armor Ignore and with all skills at 110 and 110 Chivalry... going towards 120.

So, it is a pet intended to do damage (I keep it healed, as I can), not a tank...

Unfortunately, with damage from pets being "halved", the damage done to Paragons is not as much as it should be... therefore, Paragons take a whole lot of time for me to kill them, with Paragon Balrons being impossible for me to deal with. Paragon Succubus, take like a whole lot, perhaps 7 or 8 minutes to kill and this, only if there is no side spawn around... Paragon Lich Lords are a bit better, still take about 5+ minutes to kill....


#25
I think you'll find that events are NOT planned with any particular template in mind, however players found that the hybrid template now known as a sampire do particularly well.
People are playing archers, tamers, regular warriors etc and I think most of them would agree that the best fun is when diverse templates team up to really show those paragons who's boss.
UO is a MMORPG - group play is the 'ideal'.
#26
The how's and why's have been explained many times....
#27
So question....I am playing solo these days. Guilds I have been in come and go....as have the friends I have made over the years.

Usually I have someone help me with gear/templates because my brain hurts every time I try to figure it out 🙁 lol

For this event, my sampire was not an option...I died...a LOT on her...and I don't know why. She was fine for the other Treasures Of events but this one kicked her butt hard core.

I know there are many many MANY templates and gear suggestions on the various forums but it makes my head swim looking at them all.

I have used my mage/tamer...Cu is not *leet* as I didn't have the 120's to fully flesh him out so he dies a lot to the higher-end paragons.

I do have a flame slayer tali on my samp but it didn't seem to help. This suit was made for me a few years ago....so is there something wrong with my gear or is it just user error? 🙂

My tamer fairs pretty well though as long as I avoid certain paragons lol.


#28
Are you using slayers for the different mobs? Also using weapons with elemental damage helps. Cold damage for most. Fire good for the undead.
#29
@Larisa I would say you may have had the same issue I had until I figured it out. Elemental and Demon are opposing slayer groups, i was fighting an elemental and then forgot to change to demon slayer and the demon then does double damage to you while wielding an elemental slayer weapon, and vice versa. sometimes my quick change macro would hang up or I'd forget. The other thing was I dropped resist and added healing.  that made a huge difference too. so it was a hybrid Sampire essentially it leeched and used bandies. I put my bandage self macro to one of the thumb buttons on my mouse (other one was trap box) and would just click it constantly to keep a bandage running to help with them damn Liches.  it took some thinking and strategy, but it worked out for me in the end.

#30
I am but most of my WW slayer weapons are 100% Fire Damage.  My bladed staffs are all physical and my radiant scimitars are mostly physical but some cold. I tend to use a WW weapon.




#31
Suit is fine. Eat a petal of trinsic when a paragon appears for more strength.
Use the correct weapons.
 Flame slayer allows you to kill the normal flame vulnerable mobs in one hit. The hounds take more. Very useful on para firesteeds.
In tram. I put on healing instead of necro. Vamp form does nothing on paragons a petal won't do. The normal mobs barely damage you.
Use a weapon with double strike or armor ignore. Swords has that easy.
#32
@popps why do you need resist? Use petals and apples.  You do no damage without eval.

You may as well be hitting them with a Smith's hammer.

The way I see it, you are too stubborn to take advice and kill stuff.


#33
Larisa said:
I am but most of my WW slayer weapons are 100% Fire Damage.  My bladed staffs are all physical and my radiant scimitars are mostly physical but some cold. I tend to use a WW weapon.




You can't be lazy and have to make the correct weapon. You can't even kill a normal fire daemon or fire ant with a 100% fire damage weapon unless you are casting consecrate weapon all the time as you have chiv. But if you are willing to cast consecraet weapon tirelessly why not spare half an hr to craft an 100% cold damage weapon which you will enjoy for the whole event? 
#34
We knew the dungeon was called Wildfire for months.  Did not take much to guess which dungeon it would be in.  You could have marked runes and lored mobs there to make weapons before the event started.
#35
I think they even confirmed for us a couple weeks before the event that it was in Fire.... was plenty of time to prepare. I think Pawain even gave a tutorial when it first started of what to use on what mobs. No excuses on lack of drops when you are working to be the most efficient. If you just "enjoy playing without the grind" then these events just aren;t for you. Remember that the WF Ostard started at 300 points.
#36
popps said:

"These events aren't built for Tamers,  they are built for Sampires." 
@ Kyronix 
@popps if you used the right pet you would find out that the right pet does this very well.
popps said:
Pawain said:
@ popps
Use the correct slayer book on your tamer and you will kill them faster than anyone else can.

Also in Tram, why would you use a Sampire on a Paragon here?  Are you not aware that the 100 points in necro is wasted on them?  You do not get the only benefit a Sampire has over other melee toons.

Like I said Ill put my Archer against your sampire and see who kills faster in this dungeon in tram.

One of the players who got the most drops in Tram on LS played a Tamer this whole event.  He has been giving drops away for weeks.  We call him the Red CU Express!

I play my tamer at all other times.  I like this change of pace.  I played my Archer, Thrower, Swordsman, Fencer, and Macer. And made a new Tiger form warrior. Only needed my tamer if I was all alone and wanted a Para Balron dead.

Of all the dungeons so far, this was the most balanced one for templates.
Use the correct slayer book on your tamer and you will kill them faster than anyone else can.

I am using a Tamer/Mage/Spellweaver with Resisting Spells on so, no room for Evaluate Intelligence.

Also, I find myself in need to heal uninterruptedly my pet (also with Gift of Renewal on), especially with Paragons, to keep it alive so, I doubt, even if I swapped Resisting Spells with Evaluate Intelligence, that I would be able to cast sufficient offensive spells.

The problem with Paragons is that they deal a whole lot of damage, for example, with Paragon Succubus (forget about Paragon Balrons, those I cannot even touch...), if I do not keep my pet healed, it would go down in like 5 or 6 hits, maybe even less...

The pet is Chivalry/Armor Ignore and with all skills at 110 and 110 Chivalry... going towards 120.

So, it is a pet intended to do damage (I keep it healed, as I can), not a tank...

Unfortunately, with damage from pets being "halved", the damage done to Paragons is not as much as it should be... therefore, Paragons take a whole lot of time for me to kill them, with Paragon Balrons being impossible for me to deal with. Paragon Succubus, take like a whole lot, perhaps 7 or 8 minutes to kill and this, only if there is no side spawn around... Paragon Lich Lords are a bit better, still take about 5+ minutes to kill....


And again the right pet and the right template would do wonders.  Your good old standard Tamer/Mage or Tamer/Mage/Discord with a self healing pet (there are 3 of them).
#37
For this event the way to go was the Semhidar spawn in Fel.  On Great Lakes we did it about 3-4 times per hour.  Depending on the ppl there you would get at least 4-5 per spawn if not more.  At least 20 per hour.  I only did this event for the last two weeks and got an ostard, the vorpal thing and a mask.  Wasn't too hard but you had to do in fel.  Not sure why everyone fears fel. Insure the drops when you get them. I got PK'ed exactly once. It slowed me down for 10 minutes. 

On the tram side the drops are way way too slow.  Too high end monsters and too long for spawns and lots of annoying paragons to deal with.  In the spawn with a sampire you whirlwind low end spawn 20 at a time.  Pops in your pack like mad.  
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