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Any advice on a Pet capable of killing Paragon Balrons ?

Started by popps · 2021-08-21 · 49 posts · General Discussions
#0
I have seen Dexers capable of solo killing Paragon Balrons, sure, it takes them some time, but they can do it.

As a Tamer, I have been trying to find a pet (and training) that would be able to kill a Paragon Balron, on its own, but so, far, was not able to come up with one...

As any other Tamer out there been able to find a Pet and a training that can take down on its own a Paragon Balron ?

Thanks for the advice !!
#1
All of them?? Seriously pops....
#2
If it sees my pet first, then my Chiv Ai Cu can
but i also cast spells on the the paragon with a Demon Slayer SDI spellbook

And this pet actually started killing them when it first got to a 4 slot pet.
before I started putting any power scrolls on it.

the only one I really have a problem with my CU
(without help from another tamer)
is the succubus
(And it tends to spawn the same day as the 
Balron, Daemon, lava elemental, and fire steeds
are everywhere)
#3
I have a Triton that can kill a Balron but it will hide under my skirt when it sees a Succubus or a Lava Elemental. I don't bother with fancy, smancy slayers as I like to just simply play and not get distracted by the gazillion different game mechanic angles. Okay, so I'll admit I'll wear some luck now and again and I have mana stuff. But that's about it. I know my limits and play accordingly. If I need help with a Lava or Succubus I'll ask for it.
#4
If it sees my pet first, then my Chiv Ai Cu can
but i also cast spells on the the paragon with a Demon Slayer SDI spellbook

And this pet actually started killing them when it first got to a 4 slot pet.
before I started putting any power scrolls on it.

the only one I really have a problem with my CU
(without help from another tamer)
is the succubus
(And it tends to spawn the same day as the 
Balron, Daemon, lava elemental, and fire steeds
are everywhere)
That is weird.

I use a frost Dragon and I can do Paragon Succubus.

Sure, I need a quiet surrounding with no side spawn, since I need to heavily heal it, but, I can do the Paragon Succubus. It takes forever, though....

I see dexers taking down Paragon Succubus in probably, 1/6th the time it takes me....

But the Paragon Balrons ?

No way. They do way more damage to my pet that I can heal.... and this, mind you, with Gift or Renewal active on the pet.... it is flat out impossible for me to do Paragon Balrons...
#5
From your many other post i recall you play a stealth tamer?
#6
Tamers kill them on LS.  As I stated in the guide I made. A balron two lowest resists are energy and cold. That fits a Cu perfectly.

Yes a pet takes longer. All you are doing is saying all kill. Hold a Demon slayer book and cast ebolt to speed it up.

Also dexxers are using slayer weapons with the correct damage type weapons.
Your pet does not have slayer teeth.
#7
Why are you using a Frost Dragon?
#8
If he is a stealth tamer i would bet he has no eval and is trying to heal his pet with greater heal
#9
Why are you using a Frost Dragon?
Frost dragon does cold and physical.  So he is 50% good.  But those have around 90 Phy resist.

I assume he chose it because they have 1000HP and he thought that was good.

A triton would also do same damage but they have healing and are less squishy than dragons. And they can heal.

Para Balrons have so many HP that it takes forever to do them with just a pet and no player damage.
#10
Pawain said:
Why are you using a Frost Dragon?
Frost dragon does cold and physical.  So he is 50% good.  But those have around 90 Phy resist.

I assume he chose it because they have 1000HP and he thought that was good.

A triton would also do same damage but they have healing and are less squishy than dragons. And they can heal.

Para Balrons have so many HP that it takes forever to do them with just a pet and no player damage.
Agreed.  Even a pup IMHO would do better than a frost dragon.  At least you would be hitting his 2 lowest resists and a pup can heal also.
#11
How many times have you asked this and how many times have people told you

disco tamer and a cu

why on earth are you using a frost dragon

 No wonder you are always having a mare and complaining that others do so well writing essays in here
just listen to what people tell you
i bet you don’t even have a disco tamer or a cu do you ?


#12
McDougle said:
If he is a stealth tamer i would bet he has no eval and is trying to heal his pet with greater heal

Greater heal and heal aren't based on eval, just magery skill.

#13
McDougle said:
From your many other post i recall you play a stealth tamer?
 😂 
#14
McDougle said:
If he is a stealth tamer i would bet he has no eval and is trying to heal his pet with greater heal

Greater heal and heal aren't based on eval, just magery skill.

learn something all the time...
#15
120 magery gives great heals and bless.
#16
Pawain said:
120 magery gives great heals and bless.

bless duration, however, IS based on eval...
#17
Pawain said:
Tamers kill them on LS.  As I stated in the guide I made. A balron two lowest resists are energy and cold. That fits a Cu perfectly.

Yes a pet takes longer. All you are doing is saying all kill. Hold a Demon slayer book and cast ebolt to speed it up.

Also dexxers are using slayer weapons with the correct damage type weapons.
Your pet does not have slayer teeth.
Yes a pet takes longer. All you are doing is saying all kill. Hold a Demon slayer book and cast ebolt to speed it up.

That is quite difficult to do if the Tamer needs to cast Greater Heal on the pet a go-go....

There is not much room in between to can offensive spells on the Paragon Balron.... other then the occasional one when the pet is at full health...

But the Paragon Balrons hit for a LOT of damage so, keeping the pet healed is the priority, and that leaves little room for also using offensive spells....
#18
McDougle said:
If he is a stealth tamer i would bet he has no eval and is trying to heal his pet with greater heal
No, not a stealth Tamer but still no room for Evaluate Intelligence as I use Spellweaving and Resisting Spells (which I am not sure why I have it when, at 120 resist but down to 85 because of Protection, I am never able to resist Monsters' Poisoning spells....), aside from the Taming Skills....
#19
How many times have you asked this and how many times have people told you

disco tamer and a cu

why on earth are you using a frost dragon

 No wonder you are always having a mare and complaining that others do so well writing essays in here
just listen to what people tell you
i bet you don’t even have a disco tamer or a cu do you ?


I "had" CU-Sidhes from before the Pet Training introduction....

Too bad, though, that now those CU-Sidhes, Dragons and 5 slots pets that a lot of Tamers may have in their Stables have been made useless by the Designers because, when they introduced the Pet Training, they did not do something for Tamers to be able to keep all of those older pets as still viable...

And, I just did not have the time and will to go out and tame tons of new CU-Sidhes or Dragons and scroll and train them up....

I also do not see "why" those already tamed and stabled old CU-Sidhes and Dragons had to have been made "useless" overnight, thus wasting all of the effort that players put into selecting and getting them, back in the days.
#20
popps said:
How many times have you asked this and how many times have people told you

disco tamer and a cu

why on earth are you using a frost dragon

 No wonder you are always having a mare and complaining that others do so well writing essays in here
just listen to what people tell you
i bet you don’t even have a disco tamer or a cu do you ?


I "had" CU-Sidhes from before the Pet Training introduction....

Too bad, though, that now those CU-Sidhes, Dragons and 5 slots pets that a lot of Tamers may have in their Stables have been made useless by the Designers because, when they introduced the Pet Training, they did not do something for Tamers to be able to keep all of those older pets as still viable...

And, I just did not have the time and will to go out and tame tons of new CU-Sidhes or Dragons and scroll and train them up....

I also do not see "why" those already tamed and stabled old CU-Sidhes and Dragons had to have been made "useless" overnight, thus wasting all of the effort that players put into selecting and getting them, back in the days.
Popps just get over yourself will you

EVERYONE else has adapted. Everyone else has crappy cu’s that they don’t use now

you want advice and then debate the s**t out if it 

I will NOT entertain this as I do not need to negotiate with you  I have 9 fully trained tamers on multiple shards that WORK 

so here is what you need to do

1. take a long look at yourself and your attitude here
2. Actually take in what people are saying to you
3. you are not clever enough to convince us that we are wrong
4 get a cu. any colour it does not matter
5 get a level 3 taming mastery
6 train the pet
7 go kill stuff

you have plenty of time. You waste so much of it here with your looooooooong drawn out borefest journals

if you want to get on in the game you have to adapt.  Bin the frost dragon I mean damn, really?..

if you don’t have time then just do us ALL a favour and quit   Everyone else finds the time. You cannot have it all handed to you.  

When this event is over sort your life out and prepare for the next one

and NO a thief is not the way forward in these events

and train a sampire 

and STOP wasting game time thinking up nonsense arguments to trivial problems that only you seem to have 

if you don’t have the required armour or masteries etc BUY them. After all this time your bank must be stuffed with gold 






#21
And yes you will need to accept that old Pre training let’s don’t cut it.  Unless you have nightmares and pre patch pets.  And no I am not going to spoon feed u all that info for you to trivialise and bore me to death with questions 

everyone but YOU have accepted and moved on. The time to whinge about pet training is loooooong past.  It’s here. Get used to it and learn

1 disco tamer.
2 SW tamer mage
 Create and train both of the above

  REAL taming skills not jewels and a cu. you get in trouble you can ride it out of harms way

now do all that and see you in 2 months when it’s all done. And you’re welcome. Enjoy enhanced gameplay 
#22
popps said:
How many times have you asked this and how many times have people told you

disco tamer and a cu

why on earth are you using a frost dragon

 No wonder you are always having a mare and complaining that others do so well writing essays in here
just listen to what people tell you
i bet you don’t even have a disco tamer or a cu do you ?


I "had" CU-Sidhes from before the Pet Training introduction....

Too bad, though, that now those CU-Sidhes, Dragons and 5 slots pets that a lot of Tamers may have in their Stables have been made useless by the Designers because, when they introduced the Pet Training, they did not do something for Tamers to be able to keep all of those older pets as still viable...

And, I just did not have the time and will to go out and tame tons of new CU-Sidhes or Dragons and scroll and train them up....

I also do not see "why" those already tamed and stabled old CU-Sidhes and Dragons had to have been made "useless" overnight, thus wasting all of the effort that players put into selecting and getting them, back in the days.
Popps just get over yourself will you

EVERYONE else has adapted. Everyone else has crappy cu’s that they don’t use now

you want advice and then debate the s**t out if it 

I will NOT entertain this as I do not need to negotiate with you  I have 9 fully trained tamers on multiple shards that WORK 

so here is what you need to do

1. take a long look at yourself and your attitude here
2. Actually take in what people are saying to you
3. you are not clever enough to convince us that we are wrong
4 get a cu. any colour it does not matter
5 get a level 3 taming mastery
6 train the pet
7 go kill stuff

you have plenty of time. You waste so much of it here with your looooooooong drawn out borefest journals

if you want to get on in the game you have to adapt.  Bin the frost dragon I mean damn, really?..

if you don’t have time then just do us ALL a favour and quit   Everyone else finds the time. You cannot have it all handed to you.  

When this event is over sort your life out and prepare for the next one

and NO a thief is not the way forward in these events

and train a sampire 

and STOP wasting game time thinking up nonsense arguments to trivial problems that only you seem to have 

if you don’t have the required armour or masteries etc BUY them. After all this time your bank must be stuffed with gold 






No.

I refuse to tame new CU-Sidhes or Dragons because a change in the game overlooking the existing ones made them obsolete.

It is a matter of principle.

The Developers should have thought about it OR, when the issue came up, they should have provided to players the ability to re-use their existing, stabled CU-Sidhes or Dragons or any other pet which theets' training change made obsolete.

One of the good of the Taming gameplay, is to get somewhat "close" to one's own pet.

Those pets in the Stables, for some tamers, are not mere pixels, they old memories, hunts done together, they have names, they are, in one word, "pets".

And I see it as totally wrong a Design which, when a change is introduced, totally ignores them as if they do not exist, as if players did not spend time hunting with them, getting attached to them and all that,

Each player plays for a reason, there are also Tamers who see their pets as something "more" then mere weapons.
#23
And yes you will need to accept that old Pre training let’s don’t cut it.  Unless you have nightmares and pre patch pets.  And no I am not going to spoon feed u all that info for you to trivialise and bore me to death with questions 

everyone but YOU have accepted and moved on. The time to whinge about pet training is loooooong past.  It’s here. Get used to it and learn

1 disco tamer.
2 SW tamer mage
 Create and train both of the above

  REAL taming skills not jewels and a cu. you get in trouble you can ride it out of harms way

now do all that and see you in 2 months when it’s all done. And you’re welcome. Enjoy enhanced gameplay 
That is what I happen to play, a Spellweaving Tamer Mage.

Yet, no room for Evaluate Intelligence (have Resisting Spells instead) so, I focus on keeping the pet alive, rather then cast offensive spells on the Monsters.
#24
you do NOT need resisting spells the pet is your weapon, you hide behind it and heal it,  you need eval for spell power.  Your pet aggro and tanks, if something targets you you all stop, all follow me and target whats attacking you, and then you invis 
#25
you do NOT need resisting spells the pet is your weapon, you hide behind it and heal it,  you need eval for spell power.  Your pet aggro and tanks, if something targets you you all stop, all follow me and target whats attacking you, and then you invis 
Yes, if I was to deal with single Targets, unfortunately, most of the times I need to deal with a "spawn" situation whereas the rest of the spawn, not to mention paragons who always re-target on the Tamers, target me.

And if I drop dead, I cannot keep my pet healed so, staying alive is rather fundamental to the gameplay, especially with tough Monsters who hit the pet hard and, thus, require me to do intensive healing, or in situations where there is extra spawn in the area about which I need to be very careful about.

I will try swapping Resisting Spells with Evaluate Intelligence and see if I feel it better.

Thanks for the advice.
#26
No.

I refuse to tame new CU-Sidhes or Dragons because a change in the game overlooking the existing ones made them obsolete.

It is a matter of principle.

The Developers should have thought about it OR, when the issue came up, they should have provided to players the ability to re-use their existing, stabled CU-Sidhes or Dragons or any other pet which theets'
 training change made obsolete.


This ! This so much finally explains everything to me the demands for more stable slots. for my pet just can't even ..
#27
popps said:
you do NOT need resisting spells the pet is your weapon, you hide behind it and heal it,  you need eval for spell power.  Your pet aggro and tanks, if something targets you you all stop, all follow me and target whats attacking you, and then you invis 
Yes, if I was to deal with single Targets, unfortunately, most of the times I need to deal with a "spawn" situation whereas the rest of the spawn, not to mention paragons who always re-target on the Tamers, target me.

And if I drop dead, I cannot keep my pet healed so, staying alive is rather fundamental to the gameplay, especially with tough Monsters who hit the pet hard and, thus, require me to do intensive healing, or in situations where there is extra spawn in the area about which I need to be very careful about.

I will try swapping Resisting Spells with Evaluate Intelligence and see if I feel it better.

Thanks for the advice.
it will only re target you if you move.  stand still cast heal on pet and let it kill it, if you are targeted by something else, Stop your pet, cast invis, as the spell I casting quickly get pet to target that mob, then you are all good,  if you have too much coming at u jump on pet and clear out and start again 
#28
My cu sidhe was one  of the first pets I took through the new training. I do not feel the pet is inferior to those tamed after that publish, but it did go to 3 slots when I initiated training. I think they don't do that now, so maybe I just did it at the right time?
A frost dragon is a very nice pet - in the right circumstance. Shadow guard belfry maybe?  I have a stable full of pets that I switch out depending what I plan to fight - but have to admit I've chickened out of training my old 2 slot 315hp/518str nightmare.
#29
popps said:
you do NOT need resisting spells the pet is your weapon, you hide behind it and heal it,  you need eval for spell power.  Your pet aggro and tanks, if something targets you you all stop, all follow me and target whats attacking you, and then you invis 
Yes, if I was to deal with single Targets, unfortunately, most of the times I need to deal with a "spawn" situation whereas the rest of the spawn, not to mention paragons who always re-target on the Tamers, target me.

And if I drop dead, I cannot keep my pet healed so, staying alive is rather fundamental to the gameplay, especially with tough Monsters who hit the pet hard and, thus, require me to do intensive healing, or in situations where there is extra spawn in the area about which I need to be very careful about.

I will try swapping Resisting Spells with Evaluate Intelligence and see if I feel it better.

Thanks for the advice.
it will only re target you if you move.  stand still cast heal on pet and let it kill it, if you are targeted by something else, Stop your pet, cast invis, as the spell I casting quickly get pet to target that mob, then you are all good,  if you have too much coming at u jump on pet and clear out and start again 
Normal monsters yes, Paragons, unfortunately, retarget for no reasons, I found out.

I mean, I ONLY and strictly stick to healing my pet, do not move 1 tile and, yet, the Paragon STILL retargets me.

It really gets annoying and frustrating.

Sometimes I find my self with this casting pattern.... greater heal (pet) . invisibility on self - greater heal (pet) . invisibility on self - greater heal (pet) . invisibility on self - greater heal (pet) . invisibility on self - greater heal (pet) . invisibility on self - greater heal (pet) . invisibility on self - 

over and over and over till I have mana or the Paragon has died....

I do not find it fun, especially, if I stay still and do not cast offensive spells on the Monsters.
#30
My cu sidhe was one  of the first pets I took through the new training. I do not feel the pet is inferior to those tamed after that publish, but it did go to 3 slots when I initiated training. I think they don't do that now, so maybe I just did it at the right time?
A frost dragon is a very nice pet - in the right circumstance. Shadow guard belfry maybe?  I have a stable full of pets that I switch out depending what I plan to fight - but have to admit I've chickened out of training my old 2 slot 315hp/518str nightmare.
Yes, for a limited time, I understand, stabled CU-Sidhes and Dragons reverted to 3 slots but, and it beats me why, this no longer is valid....

Since at the time I was not playing UO, I missed that window, entirely.

I am sure, just like me, that there is plenty Tamers returning to Ultima Online, with such pets in their Stables, who find themselves "stuck" ike I am with pets which have a history for them and, yet, which are totally useless to them now, because the Developers decided, who knows why, that the slots revert had to be time limited, and not a permanent one for old, stabled pets like I, and many other Tamers returning to UO, might have.

Sometimes, I have a hard time understanding why the Developers make certain decisions....
#31
@popps How many slots are your untrained pups taking up.  Get a new Cu and name it the name that holds the memory for you and train it up.  You are using sup-standard weapons and those weapons can easily be xfered to a new tamer if you have to keep them so you can get/tame new more powerful pets.
People have given you advice based on how Taming and Pets work with current UO and if you refuse to upgrade your pets than you need to accept the fact that we can no longer give you advice on how to play UO so you need to stop asking/arguing with people when they advise you on how to do something.  I still have old school warriors and I am smart enough to know that they are not as powerful as the new builds but I still enjoy using them and I would never complain like you do that they can not kill a Paragon Balron, hell they have a hard enough time killing drakes and dragons.
#32
Just to clarify, the publish went live, I took my pet out of the stable, pushed the 'start training' button and my pet was designated as 3 slot. I did not release and re-tame.
#33
The publish was was in 2017 for goodness sake if you haven't figured it out by now you're not going to and should choose a different path...
#34
Just to clarify, the publish went live, I took my pet out of the stable, pushed the 'start training' button and my pet was designated as 3 slot. I did not release and re-tame.
That is what a lot of us did with all of our pets, @popps must of been gone from UO at that time.  Does anybody have a old Cu that they haven't trained and do they sill revert to 3 slot or did they all revert to 4 slot now?
#35
See people have offered new (old) pets and to help in every way multiple times this seems to be a case of my ball and only my ball will do......
#36
@popps you  had well over a year to start training your Cu Sidhes in the stable.

Stop deflecting. 

As for each event. Come to LS and I'll show you almost every template killing stuff in Fire. Even a couple of robots.
#37
Pawain said:
@ popps you  had well over a year to start training your Cu Sidhes in the stable.

Stop deflecting. 

As for each event. Come to LS and I'll show you almost every template killing stuff in Fire. Even a couple of robots.
Just explain to me, why a player returning to Ultima Online now, from being away, say, 5 years, and having CU-Sidhes and Dragons in his/her Stable, should not be permitted to use them because that window was offered only for 1 Year.

I mean, excuse me ?
#38
popps said:
Pawain said:
@ popps you  had well over a year to start training your Cu Sidhes in the stable.

Stop deflecting. 

As for each event. Come to LS and I'll show you almost every template killing stuff in Fire. Even a couple of robots.
Just explain to me, why a player returning to Ultima Online now, from being away, say, 5 years, and having CU-Sidhes and Dragons in his/her Stable, should not be permitted to use them because that window was offered only for 1 Year.

I mean, excuse me ?
So everyone who wasn't here for banes gets one or ssi epps? But let's say you are correct and have been wronged you have stated your case and gotten no justice at what point do you say time to move on (hint that time was years ago) 
#39
popps said:
Pawain said:
@ popps you  had well over a year to start training your Cu Sidhes in the stable.

Stop deflecting. 

As for each event. Come to LS and I'll show you almost every template killing stuff in Fire. Even a couple of robots.
Just explain to me, why a player returning to Ultima Online now, from being away, say, 5 years, and having CU-Sidhes and Dragons in his/her Stable, should not be permitted to use them because that window was offered only for 1 Year.

I mean, excuse me ?
Because players were exploiting pets so the Devs were asked to fix it. Before the taming revamp.  Cu Sidhes and Hiryus used to be 4 slots  Beetles used to be 3 slots so to fix the issues they could not allow these pets to drop any more.  So the ones that had not started training went to 4 slots.

Short answer, the devs fixed an exploit so some old pets suffered.

What does that have to do with the topic this thread started with?  Stop defecting, The orginal question was answered.

Any advice on a Pet capable of killing Paragon Balrons ?

Answer: The pet that does damage to a Balrons lowest resists. A Cu Sidhe.

My main tamer has 20 or more Cu Sidhes.  He is human and has never tamed a Cu Sidhe.
Most of his were given to him because he helped kill paragons so a tamer could try to spawn a Blaze Cu.



#40
Pawain said:
Because players were exploiting pets so the Devs were asked to fix it. Before the taming revamp.  Cu Sidhes and Hiryus used to be 4 slots  Beetles used to be 3 slots so to fix the issues they could not allow these pets to drop any more.  So the ones that had not started training went to 4 slots.

Short answer, the devs fixed an exploit so some old pets suffered.
I wonder, if it would have been possible, somehow, to fix the exploit, but without necessarily causing the pets in the stables which players had, to become useless....

I mean, the issue all remains....

There can be players coming back to Ultima Online after Years away, from before the time that pet training was introduced and that 1 Year window was offered.

And they well could have Tamers having CU-Sidhes and other Pets in their Stables which they might want to get to use again....

Perhaps, a way to make these pets usable again, could be a good thing to have for all these returning players ?
#41
popps said:
Pawain said:
Because players were exploiting pets so the Devs were asked to fix it. Before the taming revamp.  Cu Sidhes and Hiryus used to be 4 slots  Beetles used to be 3 slots so to fix the issues they could not allow these pets to drop any more.  So the ones that had not started training went to 4 slots.

Short answer, the devs fixed an exploit so some old pets suffered.
I wonder, if it would have been possible, somehow, to fix the exploit, but without necessarily causing the pets in the stables which players had, to become useless....

I mean, the issue all remains....

There can be players coming back to Ultima Online after Years away, from before the time that pet training was introduced and that 1 Year window was offered.

And they well could have Tamers having CU-Sidhes and other Pets in their Stables which they might want to get to use again....

Perhaps, a way to make these pets usable again, could be a good thing to have for all these returning players ?
And will they replace my silver katana i mean it was leet once and my armor was good so free upgrade to cuffs right?? You have the same pets available as everyone you stubbornly refuse then have the nerve to ask for change SMH 
#42
McDougle said:
popps said:
Pawain said:
Because players were exploiting pets so the Devs were asked to fix it. Before the taming revamp.  Cu Sidhes and Hiryus used to be 4 slots  Beetles used to be 3 slots so to fix the issues they could not allow these pets to drop any more.  So the ones that had not started training went to 4 slots.

Short answer, the devs fixed an exploit so some old pets suffered.
I wonder, if it would have been possible, somehow, to fix the exploit, but without necessarily causing the pets in the stables which players had, to become useless....

I mean, the issue all remains....

There can be players coming back to Ultima Online after Years away, from before the time that pet training was introduced and that 1 Year window was offered.

And they well could have Tamers having CU-Sidhes and other Pets in their Stables which they might want to get to use again....

Perhaps, a way to make these pets usable again, could be a good thing to have for all these returning players ?
And will they replace my silver katana i mean it was leet once and my armor was good so free upgrade to cuffs right?? You have the same pets available as everyone you stubbornly refuse then have the nerve to ask for change SMH 
Well, the katana is an inanimated object.... a pet needs feeding, caring for it...

I think they are different <span>:wink:</span>
#43
popps said:
Pawain said:
Because players were exploiting pets so the Devs were asked to fix it. Before the taming revamp.  Cu Sidhes and Hiryus used to be 4 slots  Beetles used to be 3 slots so to fix the issues they could not allow these pets to drop any more.  So the ones that had not started training went to 4 slots.

Short answer, the devs fixed an exploit so some old pets suffered.
I wonder, if it would have been possible, somehow, to fix the exploit, but without necessarily causing the pets in the stables which players had, to become useless....

I mean, the issue all remains....

There can be players coming back to Ultima Online after Years away, from before the time that pet training was introduced and that 1 Year window was offered.

And they well could have Tamers having CU-Sidhes and other Pets in their Stables which they might want to get to use again....

Perhaps, a way to make these pets usable again, could be a good thing to have for all these returning players ?
YES @popps there are players that have come back to UO and their CUs are worthless now and guess what they went out and got NEW CUs to train.  They did not complain, they understood that games evolve while they are away and then either adapt or move on.  They DO NOT endlessly WHINE about how unfair it is, I didn't get a Bane should I stomp my feet like a 2 year old and DEMAND UO give me one.  GROW UP you are worse than my grandchildren
#44
@Mariah @popps question has been answered even though he refuses to understand but this thread really needs to be closed.
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@popps,

Reading the triton training guide here:
https://www.uo-cah.com/training/triton-training-guide

The same builds can be used with Cu.

Other than that, make chars on ATL, PAC, and other shards, go in as a ghost (if needed) to fire dungeon, and observe what others are doing.
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popps said:
Pawain said:
@ popps you  had well over a year to start training your Cu Sidhes in the stable.

Stop deflecting. 

As for each event. Come to LS and I'll show you almost every template killing stuff in Fire. Even a couple of robots.
Just explain to me, why a player returning to Ultima Online now, from being away, say, 5 years, and having CU-Sidhes and Dragons in his/her Stable, should not be permitted to use them because that window was offered only for 1 Year.

I mean, excuse me ?
I came back after I quit. I missed the launch of time of legends and pet training.  When I started up again I read up on it all and then trained new pets. 

Stop being a troll and DO IT or just shut up.  You have to evolve with the game. It will NOT evolve or accommodate you 

why can’t you get this into your head?

and train a sampire 
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