Proposed buff to imbuing & minor tweaks to reforging.

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

2) Allow Artifacts with less than 6 properties to be imbued again.

3) Remove the possibilities of these magic properties from reforging.

       % Lower Requirements

       % Durability 

 

Items with 6 or more properties will be unable to be imbued, as is currently.

Small changes that would likely have a pretty good impact.

I thought the magic number on items was 5 mods though (unless you are proposing it gets bumped to 6??)?

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

Drago said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

This would cause serious balance issues.  Don't see it happening.

However what they should tweak is removing any impact on property weight when replacing a skill with another skill in the same skill group.   I.e. -  if you have +15 stealing and want to replace it with +15 necro

Can you provide an example of an item with 5 or fewer properties that would create a serious imbalance if all properties were at max imbuable weights?

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

2) Allow Artifacts with less than 6 properties to be imbued again.

3) Remove the possibilities of these magic properties from reforging.

       % Lower Requirements

       % Durability 

 

Items with 6 or more properties will be unable to be imbued, as is currently.

All good suggestions! Also, not that hard to implement. @Bleak @Kyronix Y'all should seriously consider this. None of the suggestions would make imbuing "overpowering", but would give some much needed "love". If anything, take the above suggerstions, but bump the property cap to 6, instead of the current 5 limit. Again, still nowhere near being over powered. 

Merus said:

Drago said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

This would cause serious balance issues.  Don't see it happening.

However what they should tweak is removing any impact on property weight when replacing a skill with another skill in the same skill group.   I.e. -  if you have +15 stealing and want to replace it with +15 necro

Can you provide an example of an item with 5 or fewer properties that would create a serious imbalance if all properties were at max imbuable weights?

I'm not sure if the idea from the OP includes allowance to imbue up to the overcap (ie EP could be imbued up to 35% on jewels) but that would be a pretty substantial change for jewelry. People could imbue things like below which is almost 200 points over the cap for something that has all usable mods and isn't antique

keven2002 said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

2) Allow Artifacts with less than 6 properties to be imbued again.

3) Remove the possibilities of these magic properties from reforging.

       % Lower Requirements

       % Durability 

 

Items with 6 or more properties will be unable to be imbued, as is currently.

Small changes that would likely have a pretty good impact.

I thought the magic number on items was 5 mods though (unless you are proposing it gets bumped to 6??)?

I think he meant 5 max mods. My suggestion would to raise the max to 6, with no weight limit.

keven2002 said:

Merus said:

Drago said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

This would cause serious balance issues.  Don't see it happening.

However what they should tweak is removing any impact on property weight when replacing a skill with another skill in the same skill group.   I.e. -  if you have +15 stealing and want to replace it with +15 necro

Can you provide an example of an item with 5 or fewer properties that would create a serious imbalance if all properties were at max imbuable weights?

I'm not sure if the idea from the OP includes allowance to imbue up to the overcap (ie EP could be imbued up to 35% on jewels) but that would be a pretty substantial change for jewelry. People could imbue things like below which is almost 200 points over the cap for something that has all usable mods and isn't antique

I didn’t see anything in the OP that suggested raising the individual intensity caps for imbuing, just removing the total weight cap.  Compared with legendary drop weights, I can’t think of any item that would be unbalancing with max 5 properties and imbuing caps.

I do think that allowing imbuing up to max individual weights would be a mistake… make your example 20 SDI, 2 FC, 4 FCR & 50EP (all possible) and it’s pretty unreasonable.

Drago said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

This would cause serious balance issues.  Don't see it happening.

However what they should tweak is removing any impact on property weight when replacing a skill with another skill in the same skill group.   I.e. -  if you have +15 stealing and want to replace it with +15 necro

Balance issues are caused when only a select few have access to something, as this can be used by anybody then there is NO balance issue.

Merus said:

keven2002 said:

Merus said:

Drago said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

This would cause serious balance issues.  Don't see it happening.

However what they should tweak is removing any impact on property weight when replacing a skill with another skill in the same skill group.   I.e. -  if you have +15 stealing and want to replace it with +15 necro

Can you provide an example of an item with 5 or fewer properties that would create a serious imbalance if all properties were at max imbuable weights?

I'm not sure if the idea from the OP includes allowance to imbue up to the overcap (ie EP could be imbued up to 35% on jewels) but that would be a pretty substantial change for jewelry. People could imbue things like below which is almost 200 points over the cap for something that has all usable mods and isn't antique

I didn’t see anything in the OP that suggested raising the individual intensity caps for imbuing, just removing the total weight cap.  Compared with legendary drop weights, I can’t think of any item that would be unbalancing with max 5 properties and imbuing caps.

I do think that allowing imbuing up to max individual weights would be a mistake… make your example 20 SDI, 2 FC, 4 FCR & 50EP (all possible) and it’s pretty unreasonable.

I see nothing wrong with this being able to be created...crafted gear should be  vastly superior to all but god level loot...

no crafted weapons is already op for weapon dont push it further...make high end runics Worth crafting them with chance to high loot...imbuying is fine the way it is

Bilbo said:

Drago said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

This would cause serious balance issues.  Don't see it happening.

However what they should tweak is removing any impact on property weight when replacing a skill with another skill in the same skill group.   I.e. -  if you have +15 stealing and want to replace it with +15 necro

Balance issues are caused when only a select few have access to something, as this can be used by anybody then there is NO balance issue.

I'd disagree... balancing issues arise when a change vastly shifts the way the game is played (especially when everyone can do it). If they changed something like Word of Death started doing like 10% of remaining health with no other requirements; it would make it way overpowered and all of a sudden everywhere you went you'd see like 80% of the toons being WOD players.... everyone could do make a WOD toon but it doesn't mean that the change is balanced. 

In this instance there are so many levels to what this change would impact that on some levels it would actually promote balance for some crafting but at the same time if it's allowing everyone to craft one of the best pieces of equipment in the game whenever they want then what's the point of hunting mobs anymore? I think some sort of change could be made to properties / weight but I don't think it's as simple as a blanket "6 properties / max cap ability / no property weight" fix because I can see that becoming extremely unbalanced and stopping the need to grind for monster loot.

keven2002 said:

Small changes that would likely have a pretty good impact.

I thought the magic number on items was 5 mods though (unless you are proposing it gets bumped to 6??)?

crafting is not fine as long as there is RANDOMNESS involved it never will be no other skill set would accept let me sit at my forge and craft a fine sword of noob slaying wait not durability 125 ... i mean seriously. i love the concept of runics there should be tools for EVERY crafting skill set and they should go up in power IE a dull copper not as good as a Val but the way they work frankly more than sucks .. the regular crafting menu should pop up ahh yes tonight a sword but then after it is crafted the sub menu pops up it should look much like the current imbuing menu .  same with reforging i am ok with it saying you want a 190 uck 10 lmc 12 lrc sleeves  sure 80 charges...imbuing should then bring crafted items up to the leetness of current arties ....

I think they should increase the amount of properties on reforging. 

That always has a chance of the right properties you want and the values. You could reforge hundreds of items now and not get the max values in the 6 properties you want. And it still has low resists.

keven2002 said:

Bilbo said:

Drago said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

This would cause serious balance issues.  Don't see it happening.

However what they should tweak is removing any impact on property weight when replacing a skill with another skill in the same skill group.   I.e. -  if you have +15 stealing and want to replace it with +15 necro

Balance issues are caused when only a select few have access to something, as this can be used by anybody then there is NO balance issue.

I'd disagree... balancing issues arise when a change vastly shifts the way the game is played (especially when everyone can do it). If they changed something like Word of Death started doing like 10% of remaining health with no other requirements; it would make it way overpowered and all of a sudden everywhere you went you'd see like 80% of the toons being WOD players.... everyone could do make a WOD toon but it doesn't mean that the change is balanced. 

In this instance there are so many levels to what this change would impact that on some levels it would actually promote balance for some crafting but at the same time if it's allowing everyone to craft one of the best pieces of equipment in the game whenever they want then what's the point of hunting mobs anymore? I think some sort of change could be made to properties / weight but I don't think it's as simple as a blanket "6 properties / max cap ability / no property weight" fix because I can see that becoming extremely unbalanced and stopping the need to grind for monster loot.

What could an Imbuer make that would be a balancing problem when there are so many GODLY loot items out there.  5 MODs at max imbued properties would still be shit compared to loot.  Please give us your list of Imbued items that would cause a balancing problem, what a little better weapon/armor for beginners.  Please stick to comparing apples to apples, WOD, LOL

The best thing you could make now for Armor vs what is in loot:

The reforged piece has 6 properties which is the max.  I made hundreds of these sleeves and this was the best one. None of the properties are at max value.

The Looted piece has 7 properties plus resists. 2 of its properties are at max value.



The forged metal of artifacts was an attempt to make crafting better.  But when it takes hundreds of attempts to get a piece that is a keeper.  At $10 for ten tries, it is not cost effective.  It would have taken over $100 to craft my sleeves.  The resists would still be significantly lower than the looted item.

TY @Pawain and @CovenantX for proving that even maxed IMBUED 5/5 items would NOT be a balance problem.

Still waiting for @keven2002 to post his IMBUED 5/5 list that would be a balance problem.  Just looking at @Pawain looted gorget there is NO WAY an Imbuer could even come close to something like that.

CovenantX said:

the Ecru Citrine Ring (50% EP) with room for 4 more properties.   would be the strongest piece that anyone would have instant access to. (unless I'm forgetting something)

Like:

Would anyone honestly replace an 8 mod legendary Ring with a 5-mod imbued ring just for 50 EP?     Maybe, but not if skill points are a part of the legendary.

A Djinn's ring could go a little higher, but I'm not sure it would be as useful...

Yes it was a Djinns ring I happened to see on a vendor last night and couldn't recall the name.  I thought, I wish I could add to this.  It has a good start.

Merus said:

A Djinn's ring could go a little higher, but I'm not sure it would be as useful...

Pawain said:

Yes it was a Djinns ring I happened to see on a vendor last night and couldn't recall the name.  I thought, I wish I could add to this.  It has a good start.

Even imbued I’m not sure it outclasses legendary jewelry.  It’s big bonus is 2FC… with town buff for PvP and 18SDI for PvM the extra 1FC just isn’t worth it.  Even for a spellweaver 4/6 is pretty easy these days (+1 ring, bracelet, halo, SDI invasion book).

Nice things still drop. Someone got this last week:


Cant reforge or imbue this!

Merus said:

Drago said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

This would cause serious balance issues.  Don't see it happening.

However what they should tweak is removing any impact on property weight when replacing a skill with another skill in the same skill group.   I.e. -  if you have +15 stealing and want to replace it with +15 necro

Can you provide an example of an item with 5 or fewer properties that would create a serious imbalance if all properties were at max imbuable weights?

What program/web site are you people running to show the weights of items?  Link pls.

Bilbo said:

What program/web site are you people running to show the weights of items?  Link pls.

If it's not in EC plain. Then pincos does it. Shows the caps of each property and total weight.

Oops you meant knuckleheads.  We all should have that site bookmarked.

Bilbo said:

What program/web site are you people running to show the weights of items?  Link pls.

https://www.knuckleheads.dk/tools/imbuing

TY both for the info.  New computer and I lost some bookmarks for some reason.

 

CovenantX said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

2) Allow Artifacts with less than 6 properties to be imbued again.

3) Remove the possibilities of these magic properties from reforging.

       % Lower Requirements

       % Durability 

 

Items with 6 or more properties will be unable to be imbued, as is currently.

@ Bleak  @ Kyronix @ Mesanna   are these things you might consider changing?

 

Sure they will not. 
1- you propose to make equal 1  and 2- handed weapon? Their weight limit is made on purpose. Same for looted/bought and exceptional. 
2 - i also want this but dont think you can push something into thise artifacts with current limits. And I think limits are important and should stay. 
3 - no. They also should be. Like loot you dont need and properties you dont need. This brings randomness in reforging process. Dont like it- just buy reforged stuff on VS with gold you earned elsewere. 

Imbuing is kinda way to make weak but not random equipment. Looted is better,. But you need to spend LOTS of time to find the right piece. 
Reforging can make some properties better than imbuing . Price is - lots of crap in the process. 

Gwen said:

CovenantX said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) 

Sure they will not. 
1- you propose to make equal 1  and 2- handed weapon? Their weight limit is made on purpose. Same for looted/bought and exceptional. 
2 - i also want this but dont think you can push something into thise artifacts with current limits. And I think limits are important and should stay. 
3 - no. They also should be. Like loot you dont need and properties you dont need. This brings randomness in reforging process. Dont like it- just buy reforged stuff on VS with gold you earned elsewere. 

Imbuing is kinda way to make weak but not random equipment. Looted is better,. But you need to spend LOTS of time to find the right piece. 
Reforging can make some properties better than imbuing . Price is - lots of crap in the process. 

Why is RANDOM acceptable?? 
If your mage cast random spells would it be acceptable??
If your pet attacks random targets is it acceptable??
If your weapon struck randomly would it be acceptable???
Just no no no 
Random in crafting is totally unacceptable....

Gwen said:

CovenantX said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

2) Allow Artifacts with less than 6 properties to be imbued again.

3) Remove the possibilities of these magic properties from reforging.

       % Lower Requirements

       % Durability 

 

Items with 6 or more properties will be unable to be imbued, as is currently.

@ Bleak  @ Kyronix @ Mesanna   are these things you might consider changing?

 

Sure they will not. 
1- you propose to make equal 1  and 2- handed weapon? Their weight limit is made on purpose. Same for looted/bought and exceptional. 
2 - i also want this but dont think you can push something into thise artifacts with current limits. And I think limits are important and should stay. 
3 - no. They also should be. Like loot you dont need and properties you dont need. This brings randomness in reforging process. Dont like it- just buy reforged stuff on VS with gold you earned elsewere. 

Imbuing is kinda way to make weak but not random equipment. Looted is better,. But you need to spend LOTS of time to find the right piece. 
Reforging can make some properties better than imbuing . Price is - lots of crap in the process. 

I think they should move everything up one notch to make the game more exciting. It won't make any template overpowered, and if they do they can also move up new bosses difficulty level by another notch as well. 

Make imbuing better and make legendary... "legendary" and not trash. I agree with all OP's suggestions. 

McDougle said:

Why is RANDOM acceptable?? 
If your mage cast random spells would it be acceptable??
If your pet attacks random targets is it acceptable??
If your weapon struck randomly would it be acceptable???
Just no no no 
Random in crafting is totally unacceptable....

Haha. My pets AI use skills randomly. Yes it is acceptable. Check how many tamers are here. 
There is Mystic spel lNeither Bolt. random. There is chaos damage on weapon. There is bladeweave special move. Ilsh has 1/20 possibility to spawn a paragon. Fishing, Treasure hunting - all same. Ore and wood type cnanges randomly.  Dont like it- then dont use it.  Do something else. Lots of activities in the game.  Lizardmen give totally predictable leather, same amount. 

You have initial possibility to:
1- buy weapon from NPC. No random here.
2- Go kill mobs and get a weapon. Can be really powerfull. With or without disadvantages (brittle , antique, overweight)  Also can be powerfull but not the one anybody need. Like some fencing with bad specials. 
3-  Craft. Gives you total not random possibility to get exceptional thing. With no random 35-40 DI. 4 - reforge. Random but  have degree of control. You get weapon you need and with possibility to get very high properties.  Need materials and time for BOD =>runic kits. 
5- imbue. Nothing random. Do what you want but with caps. So looted weapon can be (theoretically) more powerfull and , clean( POFable).  You can make all slayers with specials you need in no time. Or jewels that fit our template. To go kill mobs and loot something better.

This are all possibilities. You can use them or not. Think some not acceptable for you - there is VS at your service.  

Gwen said:

CovenantX said:

CovenantX said:

Just a few ideas to improve imbuing, some of which have been mentioned before.

1) Remove the "Item Weight" limit on items, but keep the current property cap of 5/5 for imbued items.

2) Allow Artifacts with less than 6 properties to be imbued again.

3) Remove the possibilities of these magic properties from reforging.

       % Lower Requirements

       % Durability 

 

Items with 6 or more properties will be unable to be imbued, as is currently.

@ Bleak  @ Kyronix @ Mesanna   are these things you might consider changing?

 

Sure they will not. 
1- you propose to make equal 1  and 2- handed weapon? Their weight limit is made on purpose. Same for looted/bought and exceptional. 

Imbuing is kinda way to make weak but not random equipment. Looted is better,. But you need to spend LOTS of time to find the right piece. 
Reforging can make some properties better than imbuing . Price is - lots of crap in the process. 

Getting rid of lower requirements and durability should be done.  They are still random when you reforge.

You can get both of those when enhancing. So, it it a duplicate property.

I just made a ring that cant get 5 properties:

Dex 8
HCI 15
DCI 15
Parry 15

Its 490 weight.

Pawain said:

Getting rid of lower requirements and durability should be done.  They are still random when you reforge.

You can get both of those when enhancing. So, it it a duplicate property.

I just made a ring that cant get 5 properties:

Dex 8
HCI 15
DCI 15
Parry 15

Its 490 weight.

Good ring. You can put it on and go kill something to loot a better ring. 
Same as Sampire-starting  jewels with
DEX 7 
STR 7
HCI 13
DCI 13
DI 22

Right now the weight restriction on reforged and imbued items is as good as it's going to get.  It's good enough that imbued stuff is a step below the best legendary and major artifacts.  That's the way it should be because we are not victim to waiting for a drop with these items.  We can gather resources and make them happen and that's good. 

If I were to ask for a change it would be this, 

Add the ability to reforge with Tinkering so that we could make clean SSI Jewlery.  Those drops are super rare and take a lot of time that honestly could be better spent on game content.  Adding tools to tinkering would also add more content to crafting which would be good.  I've got about 400-500 tinkering BOD's in case this ever happens already. 

The other change I would ask for is not related to this but to drops.  Why are all legendary bracelt's and rings antiuqe?  That renders them almost useless to most pvm templates.  We should be able to get them in brittle.  My 2 cents there.

Foos said:

Right now the weight restriction on reforged and imbued items is as good as it's going to get.  It's good enough that imbued stuff is a step below the best legendary and major artifacts.  That's the way it should be because we are not victim to waiting for a drop with these items.  We can gather resources and make them happen and that's good. 

If I were to ask for a change it would be this, 

Add the ability to reforge with Tinkering so that we could make clean SSI Jewlery.  Those drops are super rare and take a lot of time that honestly could be better spent on game content.  Adding tools to tinkering would also add more content to crafting which would be good.  I've got about 400-500 tinkering BOD's in case this ever happens already. 

The other change I would ask for is not related to this but to drops.  Why are all legendary bracelt's and rings antiuqe?  That renders them almost useless to most pvm templates.  We should be able to get them in brittle.  My 2 cents there.

1- clean SSI jewelry is not very rare. People just dont farm stuff that drops them and dont loot all they kill during champ spawn. Everybody is aiming for end-game content. Where you get 5-30 legendaries and 1-2 Major Magic or even less  minor Magic.   Which are clean SSI.   If you want to get it- you need to play different. And loot every mob, and check every item. Nobody wants to do that => price for 10 SSI 35 DI is auction one. Note even vendor. 

2- Because the more properties spawn on an item - the hgher chance it will have disadvantage. Like cursed or antique.  So getting clean legendary is possible (i had several in underwater) but very rare. Geting clean legendary with usefull combination is of cource very-very rare . 
And yes, since everybody is looting legendaries during their gameplay , lots of them are very cheap and most of them good only for unraveling. Or for new toon training. There are some PVM activities antique jewels are good enough. Like rising tide.  


I will be happy to have something usefull as tinker BOD reward too. I  stopped gathering them. 

Foos said:

Right now the weight restriction on reforged and imbued items is as good as it's going to get.  It's good enough that imbued stuff is a step below the best legendary and major artifacts.

Just a step below, yea right.

Watch that first STEP, it's a doozy.

Gwen said:

Foos said:

Right now the weight restriction on reforged and imbued items is as good as it's going to get.  It's good enough that imbued stuff is a step below the best legendary and major artifacts.  That's the way it should be because we are not victim to waiting for a drop with these items.  We can gather resources and make them happen and that's good. 

If I were to ask for a change it would be this, 

Add the ability to reforge with Tinkering so that we could make clean SSI Jewlery.  Those drops are super rare and take a lot of time that honestly could be better spent on game content.  Adding tools to tinkering would also add more content to crafting which would be good.  I've got about 400-500 tinkering BOD's in case this ever happens already. 

The other change I would ask for is not related to this but to drops.  Why are all legendary bracelt's and rings antiuqe?  That renders them almost useless to most pvm templates.  We should be able to get them in brittle.  My 2 cents there.

1- clean SSI jewelry is not very rare. People just dont farm stuff that drops them and dont loot all they kill during champ spawn. Everybody is aiming for end-game content. Where you get 5-30 legendaries and 1-2 Major Magic or even less  minor Magic.   Which are clean SSI.   If you want to get it- you need to play different. And loot every mob, and check every item. Nobody wants to do that => price for 10 SSI 35 DI is auction one. Note even vendor. 

2- Because the more properties spawn on an item - the hgher chance it will have disadvantage. Like cursed or antique.  So getting clean legendary is possible (i had several in underwater) but very rare. Geting clean legendary with usefull combination is of cource very-very rare . 
And yes, since everybody is looting legendaries during their gameplay , lots of them are very cheap and most of them good only for unraveling. Or for new toon training. There are some PVM activities antique jewels are good enough. Like rising tide.  


I will be happy to have something usefull as tinker BOD reward too. I  stopped gathering them. 

You got me there, if I'm doing a champion spawn I'm not stopping to loot, I'm trying to get in and get out as quickly as I can before the red's come.

Bilbo said:

Foos said:

Right now the weight restriction on reforged and imbued items is as good as it's going to get.  It's good enough that imbued stuff is a step below the best legendary and major artifacts.

Just a step below, yea right.

Watch that first STEP, it's a doozy.

If you look at Legendary's that can have what 8 things on them at whatever intensity (is it 8 or 7?) or imbued that can have 5 then you can look at it that way.  But those 7 or 8 are random and the 5 you get to pick.  Being able to pick exactly what you want is pretty powerful.  The chance of getting "exactly" what you want from the loot generation system is pretty low.

Foos said:

You got me there, if I'm doing a champion spawn I'm not stopping to loot, I'm trying to get in and get out as quickly as I can before the red's come.

Yomotsu and Tsuki you kill during Yukio quest drop goooood stuff. Most just run quest, without looting
There are no reds in Ilshennar and Tokuno spawns. Nobody is looting. At least I never noticed people stop and loot. 
I dont think lots of people loot those wisp in underwater. 

Gwen said:

Foos said:

You got me there, if I'm doing a champion spawn I'm not stopping to loot, I'm trying to get in and get out as quickly as I can before the red's come.

Yomotsu and Tsuki you kill during Yukio quest drop goooood stuff. Most just run quest, without looting
There are no reds in Ilshennar and Tokuno spawns. Nobody is looting. At least I never noticed people stop and loot. 
I dont think lots of people loot those wisp in underwater. 

Also have to remember you can not always get 5 mods with imbuing jewelry.

Gwen said:

Good ring. You can put it on and go kill something to loot a better ring. 
Same as Sampire-starting  jewels with
DEX 7 
STR 7
HCI 13
DCI 13
DI 22

LOL you are arguing how OP imbuing is and then confirm you can only make starter jewelry.

Also I have a lot of playable toons, I make all jewels for my dexxers because they need skills, I have looted things for years and never found a jewel for a dexxer that I can use and I have seven of them that all have a little different builds so a jewel would fit one of them if I found one.

The only looted jewels I use are on mages.  Can find lots of multi property mage jewels where everything is used.  Even tho you say looted items are supposed to have things not used.

The problem is, the loot is highly weighted to mage items.  Few mobs even have a chance to drop dex items.  Here are examples of things I put on beginner mage suits, all the properties are useful. And I have hundreds of these things, The antiques are junk I just have them to show even where there are more properties, they also fit the theme.

CovenantX said:

5 properties would remain the cap for imbued items, just suggesting the item weight limit be removed.    the properties imbued in an item couldn't exceed the current maximum imbuing intensity.

some others suggested up to 6 imbued mods, but i feel that's pushing it a little too far.

I don't take issue with anything you posted.  I was just tired of Bilbo calling me clueless when it's obvious that he can't build a suit.  But yeah even 5 max mod's would be really over kill I think.  I still think the best thing would be to allow Tinker's to reforge that way you could more easily balance your suit out with the legendary pieces you have.  For example if you need 20 dci or 20 hci you can reforge it, if you need 10 ssi you can reforge that.  You could reforge 150 luck.  Lots of possibilities that we simply do not have now.

Not that this will go anywhere, 
First a suit is 6 pieces.  Head, neck, arms, chest, gloves, legs.
You use Barbed or Valorite to craft the starting pieces when you are only going to imbue.  You pick and choose pieces.  You can have 2 resists at 14 on each piece. But you try for a more even spread so none go over 70 by much. So by making the suit at one time you can get 3 resists at 70 and just need to imbue 2 resists on.
It's not something I would do but you can do it.  We did it before reforging.

Pawain said:

Not that this will go anywhere, 
First a suit is 6 pieces.  Head, neck, arms, chest, gloves, legs.
You use Barbed or Valorite to craft the starting pieces when you are only going to imbue.  You pick and choose pieces.  You can have 2 resists at 14 on each piece. But you try for a more even spread so none go over 70 by much. So by making the suit at one time you can get 3 resists at 70 and just need to imbue 2 resists on.
It's not something I would do but you can do it.  We did it before reforging.

No you got me, it was 1 legendary sleeves and 5 crafted pieces.  I didn't do it the way you are suggesting but I did use the UO store at the end. (Which some people will, won't do up to them).  I have the one over capped legendary sleeves, lots of good stuff.  The other 5 pieces are all regular plate pieces reforged with Animated/of Haste with a shadow hammer I believe.  My process was I would craft 20 or so pieces of each kind on average to get 5-6 that had desirable exceptional bonus.  (They tend to be all physical and you don't want that).  Then I'd take those 5-6 and reforge them 1 at a time until I got one with +4 dex and nothing else to speak off.  Then I'd powder them and add the 8 lmc, and 8 stamina.  After that I added the resists.  I don't know why people say 15 because you can go higher with boura pelts but whhhhhatever.  I'm doing this and counting the resists as I run through this process with each piece to make sure I get to exactly where I want to be.  The last stumbling block is covering that 25 fire resists you lose because of vampiric embrace.  That's where the store came in.  I used the store tool to make sure I wouldn't fail and I enhanced the pieces with Agapite for the additional 7 fire resist per piece.  Done.   

Ya the tool would work with imbuing because you pick resists and you add what you want.  My post was not referring to you.  You are imbuing a lot and you know you can imbue to make a suit.

I try to build around.  Bane legs, Feudal Grip, and prismatic lens or  Mace and shield.
So I just need arms, chest and gorget. I find one of those 3 with high resists from loot. Then just have to reforge until I run out of patience and keep the best item.

Some of my dexxers have all or more looted or reforged pieces.  I like putting suits together.

But you can Imbue a suit that works for you, and the store tool would greatly help with that.
I just wish you could reforge a hundred things and use the tool on the 2 keeper items you get.

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