new earrings and gargoyles....

gargoyles kinda left in cold here.... we already have an SDI earring spot and no way we can lose any resistance by giving up the earring spot for this sweet new item

Invasion Spellbook: 50

Hook's Shield: 10

Scholar's Halo (Head): 15

Pendant of Magi (Neck): 5

Jumu's Sacred Hide (Cloak): 5

Cuff of Archmage (Arm): 20

Compassion's Eye (Ring): 20

Spell Woven Britches (Legs): 10

Earring: 15

Hawkwind's Robe: 5

Protector of Battle Mage (Chest): 5

Bracelet (Loot): 18

Greymists Gloves: 2

Wizard's Curio (Talisman): 5

Wouldn't mind seeing a screenshot of the Garg version of Yukio's Glass Earrings.

Seth said:

Minax's Sandals: 5

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Yoshi said:

Seth said:

Minax's Sandals: 5

?

Sorry that's a typo, definitely not an exploit! 😂

McDougle said:

gargoyles kinda left in cold here.... we already have an SDI earring spot and no way we can lose any resistance by giving up the earring spot for this sweet new item

Which is kinda hyronical, considering how the whole thing starts in the Royal City, right behind the Gargoyle Queen's palace....

Why there is nothing for Gargoyles this one time and, especially, for an Event Quest which involves Gargoyles NPCs all along the Quest line so much ?

@Kyronix ?

popps said:

McDougle said:

gargoyles kinda left in cold here.... we already have an SDI earring spot and no way we can lose any resistance by giving up the earring spot for this sweet new item

Which is kinda hyronical, considering how the whole thing starts in the Royal City, right behind the Gargoyle Queen's palace....

Why there is nothing for Gargoyles this one time and, especially, for an Event Quest which involves Gargoyles NPCs all along the Quest line so much ?

@ Kyronix ?

What is hyronical?  Are you trying to say ironic

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Mariah said:

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"Some of the armour on this list is gargoyle only such as Mantle of the Fallen, @Mariah could you correct this list please?"

Yoshi said:

Mariah said:

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"Some of the armour on this list is gargoyle only such as Mantle of the Fallen, @ Mariah could you correct this list please?"

"the wiki is for new players more so than existing"

Mariah said:

Yoshi said:

Mariah said:

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"Some of the armour on this list is gargoyle only such as Mantle of the Fallen, @ Mariah could you correct this list please?"

Following the links to the artifact pages gives an image for the item, which can then clearly be seen to be a gargoyle item.

Similarly items that are 'elves only' are not noted on artifact pages. Does anyone else feel these additions to all existing artifact pages are necessary?

Pendant of the magi can be worn by gargoyles as is. Nothing shows it on the pages you linked.  So in fact you need to get all those arties and try? Just because you have no time to add this info to the Wiki?  At least add option "Can be used by gargoyles" and "can be altered" to vendor search.   Current "Gargoyles only" does not include lots of equipment. 

PlayerSkillFTW said:

Wouldn't mind seeing a screenshot of the Garg version of Yukio's Glass Earrings.

No garg version. Yukio earrings is all-race ones. You just remove your Dr Spector lenses and put on those earrings. Then you check resists, MR, etc, take them off,  transferring to some human or elf toon. 
Of course Holmes in Ter Mur laughs at gargoyles. Race who has no idea how to wear glasses and earring at the same time is miserable and should have less luck in their adventures. They also have queen who gives very hard quest with awesome reward:  book. Yes, just a book. For killing 50-150 minions of Scelestus. Book!!

BTW, gargoyles can have SDI bonus. you just need to have your hp decreased by 80%. So devs nerfed even this quite useless perk. 

It is time to phase out gargoyles from the game completely. They are a race that never should have been introduced in the first place especially with unique armor models. Need to just force race change every gargoyle and remove gargoyle drops from the game.

I've gone through the lists and made changes. Please let me know if I've missed any. @Gwen I can add to the wiki, just takes me some time, there are rather a lot of artifact pages.

Seth said:

By looking at the max sdi suit for gargoyle, we can see clearer which slots are still lacking. Currently this info is not readily available (or anyone has a link?) in that they are out there but not a summarized and usable (handpicked item) list like the above 185 SDI for humans which we already know what to get. I guess we have to go TC and try out ourselves.

I tried to 'match' the list above, it's not totally possible, but I got fairly close?

@Mariah ; Enchanted Kelp woven leggings have 8% SDI.

Gwen said:

PlayerSkillFTW said:

Wouldn't mind seeing a screenshot of the Garg version of Yukio's Glass Earrings.

No garg version. Yukio earrings is all-race ones. You just remove your Dr Spector lenses and put on those earrings. Then you check resists, MR, etc, take them off,  transferring to some human or elf toon. 
Of course Holmes in Ter Mur laughs at gargoyles. Race who has no idea how to wear glasses and earring at the same time is miserable and should have less luck in their adventures. They also have queen who gives very hard quest with awesome reward:  book. Yes, just a book. For killing 50-150 minions of Scelestus. Book!!

BTW, gargoyles can have SDI bonus. you just need to have your hp decreased by 80%. So devs nerfed even this quite useless perk. 

You just remove your Dr Spector lenses and put on those earrings.

Well, at least to my opinion, that's not the same effect....

For Humans and Elves, the earring slot is pretty much an unused slot, so, using the Yukio's earrings on a Human or Elf would effectively be a "bonus"...

That is, they can have their Dr. Spector's Lenses AND the Yukio's earrings.....

But on a Gargoyle ?

It is Either Or........

As @Seth well pointed out.... "But for Gargoyle, the earring slot is one of the armor, so using this earring will reduce overall resist."

That is, Gargoyles seem to be at a loss here.....

Spell woven britches can be altered (from memory).

Hawkwinds would require a transmogrification potion or a converted tabard.

Merus said:

Spell woven britches can be altered (from memory).

Hawkwinds would require a transmogrification potion or a converted tabard.

Confirmed, spell woven britches can be altered. just tried it on test center.

Petra_Fyde said:

Merus said:

Spell woven britches can be altered (from memory).

Hawkwinds would require a transmogrification potion or a converted tabard.

Confirmed, spell woven britches can be altered. just tried it on test center.

So now Elves and gargoyles have the advantage on Pants... Whine whine whine.

Oy! don't shout at me!  I was only answering questions. 😂

just give me 15sdi 125 luck horn accents please

here is my gargoyle now only at 124 using a scrappers and no hawkwinds so could get 160ish easy . also due to lower resistance on the gargoyle pieces stuck using non SDI legs and neck pieces or not have all 70s resistance and will never get the benny of the SDI earrings everyone else will enjoy 

Petra_Fyde said:

Seth said:

By looking at the max sdi suit for gargoyle, we can see clearer which slots are still lacking. Currently this info is not readily available (or anyone has a link?) in that they are out there but not a summarized and usable (handpicked item) list like the above 185 SDI for humans which we already know what to get. I guess we have to go TC and try out ourselves.

I tried to 'match' the list above, it's not totally possible, but I got fairly close?

  Invasion Spellbook: 50  - Can do, all races

    Hook's Shield: 10 - Can use, all races

    Scholar's Halo (Head): 15  wizards crystal reading glasses (converted) 15

    Pendant of Magi (Neck): 5 - all races

    Jumu's Sacred Hide (Cloak): 5 has gargoyle version, or can be converted

    Cuff of Archmage (Arm): 20 - converted (npc in Royal city)

    Compassion's Eye (Ring): 20 all races

    Spell Woven Britches (Legs)/Kelp leggings: 10/8  (thanks @ Pawain )

    Earring: 15 - stuck on that

    Hawkwind's Robe: 5 - can't remember if gargoyles can wear this?

    Protector of Battle Mage (Chest): 5 - mantle of the fallen 5

    Bracelet (Loot): 18 - all races

    Greymists Gloves: 2 - summoners kilt 5

    Wizard's Curio (Talisman): 5 - all races.

So, can't do anything about the earrings.

Gargoyles have a missing spot on the paperdoll.  So, they would have to redo that.  I would be ok with a horn ornament or nose ring slot.  Could have the SDI item there and some things like humans have that don't do much.

Petra_Fyde said:

Seth said:

By looking at the max sdi suit for gargoyle, we can see clearer which slots are still lacking. Currently this info is not readily available (or anyone has a link?) in that they are out there but not a summarized and usable (handpicked item) list like the above 185 SDI for humans which we already know what to get. I guess we have to go TC and try out ourselves.

I tried to 'match' the list above, it's not totally possible, but I got fairly close?

  Invasion Spellbook: 50  - Can do, all races

    Hook's Shield: 10 - Can use, all races

    Scholar's Halo (Head): 15  wizards crystal reading glasses (converted) 15

    Pendant of Magi (Neck): 5 - all races

    Jumu's Sacred Hide (Cloak): 5 has gargoyle version, or can be converted

    Cuff of Archmage (Arm): 20 - converted (npc in Royal city)

    Compassion's Eye (Ring): 20 all races

    Spell Woven Britches (Legs)/Kelp leggings: 10/8  (thanks @ Pawain )

    Earring: 15 - stuck on that

    Hawkwind's Robe: 5 - can't remember if gargoyles can wear this?

    Protector of Battle Mage (Chest): 5 - mantle of the fallen 5

    Bracelet (Loot): 18 - all races

    Greymists Gloves: 2 - summoners kilt 5

    Wizard's Curio (Talisman): 5 - all races.

So, can't do anything about the earrings.

Nope.  Would be nice if we had 9999 sovereigns on TC.  

A garg can wear a Tabard converted to hawkwinds. A garg could wear a Parrot.  Many of the race requirements went away when you used the Robe potion. The 2 luck robes that are human or elf, they can be worn by either when converted to a robe. Also a human can wear a transmogrified elf robe.

I did not test anything on Gargs for the robe slot.

Petra_Fyde said:

Merus said:

Spell woven britches can be altered (from memory).

Hawkwinds would require a transmogrification potion or a converted tabard.

Confirmed, spell woven britches can be altered. just tried it on test center.

I cannot alter the spell woven britches and enchanted kelp on my shard, using my 120 tailoring, standing near to the soulforge with exceptional sewing kit. It says may not be altered. Maybe I am missing something.

Chest: Mantle of the Fallen 5 (Abyss, Fire Daemon Renowned)

Pawain said:

Nope.  Would be nice if we had 9999 sovereigns on TC.  

A garg can wear a Tabard converted to hawkwinds. A garg could wear a Parrot.  Many of the race requirements went away when you used the Robe potion. The 2 luck robes that are human or elf, they can be worn by either when converted to a robe. Also a human can wear a transmogrified elf robe.

I did not test anything on Gargs for the robe slot.

I think its easier to add this to the TC menu to generate a pouch with all uo store items. Right now I am looking at trying the Anvil of Artifacts... It saved alot of time making the armor for my warriors. Now I am looking at trying out reforging.

Seth  Gargoyles can wear Yukio earrings. Just in the same slot where you put wizard glasses. 
Before gargs had 3 more SDI 

Gloves: Summoners kilt 5 (Abyss, Ancient Lich Renowned/Stygian/Slasher)
Greymists Gloves: 2

Now human/Elf can have 12% more SDI than garg. (15-12)

About luck:
Before human/elf can have way more luck: mempo of fortune and armor of fortune nota avaliable for gargs. Also you cannot enhance neck and earrings (max 150 luck for every slot). Or 200 if using Lucky necklace (no resists, quite bad).   You can have 210 luck throwing weapon  (reforge and enhance) but not every garg is a thrower. 
Now human/elf will have even more luck with this earrings. 
@Kyronix , last time I asked for less hatred to gargs from developers and got opposite. Event starting in TerMur gives nothing usefull to gargoyles.    

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Petra_Fyde said:

Merus said:

Spell woven britches can be altered (from memory).

Hawkwinds would require a transmogrification potion or a converted tabard.

Confirmed, spell woven britches can be altered. just tried it on test center.

I cannot alter the spell woven britches and enchanted kelp on my shard, using my 120 tailoring, standing near to the soulforge with exceptional sewing kit. It says may not be altered. Maybe I am missing something.

Spell woven are alterable. You drop them on a Vruklax (guy in Ter Mur). My Mystic is using them. 
Kelp woven are not  alterable. Same as Valkyrie armor (both are fishing treasures). 
Britches of Warding are also alterable via Vrulkax. Done this today.  @Maria ; , can you , please, add this info to Wiki? 

Note: Some special items, made by crafters that have read the appropriate recipes from Doom but not alterable by a crafter, can be altered by visiting Vrulkax the Exalted Artificer at the Crafting Plaza in the Royal City. (Note: When altered to Gargoyle version the bone armor artifact item ‘cuffs of the arch mage’ becomes stone, repaired via Masonry)

Seth said:

Petra_Fyde said:

Merus said:

Spell woven britches can be altered (from memory).

Hawkwinds would require a transmogrification potion or a converted tabard.

Confirmed, spell woven britches can be altered. just tried it on test center.

I cannot alter the spell woven britches and enchanted kelp on my shard, using my 120 tailoring, standing near to the soulforge with exceptional sewing kit. It says may not be altered. Maybe I am missing something.

https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/items/magic-item-properties/artifact-collection-luck-items/

Seth said:

Petra_Fyde said:

Merus said:

Spell woven britches can be altered (from memory).

Hawkwinds would require a transmogrification potion or a converted tabard.

Confirmed, spell woven britches can be altered. just tried it on test center.

I cannot alter the spell woven britches and enchanted kelp on my shard, using my 120 tailoring, standing near to the soulforge with exceptional sewing kit. It says may not be altered. Maybe I am missing something.

“ @Seth are you using a small soul forge to try and alter? There was an old bug report raised where altering wouldn’t work on these, I would be very surprised if this was still active, there was also a bug report raised where items facing the reverse direction would not alter, again I would be surprised if any of these were still not fixed though”

Yoshi said:

Seth said:

Petra_Fyde said:

Merus said:

Spell woven britches can be altered (from memory).

Hawkwinds would require a transmogrification potion or a converted tabard.

Confirmed, spell woven britches can be altered. just tried it on test center.

I cannot alter the spell woven britches and enchanted kelp on my shard, using my 120 tailoring, standing near to the soulforge with exceptional sewing kit. It says may not be altered. Maybe I am missing something.

“ @ Seth are you using a small soul forge to try and alter? There was an old bug report raised where altering wouldn’t work on these, I would be very surprised if this was still active, there was also a bug report raised where items facing the reverse direction would not alter, again I would be surprised if any of these were still not fixed though”

No, it's a large soulforge. I confirm it's due to an older spell Woven Britches. I made a new one and it works fine using tailoring and alter directly.

“Little off-topic but not sure where else to place, I received a message that my equipment was damaged, when I looked I found my earrings on 0/253, normally now I receive a durability warning at around 7/x dura, I have a suspicion these are bugged with the warning to be given at the old value of 0 instead of 7. Can anyone else confirm? “

“I just remember the VvV morph earrings are antique, I can test with those”