I was wondering when that britannian ship would get scuttled. I can not imagine the amount of wood and cloth needed to repair it. My gargoyle ship takes a couple thousand.McDougle said:in the water in Fel i know we shouldn't need to say this but someone left a britannia ship in the water on Pac and of course she be scuttled now so if you didn't know before players can attack your ship in fel...
Out of curiosity, is it worth more the amount of ammunitions needed to scuttle a Britannian Ship or the resources needed to repair it ?TimSt said:I was wondering when that britannian ship would get scuttled. I can not imagine the amount of wood and cloth needed to repair it. My gargoyle ship takes a couple thousand.McDougle said:in the water in Fel i know we shouldn't need to say this but someone left a britannia ship in the water on Pac and of course she be scuttled now so if you didn't know before players can attack your ship in fel...
Well, maybe the scuttled player might be the laughing one then, if the player who did the scuttling had to spend more worth in ammunitions as what the scuttled Ship player will have to spend to repair it...TimSt said:@ popps Players scuttle other players ships for the fun of it. They might get a perverse sense of joy out of making other people suffer.
not so much, the scuttling player can then go scuttle two npc ships and they have more ammo than when they started, even after scuttling a Britannian Warship.popps said:Well, maybe the scuttled player might be the laughing one then, if the player who did the scuttling had to spend more worth in ammunitions as what the scuttled Ship player will have to spend to repair it...TimSt said:@ popps Players scuttle other players ships for the fun of it. They might get a perverse sense of joy out of making other people suffer.
That is, the last laugh might be on the scuttled player, not really on the player who did the scuttling....
This is of course, assuming an empty Hold or with worthless stuff on the scuttled Ship....
Well, the scuttling of the NPCs ships will also need an ammunitions expenditure which will add up to that which they needed to spend to scuttle the player's Britannian Ship...Victim_Of_Siege said:not so much, the scuttling player can then go scuttle two npc ships and they have more ammo than when they started, even after scuttling a Britannian Warship.popps said:Well, maybe the scuttled player might be the laughing one then, if the player who did the scuttling had to spend more worth in ammunitions as what the scuttled Ship player will have to spend to repair it...TimSt said:@ popps Players scuttle other players ships for the fun of it. They might get a perverse sense of joy out of making other people suffer.
That is, the last laugh might be on the scuttled player, not really on the player who did the scuttling....
This is of course, assuming an empty Hold or with worthless stuff on the scuttled Ship....
no debate to it Popps, i can scuttle a Britannian ship, then take out two NPC ships, and you could never tell i used any ammo. as far as the time, are you serious?? we play this game to have fun and the time put in is always worth it. if someone finds scuttling stray player ships in fel fun, it is hardly a waste of their time and you would be surprised at how many ships get left in fel with full holds . . .popps said:Well, the scuttling of the NPCs ships will also need an ammunitions expenditure which will add up to that which they needed to spend to scuttle the player's Britannian Ship...Victim_Of_Siege said:not so much, the scuttling player can then go scuttle two npc ships and they have more ammo than when they started, even after scuttling a Britannian Warship.popps said:Well, maybe the scuttled player might be the laughing one then, if the player who did the scuttling had to spend more worth in ammunitions as what the scuttled Ship player will have to spend to repair it...TimSt said:@ popps Players scuttle other players ships for the fun of it. They might get a perverse sense of joy out of making other people suffer.
That is, the last laugh might be on the scuttled player, not really on the player who did the scuttling....
This is of course, assuming an empty Hold or with worthless stuff on the scuttled Ship....
Not sure if in the end the ammunitions' tally will be a positive or, rather, a negative one...
Not to mention the time which they had to put into all that scuttling...
And to the scuttled Britannian ship player it would just take a few minutes if not less and a few resources to bring it back to full health...
It really is debatable whether scuttling an empty hold Ship is really worth it, even if for the "fun of it"....
Why stop at 2? Charge them all and fire a broadside! (start charging on each cannon, it will keep going if you move out of range as long as you don't actually leave the ship)TimSt said:@ Larisa, I used a gargoyle ship because you can operate two cannons at the same time if you are soloing.
Well, sometimes, it ain-t possible to dry dock a Ship....keven2002 said:Scuttling a player ship is 100% worth it for the fun of it. It's a right of passage for those that think they can leave they boat wherever they please in Fel...ie don't act like a Trammie in Fel because there are different rules
I left my ship out in Fel overnight before getting near land to dry dock... I thought "I haven't seen a player on these waters in years; I'm good"...came back next morning and she be scuttled. Learned my lesson! I will take the extra 5min to dry dock it next time so I don't need to log my crafter in to fix my ship before sailing again!
No no no do the quest in tram or risk attack we are pirates after all...popps said:Well, sometimes, it ain-t possible to dry dock a Ship....keven2002 said:Scuttling a player ship is 100% worth it for the fun of it. It's a right of passage for those that think they can leave they boat wherever they please in Fel...ie don't act like a Trammie in Fel because there are different rules
I left my ship out in Fel overnight before getting near land to dry dock... I thought "I haven't seen a player on these waters in years; I'm good"...came back next morning and she be scuttled. Learned my lesson! I will take the extra 5min to dry dock it next time so I don't need to log my crafter in to fix my ship before sailing again!
For example, a Fisherman doing Fishmonger quests with pending crates in the Hold is barred from being able to dry dock a Ship....
By the way, I think that this should be changed and just like a Dry Docked ship can retain its cannons and ammunitions in it just fine, it should be permitted to get dry docked also if pending Fishmongers' Quests crates are sitting in the Hold....
@ Kyronix , do you think that this is a change that we could see to Fishing and Fishmonger Quests?
Indeed but, sometimes, real life gets in between and one needs to log off without time to finish off pending Fishmongers' Quests, especially, if one might have several pending as it usually is done to avoid going back and forth too much/often....Petra_Fyde said:@ popps Any fisherman with any sense, if fishing in Fel, will only take and fill as many orders as s/he has time for and then refuse the next one and dock the ship. Reputation is only lost from cancelling orders, not from refusing them.
At least that's how I fish in Fel.
Yet another example of the "me me me" mindset of certain players.popps said:Well, sometimes, it ain-t possible to dry dock a Ship....keven2002 said:Scuttling a player ship is 100% worth it for the fun of it. It's a right of passage for those that think they can leave they boat wherever they please in Fel...ie don't act like a Trammie in Fel because there are different rules
I left my ship out in Fel overnight before getting near land to dry dock... I thought "I haven't seen a player on these waters in years; I'm good"...came back next morning and she be scuttled. Learned my lesson! I will take the extra 5min to dry dock it next time so I don't need to log my crafter in to fix my ship before sailing again!
For example, a Fisherman doing Fishmonger quests with pending crates in the Hold is barred from being able to dry dock a Ship....
By the way, I think that this should be changed and just like a Dry Docked ship can retain its cannons and ammunitions in it just fine, it should be permitted to get dry docked also if pending Fishmongers' Quests crates are sitting in the Hold....
@ Kyronix , do you think that this is a change that we could see to Fishing and Fishmonger Quests?
I do not play in Fel but I know that you do not leave stuff unattended in Fel. This has been a common practice from day one of boating 101 in Fel. And @popps if you didn't know this then again you prove how little you know about UO.keven2002 said:Scuttling a player ship is 100% worth it for the fun of it. It's a right of passage for those that think they can leave they boat wherever they please in Fel...ie don't act like a Trammie in Fel because there are different rules
I left my ship out in Fel overnight before getting near land to dry dock... I thought "I haven't seen a player on these waters in years; I'm good"...came back next morning and she be scuttled. Learned my lesson! I will take the extra 5min to dry dock it next time so I don't need to log my crafter in to fix my ship before sailing again!
Why has no one ever told me about this?Petra_Fyde said:Why stop at 2? Charge them all and fire a broadside! (start charging on each cannon, it will keep going if you move out of range as long as you don't actually leave the ship)TimSt said:@ Larisa, I used a gargoyle ship because you can operate two cannons at the same time if you are soloing.
Then issue the command 'fire port (or starboard) broadside'. Fun Fun.
Don't worry @Larisa Garr Grimbeard is headed back to OriginLarisa said:Why has no one ever told me about this?Petra_Fyde said:Why stop at 2? Charge them all and fire a broadside! (start charging on each cannon, it will keep going if you move out of range as long as you don't actually leave the ship)TimSt said:@ Larisa, I used a gargoyle ship because you can operate two cannons at the same time if you are soloing.
Then issue the command 'fire port (or starboard) broadside'. Fun Fun.
I think I'm going to start sailing more often
Thank you Petra! I added the two commands to my macro list, it certainly speeds up scuttling enemy vessels!Petra_Fyde said:Why stop at 2? Charge them all and fire a broadside! (start charging on each cannon, it will keep going if you move out of range as long as you don't actually leave the ship)TimSt said:@ Larisa, I used a gargoyle ship because you can operate two cannons at the same time if you are soloing.
Then issue the command 'fire port (or starboard) broadside'. Fun Fun.
Seems I wasn't clear enough in this description.Petra_Fyde said:Why stop at 2? Charge them all and fire a broadside! (start charging on each cannon, it will keep going if you move out of range as long as you don't actually leave the ship)TimSt said:@ Larisa, I used a gargoyle ship because you can operate two cannons at the same time if you are soloing.
Then issue the command 'fire port (or starboard) broadside'. Fun Fun.
@McDougle ; If you need an extra hand at xferring stuff to Origin from Pacific let me know. I have a shard shield that is collecting dust.McDougle said:Don't worry @ Larisa Garr Grimbeard is headed back to OriginLarisa said:Why has no one ever told me about this?Petra_Fyde said:Why stop at 2? Charge them all and fire a broadside! (start charging on each cannon, it will keep going if you move out of range as long as you don't actually leave the ship)TimSt said:@ Larisa, I used a gargoyle ship because you can operate two cannons at the same time if you are soloing.
Then issue the command 'fire port (or starboard) broadside'. Fun Fun.
I think I'm going to start sailing more often
Hippo said:"Forward Right" another new command for me. I was using 2 different commands - Forward then Right. Thank you again Petra!
Velocity options for the Ordinal directions as well:Mariah said:Hippo said:"Forward Right" another new command for me. I was using 2 different commands - Forward then Right. Thank you again Petra!
Oops, I hadn't realised those 4 commands were missing from the ships guide. I will remedy that asap. In addition to Forward Right, there is also Forward Left, Backward Right and Backward Left.
Arroth_Thaiel said:UnFurl Sail and Furl Sail are the same as Forward and Stop. You can also say Port and Starboard in place of Left and Right for some of the commands and Come About instead of Turn Around.
I don't remember exactly, but I think simplified sailing commands were introduced with the need for localization (late 90's maybe?). I could be very wrong here and both types of sailing commands may have existed since launch.
Does the tillerman still give a vocal response to "Drop Anchor" and "Raise Anchor" in the CC? I know the commands themselves no longer do anything and that the tillerman doesn't respond to them in any way in the EC, but I think you still get the bark response in the CC.
UOGuide has a longer list:
Boats - UOGuide, the Ultima Online Encyclopedia
Forward One (or Back One, Right One, Left One) – Moves the boat one tile in the direction commandedI can add in the nautical terms for those who want them.