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Well... I guess this is it with this valentine gift

Started by Keld · 2021-02-13 · 61 posts · General Discussions
#0
Yes, i had my gift stolen in Atlantic.

I'm not a feluca player and play only pvm And i would like to say to @kryonix or others devs that i play the game to have fun, to de-stress and i get my gift stolen. 

i know this is the game and accept it but put this event only in feluca wasn't fun for me and maybe for the other players that doesn't play in feluca and had their gift stolen to. 

I am only post this because here is the space where players can comunicate with devs. This is my feedback.
#1
They listened to feedback so they did this. @popps has made multiple give thieves and rogues love threads.  He got what he asked for.
#2

Don't think it's fair to put it on Popps tbh, there are a lot of thieves out there, and a lot of Felucca players out there.

And Popps is usually talking about PvM rogues - which actually I play also, and enjoy.

If Felucca is as deserted as you all say it is, I don't see how you are having any issues doing this.

Don't you think double clicking clicky things for instant risk free gifts is just a bit innane? Is this really how you see UO?

Think about the game, play it.

And maybe the last 15 years of having everything in Trammel wasn't fun for Felucca players either.

#3
Pawain said:
They listened to feedback so they did this. @ popps has made multiple give thieves and rogues love threads.  He got what he asked for.
Seriously ?

THIS is what I said on this specific topic..... https://forum.uo.com/discussion/comment/53046/#Comment_53046

We are talking about GIFTS, and more specifically VALENTINE gifts...

Now, may I ask what the "Valentine" holiday is all about ?

Is it about hatred, ill doing, or anything that would aggravate someone ?

To my knowledge, it is about "love", that is, being nice, well put towards others.

The very LAST thing that I would have expected, for a VALENTINE gift, is that Ultima Online would have put them in Felucca and not make them blessed "off the bat" to prevent them from being stolen...

AND, on top of that, that they would have been made 1 Valentine Gift per account and not per character which it means that, if a player gets his or her only and sole possible 2021 Valentine gift get stolen, they are totally out of luck for good because they cannot try with another character....

Of course, this is just MY opinion on the topic.... and I agree with the OP, I see games as a way to relax, enjoy and stress out from the hurdles, problems and responsibilities of real life.... and NOT to end up in a virtual world where one only gets more stress and more aggravation.... I get plenty of that from real life already, I do not need to pay my hard earned money to get further aggravated and upset in a "game" that should supposedly enjoy and entertain me, in my "free" time....

But that is how " I " see it, others of course may see it differently.

But I do not get surprised when the "game" then might further loose players' base and resources from subscriptions because more players, rather then having a good and relaxing time playing it, end up getting stressed out and frustrated because of its mechanics, and decide that they want to spend their money and time in a better way, other then that "game", that would actually bring them enjoyment, and not frustration and aggravation in that free entertainment time that they have....
#4
Cookie said:

Don't you think double clicking clicky things for instant risk free gifts is just a bit innane? Is this really how you see UO?

No, I do not think it would be innane.

Why ?

Because it is meant to be a GIFT.

A Gift, by definition, is a FREEBIE. Something you get given with no strings attached, at least to my opinion....otherwise, at least to my viewing, it ceases to be a "gift".......

Call it something else, but no longer a gift.

That is at least how I see it.
#5

@popps - it's bred a serious sense of entitlement though...

Romeo and Juliet - every great Love story is about overcoming the odds, not fluffy teddy bears on pink beds. 🙂


#6
Cookie said:

@ popps - it's bred a serious sense of entitlement though...

Romeo and Juliet - every great Love story is about overcoming the odds, not fluffy teddy bears on pink beds. 🙂


To my understanding, a Valentine Gift is something we use to show to someone who.we care about, our good feelings towards them.

This, if we want to talk about "Valentine" gifts...., IMHO....

And I personally find it sad, towards what this Holiday is supposed to mean, at least to my opinion, that what should be a carrier of good feelings becomes instead, in Ultima Online, a tool of aggravation and upsettiness for some players who end up having it stolen from them because of the mechanics chosen to provide this "gift" to players .... to my viewing, it defies what this holiday is supposed to stand for.....
#7
Maybe I'm evil but I really hope someone steals popps Cupid.....
#8
Okay, guys, we can dive into a semantic analysis of the word 'gift' and the meaning of Valentine's Day, but it's a tad much.

These handouts are the barest minimum of content, and if the devs can't do the barest minimum without players getting bent out of shape then we're in for some problems when they actually do something of note.

There hasn't been any meaningful Fel content since like, what... power scrolls became a thing? So a player might lose out on some useless deco that looks out of place to begin with. You were in Fel and weren't prepared. Next time you will be.
#9
If you have multi accounts you can take this part again.  Also this quest is on every shard and they are not shard bound.  I know this as I ran every shard on my EM follower account (I have at least one char per shard that can travel and fight there) and got one every shard except Mugen.  Sadly they do not have the ID of the shard with the name like previous V day rewards.

On Sonoma I ran all five accounts and killed two who attack me. Just hide or invis before you click on it, then send it to the bank or insure it.

Just remember the above and have the word "Guards" ready!  
#10
As I wrote, I got repeatedly mugged. I have even been killed by wandering Orks trying to escape the Thieves. I got the impression to be living in a Imanewbie 'toon.

But I was aware that those were the RoE of this Valentine Gift, so I HAD FUN in it.

The Grinch-stolen 2020 Winter Token, that IMO was a very crude & cruel joke, not this little slapstick carnage! 🙂

Anyway Popps could have a little reason too: I got the impression that in choosing this way to give THIS kind of Gift there was at least just a little "coming back" form the Devs, of the kind of "Shove it up, bunch of CryBabies never satisfied be ANY of our choices!".

If this was it... well, point taken: frankly we ALL at least just a little deserved it... 😂 ;)

BTW: @Devs - OK, now that you got FOR ONCE ("Semel in Anno Licet Insanire") your fun with the whining players BACK TO SATISFY EVERY OUR WHIM, as it is OUR RIGHT, OK! 😂

#11
My gifts were stolen, I'm not mad though. @Pawain wrote out a macro to help insure faster. I thought I could get in and out without it. Incorrect.I didnt see mine hit my pack, and I walked the areas for stealthers. I like seeing people in fel, and I like thieves have something to do. I ended up just buying what I wanted for a few hundred k on atl. I liked this approach even though I lost my pixels.
#12
loop said:
There hasn't been any meaningful Fel content since like, what... power scrolls became a thing? So a player might lose out on some useless deco that looks out of place to begin with. You were in Fel and weren't prepared. Next time you will be.
I have said it many times that I am OK with Deco stuff or Titles to be used as a means to attract players to Felucca, NOT items needed to enhance a players' gameplay like Scrolls or Power are or other items which players need to enhance their gameplay.

Yet, while the Cupids from the 2021 Valentine Gift "might" be considered as "Deco", I think that the words "Valentine" and "Gift" that they come with, make them items with a greater meaning attached to them, as just "mere" Deco items used to make them become a tool to get players go to Felucca to then become gameplay targets for other players....

That is, in my opinion, "if" they were picked to become a tool to bring players to Felucca even though that ruleset facet is not the one they take enjoyment to play into, I personally find this has been a poor choice, considering what the words "Valentine" and "Gift" attached to these Cupids are supposed to mean and stand for.
#13
Someone should try a invis potion. They are cheap at the alchemists in Luna. There are portals in Luna to say fel yew mint.

I have done all the shards that I can transfer to. So I have no way to test the invis potion.

If it does remove your paperdoll and backpack from a thiefs view, it should work, even if you appear when you click the Cupid. 
#14
popps said:
loop said:
There hasn't been any meaningful Fel content since like, what... power scrolls became a thing? So a player might lose out on some useless deco that looks out of place to begin with. You were in Fel and weren't prepared. Next time you will be.
I have said it many times that I am OK with Deco stuff or Titles to be used as a means to attract players to Felucca, NOT items needed to enhance a players' gameplay like Scrolls or Power are or other items which players need to enhance their gameplay.

Yet, while the Cupids from the 2021 Valentine Gift "might" be considered as "Deco", I think that the words "Valentine" and "Gift" that they come with, make them items with a greater meaning attached to them, as just "mere" Deco items used to make them become a tool to get players go to Felucca to then become gameplay targets for other players....

That is, in my opinion, "if" they were picked to become a tool to bring players to Felucca even though that ruleset facet is not the one they take enjoyment to play into, I personally find this has been a poor choice, considering what the words "Valentine" and "Gift" attached to these Cupids are supposed to mean and stand for.

Yeah, I think you're just too deep into it, I'm afraid. I mean, it's a gift because it's an item created around the context of a holiday and because it takes minimal effort to get. It's copy-and-paste fluff. If we called it a "Festivity Handout" or whatever players would be complaining that they didn't get their "gift"!

In a sense, your perspective is understandable, though. The game has gone years and years where regular content was seemingly forbidden from Fel, and now that there's the tiniest thing that takes place in Fel it seems out of place. However, perhaps this is an opportunity for the devs to curtail that perception by having more regular content in Fel, rather than less.
#15
I just love how so many people are complaining about:

-useless deco for a gift
-a gift that looks like our ex-president
-a gift that looks like it's VERY happy to see you ;)

Yet here you are trying to get that same gift and complaining when you lose it...

....I just don't understand....

I personally don't care for the positive karma one, not because it has weird hair and a scary face, but it has that weird stand on it and it's a bit too big for my liking.

I don't care for the negative karma one only because I have dark walls and you can't see it.

BUT I am very happy that they gave us gifts, that they did it in such a way to let people have fun with it and figure out ways to keep it from getting stolen,  even writing a macro? 

I will shard trade with anyone who wants to 🙂

So thanks team, happy Valentines Day!  ❤️


#16
You got what ya asked for! Love for thieves!  Btw, I love this, wtg team! For what it's worth, these will be for sale on vendors soon really cheap. Just buy one if ya lost it in a couple weeks.
#17
popps said:
Pawain said:
They listened to feedback so they did this. @ popps has made multiple give thieves and rogues love threads.  He got what he asked for.
Seriously ?
     Seriously! You quote something you said after you got love for Thieves added?
Here is what you said about thieves being bored because there is not enough content:

Meaning, at least to my viewing, that I would imagine that the average Thief would get there pretty bored, having a hard time to find targets or anything of some value to steal on that Shard...

You made a thread here about giving Thieves love:
https://forum.uo.com/discussion/7840/devs-to-give-thieves-some-love-why-dont-you-make-the-ice-drops-spawn-in-dungeon-chests/p1

There are many posts you made about giving Rogues more content but the search feature here is not that great to find stuff fast.

You asked for more thief love they delivered.  You should know they are not going to make things easy like YOU want, they will design things as they see fit with your ideas.

That's why I hate threads about useless skills being used again.  They will make them used again, they should remove camping and taste ID, item ID, and others instead.

The devs promised to Give thieves love and now they have.
#18
Pawain said:
popps said:
Pawain said:
They listened to feedback so they did this. @ popps has made multiple give thieves and rogues love threads.  He got what he asked for.
Seriously ?
     Seriously! You quote something you said after you got love for Thieves added?
Here is what you said about thieves being bored because there is not enough content:

Meaning, at least to my viewing, that I would imagine that the average Thief would get there pretty bored, having a hard time to find targets or anything of some value to steal on that Shard...

You made a thread here about giving Thieves love:
https://forum.uo.com/discussion/7840/devs-to-give-thieves-some-love-why-dont-you-make-the-ice-drops-spawn-in-dungeon-chests/p1

There are many posts you made about giving Rogues more content but the search feature here is not that great to find stuff fast.

You asked for more thief love they delivered.  You should know they are not going to make things easy like YOU want, they will design things as they see fit with your ideas.

That's why I hate threads about useless skills being used again.  They will make them used again, they should remove camping and taste ID, item ID, and others instead.

The devs promised to Give thieves love and now they have.
One thing is asking love for thieves, an entire OTHER thing is then seeing Holiday GIFTS be allowed to be taken away from players !!

And, by the way, in that one Thread of mine that you mentioned, I specifically indicated, as a possible way to go to give to thieves/Rogues something to do, the ability to get Dynamic ToT Events drops as an alternate way to having to fight to get them....

I never suggested to make it possible for thieves to steal fellow players' Holiday Gifts.... which I am against, because "gifts", to my opinion, are freebies which should be offered with no strings attached.... 
#19
popps said:
One thing is asking love for thieves, an entire OTHER thing is then seeing Holiday GIFTS be allowed to be taken away from players !!
That's why you have to be wise about what you ask for.  They are not going to give you an easy way to get drops.  Thieves steal from players.  They set the limits on the ideas we give them, we don't.
#20
Pawain said:
popps said:
One thing is asking love for thieves, an entire OTHER thing is then seeing Holiday GIFTS be allowed to be taken away from players !!
That's why you have to be wise about what you ask for.  They are not going to give you an easy way to get drops.  Thieves steal from players.  They set the limits on the ideas we give them, we don't.
Thieves do not have to steal from players, necessarily, they can also steal from Monsters, provided that the Design of these mechanics and the stolen rewards from NPCs make it worth it for the thieves....

There can surely be an interesting PvM thief made available to players....

Not to mention, the ability for thieves to steal spawnable artifacts in many places....

I am not saying that there should not be also a Thief gameplay that can steal from players, but that is to be limited for Felucca ruleset only....
#21
popps said:
I am not saying that there should not be also a Thief gameplay that can steal from players, but that is to be limited for Felucca ruleset only....
And we have it right now. There has to be  a reason to go to fel or the thieves have no target.

Just like you requested.
#22
Just go to another shard and get them, they are all the same.
#23
They are incredibly easy to get.  I created three brand new unskilled characters on Great Lakes and they had no problem getting the gifts.  The process was simple:
1. Create the character so it shows up in New Haven
2. If using the EC assign the 'toggle item insurance' action to a function key
3. Drop off the 1000 gold at the bank
4. Go to the moongate and gate to Luna
5. Find public crystal portal
6. say 'fel yew mint'
7. go to heartwood
8. quickly walk around the platform looking for invisible thieves.
9. click on the clicky
10. insure the gift.
#24
6a.  Kill a cat or dog to get neg Karma.
#25
Keep looking for reasons to continue playing this game.  How about a holiday event that rewards players that prey on other players. Yea that should do it.  Well, I guess you know what think you can do with your gift so I won’t waste keystrokes spelling it out.
#26
Pawain said:
popps said:
I am not saying that there should not be also a Thief gameplay that can steal from players, but that is to be limited for Felucca ruleset only....
And we have it right now. There has to be  a reason to go to fel or the thieves have no target.

Just like you requested.
What I am saying is, that it should have been some other Deco stuff.... NOT a Holiday "Gift".....

Gifts are gifts, freebies, they come, as I see it, with no strings attached, period.
#27
@popps - you should know by now there are ALWAYS strings attached  😂

I love they made this content a fel clicky. I have quite a few "extra" statues if anyone wants to replace their lost "gifts". 
#28
I haven't had a Valentine card or gift RL since I was 14.  My husband tells me he loves me every day, I don't need a gift in or out of game.
However, I have collected the gifts on a couple of shards and will happily give what I have to anyone who's gift was stolen. Unfortunately I don't have the 40+ accounts that cynics credit me with, but I can manage 2 on most shards. Send me the coords of your mailbox if you have one and I'll drop the gift in it.
#29
The devs make all the decisions on what to implement or not, not the players.
What someone may or may not have said on a forum or an ingame meeting or whatever is irrelevant.
#30
Heaven forbid they put out content that forces you to (maybe) interact with another player. All this over an item that's going to cost (maybe) 200K in a month. If you got your gift stolen, let me know, I know some folks who are "stackin' 'em deep and sellin' 'em cheap."

Just like the Christmas rewards, these require you to put out a very minimal effort to acquire. I still don't see what all of the fuss is about. Honestly, I think both awards were a step in the right direction. Christmas required you to get 5 drops in Ice, this one requires you to go to fel and click a statue. How much easier do you want it? If you can't do that, perhaps video games aren't your thing.

If this silly pixel gift is the whole reason you play, cancel your sub, take your $15, and buy something with it, I promise you will be much happier with it and you know what you are getting. I like to think that the $15 a month I pay is for the interaction between myself and either the game world or other players. Is it really too much to ask that players interact with something besides a clicky to get a gift?
#31
Tjalle said:
The devs make all the decisions on what to implement or not, not the players.
What someone may or may not have said on a forum or an ingame meeting or whatever is irrelevant.

The Players pay the money to keep the Game online, so, as in every Customer/Seller relation, the Players opinion (whitin reason) IS relevant.

#32
Ivenor said:
Tjalle said:
The devs make all the decisions on what to implement or not, not the players.
What someone may or may not have said on a forum or an ingame meeting or whatever is irrelevant.

The Players pay the money to keep the Game online, so, as in every Customer/Seller relation, the Players opinion (whitin reason) IS relevant.

True.... and my opinion is that this was probably the best gift idea they've had in a while. Glad they put the clicky in Fel and made people actually need to play the game instead of logging on every shard to get their free clicky to sell back on ATL later.
#33
keven2002 said:
Ivenor said:
Tjalle said:
The devs make all the decisions on what to implement or not, not the players.
What someone may or may not have said on a forum or an ingame meeting or whatever is irrelevant.

The Players pay the money to keep the Game online, so, as in every Customer/Seller relation, the Players opinion (whitin reason) IS relevant.

True.... and my opinion is that this was probably the best gift idea they've had in a while. Glad they put the clicky in Fel and made people actually need to play the game instead of logging on every shard to get their free clicky to sell back on ATL later.

I agree: this is, IMO, a nice and funny way to go to have Players interact (not, e.g., making low-level drops SB).

I really had fun to repeatedly make a fool of myself (almost not even the time to click, and POOF!, the T-Doll was gone! :'( 😂 ). A little sick fun maybe, but fun nontheless... 🙂

#34
I haven't had a Valentine card or gift RL since I was 14.  My husband tells me he loves me every day, I don't need a gift in or out of game.
However, I have collected the gifts on a couple of shards and will happily give what I have to anyone who's gift was stolen. Unfortunately I don't have the 40+ accounts that cynics credit me with, but I can manage 2 on most shards. Send me the coords of your mailbox if you have one and I'll drop the gift in it.
You know where mine is! ;)

Surprise me! Isn't that what gifts are supposed to do anyway?

I am shard trading as well.

I hope that future gifts are in places that aren't traveled much, I don't remember the last time I was in  Heartwood, the crafting quests have kept me away for awhile lol. 
#35
I have been here Pre-Tram and getting this gift was painless on the less populated shards, it appears the only shard having a problem is, you guessed it, Atl.  Go to other shards and collect you gifts and when you are able bring them back to Atl.  This is brought to you by one of the most anti-fel players in the game.
#36
Overall it was a great Valentine's Day haul... thanks @Kyronix and team for a extremely fun clicky this time around instead of the usual boring backpack drops!! Keep'em coming!!



Side note... I have more of these guardians than I know what to do with so please DM me if you are interested in buying them in bulk!  😂
#37
Well somehow I lost my black cupid that I locked down on my front steps. I'm super careful about locking stuff down so It's really fishy. I did have a GM come out but they couldn't do anything.

I only have 2 active accounts and I only play 1 shard LS. If anyone wants to trade let me know and I can try to get one with the tricks everyone has talked about.

Btw my mailbox coords on LS, Tok, Makato Jima 44.44 N 29.44 W  o:)
#38
Well somehow I lost my black cupid that I locked down on my front steps. I'm super careful about locking stuff down so It's really fishy. I did have a GM come out but they couldn't do anything.

I only have 2 active accounts and I only play 1 shard LS. If anyone wants to trade let me know and I can try to get one with the tricks everyone has talked about.

Btw my mailbox coords on LS, Tok, Makato Jima 44.44 N 29.44 W  o:)
Ill be going to Sonoma, Great Lakes. Pacific, Origin, Atlantic,Chesapeake, Catskills,Baja, to get mine on those shards.

Go get them on Chessy and any others and Ill bring them to LS.
#39
keven2002 said:
Overall it was a great Valentine's Day haul... thanks @ Kyronix and team for a extremely fun clicky this time around instead of the usual boring backpack drops!! Keep'em coming!!



Side note... I have more of these guardians than I know what to do with so please DM me if you are interested in buying them in bulk!  😂

You can always candidate them for 2024 to, at least, 2124, judging by your haul... ooops, sorry, no politics here, I know, I know... :# 😂 ;)
#40
Thanks to those who were slipping on ATL.

#41
Well somehow I lost my black cupid that I locked down on my front steps. I'm super careful about locking stuff down so It's really fishy. I did have a GM come out but they couldn't do anything.

I only have 2 active accounts and I only play 1 shard LS. If anyone wants to trade let me know and I can try to get one with the tricks everyone has talked about.

Btw my mailbox coords on LS, Tok, Makato Jima 44.44 N 29.44 W  o:)
It may have fallen below your steps
#42
GM said they didn't see it and I did the ctrl shift and it's just gone.
#43
Heaven forbid they put out content that forces you to (maybe) interact with another player. All this over an item that's going to cost (maybe) 200K in a month. If you got your gift stolen, let me know, I know some folks who are "stackin' 'em deep and sellin' 'em cheap."

Just like the Christmas rewards, these require you to put out a very minimal effort to acquire. I still don't see what all of the fuss is about. Honestly, I think both awards were a step in the right direction. Christmas required you to get 5 drops in Ice, this one requires you to go to fel and click a statue. How much easier do you want it? If you can't do that, perhaps video games aren't your thing.

If this silly pixel gift is the whole reason you play, cancel your sub, take your $15, and buy something with it, I promise you will be much happier with it and you know what you are getting. I like to think that the $15 a month I pay is for the interaction between myself and either the game world or other players. Is it really too much to ask that players interact with something besides a clicky to get a gift?
I guess that, perhaps, all is in what one thinks might be in the word "interacting" with fellow human beings...

It looks like that, what some think "interacting" should be with one's own fellow human beings, others might see it quite differently....

Some interactions, one might well wish to do without, I guess....... but of course, different people might see things differently....
#44
Well somehow I lost my black cupid that I locked down on my front steps. I'm super careful about locking stuff down so It's really fishy. I did have a GM come out but they couldn't do anything.

the black one is wall art, it would have been in front of the door or wall. 
or on the tile above it.

if it looked like it was on the steps, then it wasn't inside the house.


(where the arrow is pointing is where i placed this one)
#45
I have to admit my thief became a stool pigeon calling out where thieves were hidden  i live by the if you are in Fel you are free game because you came here code in as everyone who is there is a volunteer. but this  FORCED people to go not cool...yes i know they could have not claimed etc etc but you took away their choice 
#46
Ivenor said:
Tjalle said:
The devs make all the decisions on what to implement or not, not the players.
What someone may or may not have said on a forum or an ingame meeting or whatever is irrelevant.

The Players pay the money to keep the Game online, so, as in every Customer/Seller relation, the Players opinion (whitin reason) IS relevant.

Not within the context of my point.
The final decision is always made by a dev, not a player. So blaming players for the decisions the devs make is silly.
#47
Keld said:
Yes, i had my gift stolen in Atlantic.

I'm not a feluca player and play only pvm And i would like to say to @ kryonix or others devs that i play the game to have fun, to de-stress and i get my gift stolen. 

i know this is the game and accept it but put this event only in feluca wasn't fun for me and maybe for the other players that doesn't play in feluca and had their gift stolen to. 

I am only post this because here is the space where players can comunicate with devs. This is my feedback.
Seriously??

I mean, for how long have you been playing UO? 

You should ask veteran players how UO used to be. 

You have to use your brain a little. I only play on LS. Got my first gift stolen. Ok, yes I was sad but I was the stupid dumb idiot that didn’t thought of a claiming strategy. If you didn’t  hide (skill, magic or potion) claim and insure, well that is your problem. Don’t blame others for your lack of  foresight. 

There’s a template thief that we barely no longer see. They had their shot here. Good for them. 

Now being crying babies and next time you’ll go to Fel like me, you’ll make a plan before gating ;)

And let’s be honest, we all have other toons on other shards so just bring back one from another shard and topic is close. 
#48
Larisa said:
I just love how so many people are complaining about:

-useless deco for a gift
-a gift that looks like our ex-president
-a gift that looks like it's VERY happy to see you ;)

Yet here you are trying to get that same gift and complaining when you lose it...

....I just don't understand....

I personally don't care for the positive karma one, not because it has weird hair and a scary face, but it has that weird stand on it and it's a bit too big for my liking.

I don't care for the negative karma one only because I have dark walls and you can't see it.

BUT I am very happy that they gave us gifts, that they did it in such a way to let people have fun with it and figure out ways to keep it from getting stolen,  even writing a macro? 

I will shard trade with anyone who wants to 🙂

So thanks team, happy Valentines Day!  ❤️


Finally some common sense. I’m happy to read this. Thanks Larisa 🙂
#49
keven2002 said:
Overall it was a great Valentine's Day haul... thanks @ Kyronix and team for a extremely fun clicky this time around instead of the usual boring backpack drops!! Keep'em coming!!



Side note... I have more of these guardians than I know what to do with so please DM me if you are interested in buying them in bulk!  😂
Oh my! Haha gratz! I hope you had fun! You did great here 🙂

THAT is UO!
#50
Tjalle said:
Ivenor said:
Tjalle said:
The devs make all the decisions on what to implement or not, not the players.
What someone may or may not have said on a forum or an ingame meeting or whatever is irrelevant.

The Players pay the money to keep the Game online, so, as in every Customer/Seller relation, the Players opinion (whitin reason) IS relevant.

Not within the context of my point.
The final decision is always made by a dev, not a player. So blaming players for the decisions the devs make is silly.

Ok, in this context I agree with you at 90%... 🙂
#51
What Drakelord said: If you have multi accounts you can take this part again.  Also this quest is on every shard and they are not shard bound.
I gathered 20+ on the low pop shards that I had xfer shields for, using throwaway chars with negative karma, for I think the trumpy dolls are not something I would display in my house. I got stolen from only once, on LS. I bought a horse for each char - uses Crystal transporters - dashed in, clicked & insured then ran out. None of the chars could recall so I just did a VS search and paid the 1K to teleport to a Malas vendor.

#52
I'm hoping we can get some clean-up points for these statues ASAP... The 50 or so I've collected will just collect dust in a chest
#53
Keld said:
Yes, i had my gift stolen in Atlantic.

I'm not a feluca player and play only pvm And i would like to say to @ kryonix or others devs that i play the game to have fun, to de-stress and i get my gift stolen. 

i know this is the game and accept it but put this event only in feluca wasn't fun for me and maybe for the other players that doesn't play in feluca and had their gift stolen to. 

I am only post this because here is the space where players can comunicate with devs. This is my feedback.

I lost one at Atlantic but have another 11 from other shards. I can pass you one for free even if you are on a low pop shard.

This is another advantage of items not shard bound. More supply - lower cost, more happy players.
#54
Seth said:
Keld said:
Yes, i had my gift stolen in Atlantic.

I'm not a feluca player and play only pvm And i would like to say to @ kryonix or others devs that i play the game to have fun, to de-stress and i get my gift stolen. 

i know this is the game and accept it but put this event only in feluca wasn't fun for me and maybe for the other players that doesn't play in feluca and had their gift stolen to. 

I am only post this because here is the space where players can comunicate with devs. This is my feedback.

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This is another advantage of items not shard bound. More supply - lower cost, more happy players.
BEWARE: The unwarranted use of logic is frowned upon... 😂

#55
I am a recent returnee, and played in 1998 to 2003, so I know how felucca was played. So I went to Yew, with my hiding-mining-toon, (it was common to make crafters with hiding, because there were a lot of miner-pkers around ), make sure to have "say guards" macro, and "use skill-hiding" macro on Atlantic.
 
 went there, hide, and w-click, get the gift, insure. whew.
Then, a player came in, so I step down, and that player cursed me, called me names, and run away.  I didn't do anything, no stealing skills or whatsoever, I was more like peer players who also are scared to come to Felucca side.  Is this really a way we want to live in Britannia?

 I remember 1999, nice players helped each other, united against pkers and thieves, kept calling for guards if someone was peeped their back pack around in town just in case, and I was even helped by some thieves too, (he stole back my scrolls that are stolen, I was really new at that time)
They could tell who were new and scared and who are tough enough and take care of themselves, so to speak. We learned that way. After stolen, killed and died about 100 times, you know how to survive, that was felucca Britannia. Many old timer agrees on that.

 If they want that atmosphere back, that is okay for me, but why doing this on "once-a-year" and "one-per-account" gift?  if it is "one-for-each-toon" gift, everyone has 5 chances, if one is stolen, that player will learn and more careful, go there prepared. 

 Not everyone can hop between shards or pay 200k gold for a gift. 
I know, player-thieves want their toon for more chance to play, but this is a bit extreme for Trammel players.  

 If develop team do this kind of event again, do this with one-per-toon gifts, so everyone get used to the pattern, still can get one or two gifts, even stolen once or twice.

 
#56
I'd steal from my mom if she willingly came through the red gate but in this case you FORCED players to come then put them in a chokehold cant recall out of fish barrel...just so not ok....
#57
Usual discrimination against younger players.  Yes players that have been playing for more than 14 years could try up to 7 times to get a Cupid.  Younger players one chance period.  Understand older players pay the bills.  And, that a market had to be created for the thieves’ vendors.  But don’t understand how this kind of thinking encourages younger players to continue playing.
#58
Arnold7 said:
Usual discrimination against younger players.  Yes players that have been playing for more than 14 years could try up to 7 times to get a Cupid.  Younger players one chance period.  Understand older players pay the bills.  And, that a market had to be created for the thieves’ vendors.  But don’t understand how this kind of thinking encourages younger players to continue playing.
All my accounts are over 14 years old and the only account I was able to get a double on was the good and the bad all other 5 chars got squat.  The other accounts all good chars only got 1 per account.
#59
1 per acct per shard
#60
I respect all persons & all opinions (well, almost all... 😂 ) but, frankly, I have the impression that this "Bad Bad Devs gave Thieves permission to stole my Trumpy Bear" is getting a little too whimpering. IMO it was mainly a prank, and a well played one too... 🙂
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