I have been having a blast doing the deceit event in fell on atl. Is there any reason why all of the other shards are being left out? I understand Atl is the most populated, but several other shards are getting really crammed with people on the tram side. Since the items are shard bound, everyone and their uncle are swarming tram deceit. Please consider allowing the other servers to participate in new fel based content as well.

Thank you.

Giggles said:

I have been having a blast doing the deceit event in fell on atl. Is there any reason why all of the other shards are being left out? I understand Atl is the most populated, but several other shards are getting really crammed with people on the tram side. Since the items are shard bound, everyone and their uncle are swarming tram deceit. Please consider allowing the other servers to participate in new fel based content as well.

Thank you.

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CovenantX said:

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Your sacrifice is duly noted.

Giggles said:

I have been having a blast doing the deceit event in fell on atl. Is there any reason why all of the other shards are being left out? I understand Atl is the most populated, but several other shards are getting really crammed with people on the tram side. Since the items are shard bound, everyone and their uncle are swarming tram deceit. Please consider allowing the other servers to participate in new fel based content as well.

Thank you.

I agree with this young lady, superb idea!!

@Kyronix most of these posters are from LS. Please activate fel. its almost 3am and the tram side is crowded still.

Please activate this event on Europa Felucca shard. We have a lot of pvpers who want to take part.

Do we all pay the same sub, or do the people on Atlantic pay more?  

I agree. Seems only fair that all shards get to participate.  

We want this felucca event on Europa shard please devs.

Good thing we’re all used to our input or feedback being ignored. We are properly trained for this situation! 

Please refrain from trollish behavior.

Hey it’s Existenz, we need The Deceit Treasure hunting event in Felucca on Europa. 

TastyTreats said:

Please don't activate it on any other shards these people just want to set up bots and farm it uncontested.

At least if it remains only Atlantic it has a chance to be a draw for PvP participation. the other shards will not even get checked. Don't ruin PvP for everyone because a few want to farm felucca on dead shards.

So only atl pvp matters? Only atl farming matters? You act like other servers don’t have pvp or anything else. Not like farming in other servers affects anything on atl. 

TastyTreats said:

Please don't activate it on any other shards these people just want to set up bots and farm it uncontested.

At least if it remains only Atlantic it has a chance to be a draw for PvP participation. the other shards will not even get checked. Don't ruin PvP for everyone because a few want to farm felucca on dead shards.

Your assumption of my request and intentions is inaccurate. Furthermore, Atl does not provide any sort of draw for pvp. I was on atl almost all day yesterday on a sampire, and I died to spawn about 6 times, and a player once. Most atl PvPers do not wish to go red, nor do they want to ruin their antique jewelry taking damage running around farming pvm content.

Less active shards have a fair amount of pvpers and pvmers too. I am not sure why people have the assumption that atl is the only shard that pvps, and everywhere else is just farmer central. That is very inaccurate.  If you allow players on one shard to participate in fel based shard content, complete with (shard bound) rewards, all shards should have the option to participate. It's honestly only fair.

Exactly if even atl isnt drawing pvp like you claim there is not a chance any other shard will this is just an excuse you are trying to use to farm uncontested in fel on dead servers.  

The trammel side dungeons are not even close to capacity anywhere but atlantic you just want to farm with no competition hopefully the devs realize this and dont cave to greedy players like giggles

How can someone farm uncontested on ''fel'' as a sampire? That sounds about impossible... fel means you can be attacked and sampire usually mean easy target

TastyTreats said:

Please don't activate it on any other shards these people just want to set up bots and farm it uncontested.

At least if it remains only Atlantic it has a chance to be a draw for PvP participation. the other shards will not even get checked. Don't ruin PvP for everyone because a few want to farm felucca on dead shards.

@TastyTreats

Just a reminder that the items are Shard BOUND (Thanks to the Developers !! Will never be able to thank them enough for this !!).

So, even if you are right in what you are saying, farming Felucca spawns in lowly populated Shards will only yield them tons of Shard BOUND items which will only help getting those items more available and usefull on those Shards which, to my opinion, is a good thing.

So, I am not sure why, even if there might be people scripting and farming these items on the Felucca spawns on Low Population Shards, you would see this as bad.

Sure, scripting is bad and should never be done but, being Shard Bound, at most what might happen is that those items will be more available on those Low Population Shards.

Hence, players there, WILL find them and get them and use them.

Is this that bad ?

TastyTreats said:

Exactly if even atl isnt drawing pvp like you claim there is not a chance any other shard will this is just an excuse you are trying to use to farm uncontested in fel on dead servers.  

The trammel side dungeons are not even close to capacity anywhere but atlantic you just want to farm with no competition hopefully the devs realize this and dont cave to greedy players like giggles

Lol it’s not the fact the dungeons aren’t up to maximum area, I see on Ls about 20 sampire cleaning house and getting drops while tamers are Lucky to see 3 an hour maybe? All my guild would go to fel soon with prly 4-8 sampires and not wreck the tamers fun down there. I got called greedy because I killed 3 rooms before a tamer could kill a mob. Hows that fair to me and them? Not all players ha e sampires to do this content. 

Delthor said:

TastyTreats said:

Exactly if even atl isnt drawing pvp like you claim there is not a chance any other shard will this is just an excuse you are trying to use to farm uncontested in fel on dead servers.  

The trammel side dungeons are not even close to capacity anywhere but atlantic you just want to farm with no competition hopefully the devs realize this and dont cave to greedy players like giggles

Lol it’s not the fact the dungeons aren’t up to maximum area, I see on Ls about 20 sampire cleaning house and getting drops while tamers are Lucky to see 3 an hour maybe? All my guild would go to fel soon with prly 4-8 sampires and not wreck the tamers fun down there. I got called greedy because I killed 3 rooms before a tamer could kill a mob. Hows that fair to me and them? Not all players ha e sampires to do this content. 

I see on Ls about 20 sampire cleaning house and getting drops while tamers are Lucky to see 3 an hour maybe?

It has been like this for YEARS now....

I am now convinced that there is code in UO which puts Tamers at a HANDICAP as in regards to their chance at drops as compared to melee Fighters which it should not be.

Maybe it is some old string of code so hidden in the total mess of code which not even the Developers might know about its existance but the evidence gathered by many players over these Years through gameplay does show that, Tamers not only have it harder at drops as compared to melee fighters, but they have it WAY harder....

And this, at least to my opinion, should not be.

It would be nice if @Kyronix and @Bleak could get to the root of this, find whatever lines of evil code is hurting Tamers in their chances at drops versus melee Fighters, and correct this gross inequality.

That is at least how I see it.

sorry posted wrong thread. pls delete this.

Seth said:

Finally received my first Morphius Epaulette, but this time, I strongly feel a lack of "satisfaction" unlike previous events for Katakotl, Khaldun, etc.

I still like this new item as it can potentially replace my Insane Tinker leggings or those 20m jewels, but why make it shard bound?

Let's not waste time talk about trading, inflation, and stop messing up the discussion with power scrolls and EM decor.

Please focus: This is a New, Wearable Artifact, and its the First Time introduced into the game. Why make this shard bound?

I still cannot see the logic to make wearable or functional artifacts shard bound. If there is really such a need, then you might as well stop character transfer or convert all items to shard bound:

Shadowguard, Peerless, Cameo, Cincture, etc.

You will kill the game, because in low pop shard we relied on buying stuffs at Atlantic.

And that is another reason why this event should be open in fel on less populated servers as well. It should be easier for groups to gather and defend and get the items in a fel setting. Once this event closes, whatever items were acquired on legends, or LS, or Europa etc. will be the ONLY items these servers will ever have access to for however long it takes for a similar event and rewards to reopen.

Please make these items CURSED, I have not looted many at all.

Giggles said:

And that is another reason why this event should be open in fel on less populated servers as well. It should be easier for groups to gather and defend and get the items in a fel setting. Once this event closes, whatever items were acquired on legends, or LS, or Europa etc. will be the ONLY items these servers will ever have access to for however long it takes for a similar event and rewards to reopen.

Giggles said:

I have been having a blast doing the deceit event in fell on atl. Is there any reason why all of the other shards are being left out? I understand Atl is the most populated, but several other shards are getting really crammed with people on the tram side. Since the items are shard bound, everyone and their uncle are swarming tram deceit. Please consider allowing the other servers to participate in new fel based content as well.

Thank you.

I think Giggles is right. Can you open Fel on every shard not just Atlantic? Maybe what should have happened with tram/fel is like what happens with tram/fel champ spawn, the stuff collected in Tram is shard bound and the stuff collected in Fel is not. 

There is no reason to open up the event in felucca on any shard other then atlantic.  All that will come of it is dead shards being botted and tanking the value of the items that players legitimately put time and effort into acquiring.  That's why they are shard bound to retain value not to be mass farmed by your legion of bots.

The activity in deceit has already gone down substantially since release and will further decrease over the next couple weeks.

TastyTreats said:

There is no reason to open up the event in felucca on any shard other then atlantic.  All that will come of it is dead shards being botted and tanking the value of the items that players legitimately put time and effort into acquiring.  That's why they are shard bound to retain value not to be mass farmed by your legion of bots.

The activity in deceit has already gone down substantially since release and will further decrease over the next couple weeks.

Totally wrong in your theory but I would be thrilled to have a bot sell me the epaulet for 300k.

Have you gone to other dungeons?  The one on LS has 4 live mobs on a floor. We need to split them up.  And our fel players would love to take down these bots that are in your fantasy world.

TastyTreats said:

There is no reason to open up the event in felucca on any shard other then atlantic.  All that will come of it is dead shards being botted and tanking the value of the items that players legitimately put time and effort into acquiring.  That's why they are shard bound to retain value not to be mass farmed by your legion of bots.

The activity in deceit has already gone down substantially since release and will further decrease over the next couple weeks.

Dude that makes no sense. How does people farming in mother shards depreciate the value of a shard bound item? I can’t go to Sonoma and farm there and sell the items on atl. Opening this event in fel holds no negatives. 

Pawain said:

TastyTreats said:

There is no reason to open up the event in felucca on any shard other then atlantic.  All that will come of it is dead shards being botted and tanking the value of the items that players legitimately put time and effort into acquiring.  That's why they are shard bound to retain value not to be mass farmed by your legion of bots.

The activity in deceit has already gone down substantially since release and will further decrease over the next couple weeks.

Totally wrong in your theory but I would be thrilled to have a bot sell me the epaulet for 300k.

Have you gone to other dungeons?  The one on LS has 4 live mobs on a floor. We need to split them up.  And our fel players would love to take down these bots that are in your fantasy world.

Indeed, there are fel based players all over on multiple servers that would not be allowing bots to go unattended. Bots are a thing for tram and EM events.

 Most atl pvp guilds and players have characters (reds and blues) on ALL servers. I'm sure many of them would love to have a chance at getting some of these items for their characters on the lower populated servers as well. It would not by any means turn into some barren wasteland of bots in deceit. That assumption is rather comical. But it seems @TastyTreats that you play atl, why are you so opposed to everyone else enjoying the event in the ways the Atlantic players and pvpers are able to? Even if you were correct in the laughable theory that botting fel happens anywhere, how would that affect your Atlantic economy at all?

These are all great points to remember when people think that there shouldn't be non-consensual PvP on the new Legacy shard.... just sayin'

^^^  THIS!

keven2002 said:

These are all great points to remember when people think that there shouldn't be non-consensual PvP on the new Legacy shard.... just sayin'

Exactly. I should be able to go where I want and kill monsters! Without harassment by players.

Agree, open it to all fel shards as well, not clear on why it was limited to ATL only.  The risk vs. reward factor (fel luck bonus?) does show more drops in fel on ATL; players would appreciate this, maximizing their grind time. 

Delthor said:

TastyTreats said:

There is no reason to open up the event in felucca on any shard other then atlantic.  All that will come of it is dead shards being botted and tanking the value of the items that players legitimately put time and effort into acquiring.  That's why they are shard bound to retain value not to be mass farmed by your legion of bots.

The activity in deceit has already gone down substantially since release and will further decrease over the next couple weeks.

Dude that makes no sense. How does people farming in mother shards depreciate the value of a shard bound item? I can’t go to Sonoma and farm there and sell the items on atl. Opening this event in fel holds no negatives. 

TastyTreats has no clue what he/her/they/them are talking about.

popps said:

Delthor said:

TastyTreats said:

Exactly if even atl isnt drawing pvp like you claim there is not a chance any other shard will this is just an excuse you are trying to use to farm uncontested in fel on dead servers.  

The trammel side dungeons are not even close to capacity anywhere but atlantic you just want to farm with no competition hopefully the devs realize this and dont cave to greedy players like giggles

Lol it’s not the fact the dungeons aren’t up to maximum area, I see on Ls about 20 sampire cleaning house and getting drops while tamers are Lucky to see 3 an hour maybe? All my guild would go to fel soon with prly 4-8 sampires and not wreck the tamers fun down there. I got called greedy because I killed 3 rooms before a tamer could kill a mob. Hows that fair to me and them? Not all players ha e sampires to do this content. 

I see on Ls about 20 sampire cleaning house and getting drops while tamers are Lucky to see 3 an hour maybe?

It has been like this for YEARS now....

I am now convinced that there is code in UO which puts Tamers at a HANDICAP as in regards to their chance at drops as compared to melee Fighters which it should not be.

Maybe it is some old string of code so hidden in the total mess of code which not even the Developers might know about its existance but the evidence gathered by many players over these Years through gameplay does show that, Tamers not only have it harder at drops as compared to melee fighters, but they have it WAY harder....

And this, at least to my opinion, should not be.

It would be nice if @ Kyronix and @ Bleak could get to the root of this, find whatever lines of evil code is hurting Tamers in their chances at drops versus melee Fighters, and correct this gross inequality.

That is at least how I see it.

Quit crying about taming...sampires have been getting nerfed for years and tamers just had the new pet change...stop ya whining and figure out how to be better

GTO said:

Delthor said:

TastyTreats said:

There is no reason to open up the event in felucca on any shard other then atlantic.  All that will come of it is dead shards being botted and tanking the value of the items that players legitimately put time and effort into acquiring.  That's why they are shard bound to retain value not to be mass farmed by your legion of bots.

The activity in deceit has already gone down substantially since release and will further decrease over the next couple weeks.

Dude that makes no sense. How does people farming in mother shards depreciate the value of a shard bound item? I can’t go to Sonoma and farm there and sell the items on atl. Opening this event in fel holds no negatives. 

TastyTreats has no clue what he/her/they/them are talking about.

 Agreed
@TastyTreats better stop spitting this doo doo before you get fed to a bane dragon bro.

Kickstand said:

popps said:

Delthor said:

TastyTreats said:

Exactly if even atl isnt drawing pvp like you claim there is not a chance any other shard will this is just an excuse you are trying to use to farm uncontested in fel on dead servers.  

The trammel side dungeons are not even close to capacity anywhere but atlantic you just want to farm with no competition hopefully the devs realize this and dont cave to greedy players like giggles

Lol it’s not the fact the dungeons aren’t up to maximum area, I see on Ls about 20 sampire cleaning house and getting drops while tamers are Lucky to see 3 an hour maybe? All my guild would go to fel soon with prly 4-8 sampires and not wreck the tamers fun down there. I got called greedy because I killed 3 rooms before a tamer could kill a mob. Hows that fair to me and them? Not all players ha e sampires to do this content. 

I see on Ls about 20 sampire cleaning house and getting drops while tamers are Lucky to see 3 an hour maybe?

It has been like this for YEARS now....

I am now convinced that there is code in UO which puts Tamers at a HANDICAP as in regards to their chance at drops as compared to melee Fighters which it should not be.

Maybe it is some old string of code so hidden in the total mess of code which not even the Developers might know about its existance but the evidence gathered by many players over these Years through gameplay does show that, Tamers not only have it harder at drops as compared to melee fighters, but they have it WAY harder....

And this, at least to my opinion, should not be.

It would be nice if @ Kyronix and @ Bleak could get to the root of this, find whatever lines of evil code is hurting Tamers in their chances at drops versus melee Fighters, and correct this gross inequality.

That is at least how I see it.

Quit crying about taming...sampires have been getting nerfed for years and tamers just had the new pet change...stop ya whining and figure out how to be better

Crying ? What crying ?

It is only saying what is before players' eyes....

Get a Tamer down Deceit for 5 hours and count the drops.

Then take a dexer to that same place for that same time and count the drops.

And then see which template got the most drops.

As I said, players have been noticing and lamenting this for YEARS. This has been going on for too long to be just the RNG, my suspect is that there might be some lines of Code somewhere that puts Tamers at a gross handicap as compared to dexers when it comes to chances to get a drop.

@Kyronix The rewards are shard bound. Why not open on all shards? Paragons keep it from being afkable. It's not like people can just farm and xfer to ATL for gold, it stays on that shard's market

MmMmJake said:

@ Kyronix The rewards are shard bound. Why not open on all shards? Paragons keep it from being afkable. It's not like people can just farm and xfer to ATL for gold, it stays on that shard's market

Make the drops cursed in fel at least, I killed about 30 sampires and looted only about 5 pieces. 

Well, it is the weekend. Hopefully, we can get some official feedback regarding this tomorrow since there haven't been any valid and/or factual reasons or arguments against it. 

Let us have some cake too, with pumpkin spice lattes!

MmMmJake said:

@ Kyronix The rewards are shard bound. Why not open on all shards? Paragons keep it from being afkable. It's not like people can just farm and xfer to ATL for gold, it stays on that shard's market

TastyTreats said:

All you are suggesting is players that don't normally play my shard or others will log on and bot deceit.

I main Lake Superior and I can assure you that we do not have an active enough Felucca population to support the addition of felucca deceit all that will happen is someone bots. And that is the second most populated shard the botting on other shards will be worse and I see thats all you guys want to do.

You obviously don't even go to Fel or if you do, its when YOU are botting.  Who are you on LS btw? I am sure this will explain a lot.

I agree with opening the event on all shards in fel.  I play on alot of shards and I think it would certainly spice things up on all shards.  Thanks for your consideration devs.

TastyTreats said:

All you are suggesting is players that don't normally play my shard or others will log on and bot deceit.

I main Lake Superior and I can assure you that we do not have an active enough Felucca population to support the addition of felucca deceit all that will happen is someone bots. And that is the second most populated shard the botting on other shards will be worse and I see thats all you guys want to do.

Well, now I know for a fact you never set one foot in fel, and are just making wild hypothetical assumptions. The people I play with often fight against the pvpers on your shard. We have had some really good and large battles. You underestimate the skill level and size of your shard pvpers if you think they are gonna let someone bot it up....

Blackthorns did used to get endlessly scripted in fel on non Atlantic shards. Making the drops cursed MAY help with that (maybe not)

%1000 agree, OPEN FEL ON ALL SHARDS, ASAP

@Kyronix

TastyTreats said:

I regularly pvp the fact is people rarely field more then 4 people. That is not enough players to support Felucca content. And that is 4 people on the second most populated shard in the game.

Other shards don't even have active pvp populations it is all cross sharders.

Like I said show me why it would work other then for your scripting benefits.

Can you please just tell us who your "PvPer" is.  I am curious. 

Mervyn said:

Blackthorns did used to get endlessly scripted in fel on non Atlantic shards. Making the drops cursed MAY help with that (maybe not)

Blackthorns got scripted on low population shards in trammel putting this content in felucca on any shard other then atlantic maybe europa is just asking for it to be farmed all day.

TastyTreats said:

I regularly pvp the fact is people rarely field more then 4 people. That is not enough players to support Felucca content. And that is 4 people on the second most populated shard in the game.

Other shards don't even have active pvp populations it is all cross sharders.

Like I said show me why it would work other then for your scripting benefits.

LS has a lot more than 4 pvpers, and several more that check-in looking for fights. You don't even need 4 players to kill some script bots.

Here's a concept, instead of changing elements of the game and forbidding people from enjoying content "because someone might script it" why not page on any botters you see? I am actually impressed with the recent response time and the handling of script farmers. Bots are always more likely to happen in tram. What do you do to counter them there? You page... "Someone might script this" is an illogical and unfair reason to deny many people content, fun, and pvp.

But no, I don't bot anything, and I do not cheat. Don't believe me? Please page on me and again stop trying to deny everyone else from having fun. 

Get a Tamer down Deceit for 5 hours and count the drops.

Then take a dexer to that same place for that same time and count the drops.

And then see which template got the most drops.

As I said, players have been noticing and lamenting this for YEARS. This has been going on for too long to be just the RNG, my suspect is that there might be some lines of Code somewhere that puts Tamers at a gross handicap as compared to dexers when it comes to chances to get a drop.

The problem with your arguments is you have not spent 5 hours in the dungeon with both.

I have. But because our dungeon is so crowded right now, there are few mobs that are alive. So you run around and find single mobs to kill. So the advantage goes to a mounted player that can get to those mobs faster.

If the dungeon had a crowd I would be able to kill in mass with thunderstorm and mass lightning. I can kill most mobs with 1 shot there . I have undead and element slayer books .

Many templates can use speed if they want to. I play leisurely and get what I get and have fun.

Giggles said:

TastyTreats said:

I regularly pvp the fact is people rarely field more then 4 people. That is not enough players to support Felucca content. And that is 4 people on the second most populated shard in the game.

Other shards don't even have active pvp populations it is all cross sharders.

Like I said show me why it would work other then for your scripting benefits.

LS has a lot more than 4 pvpers, and several more that check-in looking for fights. You don't even need 4 players to kill some script bots.

Here's a concept, instead of changing elements of the game and forbidding people from enjoying content "because someone might script it" why not page on any botters you see? I am actually impressed with the recent response time and the handling of script farmers. Bots are always more likely to happen in tram. What do you do to counter them there? You page... "Someone might script this" is an illogical and unfair reason to deny many people content, fun, and pvp.

But no, I don't bot anything, and I do not cheat. Don't believe me? Please page on me and again stop trying to deny everyone else from having fun. 

Not denying fun. Denying scripting.

So people can't script in tram?

I'd like to see unattended players take on 2 poison eles and a lich Lord.

I don't think you have spent any time in the dungeon.

And show us a pic of scriptors on Atlantic pls. Or move on.

TastyTreats said:

You are the one trying to change the elements of the game. The fact remains that not enough players populate felucca on any shard outside atlantic to justify changing this.

TastyTreats said:

Not denying fun. Denying scripting.

You are the one trying to change the elements of the game. The fact remains that not enough players populate felucca on any shard outside atlantic to justify changing this.

The problem with your argument it is not based on facts at all and several people have corrected your assumptions. I am not changing any game elements, I am asking for something already available on one server to be available to the others. We need more reasons to play and enjoy the less populated servers, and not less. 

Scripting happens daily all day every day in TRAM. People are much less likely to script farm in fel for the very reason that it does get checked, often. 

I am starting to believe based on your arguments and reasons that you are simply someone trying to control the LS market with your tram farming habits, and you don't want another facet available for people to farm, pvp, and have fun in. Classic projection. If you are one of the pvpers that you claim to be, you would be excited over the idea of more people, yes even bots, in fel so you could go kill them. 

TastyTreats said:

Giggles said:

TastyTreats said:

I regularly pvp the fact is people rarely field more then 4 people. That is not enough players to support Felucca content. And that is 4 people on the second most populated shard in the game.

Other shards don't even have active pvp populations it is all cross sharders.

Like I said show me why it would work other then for your scripting benefits.

LS has a lot more than 4 pvpers, and several more that check-in looking for fights. You don't even need 4 players to kill some script bots.

Here's a concept, instead of changing elements of the game and forbidding people from enjoying content "because someone might script it" why not page on any botters you see? I am actually impressed with the recent response time and the handling of script farmers. Bots are always more likely to happen in tram. What do you do to counter them there? You page... "Someone might script this" is an illogical and unfair reason to deny many people content, fun, and pvp.

But no, I don't bot anything, and I do not cheat. Don't believe me? Please page on me and again stop trying to deny everyone else from having fun. 

Not denying fun. Denying scripting.

You are the one trying to change the elements of the game. The fact remains that not enough players populate felucca on any shard outside atlantic to justify changing this.

You are denying fun, to other players of the server. opening up fel for everything would make it a lot more fun for the people that main in fel and tram. I've counted over 20 sampires today running around in tram deceit alone on LS, 6 of them were my guild mates. open up fel and I can guarantee you, no one is going to bot, or script on the server. theres no point to Bot or script on dead shards if the items are shard bound, that's what UO is doing to stop scripting. If anyone is going to script a server, it'll be ATL because of the high prices and demand of the items, not dead shards! #MakeFELGreatAgain

Delthor said:

TastyTreats said:

Giggles said:

TastyTreats said:

I regularly pvp the fact is people rarely field more then 4 people. That is not enough players to support Felucca content. And that is 4 people on the second most populated shard in the game.

Other shards don't even have active pvp populations it is all cross sharders.

Like I said show me why it would work other then for your scripting benefits.

LS has a lot more than 4 pvpers, and several more that check-in looking for fights. You don't even need 4 players to kill some script bots.

Here's a concept, instead of changing elements of the game and forbidding people from enjoying content "because someone might script it" why not page on any botters you see? I am actually impressed with the recent response time and the handling of script farmers. Bots are always more likely to happen in tram. What do you do to counter them there? You page... "Someone might script this" is an illogical and unfair reason to deny many people content, fun, and pvp.

But no, I don't bot anything, and I do not cheat. Don't believe me? Please page on me and again stop trying to deny everyone else from having fun. 

Not denying fun. Denying scripting.

You are the one trying to change the elements of the game. The fact remains that not enough players populate felucca on any shard outside atlantic to justify changing this.

You are denying fun, to other players of the server. opening up fel for everything would make it a lot more fun for the people that main in fel and tram. I've counted over 20 sampires today running around in tram deceit alone on LS, 6 of them were my guild mates. open up fel and I can guarantee you, no one is going to bot, or script on the server. theres no point to Bot or script on dead shards if the items are shard bound, that's what UO is doing to stop scripting. If anyone is going to script a server, it'll be ATL because of the high prices and demand of the items, not dead shards! #MakeFELGreatAgain

Agreed, we have decided to disband 0MG and start TNWA - The Neighborhood Watch Alert - We will do our best to report any suspicious activity and defeat any pesky dirty botters in fel.

#MakeFelGreatAgain

LaMbToY said:

Agreed, we have decided to disband 0MG and start TNWA - The Neighborhood Watch Alert - We will do our best to report any suspicious activity and defeat any pesky dirty botters in fel.

#MakeFelGreatAgain

 😂  😂 😂 😂

I think Atlantic players should stay out of this discussion. It is none of your business to decide what other shard need. Just imho.

Shard bound + 30 days only. What more are you worried of? Now its less than 21 days?

Correction, it should be Atlantic, lol

Seth said:

I think non-Atlantic players should stay out of this discussion. It is none of your business to decide what other shard need. Just imho.

Shard bound + 30 days only. What more are you worried of?

MAKE PACIFIC GREAT AGAIN! ENABLE FEL DECEIT!

LaMbToY said:

Seth said:

I think non-Atlantic players should stay out of this discussion. It is none of your business to decide what other shard need. Just imho.

Shard bound + 30 days only. What more are you worried of?

Most of us in this thread play ATL as well.  Not everyone is poor and only has chars on 1 shard, like TastyTreats

EDIT: Sorry I forgot, #MakeFelGreatAgain  #EspeciallyLakeSuperior  #NoBottingOnMyWatch #TNWA

Sorry, I wrote wrongly, I mean "Atlantic players" or players who play primarily on Atlantic.  😂

On Thursday Kyronix posted:

We will monitor over the next few days and adjust accordingly