UO on Steam

For those who were unware, or lost the links:

Ultima Online's page on Steam
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249850626

Broadsword Games' page on Steam
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198128878674

Who knows if they will keep the same pages, or switch them around, or if UO is even going to Steam...
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But, if UO does go to Steam, let's speculate:
1. Steam launch will probably put you through to the UO patchers, similar to Frontier or any of the other companies on Steam.
2. Will we be able to link our EA Accounts to Steam? (Can you currently link your EA Account to Steam?)
3. Will there be trading cards?
4. Will there be achievements?
5. How will the market place be set up?
Base Game = Free
High Seas = DLC
Time of Legends = DLC
7th Character = DLC
20% Storage = DLC
etc.....

Will the DLC be changed to specific price tiers? I.E. All expansions at $24, all extras at $16?  Will they continue to use the Origin prices on Steam?

Will they break Stygian Abyss back out as a paid DLC? (I would!) Will they break playable races out as paid DLC? Will they add in new playable races as DLC? (Dwarves!)

Hmm, lots of options.....

If UO goes with Steam, I am out.

I have never made a Steam Account and never will.

Sadly, that day will be the day I will stop playing UO for good.

I wouldn't mind uo on steam if they still allowed us to connect through the way we do now.  Otherwise, I too, will need to pass. I hate these middle men services. 

I think one of the big misconceptions is that if UO goes on Steam, that Steam will be the only way to launch the game. That would probably not be the case. Unless Broadsword did something really strange....

Frontier, Kalypso, Stardock (and numerous other developers), all have games on Steam, but you don't have to play those games through Steam. You can buy games from the Frontier Store, or the Kalypso Store, or the Stardock store, and never use Steam. I would suspect that if UO goes to Steam, you will still be able to buy and access UO in all the ways you always have been, with no effect on your game.

Think of Steam as an optional distribution channel, not a replacement for the way the game currently is. 

I purchased Elite Dangerous through Frontier and never played through Steam. A year or so later Frontier allowed you to link your Frontier Account to your Steam Account, which I did, and then my copy of Elite showed up as a purchased game in both the Frontier system and Steam. I have friends who purchased Elite through Frontier and have never played through Steam, and yet Elite is on Steam. I would suspect UO to follow a similar model.

For most of the online games I've played through Steam, you just click the play button on Steam and it loads up the games patcher. I doubt the UO patcher will change much. If UO does go to Steam, clicking the Steam "Play UO" button will probably just load up the patcher for whatever client your using.

I do hope they work on the EC a bit before taking UO to Steam. Right now I would rate the EC as Early Access, Steam language for "not yet ready to be released". I can just see the comments now: the mobiles bars don't work worth a damn...the backpack disappears when I scroll...windows don't stay where I put them!...this game should be an Early Access title...why isn't this game listed as Early Access, it's to buggy for release....etc., etc., etc. 

People aren't saying it, but they're already concerned that their 3rd party apps won't work through Steam. The EC should work perfectly though 🙂

I'm such a boring player I always forget about third party apps!

If people are worried 3rd party apps won't work through Steam,
1. UO probably isn't switching to a Steam exclusive, so people can just play as they are now, ignore Steam, and keep using their "apps". 
2. Steam has many games where players use third party apps. So much so that developers still go on ban waves to influence behavior.
3. If somehow third party app use is clamped down on by UO (with or without Steam), the EC moding community will get busier!

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I see from Margrette's post on Stratics that the DAOC team is talking Steam in 2020. So yeah, looks like UO is headed to Steam. Cool beans.

If steam and Uo clients will run simultaneous this gives me a thought, what if the Bold part of their update is banning all 3rd party aps? They would almost have to so that steam users are not left at a disadvantage to those who go directly through origin.

monkgamer said:

If steam and Uo clients will run simultaneous this gives me a thought, what if the Bold part of their update is banning all 3rd party aps? They would almost have to so that steam users are not left at a disadvantage to those who go directly through origin.

Well that would be more interesting, it will probably go the other way and Steam users will just load third party aps as well. I know, I'm the beacon of positivity. 

@Kyronix ;

Potential Steam Achivements:

Other White Meat = Kill 100 Cats
Kill 10 Rats = Kill The Piper 10 Times
DragonSlayer = Kill 10,000 Dragons
Through the Heart = Kill a Vampire while wielding a Pitchfork
You Little BASTA…… = Kill 1000 Imps
Welcome to Sosaria = Die for the first time
Eh, it's UO = Die for the 500th time
It's not like other games = Suffer your 1000th death
De Ja Vu = Be Resurrected for the first time

Garth_Grey said:

People aren't saying it, but they're already concerned that their 3rd party apps won't work through Steam. The EC should work perfectly though 🙂

THIS!!! 😂

Garth_Grey said:

People aren't saying it, but they're already concerned that their 3rd party apps won't work through Steam. The EC should work perfectly though 🙂

That is not my concern.

I never made a Steam Account nor played any game that needs Steam to run because I like to own the software that I spend my money on.

For example, I also refuse to do the 365 days, Yearly subscriptions because I just do not like that idea.

The only exception to this, is Antivirus software because I do not have an alternative. I have to pay for the Yearly subs in order to get the updates which are necessary to keep the Antivirus current.

But for anything else, I stay out of it because it is a marketing channel that I do not want to support with my money.

I am of the idea that the software I spend my money on, I own it, and I do not want my money to go to support other ways of marketing software.

There have been games that I would have liked to play and, yet, I have renounced to playing them because they could solely be played through Steam.

And, as much as I like playing UO, if Steam will become the only way to play Ultima Online, I will stick to my principles and thinking, and will give up playing UO for good, rather then make a Steam Account in order to play it.

popps said:

Garth_Grey said:

People aren't saying it, but they're already concerned that their 3rd party apps won't work through Steam. The EC should work perfectly though 🙂

That is not my concern.

I never made a Steam Account nor played any game that needs Steam to run because I like to own the software that I spend my money on.

For example, I also refuse to do the 365 days, Yearly subscriptions because I just do not like that idea.

The only exception to this, is Antivirus software because I do not have an alternative. I have to pay for the Yearly subs in order to get the updates which are necessary to keep the Antivirus current.

But for anything else, I stay out of it because it is a marketing channel that I do not want to support with my money.

I am of the idea that the software I spend my money on, I own it, and I do not want my money to go to support other ways of marketing software.

There have been games that I would have liked to play and, yet, I have renounced to playing them because they could solely be played through Steam.

And, as much as I like playing UO, if Steam will become the only way to play Ultima Online, I will stick to my principles and thinking, and will give up playing UO for good, rather then make a Steam Account in order to play it.

Ivenor said:

popps said:

Garth_Grey said:

People aren't saying it, but they're already concerned that their 3rd party apps won't work through Steam. The EC should work perfectly though 🙂

That is not my concern.

I never made a Steam Account nor played any game that needs Steam to run because I like to own the software that I spend my money on.

For example, I also refuse to do the 365 days, Yearly subscriptions because I just do not like that idea.

The only exception to this, is Antivirus software because I do not have an alternative. I have to pay for the Yearly subs in order to get the updates which are necessary to keep the Antivirus current.

But for anything else, I stay out of it because it is a marketing channel that I do not want to support with my money.

I am of the idea that the software I spend my money on, I own it, and I do not want my money to go to support other ways of marketing software.

There have been games that I would have liked to play and, yet, I have renounced to playing them because they could solely be played through Steam.

And, as much as I like playing UO, if Steam will become the only way to play Ultima Online, I will stick to my principles and thinking, and will give up playing UO for good, rather then make a Steam Account in order to play it.

Frankly I don't undestand this concerns.

Once dowloaded on a local Win/Mac/Linux machine, one "owns" (insomuch as anybody can "own" any piece of software nowdays) the Games one buys on Steam (or, e.g., GOG), and, FWIK, it is not mandatory to use the aforementioned Platforms for any other things that (free) updates.

And that, IMO, is not different from the mandatory Updateds one has to download any time one launchs, e.g., the official UO Clients, CC or EC.

BTW: There are still very valid free Antivirus around, for which one (for personal use) has no need to pay ANY sub fee...

If I remember it as correctly from hearing it from the News, there has been in the recent Years a Court Decision in Australia and maybe also one from the European Union, addressing this topic about software and rights of buyers....

Personally, I am of the opinion that a buyer spending money on an item, even though a digital item, then, because of that purchase, should get to own the software purchased. Therefore, I like to spend my money on software which I then feel that I own.

At least, that is how I personally see it.

popps said:

Ivenor said:

popps said:

Garth_Grey said:

People aren't saying it, but they're already concerned that their 3rd party apps won't work through Steam. The EC should work perfectly though 🙂

That is not my concern.

I never made a Steam Account nor played any game that needs Steam to run because I like to own the software that I spend my money on.

For example, I also refuse to do the 365 days, Yearly subscriptions because I just do not like that idea.

The only exception to this, is Antivirus software because I do not have an alternative. I have to pay for the Yearly subs in order to get the updates which are necessary to keep the Antivirus current.

But for anything else, I stay out of it because it is a marketing channel that I do not want to support with my money.

I am of the idea that the software I spend my money on, I own it, and I do not want my money to go to support other ways of marketing software.

There have been games that I would have liked to play and, yet, I have renounced to playing them because they could solely be played through Steam.

And, as much as I like playing UO, if Steam will become the only way to play Ultima Online, I will stick to my principles and thinking, and will give up playing UO for good, rather then make a Steam Account in order to play it.

Frankly I don't undestand this concerns.

Once dowloaded on a local Win/Mac/Linux machine, one "owns" (insomuch as anybody can "own" any piece of software nowdays) the Games one buys on Steam (or, e.g., GOG), and, FWIK, it is not mandatory to use the aforementioned Platforms for any other things that (free) updates.

And that, IMO, is not different from the mandatory Updateds one has to download any time one launchs, e.g., the official UO Clients, CC or EC.

BTW: There are still very valid free Antivirus around, for which one (for personal use) has no need to pay ANY sub fee...

If I remember it as correctly from hearing it from the News, there has been in the recent Years a Court Decision in Australia and maybe also one from the European Union, addressing this topic about software and rights of buyers....

Personally, I am of the opinion that a buyer spending money on an item, even though a digital item, then, because of that purchase, should get to own the software purchased. Therefore, I like to spend my money on software which I then feel that I own.

At least, that is how I personally see it.

Garth_Grey said:

People aren't saying it, but they're already concerned that their 3rd party apps won't work through Steam. The EC should work perfectly though 🙂

I'm not playing EC. I just don't like the way it looks at all. If I can't use UOAssist or Automap it may be a deal breaker for me. That or they need to update the cc to integrate more features that UOA has such as mouse macros.

Ivenor said:

An idle speculation: what if, instead than on Steam, a GOG landing was in preparation???

Keeping in mind that ALL the other games in the Ultima Family are already available on GOG and nothing is instead available on Steam, hmmm...

I would keep playing UO if through GOG, for example....

popps said:

Ivenor said:

An idle speculation: what if, instead than on Steam, a GOG landing was in preparation???

Keeping in mind that ALL the other games in the Ultima Family are already available on GOG and nothing is instead available on Steam, hmmm...

I would keep playing UO if through GOG, for example....

Maximus_Neximus said:

Garth_Grey said:

People aren't saying it, but they're already concerned that their 3rd party apps won't work through Steam. The EC should work perfectly though 🙂

I'm not playing EC. I just don't like the way it looks at all. If I can't use UOAssist or Automap it may be a deal breaker for me. That or they need to update the cc to integrate more features that UOA has such as mouse macros.

They have already done that! It is called EC... 🙂

Actually, it'd be nice to see UO on Steam and GoG (And Epic for that matter). Maybe they are working on a digital distribution package they can apply to any of the online services.

Probably be better if they got it squared away on Origin first though.

It would be kind of odd if UO was on competing digital platforms, but not on the one of the company which owns UO. 

'Course, it is EA...…..

Having fun with a few more! 

Potential Achievements (PvP Style)

You Da Bomb!	Kill another player with a Supernova potion
Purple People Eater	Kill another player with an Explosion potion
It's all fun and games….	Kill another player with a bow
My spleen, my spleen!	Kill another player with a mace
No, fork you!	Kill another player with a warfork
Mines bigger.	Kill another player with a broadsword
Pincushion	Kill another player with a fukiya dart
I got you babe	Dismount another player with a bola
Shot to the heart	Kill another player with a boomerrang
And your to blame	Get your first murder count

Potential Achievements (Theives)

Five finger discount	Steal an item from a shopkeeper strongbox
Sticky fingers	Steal an item from another player
What's in your wallet?	Snoop in another player's backpack
Hey, what's that over there?	Steal an item from a monster
Iocane Powder	Kill something with poison
That's gonna leave a mark	Set off an explosion trap

Those Achievements make me not want to play thru Steam.  

A few folks have told me that if we go to steam we will not have classic client. UO wouldn't get rid of classic right? 

Would we have to Log into UO using Steam?  Or will Steam just provide a link to the Client download page.

If we have to use Steam, can we play on more than 1 account at a time?

Lots of unknowns.

As far as I remember from the original discussions when we voted for it, and my memory isn't terribly clear I admit, UO on steam wouldn't affect us long time players at all. We'd still log in as we do now. It would be an alternative way to access the servers.

I hope I'm remembering right, but someone who actually knows would have to confirm that.

Pawain said:

Those Achievements make me not want to play thru Steam.  

Honestly, the UO team would actually have to bother to build achievements at all. Many games don't bother with achievements. UO could also go the route of AoE for achievements and just do gameplay stuff, i.e. you get an achievement for every title of every skill, etc. Either way, BS would actually have to want to do cheevos. The little graphics and all the additional programing to make achievements work might not be worthwhile. Although, there is an entire subset of the modern gaming market that does achievement hunting.....

Soldahouse said:

A few folks have told me that if we go to steam we will not have classic client. UO wouldn't get rid of classic right? 

I've seen this too. It sounds like nonsense to me. There are other games on Steam with multiple clients or versions, you just click "play" and you can choose which version to load, or you can select "always load" a specific version.

I don't think UO being available through Steam will effect the clients in any way.

I realize some of this fearmongering is because of the cheats used mostly with the CC and that Steam does offer developers some tools to curb cheating, so people using CC to cheat are freaking out. 

However, you'll probably still be able to load UO as you do now, without Steam at all, so any Steam anti-cheating stuff could just be ignored anyway. Plus, lots of games on Steam have 3rd party programs. Hell, steam has a workshop page for each game where the community can upload mods for each game. UO's workshop will probably be filled with 3rd party apps. 

So, Steam or not, CC, third party apps, and all the scripting is most likely to continue on as normal.

Pawain said:

Would we have to Log into UO using Steam?  Or will Steam just provide a link to the Client download page.

If we have to use Steam, can we play on more than 1 account at a time?

Lots of unknowns.

I think one of the problems is the language we've all been using. As player's we've all been saying "UO is going to steam" or something like that. It's probably more correct to say "UO will also be available through Steam". As in, UO will still be available through UO.com, but it will now also be in the Steam marketplace.

You're a smart guy Pawain, do you really think that EA is going to take UO stuff away from Origin, EA's own service, remove the game from UO.com, it's own domain, and make it only available through a direct competitor (Steam)? Seems doubtful doesn't it? (The brand new Chevy Corvette, only available through Ford dealers! Get yours now!)

It seems more likely UO will still be available from UO.com, and you'll be able to load and play as always. For those who use Steam (which is like 15 million people daily), UO will now also be available through Steam.

I think of it like having a small shop in a small town. You do a decent business, but your market is the local area. Then you put your wares on Amazon. Now you have two ways to sell, your shop, and Amazon. You don't tell people who come in the shop, "Sorry, we only sell on Amazon". 

This is all assuming that UO is even going to be available on Steam. Maybe they are just re-working the Origin site and are going to put a link to UO on EA's own site? Crazy right? That'd still expose UO to it's Largest Audience evarh!

You know, if they really are looking at Steam (or digital marketplaces in general) it'd make sense to launch with a bright shiny new thing to catch that new market's attention. Like playable Orcs. 

Arroth_Thaiel said:

Having fun with a few more! 

Potential Achievements (PvP Style)

You Da Bomb!	Kill another player with a Supernova potion
Purple People Eater	Kill another player with an Explosion potion
It's all fun and games….	Kill another player with a bow
My spleen, my spleen!	Kill another player with a mace
No, fork you!	Kill another player with a warfork
Mines bigger.	Kill another player with a broadsword
Pincushion	Kill another player with a fukiya dart
I got you babe	Dismount another player with a bola
Shot to the heart	Kill another player with a boomerrang
And your to blame	Get your first murder count

Potential Achievements (Theives)

Five finger discount	Steal an item from a shopkeeper strongbox
Sticky fingers	Steal an item from another player
What's in your wallet?	Snoop in another player's backpack
Hey, what's that over there?	Steal an item from a monster
Iocane Powder	Kill something with poison
That's gonna leave a mark	Set off an explosion trap

Just out of curiosity has anyone with any real connection with Broadsword or EA even mentioned Steam in the last year or two? If so I missed it.

Tim said:

Just out of curiosity has anyone with any real connection with Broadsword or EA even mentioned Steam in the last year or two? If so I missed it.

Tim said:

Just out of curiosity has anyone with any real connection with Broadsword or EA even mentioned Steam in the last year or two? If so I missed it.

All I am aware of is the DAOC team talking about looking at making DAOC available on Steam and having a great 2020.

Other than that, just having fun!

 ByArroth_Thaiel said:

Pawain said:

Those Achievements make me not want to play thru Steam.  

Honestly, the UO team would actually have to bother to build achievements at all. Many games don't bother with achievements. UO could also go the route of AoE for achievements and just do gameplay stuff, i.e. you get an achievement for every title of every skill, etc. Either way, BS would actually have to want to do cheevos. The little graphics and all the additional programing to make achievements work might not be worthwhile. Although, there is an entire subset of the modern gaming market that does achievement hunting.....

Soldahouse said:

A few folks have told me that if we go to steam we will not have classic client. UO wouldn't get rid of classic right? 

I've seen this too. It sounds like nonsense to me. There are other games on Steam with multiple clients or versions, you just click "play" and you can choose which version to load, or you can select "always load" a specific version.

I don't think UO being available through Steam will effect the clients in any way.

I realize some of this fearmongering is because of the cheats used mostly with the CC and that Steam does offer developers some tools to curb cheating, so people using CC to cheat are freaking out. 

However, you'll probably still be able to load UO as you do now, without Steam at all, so any Steam anti-cheating stuff could just be ignored anyway. Plus, lots of games on Steam have 3rd party programs. Hell, steam has a workshop page for each game where the community can upload mods for each game. UO's workshop will probably be filled with 3rd party apps. 

So, Steam or not, CC, third party apps, and all the scripting is most likely to continue on as normal.

Pawain said:

Would we have to Log into UO using Steam?  Or will Steam just provide a link to the Client download page.

If we have to use Steam, can we play on more than 1 account at a time?

Lots of unknowns.

I think one of the problems is the language we've all been using. As player's we've all been saying "UO is going to steam" or something like that. It's probably more correct to say "UO will also be available through Steam". As in, UO will still be available through UO.com, but it will now also be in the Steam marketplace.

You're a smart guy Pawain, do you really think that EA is going to take UO stuff away from Origin, EA's own service, remove the game from UO.com, it's own domain, and make it only available through a direct competitor (Steam)? Seems doubtful doesn't it? (The brand new Chevy Corvette, only available through Ford dealers! Get yours now!)

It seems more likely UO will still be available from UO.com, and you'll be able to load and play as always. For those who use Steam (which is like 15 million people daily), UO will now also be available through Steam.

I think of it like having a small shop in a small town. You do a decent business, but your market is the local area. Then you put your wares on Amazon. Now you have two ways to sell, your shop, and Amazon. You don't tell people who come in the shop, "Sorry, we only sell on Amazon". 

This is all assuming that UO is even going to be available on Steam. Maybe they are just re-working the Origin site and are going to put a link to UO on EA's own site? Crazy right? That'd still expose UO to it's Largest Audience evarh!

You know, if they really are looking at Steam (or digital marketplaces in general) it'd make sense to launch with a bright shiny new thing to catch that new market's attention. Like playable Orcs. 

Thanks for the info. 

Could be a lot of population changes.

I think they just start a new server when this goes to Steam.

LMAO  UO Will never go to Steam.  This was EAs answer to Steam  https://www.origin.com/usa/en-us/store

Bilbo said:

LMAO  UO Will never go to Steam.  This was EAs answer to Steam  https://www.origin.com/usa/en-us/store

"Never"...

Bilbo said:

LMAO  UO Will never go to Steam.  This was EAs answer to Steam  https://www.origin.com/usa/en-us/store

Sometimes, things change:

"EA games are returning to Steam along with the EA Access subscription service."

https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/29/20937055/ea-games-steam-access-subscription-service-pc-storefront-jedi-fallen-order-sales

As such:

"In addition to the momentum from Endless Conquest and this future momentum from these alternate servers, we are also in the midst of an investigation into bringing DAoC onto Steam! 2020 is going to be a great year for Dark Age of Camelot and with these plans coming to fruition, there will be many more ahead!"

https://www.darkageofcamelot.com/article/friday-grab-bag-12132019

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Seems reasonable that if BS makes DAOC available on Steam, that UO could also be available on Steam.

I won't hold my breath or anything, but at least reasonable. Also, that Verge article answers one of my questions about EA accounts and Steam accounts. Hmm....


P.S. Credit to Margrette for pointing out the DAoC info!

its not on steam jet and they already messup it.
Languages: English, Japanese  ? really ? were the other languages ?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249850626

most people will think , its japanese game
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And this : 
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/249850626/613935403954467661/
Private Free Shards , servers WUT !!!!

praha said:

its not on steam jet and they already messup it.
Languages: English, Japanese  ? really ? were the other languages ?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249850626

most people will think , its japanese game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this : 
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/249850626/613935403954467661/
Private Free Shards , servers WUT !!!!

Praha these are posts from ***2014***!!!

Ivenor said:

Praha these are posts from ***2014***!!!

Please, there are enough... “persons” already that try to disrupt the discussion with FUD...

The FACTS are that, as TODAY, there are NO Official Info on what will happens coming March.

March! That's optimistic. 

The newsletter said they are just beginning to design and build the biggest thing in over a decade. 

I'm thinking more along the lines of Q4 next year. 

Arroth_Thaiel said:

Ivenor said:

Praha these are posts from ***2014***!!!

Please, there are enough... “persons” already that try to disrupt the discussion with FUD...

The FACTS are that, as TODAY, there are NO Official Info on what will happens coming March.

March! That's optimistic. 

The newsletter said they are just beginning to design and build the biggest thing in over a decade. 

I'm thinking more along the lines of Q4 next year. 

Well, this is from the article:

" While this doesn't tell players anything about what to expect, they can expect it to happen at some point during March of 2020 "


So that is where he is getting the March estimate.

Arroth_Thaiel said:

Ivenor said:

Praha these are posts from ***2014***!!!

Please, there are enough... “persons” already that try to disrupt the discussion with FUD...

The FACTS are that, as TODAY, there are NO Official Info on what will happens coming March.

March! That's optimistic. 

The newsletter said they are just beginning to design and build the biggest thing in over a decade. 

I'm thinking more along the lines of Q4 next year. 

Bilbo has it right... EA put its foot down on Steam.  I doubt Denton got the board or the rest of the EA big wigs to change their minds.  Now I could be wrong … but its EA who runs this show and purse strings no matter what Broadsword says or does.   If so... we might be looking at a longer run and more players but for how long ? 

Steam reviews would tear uo to shreds

monkgamer said:

Well, this is from the article:

" While this doesn't tell players anything about what to expect, they can expect it to happen at some point during March of 2020 "


So that is where he is getting the March estimate.

Yeah, I saw that. I think the writer of the article got Pub 108 (March - assuming a pub every 3-4 months still) conflated with whatever the biggest and boldest endeavor is.

Lady_Storm said:

Bilbo has it right... EA put its foot down on Steam.  I doubt Denton got the board or the rest of the EA big wigs to change their minds.  Now I could be wrong … but its EA who runs this show and purse strings no matter what Broadsword says or does.   If so... we might be looking at a longer run and more players but for how long ? 

Again, EA has re-evaluated their stance regarding Steam. It's all over the gaming news. Has been for a couple months. It's a new, purposeful corporate strategy by EA - words that should send a chill down the spine of anyone who reads them. 

BS can certainly take advantage of EA's new approach and that appears to be exactly the case with DAoC.

Cetric said:

Steam reviews would tear uo to shreds

They should make Siege Perilous the only shard accessible through Steam. That would really make the reviews interesting to read!

My circle of friends and I are laying money on a new distro for.... LINUX! Or Apple....

Maybe a Java version? We were tinkering with a Java version of a game that ran encapsulated packets to the server side for data - but most of the heavy lifting was on the client side. So.....


Meh...

...a girl can wish.

Ivenor said:

praha said:

its not on steam jet and they already messup it.
Languages: English, Japanese  ? really ? were the other languages ?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249850626

most people will think , its japanese game
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And this : 
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/249850626/613935403954467661/
Private Free Shards , servers WUT !!!!

Praha these are posts from ***2014***!!!

Please, there are enough... “persons” already that try to disrupt the discussion with FUD...

The FACTS are that, as TODAY, there are NO Official Info on what will happens coming March.

DAoC is the flagship game for broadsword and they are a bit better at communication. UO has to follow suit... DAoC got endless quest.. we got endless journey.... DAoC setup a merch shop.... UO followed with the highly professional swag store. DAoC goes steam.... well... have a guess.. or believe that Bonnie is coming up all this and has a say in it lol.

JollyJade said:

Ivenor said:

praha said:

its not on steam jet and they already messup it.
Languages: English, Japanese  ? really ? were the other languages ?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249850626

most people will think , its japanese game
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And this : 
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/249850626/613935403954467661/
Private Free Shards , servers WUT !!!!

Praha these are posts from ***2014***!!!

Please, there are enough... “persons” already that try to disrupt the discussion with FUD...

The FACTS are that, as TODAY, there are NO Official Info on what will happens coming March.

DAoC is the flagship game for broadsword and they are a bit better at communication. UO has to follow suit... DAoC got endless quest.. we got endless journey.... DAoC setup a merch shop.... UO followed with the highly professional swag store. DAoC goes steam.... well... have a guess.. or believe that Bonnie is coming up all this and has a say in it lol.

And you comment adds what to my observation ("as TODAY (...) NO Official Info") in the last sentence of my post?

Nothing.. just saying it's pretty obvious where the journey is headed... even though there is no official word from the UO branch within BS. It's a discussion board, isn't it?

Cetric said:

Steam reviews would tear uo to shreds

Maybe there will be moderators deleting everything not making the positivity threshold? Or maybe not

JollyJade said:

. DAoC setup a merch shop.... UO followed with the highly professional swag store. 

LOL  OMG the ultimate example of tongue-in-cheek reporting lol.

I'll be laughing for a while

BS will not do anything with DAoC or UO without EAs blessing.  EA owns DAoC and UO and hired BS to maintain it.  It is all a pipe dream until EA says ok.  Also remember EA controls all the real money.

Bilbo said:

BS will not do anything with DAoC or UO without EAs blessing.  EA owns DAoC and UO and hired BS to maintain it.  It is all a pipe dream until EA says ok.  Also remember EA controls all the real money.

AtomicBetty said:

Bilbo said:

BS will not do anything with DAoC or UO without EAs blessing.  EA owns DAoC and UO and hired BS to maintain it.  It is all a pipe dream until EA says ok.  Also remember EA controls all the real money.

You can pretty much bet on UO going to steam. DAoC is planning on bringing their game to steam and I imagine both games have the same goal.

BS will do nothing without EAs blessing.  BS can lay all the BS it wants to but until EA (you know the people that OWN DAoC and UO) tells them it is ok then BS will do nothing but talk, talk and more talk.

Bilbo said:

AtomicBetty said:

Bilbo said:

BS will not do anything with DAoC or UO without EAs blessing.  EA owns DAoC and UO and hired BS to maintain it.  It is all a pipe dream until EA says ok.  Also remember EA controls all the real money.

You can pretty much bet on UO going to steam. DAoC is planning on bringing their game to steam and I imagine both games have the same goal.

BS will do nothing without EAs blessing.  BS can lay all the BS it wants to but until EA (you know the people that OWN DAoC and UO) tells them it is ok then BS will do nothing but talk, talk and more talk.

Read the Links.   EA is sending their games to Steam also.

Ignorance is bliss

I am not sure why they would waste time with steam. It isn't gonna help anything. My evidence is everquest, everquest 2, secret world, uncharted waters online, and ryzom which I was all apart of them when they went stream. None of them got new players because of steam at all. The only thing it will do is make it so people can buy stuff with steam money, which will be useful I suppose, but it is riddled with problems. Ff14 is a nightmare when it comes to steam.

The only one I have seen that got more people from steam, was archeage unchained. Which honestly had nothing to do with steam. They took a pay 2 win game removed the sub made it not pay 2 win, and buy 2 play.

So the only way I could see this working is if they marketed a new server called ulitma online unleased or something, remove the cash shop minus cosmetics,  remove the sub and make it buy 2 play
 Then make it steam only with the valve anti cheat, so it bans your entire steam account for cheating. Making it enchanced client only to also limit cheating. Making it so a sub just allows you to have a house. That way all the cheaters, scripter, rmt people that buy and sell gold and houses, can stay on old uo, and all the non cheaters can go to steam, and it would attract new players that dont want cheaters, and hate pay 2 win games which ulitma online is. 

They will do least effort possible cause it not even their call or their idea. 

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Quiggley August 28 in General Board

"Recently an EA game hit Steam with good success. It also seems as if UO might be going there with the announcement on Sep 23rd. Seems as though EA is finally giving the go ahead. So when could we expect this if possible?"

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Broadsword is preparing a massive repossession of abandoned houses in DAoC come Patch 1.127, which is currently in testing. This will affect any houses that are condemned and have a repossession timer on them due to their associated accounts being inactive. In short, if you haven’t logged in for more than three months, you should do so ASAP.

https://massivelyop.com/2020/08/17/dark-age-of-camelot-prepares-to-repossess-a-lot-of-abandoned-houses/

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https://community.stratics.com/threads/tons-of-idocs-over-the-next-few-days.417651/


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"...and bring Ultima Online to the largest audience ever..."

This is the first online game I have played.  Not at all familiar with the different platforms.  A little embarrassed to ask but what is Steam?  Thanks.

Arnold7 said:

This is the first online game I have played.  Not at all familiar with the different platforms.  A little embarrassed to ask but what is Steam?  Thanks.

Think of it like a store that only sells video games, but with the size and market reach of Amazon.com or Walmart.