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Considering how the "Beacons' Bug" has slowed down their gameplay, will we get them for longer ?

Started by popps · 2019-08-17 · 46 posts · General Discussions
#0
And I am referring to "also" the Black Market....

The Beacons' Bug has hurt quite a lot the getting of Maritime Trade Cargos to turn them in for Rewards at the Black Market in Buc's Den....

Can we therefore hope that their existance, not just Beacons and Maritime Trade Cargos, but ALSO of the Black Market and its Rewards, will be further extended to "compensate" players for their reduced ability of earning and turning in Cargos for Rewards due to the Beacons' Bug which has not yet been fixed, that I am aware of ?

Thanks !
#1
People have had plenty time to get what they want. It's been since what end of March!!!!!!!! I used my main account and my hubby's account to fight the beacons. If anyone wanted a boat ride, I let them come sail with me and helped them til they got what they wanted. I helped ALL cities on Chessy to max their treasury. (Except for New Mag which was already maxed when the event began.) I got all the rewards I wanted and more. I have popped 15 Triton statues and have 26 more unpopped. I got parrots for multiple toons, cannons for my orc boats, over 200 wooden signs (none with my name but that's a whole different post.), and at least one of each of the others. I have saved 2 bags of crates to use for Jhelom as the treasury uses the money. I have the crates I need to donate to the fellowship.

I did all this 2 crates at a time from countless beacons. Yes the buggy beacons are a pain but they are not hindering anyone in the long run. I could have even more but I haven't fought the beacons in a week or two.

Fill the up all the cannons on an orc boat and call out in gen chat one night for a beacon night.
#2
Marge, not everyone can play 24/7 and do all of the stuff you've done with their limited time in game. Imagine you only had 2 hrs to enjoy one night and 4 out of the 5 beacons you found were shoreline or server line (yes they keep firing near the server line too). Popps, while he does tend to go off the edge on his posts, isn't far off the mark on this one.
#3
Sorry some of you are struggling with this. I just don't see an issue bad enough to not get as many crates as you want. It is rare to see a beacon butt up against a server line. If you do see one, move on, capture a pirate you see nearby. A new beacon will spawn soon enough.

If for some reason you only see beacons butt up against a server line or land, then go after merchants and pirates.  The lower end cargo adds up quickly even with just one char.

Of course, that doesn't help if you are relying on 8 chars to shoot at a beacon for max rewards and you will get no sympathy from me. 

In the meantime, I love having the seas pretty much to myself.

But as far as I am concerned, sure keep the Black Market Pirate up forever!
#4
I'm not a fan of limited-time events like this, to begin with, so I'd like to see there be some way of getting these rewards after the main story arc has completed. 
#5
Grace said:
Sorry some of you are struggling with this. I just don't see an issue bad enough to not get as many crates as you want. It is rare to see a beacon butt up against a server line. If you do see one, move on, capture a pirate you see nearby. A new beacon will spawn soon enough.

If for some reason you only see beacons butt up against a server line or land, then go after merchants and pirates.  The lower end cargo adds up quickly even with just one char.

Of course, that doesn't help if you are relying on 8 chars to shoot at a beacon for max rewards and you will get no sympathy from me. 

In the meantime, I love having the seas pretty much to myself.

But as far as I am concerned, sure keep the Black Market Pirate up forever!
Translation: The game is fine for you, everyone else can pound sand :P
#6
 😂 at Garth's reply.

Is there a better place to do them in Tram than where I try.  I start at Jhelom  and go NE.  Targets are too spread out and scarce.

Thanks

@Grace ; Why shouldn't we expect the game to work as intended? I have not seen any of your Pics in the bug thread on this. Since you think you know what is too close to land and not too close maybe your input will help fix this bug.
#7
I gave my input re this bug in an email. 

Forgive me for sharing that I have been doing fine with beacons.

Again, I only avoid the beacons right on the edge of land and server lines.

I play one acct at a time in classic client.

There is nothing else to try to help you guys with this.

Hope it gets fixed to your satisfaction. I did agree about not wanting the Black Market Pirate to leave.








#8
Karyn said:
I'm not a fan of limited-time events like this, to begin with, so I'd like to see there be some way of getting these rewards after the main story arc has completed. 
AMEN
#9
I only wish I could play 24/7. I babysit during the day and have my own kids. I haven't been logging in til 7pm or later since this started. If you only get 2 hours and only find 4 to 5 beacons total, you are in the wrong spot. Even with buggy beacons, I can find and kill at least 4 good beacons in an hour. Again, call out in gen chat that you are sailing for beacons. The faster you sink the beacons the more you can sink in your limited time. Not everything in this game has to be soloed.
#10
Grace said:
I gave my input re this bug in an email. 

Forgive me for sharing that I have been doing fine with beacons.

Again, I only avoid the beacons right on the edge of land and server lines.

I play one acct at a time in classic client.

There is nothing else to try to help you guys with this.

Hope it gets fixed to your satisfaction. I did agree about not wanting the Black Market Pirate to leave.
"Again, I only avoid the beacons right on the edge of land and server lines."

Which, since Beacons have a "timer" before they can respawn elsewhere at a place where they are not "bugged", makes the number of those Attackable ones MUCH lower....

Which it greatly slows down players in their ability to gather Mythical Maritime Cargo Crates especially those players who already have a limited time to play UO to start with....

If, of a handfull of Beacons 2 or 3 happen to get spawned in "bugged" places, and players have to wait for them to vanish and reappeat somewhere else, hoping that it is not again a bugged place, this DOES slow down greatly players' ability to gather Mythical crates and, thus, get Rewards from the Black Market, especially for players with limited time to play UO, doesn't it ?
#11
Marge said:
I only wish I could play 24/7. I babysit during the day and have my own kids. I haven't been logging in til 7pm or later since this started. If you only get 2 hours and only find 4 to 5 beacons total, you are in the wrong spot. Even with buggy beacons, I can find and kill at least 4 good beacons in an hour. Again, call out in gen chat that you are sailing for beacons. The faster you sink the beacons the more you can sink in your limited time. Not everything in this game has to be soloed.

I was hunting in Tokuno.  I do not know where the right spot is in Tram.  The place I go does yield less than 4 Beacons in 2 hours because they are so sparse and spread out.
#12
That few in Tokuno? Just south over the server line from Zento docks is one spot. Then you sail east past the the snow cap follow the mountain down and sail around that mountain island. Make sure you use 'Start tracking'. Half of those will be player boats but it can help find beacons if you are having trouble. In that area, there were many times two beacons would be side by side or another would spawn before the first one sank.
#13
Marge said:
That few in Tokuno? Just south over the server line from Zento docks is one spot. Then you sail east past the the snow cap follow the mountain down and sail around that mountain island. Make sure you use 'Start tracking'. Half of those will be player boats but it can help find beacons if you are having trouble. In that area, there were many times two beacons would be side by side or another would spawn before the first one sank.

NO.  I stopped hunting in Tokuno because most are near land.   I could find beacon after beacon in Tokuno.  Now that I have moved to NE of Jhelom I find few beacons.

I am asking, where are good spots in TRAM.
#14
There are no good spots in tram.
#15
Just shut it down already. They cant fix it and it just plain makes them look silly. 
#16
jelinidas said:
Just shut it down already. They cant fix it and it just plain makes them look silly. 

They figure they dont have to fix it, since the apologists are all making excuses for it and telling people affected by it to move on and find a workaround
#17
Marge said:
There are no good spots in tram.

Ouch.  That answer hurt. 🙁 
Thanks.
#18
Not to stir the pot even more but I'm beginning to think the number of mythical cargo awarded per beacon has been lowered. 
#19
Even thou I have posted screen shots several times on the main bug thread showing locations of bad beacons I have no problems finding beacons that are not close to land. You do need to hunt for them.  Some nights I find 1 or 2 beacons.  Other nights I find 8 beacons. That is part of the fun of the game.
#20
Please keep in mind that rule 1 requires posters to post respectfully.
#21
I just read all of the posts, can you at least tell us which one(s) you think are disrespectful ?

Thank you
#22
I just read all of the posts, can you at least tell us which one(s) you think are disrespectful ?

Thank you
Anything with Uriah Heep, Garth, or Jollyjade in the header?   LOL
#23
I'm sure the thinking on the tmaps was "just release what we want to, they'll bitch awhile and then shutup."

Interestingly enough, I'm still pissed about it tho...as are a few others I know
#24
I just read all of the posts, can you at least tell us which one(s) you think are disrespectful ?

Thank you
A post which is respectful does not belittle someone else. 

#25
Pawain said:
Is there a better place to do them in Tram than where I try.  I start at Jhelom  and go NE.  Targets are too spread out and scarce.

Have you tried the area between Moonglow and the Floating Emporium?
#26
I just read all of the posts, can you at least tell us which one(s) you think are disrespectful ?

Thank you
The post she was referring to was removed. I saw it last night before it was removed. Good Call Mariah.
#27
@Marge thanks for saying you saw the post before it was removed.  When ever a @Mariah post shows up right after one of mine I tend to think she is referring to my post and I wonder what I wrote that was inappropriate.
#28
Pawain said:
Is there a better place to do them in Tram than where I try.  I start at Jhelom  and go NE.  Targets are too spread out and scarce.

Have you tried the area between Moonglow and the Floating Emporium?

Nope, I just know where they are in Tokuno and Jhelom.  I did not do much cannon fighting until this year.  I'll try there thanks. 
Mariah said:
I just read all of the posts, can you at least tell us which one(s) you think are disrespectful ?

Thank you
A post which is respectful does not belittle someone else. 


Can you please PM me the post, I didn't get to read it. Thanks  🙂
#29
Probably one of mine...
#30
bump. @Kyronix any official statement on extending the event due to this still standing issue? Does he even read outside the free QA forum?
#31
Oh, and any news on the fix? ORr will you guys just leave the bug until the event is shut down?

(@Mariah I hope this post is not disrepectful, feel free to remove them as usual if you don't like them)
#32
Probably one of mine...
Nah, was mine, but was spot on and they can't handle that 😂
#33
Telling people to find a workaround is not really a solution, this is a subscription game and content is paid for therefore it should work properly or at least be fixed in a timely manner if it goes wrong. There are plenty of free MMO's out there that take fixing bugs and having working seasonal/temporary content very seriously. I can see why people are getting annoyed.  :/
#34
jaytin said:
I can see why people are getting annoyed.  :/
Unfortunately nobody at Broadsword seems to see that...
#35
LOL y'all give it up.  Now everyone's upper level maps have converted to level 3's...
Perhaps they will fix that?

#36
the beacons will still be there in Publish 106
and you will still get cargo drops
#37
the beacons will still be there in Publish 106
and you will still get cargo drops
And what about the Black Market ?

For many players having scarce time at hand to play UO, the Beacon BUG has severely limited their capacity to get Rewards from the Black Market....

Shouldn't then ALSO the Black Market existance be validated across Publish 106 ?
#38
popps said:
the beacons will still be there in Publish 106
and you will still get cargo drops
And what about the Black Market ?

For many players having scarce time at hand to play UO, the Beacon BUG has severely limited their capacity to get Rewards from the Black Market....

Shouldn't then ALSO the Black Market existance be validated across Publish 106 ?
the Black Market is still there

#39
How has the bug severely limited their capacity when the majority of beacons can be found in deep water away from land and do not have the problem? Something like 95% of the beacons I've encountered are in deep water.
#40
I've been hitting them hard all of last week, I would say 30-40% were either too close to land, near a server line, or stacked so close together that you couldn't complete them.
#41
popps said:
the beacons will still be there in Publish 106
and you will still get cargo drops
And what about the Black Market ?

For many players having scarce time at hand to play UO, the Beacon BUG has severely limited their capacity to get Rewards from the Black Market....

Shouldn't then ALSO the Black Market existance be validated across Publish 106 ?
the Black Market is still there

That's good News then.... with all of the rewards ?
#42
Yes, all of the rewards are still available from the black market.
#43
you want new/returning players to leave and never come back? this has already happened because a number of things have been removed from game banes just off the top of my head, the high seas is a PAID for expansion that I paid for when I first came back to UO a few months ago, if they remove content I PAID to play then I expect my money back on all of my accounts that i PAID for this expansion of content on
#44
I %1000000000000 agree with @Dasilva that if content is added to the game then it should be permanent.  PLEASE stop adding temporary content.
@Kyronix @Bleak @Mesanna
#45
o.0

High Seas expansion is clearly stated as to what it contains, and I do believe anyone who bought the expansion received that content.

The current EVENT ARC with new and different mobs/rewards (meaning the beacons, their drops, and the rewards you can get) is actually a feature of the game itself that is NOT directly related to the purchase of the High Seas expansion. As is the Bane, Ophidian Invasion, Undead rampage, destruction of Magincia... etc. Since the early days of Sosaria, temporary content is what helped make this game what it is.

What is wrong with having temporary content related to a temporary event or story arc which is what UO is known for and helps make it stand out in the mire of online gaming options? Other titles do similar, but their arcs are much longer and probably more elaborate due to the way the games are made - so it seems like the items are there forever. Season in Diablo serves up temporary rewards - do ppl complain about it? No, they look forward to the next season for the new set of rewards. UO, being a somewhat simpler game (in that respect) is able to put in and remove such content/events/arcs with relative ease (case in point, Halloween content).

Now... what would be interesting is if the beacon/pirate things come and go, (again, like the seasonal Halloween content) and perhaps new stuff added to the Blackmarket (which, by nature, would also come and go). That would, first of all, give some variety to the normal game, and give people something to look forward to (like, uh, Halloween). Maybe during the summer months, seafaring folk can deal with beacons and an uptick of pirates... after all, historical records show raiding was commonly done more in the warmer months of the year.

I want huge Viking ships and Valkyrie and more Celtic artwork!!! Will I get them, probably not - the Norse mythos doesn't really fit in with Ultima lore.

And, something to consider, maybe the devs are planning to make this a perma-feature of the game - so what if they don't make a huge announcement - maybe the entire thing is a test to something permanent in the future? Maybe they are seeing how players of the game (vocal and not) respond to this type of content.


Do you really need to KNOW everything right away?!
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