Enhanced or Classic what do you prefer and why?

I've played both, they each have their advantages and disadvantages. I have noticed that EC ppl tend to be 'faster' running wise for PvP. 

Classic.
I just can't grasp certain things in EC. For some reason the smoothness and movements also makes me dizzy. I do try to use EC for a few little functions though.

EC with Pinco's for ease of use.

Slow news day 

EC for so meany reasons the main being I don't have to add in or run 3rd party applications. 

Tim said:

EC for so meany reasons the main being I don't have to add in or run 3rd party applications. 

So every single player in your guild uses EC so they know where you are and you don’t need uocartographer?

@Tim does the EC Map have all the functions as UOAM.  Can you put in the location of say 100 SOSs.

Gidge said:

Classic.
I just can't grasp certain things in EC. For some reason the smoothness and movements also makes me dizzy. I do try to use EC for a few little functions though.

I also have problems much like that and can have an "Attack" just sitting there in EC, the room will start to spin and I feel as if I am going to fall out of mine office chair, so I avoid EC using only the scroll in and out feature it has to help others to place in tight locations.  I also hate the art work in EC!  It is "Lousy"

EC because it has better and smoother graphics, I can actually read the gumps, better macros, bag and chests are grid based and not mess based, zoom in and out, etc.
The CC looks like 20 year old 8 bit chunky graphics. 

Mervyn said:

Tim said:

EC for so meany reasons the main being I don't have to add in or run 3rd party applications. 

So every single player in your guild uses EC so they know where you are and you don’t need uocartographer?

I would get kicked from our guild if I didn’t connect to map. 

Mervyn said:

Slow news day 

 😂  😂 😂

A fresh and new topic! Yay

IBTL

Mervyn said:

Tim said:

EC for so meany reasons the main being I don't have to add in or run 3rd party applications. 

So every single player in your guild uses EC so they know where you are and you don’t need uocartographer?

No.  I and my friends don't use a map app to tell were we are at all times. If one of us need to know were the other is we ask in chat or some other way. On some occasions when appropriate we party and use the built in map.

I personally find the idea of even people I know and trust having to know were I am at all times in game slightly stalker creepy. 

Or do they just need to know were you are to be elsewhere? 

Pawain said:

Mervyn said:

Slow news day 

 😂  😂 😂

A fresh and new topic! Yay

IBTL

Waiting for opinions on which client should be immediately discontinued.

Sliss said:

Pawain said:

Mervyn said:

Slow news day 

 😂  😂 😂

A fresh and new topic! Yay

IBTL

Waiting for opinions on which client should be immediately discontinued.

This is an important discussion that is too often kill because someone has decided their "side" is losing. 

New and some times old players don't necessarily know the plus and minuses of each client. If we don't talk about it how can they know. If it wasn't for discussions like this one I for one wouldn't know that EC apparently give some people headaches. Information I could now pass on to a new player thinking of quitting because he gets headaches.

Tim said:

If it wasn't for discussions like this one I for one wouldn't know that EC apparently give some people headaches. Information I could now pass on to a new player thinking of quitting because he gets headaches.

Oh I would not worry about that. The only people I heard complaining of headaches in EC are the current CC users. Miraculously, I have never seen a new user complain of this. Which is not to say it's not real. It is uncomfortable for me to look at jittery movement in CC. I suppose, if over the years, your brain and eyes adapt to it to the point where jerky movement looks normal, seeing smooth movement all of a sudden can be disconcerting.

I’ve yet to see anyone at a meet and greet ask why there are running and casting speed differences with the clients and if they intend to make them equal. Instead we get shills asking stupid questions about adding plants like snowdrops to the ant quest. 

Bilbo said:

@ Tim does the EC Map have all the functions as UOAM.  Can you put in the location of say 100 SOSs.

Sliss said:

Tim said:

If it wasn't for discussions like this one I for one wouldn't know that EC apparently give some people headaches. Information I could now pass on to a new player thinking of quitting because he gets headaches.

Oh I would not worry about that. The only people I heard complaining of headaches in EC are the current CC users. Miraculously, I have never seen a new user complain of this. Which is not to say it's not real. It is uncomfortable for me to look at jittery movement in CC. I suppose, if over the years, your brain and eyes adapt to it to the point where jerky movement looks normal, seeing smooth movement all of a sudden can be disconcerting.

I get a motion sickness type ill when looking at any 3d type fast movement game. HD TV does the same.

I wonder if the headaches are caused by running the EC in full screen mode with an odd refresh rate.  I normally do not use full screen mode but on a hunch I just switched on the full screen mode and changed the refresh rate to 40 fps and I got a headache really fast.

TimSt said:

I wonder if the headaches are caused by running the EC in full screen mode with an odd refresh rate.  I normally do not use full screen mode but on a hunch I just switched on the full screen mode and changed the refresh rate to 40 fps and I got a headache really fast.

I play in a windowed mode when I do and get the woozies.I didn't know there was a refresh rate for the EC screen, I will check that out. I have not found this issues with other games. I don't have an HD TV. (No tv actually!) nor monitor, but I do get sick being the first in line at a train crossing watching the train or sitting at a major intersection watching the cars go by. (I've learned to compensate in various ways) I do from time to time get ill sitting in the back seat as well. I have decent vision really other than astigmatisms.

Bilbo said:

@ Tim does the EC Map have all the functions as UOAM.  Can you put in the location of say 100 SOSs.

Everything I know of to date, lacks the main function UOAM has - the dual purpose chat function that works ingame and in a permanent chat box that you can come back to if you missed it. The game chat function is too easy to miss, and often the journal has gone so you can't pick up stuff, and external chat/voice software doesn't record ingame for when you are actually playing - and quite often, you just don't want to be talking when you are resting after a days work.

Whilst I have used EC, I do use Discord, I use Cartographer for the EC guys, my favourite style is UO, UOA and UOAM - nothing beats that set-up in terms of sociability and teamwork aspects - Throw in Discord on top when you need voice comms for largescale PvP, and Carto to track the EC players.

If I could take anything from the EC map, it would be the location of wandering healers. EC of course has macros - UO can have scripts...

Urge said:

I get a motion sickness type ill when looking at any 3d type fast movement game. HD TV does the same.

So the problem is not really with EC but with you being sensitive to any 3D game and even TV, is it?

I’d like to try this “Enchanted” client I often read so much about.

Mervyn said:

I’d like to try this “Enchanted” client I often read so much about.

And now of course the comment intended to start the fight and get the discussion shut down. 
If you can't be bothered to add to the the discussion please keep quiet.

The closed mouth gathers no foot.

Simple solution EC UI with the ability to pick CC/EC graphics and a map that has all the bells and whistles of UOAM/UOC and add a sort function like UOA to place items in bags.

Mervyn said:

I’ve yet to see anyone at a meet and greet ask why there are running and casting speed differences with the clients and if they intend to make them equal. Instead we get shills asking stupid questions about adding plants like snowdrops to the ant quest. 

I've yet to see you at a meet and greet asking your "important" questions.

In regards to the comment about which client should be killed, the one that allows more cheating has my vote. 

And the client that is a half ass attempt at fixing the client that allows cheating. 

Classic enhanced is ugly 

Don't knock the plant seeds from the ant quest.

Cookie said:

Bilbo said:

@ Tim does the EC Map have all the functions as UOAM.  Can you put in the location of say 100 SOSs.

Everything I know of to date, lacks the main function UOAM has - the dual purpose chat function that works ingame and in a permanent chat box that you can come back to if you missed it. The game chat function is too easy to miss, and often the journal has gone so you can't pick up stuff, and external chat/voice software doesn't record ingame for when you are actually playing - and quite often, you just don't want to be talking when you are resting after a days work.

Whilst I have used EC, I do use Discord, I use Cartographer for the EC guys, my favourite style is UO, UOA and UOAM - nothing beats that set-up in terms of sociability and teamwork aspects - Throw in Discord on top when you need voice comms for largescale PvP, and Carto to track the EC players.

If I could take anything from the EC map, it would be the location of wandering healers. EC of course has macros - UO can have scripts...

You can fix that. Make a new channel and go in there. Then the chat is not scrolling like crazy.

Not sure if pinco got a better feature tho

I use EC since I returned 2014.
Why because at that time I could run full screen and have bars
Also the macros and Pinco makes it very nice  

I don't have issues with the motion however I think 95% of the graphics are nicer in CC

I would vote for CC to go as it less features. 
The fact that the "bad" 3rd party tools are CC only is not relevant because you can script EC too in a way that you won't need those 3rd party tools. It's just not that common... 

However the main reason why I'd would like CC gone is to have One client only which needs to be supported. If that would mean a new client all together fine with that

They said in the past it's approx 50:50 usage wise.

Unfortunately this means that they need to stick with both of them and a all new one is not gonna happen anyway. 

I cringe every time I see a thread like this lol. Both clients are staying. UO couldn't take the hit if they got rid of either of them at this point. I'd play UO some other way if I had to play EC.

Mariah said:

Please keep this thread to the reasons you like the client you use without attacking the other client, nor the people who use it.

Last I heard the choice to remove, or not remove, either client is not subject to player ballot.

Both clients are here for the foreseeable future, play the one you like and enjoy the game. I used to be hard core CC but wanted the functionality of the EC, so to get myself accustomed to it I uninstalled CC and used EC exclusively. after about 30days of this i was no longer worried about the graphics differences. They’re different but I want to play the game and don’t care if that Hiryu looks like an F-15 or a plucked turkey, just how quick it kills that orc pig thing on my screen. 

FinleyGrant said:

They said in the past it's approx 50:50 usage wise.

Unfortunately this means that they need to stick with both of them and a all new one is not gonna happen anyway. 

Imagine if they did invest a ton of effort into an all new client. Well, with UO players being what they are, and UO devs being what they are, they'd have to maintain 3 clients instead of 2. I think this is the main reason the new client will never happen.

Why make a 5th client when alls they need to do is fix the EC to give us a choice of displays.  It is funny alls these people talking about clients when we have had 4 total clients and the one to survive is the CC.  3D gone, KR gone and EC still here but none of them could kill the CC and if you don't think people could make a cheat program for the EC then please send me some of the stuff you are smoking.  From what I understand is that Pinco with his UI add on can do a lot of what the illegal programs already do so what is the difference

Mariah said:

Please keep this thread to the reasons you like the client you use without attacking the other client, nor the people who use it.

Last I heard the choice to remove, or not remove, either client is not subject to player ballot.

I actually like both and play both. I do however play CC more because I like the compactness  of the graphics and I feel like I move faster. I play EC because it has a lot of features alread in it, like the scalability of maps and the entire screen, however I feel like I am moving slowly. I mostly use  EC when doing maps, sailing or placing houses. I am trying to play a little more everytime I play though.

I use the enhanced client because I'm under 40. 

DJAd said:

I use the enhanced client because I'm under 40. 

Is that a requirement? Guess I missed the memo. 🙂  As I stated before I play both as they each have their strengths. I do play CC more though, but anly because I seem to move faster In My Opinion, and I do a lot of things that require fast and precise movement. <span></span>

Bilbo said:

Xare said:

Enlighten us all how you think it's possible to detect. And for that matter, WHY of they could have done something about it, they don't? There's no logical reason that they wouldn't stop it. And before you go sprouting off some dumbass theory, I did say logical reasons. 

I guess you have never looked at the data stream from an incoming computer have you.  People are not as precise as computers when it comes to doing things esp whet they do the same thing over and over.  It is called MONEY you moron.  And here is another dumbass statement by you shut down the CC, go ahead and watch EA shut down UO do to lack of MONEY coming in because guess what that is all EA ever cared about in the first place.

Idon't know if I would agree with that. While it is true that most if not all businesses are in business to make money they would not make any if they had a produch which was below standard. There is a balance that all business try to achieve which is to make efficent use of all resources which also includes money.

Bilbo said:

Xare said:

Enlighten us all how you think it's possible to detect. And for that matter, WHY of they could have done something about it, they don't? There's no logical reason that they wouldn't stop it. And before you go sprouting off some dumbass theory, I did say logical reasons. 

I guess you have never looked at the data stream from an incoming computer have you.  People are not as precise as computers when it comes to doing things esp whet they do the same thing over and over.  It is called MONEY you moron.  And here is another dumbass statement by you shut down the CC, go ahead and watch EA shut down UO do to lack of MONEY coming in because guess what that is all EA ever cared about in the first place.

So, EA allows people to continue to cheat, ruining the economy and overall viability of the game, even though they could stop it. Because they're making money. And that they make more money by allowing it than they would by not allowing it. I'm going to forgive your choice of insults, because it makes your theory sound even more implausible. 

I'm not advocating shutting down a client, it has no impact on me. But I wanted people to be aware of the fact that the classic client allows a lot more interaction with 3rd party programs than the enhanced client. 

Several unnecessary comments have been removed. Please stay on topic and mindful of the terms of service. Thank you. 

Rorschach said:

Several unnecessary comments have been removed. Please stay on topic and mindful of the terms of service. Thank you. 

@Rorschach you missed one, I've still got a post up. Better fix that.