What color Juvenile Umbrascale Dragon is your favorite?

I got the classic red  ❤️

They are calling it Ferarri Red.

Looks like many of the Reds can claim that.

Reminds me of my insurance salesman. Oh you bought a Mustang, it's not red is it, that's gonna cost more.

Still haven't gotten one....so at this point any color would be my favorite. 

Starting to feel like the obelisk all over again.

Pawain said:

Looks like many of the Reds can claim that.

Reminds me of my insurance salesman. Oh you bought a Mustang, it's not red is it, that's gonna cost more.

Because I'm a scoundrel and couldn't pick chivalry I  went disco AI so far she's a beast

Black is my favorite color.

I second that, with black being my favorite color for these beasts. 

i like white or black

Unfortunately, I've been playing this event for over a month and already have caught more than 500 regular eggs, but I still haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color. However, I've seen some players who have caught so many mature eggs that they're selling them.

500 is not many eggs. 

Pawain said:

500 is not many eggs. 

Excuse me, game forum administrator, how many regular eggs do you actually consider "too many"? Again, I'm just a casual player; I can't possibly be like you, constantly playing and working in the game and the forum with 24 hours

Or no time to make up a decent forum name.

Pawain said:

500 is not many eggs. 

I would also like to hear what would be "too many" regular eggs... to me, 500 seems a real lot... especially considered that there is no container to hold them all (a container holding like 500 eggs but counting as 1 item) and players thus need to find storage space for whatever regular eggs they might want to store, somehow...

For starters... totally in agreement that it's past time to do something with the deco eggs... I re-subbed an account just to place a house for the deco eggs I was getting to hold over until we could turn in.... that house is now full and I'm forced to drop them on the ground because I can't do anything with them. I probably have 1k+ taking up room in an entire house with more locked down in my other homes. While I appreciate the Devs thinking (after the fact) about letting us turn them in; it should have been a fast follow and not something we need to wait for the next publish (who knows when that is... (likely next year?).

Second, I'm not a fan of the mature egg drop rate, but I don't think judging the drop rate on deco eggs is a fair assessment. But to give some idea of "is 500 eggs a lot and should be enough for a mature egg?"... I've talked to a couple people who have multiple mature eggs for sale (which don't seem to be selling btw) and they are doing 75-100 massive maps a day, plus matriarchs. They have said it's streaky and definitely "RNG as its finest"; sometimes they go a couple days without a mature egg. I think the average massive nest has 6 deco eggs so if we go on the low side of the range provided (75 nests) that would be 450 eggs from nests alone and if we sprinkle in another 50 from the matriarch that's 500 on the "low side" of what I'd consider a power gamer. Again, a reminder that they said they will sometimes go days with a drop. If you apply that, the number 500 doesn't really seem all too low and actually sounds like is starting to get into the range of a drop.

That all said, do I think that's too much RNG/grind for a mature egg with a random color; 100% yes but that seems to be what the current RNG/grind is. To put things into perspective for everyone, I've done well over 200 matriarchs (with multiple accounts) and have yet to see a single mature egg drop... meanwhile there are people that have a couple of eggs from the matriarch with the same or less rounds. It's all RNG; like it or not. 

Again , If I say this is : Random Number Generator (abbreviation : RNG) , it is better to say this is : Artificial Player Residential Area Bias Generator (abbreviation : APRABG) ,  or it could be: "Discussion Forum Comment Reward and Punishment Generator," abbreviated as "DFCAPG"

or maybe is : it's only for  professional game cheat plug-in program studio's player assistance generator . Abbreviation

Regardless of the generator, for our casual players who real pay real play players , it's only a 0% drop rate too.

I totally agree with the thought that the Deco egg turn in was something they thought of after the fact and I applaud their shift in that thought.

That said, I don't think they need to come up with a suitable mechanic when they already have one available to them (and will likely be what they use); which is the same exact thing every "turn-in" mechanic has... there is a vendor that gives you points for each egg and you can select rewards from that vendor. 

I think the biggest questions for me, aside from what are the rewards, would be if this vendor is going to be permanent or not.

I think the deco egg vendor will be the way to get nest maps after the event, so surely if the nests are permanent then the vendor will be ? 

Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!

gggghhhh0987 said:

Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators.

Pawain said:

 😂   That's Stax house.   He does Nests and Matriarch. I have sold him and given him many Nest maps.

But most of those are from him buying in chat and selling on a safe for a higher price.

You can talk to the stax bot at Luna Stable many hours a day.  So, putting your qualifications on him, yes he plays more than you so he should have more eggs.  He also spent hundreds of hours getting the Clydesdales, but like you said, he deserves them because he puts more hours in than you and I do.

Considering the price for Mature eggs that I see in Chat, those 17 Mature eggs that I see in the picture, how many tens of platinums will have cost, if they were bought ?

gggghhhh0987 said:

Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!

gggghhhh0987 said:

Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!

Mariah said:

@ keven2002 Maybe take into account that there possibly wasn't a plan to do anything with the eggs until players who don't collect 'sets' asked for it. In which case it would take a while to come up with a suitable mechanic for it and implement it?

As to the eggs. I think most would hardly class me as a 'casual' player, but the RNG hates me too. I have stolen from boxes six effigies, in many hours of hunting boxes. The number of mature eggs I have found in boxes is ZERO. My RL luck is way below my UO luck. 

Point reward systems are already in place (think clean up Britannia).  They could simply add eggs to that system and maybe add a couple new rewards.  Presumably the deco egg drops will continue after the current event ends.

Black market !!!!!!

Mariah said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!

Would you please send me a DM detailing who you believe to be 'forum administrators' who are preventing you from getting drops and secretly harassing you? 

Because I, for sure, have not secretly harassed you and do not have a box full of mature eggs. 

I'm not talking about you, before i say is: about some unknown individuals with GM-like abilities who are engaging in Quirky and bizarre harassment and disturbance behaviors against my character in the game (For example, there were a bunch of players in the event area, and some NPC monsters would only target my character and attack without attacking anyone else. Also, when farming the Dragon Nest, an NPC monster would spawn every per second. And when farming the Dragon queen, there would be 7 to 8 fireballs fired at me at the same time and from the same location in the same second, which would instantly kill me and cause me to lose over 200 HP.)—behaviors that only a GAME GM abilities could accomplish.There are also had many other quirky and unexpected situations that can't all be covered here.

Wow all of those things happen every day to all of us.

Yes mobs spawn after the guardians are dead. 

Yes mobs pick a target and attack it.

Yes we all die to the fire at Matriarch. Don't move!

If anyone is singling you out, it because of the names you make.

Pawain said:

Wow all of those things happen every day to all of us.

Yes mobs spawn after the guardians are dead. 

Yes mobs pick a target and attack it.

Yes we all die to the fire at Matriarch. Don't move!

If anyone is singling you out, it because of the names you make.

?? , Are you a GM or forum moderator in the game? Why are you always the first to reply on behalf of others in any discussion thread in the game's forum? What's wrong with my forum name? What does it mean? What's the connection between my forum name and this post? You can't change your forum name yourself; the system uses your account name to your forum username.

I replied on behalf of facts.  

I can't help you with your forum name, you are stuck with it.

Also my Account name is not my forum name.  You don't understand UO Mechanics, or Forum Mechanics.  You chose the name we see.

??

gggghhhh0987 said:

Mariah said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!

Would you please send me a DM detailing who you believe to be 'forum administrators' who are preventing you from getting drops and secretly harassing you? 

Because I, for sure, have not secretly harassed you and do not have a box full of mature eggs. 

I'm not talking about you, before i say is: about some unknown individuals with GM-like abilities who are engaging in Quirky and bizarre harassment and disturbance behaviors against my character in the game (For example, there were a bunch of players in the event area, and some NPC monsters would only target my character and attack without attacking anyone else. Also, when farming the Dragon Nest, an NPC monster would spawn every per second. And when farming the Dragon queen, there would be 7 to 8 fireballs fired at me at the same time and from the same location in the same second, which would instantly kill me and cause me to lose over 200 HP.)—behaviors that only a GAME GM abilities could accomplish.There are also had many other quirky and unexpected situations that can't all be covered here.

The level of delusion is off the charts 

Two forum trolls . Do forum troll these jobs too good , can earn a salary and play games for free.

gggghhhh0987 said:

Two forum trolls . Do forum troll these jobs too good , can earn a salary and play games for free.

So you believe someone is targeting you at the brood mother just you because of what you say here? 

It's almost 2026, post video of something genuinely unusual or STFU. This just sounds like schizo raging at the RNG.

Grimbeard said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

Two forum trolls . Do forum troll these jobs too good , can earn a salary and play games for free.

So you believe someone is targeting you at the brood mother just you because of what you say here? 

????? I competely don't understand your strange and bizarre speech at all. Your strange, incomprehensible speech really sounds like delusion.

It's time for the forum trolls to clock out; I haven't even looked at the discussion forums anymore, and I'm already currently playing other games.

This game is a complete waste of money and time. I've played it for over 10 years and spent nearly $2000 on it ,  until now only to be treated like an idiot by the game's so-called administrators or their forum trolls. No wonder more and more long-time players are leaving, no wonder fewer and fewer people are playing it. It seems like the game now only welcomes players who use cheats and those with connections to the GMs.

gggghhhh0987 said:

This game is a complete waste of money and time. I've played it for over 10 years and spent nearly $2000 on it ,  until now only to be treated like an idiot by the game's so-called administrators or their forum trolls. No wonder more and more long-time players are leaving, no wonder fewer and fewer people are playing it. It seems like the game now only welcomes players who use cheats and those with connections to the GMs.

😂 $2000 on a name like that.  😂  

I can help you play your next game for 1k.

. And when farming the Dragon queen, there would be 7 to 8 fireballs fired at me at the same time and from the same location in the same second, which would instantly kill me and cause me to lose over 200 HP.)—behaviors that only a GAME GM abilities could accomplish.There are also had many other quirky and unexpected situations that can't all be covered here.

Pawain said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

This game is a complete waste of money and time. I've played it for over 10 years and spent nearly $2000 on it ,  until now only to be treated like an idiot by the game's so-called administrators or their forum trolls. No wonder more and more long-time players are leaving, no wonder fewer and fewer people are playing it. It seems like the game now only welcomes players who use cheats and those with connections to the GMs.

😂 $2000 on a name like that.  😂  

I can help you play your next game for 1k.

I didn't say I won't play this game at all, I spent so much money on this game, I'm really a fool if not to play it at all (all the words I said before are Told the truth about the strange situations What I encountered actually in the game and purely cathartic of the current extremely completely unfair mechanics of this game and I hope the game official can improve these unreasonable Rare item appearance mechanism and unreasonable situations). it's time for your forum troll to get off work, otherwise you will miss the time to get in-game wages or out-game wages !! Furthermore, I've played all the games by myself; I've never needed anyone else to play for me. You want me employ you to play games for me with 1k? I'd rather use 1k to buy a gun and shoot you dead <<< (This is purely a joke; don't take it seriously).

Pawain said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

This game is a complete waste of money and time. I've played it for over 10 years and spent nearly $2000 on it ,  until now only to be treated like an idiot by the game's so-called administrators or their forum trolls. No wonder more and more long-time players are leaving, no wonder fewer and fewer people are playing it. It seems like the game now only welcomes players who use cheats and those with connections to the GMs.

😂 $2000 on a name like that.  😂  

I can help you play your next game for 1k.




gggghhhh0987 said:

 My this game's account name is randomly changed usernames with no meaning at all on around 10 years ago . I truly have no idea what you mean by my account name, I completely don't understand what you're saying. But i surely : you also clearly have severe incoherent delusional symptoms similar to your other game forum troll partner (Grimbeard) . That's enough for now. I won't reply to any more nonsense again from yours forum trolls who are just trying to provoke players with bad intentions.

My this game's account name is randomly changed usernames with no meaning at all on around 10 years ago .

 😂  Sure it did. 

. And when farming the Dragon queen, there would be 7 to 8 fireballs fired at me at the same time and from the same location in the same second, which would instantly kill me and cause me to lose over 200 HP.)—behaviors that only a GAME GM abilities could accomplish.There are also had many other quirky and unexpected situations that can't all be covered here.


Please tell us more..

Thinking of a turn-in for the eggs after the fact seems the case. Moving forward, hopefully the developers will continue with that function with future event's deco items that have high drop rates. 

Or just not give in when someone requests something like that.  Stick with the plan.

Eggs are this events rubble.

Pawain said:

Or just not give in when someone requests something like that.  Stick with the plan.

Eggs are this events rubble.

God help me I agree with Allen (happy belated birthday)

I got another Blue, so I traded for this one.

gggghhhh0987 said:

Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!

Honestly, he just got lucky with that Mature Egg drop — it's all RNG. I play about 1–2 hours a day, no rush, just chill. I finally got mine from the Hidden Chest, so I'm all done with the event and ready for Christmas. Don’t worry, I’m sure you’ll get one within a day too!

I'm so unlucky that I've been doing it for days and never even gotten one deco egg for myself.

I know people get a lot because they drop bags and bags on the floor.

Maybe I'm not doing enough DPS, I would guess this is the only explanation, so not much chances of getting such an egg.

Over 800 deco eggs collected, 3 effigies but no mature egg yet. I do 1-5 hrs a day since the event started a mix of hidden chests, nests and matriarch. I feel it's about time 

Mordeed said:

Over 800 deco eggs collected, 3 effigies but no mature egg yet. I do 1-5 hrs a day since the event started a mix of hidden chests, nests and matriarch. I feel it's about time 

Me too. I've farmed nearly 1000 regular eggs so far, playing for 2-4 hours every day, farming nests and the Dragon King, even using a character with 5000 luck points to farm nests. I've been playing for almost two months now, and I still haven't seen a single mature egg.

gggghhhh0987 said:

Mordeed said:

Over 800 deco eggs collected, 3 effigies but no mature egg yet. I do 1-5 hrs a day since the event started a mix of hidden chests, nests and matriarch. I feel it's about time 

Me too. I've farmed nearly 1000 regular eggs so far, playing for 2-4 hours every day, farming nests and the Dragon King, even using a character with 5000 luck points to farm nests. I've been playing for almost two months now, and I still haven't seen a single mature egg.

How many drops?  how much gold? how many refinements ? etc etc  you talk like your getting nothing sell the 1000s of drops your getting and buy egg they are down to 400 million 

Grimbeard said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

Mordeed said:

Over 800 deco eggs collected, 3 effigies but no mature egg yet. I do 1-5 hrs a day since the event started a mix of hidden chests, nests and matriarch. I feel it's about time 

Me too. I've farmed nearly 1000 regular eggs so far, playing for 2-4 hours every day, farming nests and the Dragon King, even using a character with 5000 luck points to farm nests. I've been playing for almost two months now, and I still haven't seen a single mature egg.

How many drops?  how much gold? how many refinements ? etc etc  you talk like your getting nothing sell the 1000s of drops your getting and buy egg they are down to 400 million 

?

Wangwang, don't bite me, I'm not your food.

Selling regular eggs for 400 million?? Would anyone buy them?? Your delusions are kicking in again.

gggghhhh0987 said:

Selling regular eggs for 400 million?? Would anyone buy them?? Your delusions are kicking in again.

Mature eggs. Again you act like you're working overtime for nothing with a sense of entitlement 

?? ,  We humans cannot understand Wangwang's delusional language.

Grimbeard said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

Mordeed said:

Over 800 deco eggs collected, 3 effigies but no mature egg yet. I do 1-5 hrs a day since the event started a mix of hidden chests, nests and matriarch. I feel it's about time 

Me too. I've farmed nearly 1000 regular eggs so far, playing for 2-4 hours every day, farming nests and the Dragon King, even using a character with 5000 luck points to farm nests. I've been playing for almost two months now, and I still haven't seen a single mature egg.

How many drops?  how much gold? how many refinements ? etc etc  you talk like your getting nothing sell the 1000s of drops your getting and buy egg they are down to 400 million 

regular eggs are given away for free then may not have people wanted , Moreover, selling them to 400million ?! and also, before I already searched, I found that the cheapest mature eggs are not 400 million , is 570 million

gggghhhh0987 said:

regular eggs are given away for free then may not have people wanted , Moreover, selling them to 400million ?! and also, before I already searched, I found that the cheapest mature eggs are not 400 million , is 570 million

Never buy off vs 

?? , don't understand your language.

he says not to trust vendor search, its a free market, and a free billboard with 0 regulations resembling our modern monetary system, prices are what people pick for them and rarely stabilize to a consensus because the variety of really interesting things is limited, so the offer is limited. Once those items are entrenched, nobody is interested in buying an "intermediate" they want one in this small variety of the absolute best... so this creates multi-fold problems which are impossible to manually moderate. So status quo... but there is a design way, for sure, there is always a design to solve such imbalances.

There is a HUGE problem with such a rarity system in a game... not exactly news: in real life people would get into trouble for fraud for market manipulation and the various schemes going on here (not accusing anyone or talking about any dev work here) just the inflation is unreal in real time, we see it being manipulated while we play over several weeks... say a player is really rich, and follows the news and finds out this or that item now has a new use and will rise in price, or this item is getting lower supply and most supply is owned by those really rich players *cough*.

He can walk around, purchase all those remaining items from players who priced them reasonably for normal players, and then jack the price... now when people search the price of that item on vendor search to sell their own, they see the jacked price, and it can never go down again to reasonable gameplay logical levels (fun levels, put simply), so long as that item still has a use, even if only cosmetic.

This is what is happening with the power scrolls right now.

Its all speculation that people will keep sinking them at this speed, and personally I think its very ugly when it happens in a mmorpg. We know its legal, we know it will happen, but its ugly and brings that "ugh" feeling back for many.

I've questioned people about some gifts I've received in game, and pretty much everyone buys from these really rich players...

One thing I have to say is the community, the guilds, the people playing UO are so nice and I really feel a strong heartbeat in here.  

I understand the intentions behind the rarity system, but it was clear it would eventually taint the new player/returning player experience... and if some of those players don't stay because ugh, then it just gets worse, I won't go into details because anyone can go study economy 101.

its a vicious circle, lets face it... its anarchy... and anarchy is not UO's main demographic idea of fun...

can only speak for myself I guess, but this is my general feedback about it, from my feeling and talking to a lot of new and old players.

I don't want to be a smart ass, but the hands off approach, is expected here. And I understand it, nobody wants this ugh drama, I wouldn't touch it either.

But if its not getting smaller, brushing it under the rug is not going to be a long term solution.

Design. Back to the boards, because its not only about quantity and longevity, its about quality of experience and not feeling manipulated while you play to relax and evade somewhere in your imagination.

I should have the option to play the game, and not worry about this ugh drama.

Alas... 

Mature egg prices are dropping.  The lowest I have seen so far was someone selling in chat for 500M.   But players call out, buying mature egg for 400M.  A player without a vendor would prob sell at that price.  Next week lower.

In order to see an egg or effigy in a chest, you need GM stealing?  I don't think so.  However, I have not seen an egg or an effigy in the hundreds of chests I have opened.  Also, no eggs from nests.

I have pulled two eggs from the matriarch though.

Rocko said:

In order to see an egg or effigy in a chest, you need GM stealing?  I don't think so.  However, I have not seen an egg or an effigy in the hundreds of chests I have opened.  Also, no eggs from nests.

I have pulled two eggs from the matriarch though.

You don't need any stealing to "see the egg/effigy". I don't think you need any stealing to take the eggs out either.... the effigy is where you need stealing. I don't think real stealing skill matters here...but you want 120 stealing (you even fail with that).

Congrats on the matriarch drops... been 2 months without a single matriarch egg and I've done it daily.

I've had three effigies and managed to steal first attempt with 103 real skill topped up with jewels. Not seen a big egg yet though. I'm beginning to think they are a myth 

My... EGG....

Nice congratulations Seth , how did you get it? 
I'm having a break from hidden chests and starting to work through my 100+ greater maps I've collected 

I have a castle full of thousands of eggs from the matriarch, but none of them are mature eggs. This mature golden egg came from hunting a nest with max luck on my hunter.

Just received this first mature egg from Matriarch after thousands of normal. 
So far I have only 2 eggs after countless tries. 

Seth said:

Just received this first mature egg from Matriarch after thousands of normal. 
So far I have only 2 eggs after countless tries. 

Congratulations!! But you worked so hard, farming thousands of eggs to get just two mature eggs, and you're immediately going to sell them?

gggghhhh0987 said:

Seth said:

Just received this first mature egg from Matriarch after thousands of normal. 
So far I have only 2 eggs after countless tries. 

Congratulations!! But you worked so hard, farming thousands of eggs to get just two mature eggs, and you're immediately going to sell them?

I'm with you here brother!!  

gggghhhh0987 said:

Seth said:

Just received this first mature egg from Matriarch after thousands of normal. 
So far I have only 2 eggs after countless tries. 

Congratulations!! But you worked so hard, farming thousands of eggs to get just two mature eggs, and you're immediately going to sell them?

Thanks, its to show-off, not for sale.  😂

You know you can just lock it down to show it off as well? 

noooo..... the floor is too dirty for my precious...