This is when I fail to understand Developers' thinking...

popps said:

Upon killing the Event Boss, one gets a Satchel as we all know, for participating to the Event...

The Satchel can have, aside from some crafting materials and gold, a much wanted Obelisk, a Banner, a Void Cube, Artifact Drops to turn in, or Rubble which hardly anyone wants, seeing how it is discarded all over the ground...

Now, I understand having some rewards be rarer then others but, frankly, I fail to understand why to fill up an entire reward Satchel of rubble which hardly anyone wants... I see it as a bummer after such a fight and multiple deaths, likely...

Why would the Developers not, for example, mix Rubble and Artifact drops for turn in points or, make it Scorched Rubble which seems to be a harder type of Rubble to get ?

My point being, after such a hard fight, a player should not be left pretty much "empty handed" as it may happen when one gets a Satchel full of Rubble... that is at least my point of view...

I still have yet to get an Obelisk after hundreds of satchels so IMO the drop rate is either insanely low on those or I just have the worst RNG in the world.

While I agree about the rubble, it's by far the worst reward IMO, I think it's due to the fact that it's also the most common to get outside of the satchel (from the siege / the reavers in mistas / hidden chests) so when you get a bag of 5 (especially if none are scorched) it seems like a let down. That said, I'd put the void cube as my second least favorite drop (at this point) bc you also get those from chests & the siege and I have like 35 of them now. I will say though that I've gotten enough rubble satchels to tell you that some of them do actually come with 4 rubble + 1 void cube + 1 void frag OR 5 rubble and a void frag so you do get a little bit of a mix there.

My whole beef with the drop rate for stage 3 (satchels) is that it's a very finite number per day (max 4) and you need to be playing at a certain time. Yesterday morning I woke up 30min later than usual and that was enough for me to miss the 7:30am Champ and the next 2 hours I was able to play was a wash. If stage 3 was more like Krampus or MoE where the Champ was able to be summoned every 30-60min then I'd be fine with the drop rates and getting rubble because I'd get 1 or 2 chances to get a satchel every day regardless of when I was able to play.

popps said:

Upon killing the Event Boss, one gets a Satchel as we all know, for participating to the Event...

The Satchel can have, aside from some crafting materials and gold, a much wanted Obelisk, a Banner, a Void Cube, Artifact Drops to turn in, or Rubble which hardly anyone wants, seeing how it is discarded all over the ground...

Now, I understand having some rewards be rarer then others but, frankly, I fail to understand why to fill up an entire reward Satchel of rubble which hardly anyone wants... I see it as a bummer after such a fight and multiple deaths, likely...

Why would the Developers not, for example, mix Rubble and Artifact drops for turn in points or, make it Scorched Rubble which seems to be a harder type of Rubble to get ?

My point being, after such a hard fight, a player should not be left pretty much "empty handed" as it may happen when one gets a Satchel full of Rubble... that is at least my point of view...

I got scorched rubble last night stop complaining 

Grimbeard said:

popps said:

Upon killing the Event Boss, one gets a Satchel as we all know, for participating to the Event...

The Satchel can have, aside from some crafting materials and gold, a much wanted Obelisk, a Banner, a Void Cube, Artifact Drops to turn in, or Rubble which hardly anyone wants, seeing how it is discarded all over the ground...

Now, I understand having some rewards be rarer then others but, frankly, I fail to understand why to fill up an entire reward Satchel of rubble which hardly anyone wants... I see it as a bummer after such a fight and multiple deaths, likely...

Why would the Developers not, for example, mix Rubble and Artifact drops for turn in points or, make it Scorched Rubble which seems to be a harder type of Rubble to get ?

My point being, after such a hard fight, a player should not be left pretty much "empty handed" as it may happen when one gets a Satchel full of Rubble... that is at least my point of view...

I got scorched rubble last night stop complaining 

I also got obelisk on my bard 

Same thing as Krampus rewards.  The titles get dropped on the ground.  

@popps this ends Sept. 1st.  They are not going to change anything now or in the future,  they have certain items that are weighted and the customers like getting the rare things and trying to get the rare things.  Not everyone will get the rare things.

In the past 'rubble' has been a very popular drop. How were they to know, ahead of time, that this time was going to be different?

Petra_Fyde said:

In the past 'rubble' has been a very popular drop. How were they to know, ahead of time, that this time was going to be different?

This is the answer. The market demands changed. They were unable to anticipate this. 

First I saved it all then just decaying and energized now only scorched 

Petra_Fyde said:

In the past 'rubble' has been a very popular drop. How were they to know, ahead of time, that this time was going to be different?

My problem with the rubble is that it takes up lockdown space...so even with how cool the energized or scorched walls look; I'm just too tight on lockdowns to give up 25-50 lockdowns to build a cool wall... same with void cube. 

I wished they made them like the masonry walls and became lockdown by double clicking and didn't consume a lockdown.

Void cubes are not as tall as Mysterious cubes, it takes 1 or two more void cubes to build the same height wall.  Takes 6 per wall. (have to raise each piece up one or it takes 7.)

Here is my rubble wall.  I'm going to re do it after the event, but gives you an idea.

The rubble needs 3 to 4 per wall to make one that has not fallen apart.

Petra_Fyde said:

In the past 'rubble' has been a very popular drop. How were they to know, ahead of time, that this time was going to be different?

The mistake, to my humble opinion, was to make same type and shape pieces not stackable.

Popps wants to keep everything no matter how useless it is.  So he wants every type of thing to take 1 lock down.  He is not mad that rubble is a drop, he is mad they do not go into his 1 space box that holds Rubble.

I feel that not having cleanup value will allow items to pass to someone that wants it.  It may take years until they get the item they will use because it has been sitting in someone's stash who is greedily keeping it for years hoping it will be worth something.  Find a new or returning player, it will be worth something to them.

Players need to drop stuff on the ground they don't want.  Make a rubble house next to a farm and enjoy playing a game.  Games are made for enjoyment, correct?

I made a wall to cage some Allens after this last event, someone decided to cage Alpha.

Have a little fun with the things in a game.  Fun has more value.

Don't report yourself for blocking 

I can't think of any regular that has spots marked there.  Most of us come in near the gate, so I don't make stuff over there.  I need to pick my wheelbarrow plants tomorrow and add some plants.

Another good place to make stuff is on the grass in front of the turn in NPC.

I think this is about the amount of rubble a regular player would have received from this event.

I don't have any more wall rubble that would expand this.

Pawain said:

I think this is about the amount of rubble a regular player would have received from this event.

I don't have any more wall rubble that would expand this.

This one is pretty cool but gives me anxiety just thinking how many lockdowns that would take from my already limited space lol

You can modify that into a façade or entry.

Pawain said:

Trying to summon Cthulhu again?

keven2002 said:

Pawain said:

I think this is about the amount of rubble a regular player would have received from this event.

I don't have any more wall rubble that would expand this.

This one is pretty cool but gives me anxiety just thinking how many lockdowns that would take from my already limited space lol

popps said:

keven2002 said:

Pawain said:

I think this is about the amount of rubble a regular player would have received from this event.

I don't have any more wall rubble that would expand this.

This one is pretty cool but gives me anxiety just thinking how many lockdowns that would take from my already limited space lol

That is the issue that I have with Rubble... it would be nice to use it to decorate our UO homes but then, I start thinking about how many lockdowns it would take away from my available storage space and I think... "why bother" ?

I wished, that the Developers made all this Rubble be usable without taking away any lockdown from the usable Storage space...

Time to throw away, recycle that old armor you will never use.  Your storage is a you problem.

What's more important, 10 pieces of armor no one will ever see or use, or stuff that you can see every day.  Your decision.  The imbuing ingredients are worth more than most of the armor you are keeping.
Have you not done the events and all your toons wear the best armor now?  If not, another you problem.

I recycled 4 chests of armor earlier this year, was a great feeling.

Pawain said:

popps said:

keven2002 said:

Pawain said:

I think this is about the amount of rubble a regular player would have received from this event.

I don't have any more wall rubble that would expand this.

This one is pretty cool but gives me anxiety just thinking how many lockdowns that would take from my already limited space lol

That is the issue that I have with Rubble... it would be nice to use it to decorate our UO homes but then, I start thinking about how many lockdowns it would take away from my available storage space and I think... "why bother" ?

I wished, that the Developers made all this Rubble be usable without taking away any lockdown from the usable Storage space...

Time to throw away, recycle that old armor you will never use.  Your storage is a you problem.

What's more important, 10 pieces of armor no one will ever see or use, or stuff that you can see every day.  Your decision.  The imbuing ingredients are worth more than most of the armor you are keeping.
Have you not done the events and all your toons wear the best armor now?  If not, another you problem.

I recycled 4 chests of armor earlier this year, was a great feeling.

Well, there might be many reasons for holding on to older items... sometimes one might think they could be or could become over time rares (think about the invisibility charges items of years back...or "exceptionally crafted" that became rares over time... as well as other older items no longer spawning) or, often we might want to hold on to a variety of them with various assorted stats because, eventually, a change to our character might need that piece of armor with odd assorted stats, or simply, one could get attached to them because given by a friend no longer in game or from a hunt that one still remembers...

If they want to look at deco lockdowns.  Rubble counts as a piece.  But so do grass tiles, snow tiles etc.  Players use a lot more of those to make things.  

A proposal.  Lock downs cost 1/4 point, things in chests 1 point.  If your gonna be a hoarder let it show.

Hot Rubble: 

You got a lot of good pieces congrats,  could make many little things with it or use them as fire with other colors.