QOL Request - death

When you have a bag full of insured things and die, they all drop in your main bag, it would be fabulous that if you managed to recover your corpse and the container all the stuff was in is recovered, all the stuff goes back in the bag in your pack upon corpse recovery. 

It’s bad coding again. They put back the items before the containers.  Containers should be restored first.  

Probably designed before Trammel existed. They made the order to allow looting of the things the devs decided should be kept or is lootable in fel ruleset.

Should they change the code of something that has worked for 27 years?

Pawain said:

Probably designed before Trammel existed. They made the order to allow looting of the things the devs decided should be kept or is lootable in fel ruleset.

Should they change the code of something that has worked for 27 years?

When it’s a bug yes you should. By your theory no bugs should ever be fixed. It’s a simple reorder of some code.  

Theo said:

Pawain said:

Probably designed before Trammel existed. They made the order to allow looting of the things the devs decided should be kept or is lootable in fel ruleset.

Should they change the code of something that has worked for 27 years?

When it’s a bug yes you should. By your theory no bugs should ever be fixed. It’s a simple reorder of some code.  

Worked for 27 years or broken for 27 years?

Why do you think this is a bug? 
How would you have coded it to decide what can be looted and what may decay and what we should keep?

Are you saying all the things in a bag should stay there and get looted?

Theo said:

Worked for 27 years or broken for 27 years?

To me, past the 3 months mark it's a game feature.
At this point, it's a puzzle mini game.. enjoy.

Reading paiwan; after your well detailed explanation.. is depressing.


But, this guy @ForeverFun knows what's up.

Puzzle are irksome, while addictive nonetheless.

ForeverFun said:

PA, Working As INtended.

What part is not working, how would you have coded it 27 years ago when only fel existed?

What happens when someone takes that bag your insured/blessed items were in?

Pawain said:

What happens when...

Google: What If coding.. c'mon now.



Edit: just in case, we are about to play dumb:

Pawain said:

Are you saying all the things in a bag should stay there and get looted?

Pawain said:

ForeverFun said:

PA, Working As INtended.

What part is not working, how would you have coded it 27 years ago when only fel existed?

What happens when someone takes that bag your insured/blessed items were in?

Insured and blessed items remain with dead person. Fine. But why does a cursed item get removed from a locked chest and placed on the corpse? Why does a blessed item in an uninsured bag get put into the main pack? This should not happen. If my cursed item is in a non insured container why is it removed? 

Theo said:

But why does a cursed item get removed from a locked chest and placed on the corpse? 

Exploit.

Theo said:

Insured and blessed items remain with dead person. Fine. But why does a cursed item get removed from a locked chest and placed on the corpse? Why does a blessed item in an uninsured bag get put into the main pack? This should not happen. If my cursed item is in a non insured container why is it removed? 

Try this. Get 5 paragon chests.  Die. Resurrect and claim your corpse. Why are 15 cursed items floating in your pack ...

...

A locked box should remain locked until unlocked with all loot exactly as it was before death. 

ForeverFun said:

Perhaps it could be changed to ignore treasure chest containers that "are locked AND have never been unlocked". 

Good call, but keeping an extra flag on something = server charge.. for that u'd have to ask the engineer at BS.. how damaging it would be.. maybe i'm being dumb here.. no lo se!

PS: can u drop items in a locked paragon chest?

ForeverFun said:

I've always thought that in Tram, a player corpse should be made public, instead of being outright deleted.  Go public for 2 minutes at the point it would normally be deleted, then it gets deleted.

It used to be that way, once your body turned to bones it used to be lootable. Some helpful people would loot the body and leave the contents in a bag so that if the player didn't return in time his/her stuff wasn't lost.
On they other hand, some less helpful people would lure mobs all around the body so that the newly rezed, unarmoured and weak character had no chance of reaching their body before the other players were able to loot it clean.   I met a few of that type myself in a few dungeons.

@Theo cursed items come out of any container so you can't hide them from a looter. Power scrolls are cursed.

The things that happen to items when we die, happens for the reason the devs chose.

Also carry paragon chests during events with looting mobs.   They will take the gold and cursed items before they take your petals.

Pawain said:

The things that happen to items when we die, happens for the reason the devs chose.

This is what a fanatic would say (someone not thinking by himself, almost brain wash).. like any religious fanatic.. anti-evolution. With more of you; gay marriage wouldn't be a thing.. cuz u know back then..

Jaw, Theo, Forever and Petra did made some good points/ shared on poin experience.. u come here after all your *snip* points to repeat what have been said whle insisting on one of the few meh point that didn't come fro you to drop a.. god's will, nothing we can do about it.. stop questionning or trying to fix stuff.

Or asking *snip* questions, that already been answer.. my favorite is:" How do u code an AI" (IF) before we was able to build synapse and neurone for learning AI.. this is how all the AI would be coded what if (asking questions Y/N to prompt their reactions)

*smh* You brang nothing to the table except:"PS are cursed" in 4 posts.. on this one, u remind me of the platform; Obvio!

KroDuK said:

Pawain said:

The things that happen to items when we die, happens for the reason the devs chose.

@Theo cursed items come out of any container so you can't hide them from a looter. Power scrolls are cursed.

This is what a fanatic would say (someone not thinking by himself, almost brain wash).. like any religious fanatic.. anti-evolution. 

When did you start playing?

I mean that seriously, because Pawain is right - the loot system was mostly developed before Tram, and things happen to the stuff in your backpack when you die for a reason.  If you were around long enough, you may have been PKed and looted by somebody taking advantage of the fact that stuff pops up to the main level (not all PKers dry loot, most probably only spend a few seconds looking and then move on/get out of the area).

If they revamped an old system like that, somebody is going to complain loudly.

Lokea said:

When did you start playing?

I mean that seriously, because Pawain is right - the loot system was mostly developed before Tram, and things happen to the stuff in your backpack when you die for a reason.

It's part of the obvious (obvio)
just read theo and forever, if u don't get it. (like when u speak about complain.. it was ALREADY.. hvn'T heard any complain yet)
First time I touch UO was in ~97-98 a friend of my big sister.. I hated UO.. u needed a zerg to enter in a dungeon to farm stuff.. it was made for griefers and zergy zergs. By ~2001 it was already better, I went hard on UO starting with AoS 

PS: he's saying it WAS not a bug.. when Theo said it IS a bug. Let's not play dumb. wich explain my last message about evolution and stuff.. like gay marriage.
PS2: Paiwan did not understood the well explained post.. thinking Theo was asking for the bag of insured loot to stay on the corpse with the loot inside it.. to then ask, in another post, how would you code a basic AI system? I mean bro.. he's big time wrong.. when he's not he repeat what have been said or adding REAL obvious stuff.. like really?

On a slightly related issue. How about not making the screen so dark that you can barely see your character when you die deep in a dungeon.

TimSt said:

On a slightly related issue. How about not making the screen so dark that you can barely see your character when you die deep in a dungeon.

Do you have "Dark nights" enabled? I turned mine off long ago due to it being way too dark and hard to see. I don't have much problem when I"m dead inside or outside of a dungeon