Did you know: Saying 'Hi' trumps the TOS

How many years have I been telling you these players are attended?

They don't say Hi, the GM asks a specific question.  Can range from how are you today to some other ice breaker.  Maybe a simple math question.

Bark_At_The_Moon said:

The following actions are against the Terms of Service. If caught doing any of these could result in action against your account. 24 hour bans or even account termination.

Friend in Discord paged on a dozen of the bots last night on Atl. Got a infraction for 'help queue abuse'  😂 They truly are invincible. 

username said:

Bark_At_The_Moon said:

The following actions are against the Terms of Service. If caught doing any of these could result in action against your account. 24 hour bans or even account termination.

Friend in Discord paged on a dozen of the bots last night on Atl. Got a infraction for 'help queue abuse'  😂 They truly are invincible. 

Yup, harassing attended players will do that.

@Bark_At_The_Moon Some users on these forums post in incredibly bad faith and have no motive other than to troll. Since there is no ignore function we sometimes have to do our best to simply ignore these users.

Yup, you would not want to read true statements.  And posters who disagree with you.

The Hunter and its launcher are more complex than you are giving credit for.

A quick look through the appropriate web sites and discords and you will find that the client has integrated messaging apps, so that while the bot is running, you can monitor the game and communicate with GM's via your phone, from the corner coffee shop or wherever.

You can be provided with the bot, phone integration to respond to GM's, and appropriate monetary transfer apps, via encrypted links on Viber and / or Telegram. My understanding from reading a bit about this is that you are using one-off channels for the distribution of the bot. There is a key / seed for you to be able to enter the channel, presumably so EA or other ICI departments can't just join up.

Honestly, the amount of work the builders of these clients have done, and the encryption and secretiveness they are using to distribute the software, is quite eye opening.

It also means that otherwise legitimate players can "rent - out" their accounts when not using them. Making it more difficult for Broadsword to ban an otherwise paying account.

It is really an operation the Broadsword team is up against. One that appears to have snowballed over the last year or two.

Pawain said:

How many years have I been telling you these players are attended?

They don't say Hi, the GM asks a specific question.  Can range from how are you today to some other ice breaker.  Maybe a simple math question.

Pawain, the OP is arguing that players who are automating the game with unauthorized third-party programs should be actioned, regardless of whether or not they respond to a GM question.

loop said:

Pawain said:

How many years have I been telling you these players are attended?

They don't say Hi, the GM asks a specific question.  Can range from how are you today to some other ice breaker.  Maybe a simple math question.

Pawain, the OP is arguing that players who are automating the game with unauthorized third-party programs should be actioned, regardless of whether or not they respond to a GM question.

OP should not use click bait titles that are untrue then.

 I agree that someone should not be able to log into the servers without an approved client.  

I do not understand why the game allows a non UO client log into UO.  Sounds unsecure to me.

As long as they allow it, then the GMs can only do what they are told,  leave attended paying accounts alone.

These people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate a "dead" game.

End of the day, yes, there is a level some people go to, that is above, and beyond, and obvious.

But who are these players, where do you draw the line, maybe it is not as obvious as everyone thinks.

I really do see, the cleanest of the clean players get blamed ingame.
Players see this stuff everywhere, which undermines the case.

I also see "low level" stuff, players just playing the game their way.

I also see stuff that is not obvious, what you have to remember, the best people at this, really are hiding - if you are seeing them - they almost are not the ones. 

Attended macroing does NOT mean you can go off to work and wait for your 3rd party software to play UO for you and tell you when to respond to a GM. Reponding "Hi!" or some other "ice breaker" is not attended macroing in any sense of the word via a cell phone. Its exploiting the GM paging system to continue to exploit the game via BOT software. 

I would call this click bait. Your title is misleading and just simply untrue. You have made HUGE allegations. And what is your evidence? That a player will not talk to you. Maybe they don't speak the same language as you. Maybe they don't want to talk. Who knows? There are many reasons someone might not respond to some random player. Especially in a combat area. I feel you jumped from A to Z because it fit your agenda for click bait. Think more positively

Screwball said:

I would call this click bait. Your title is misleading and just simply untrue. You have made HUGE allegations. And what is your evidence? That a player will not talk to you. Maybe they don't speak the same language as you. Maybe they don't want to talk. Who knows? There are many reasons someone might not respond to some random player. Especially in a combat area. I feel you jumped from A to Z because it fit your agenda for click bait. Think more positively

Calling him out for speaking the truth for anyone that has to deal with them bots or frame skippers full of automated actions, and refuse to cope with them, asking for evidence followed by a tons of maybe and might..

Just the fact you exist 6 posts @Screwball to defend your way of life is a proof in itself.

You're not helping your cause.. you screwball  😂

I don't even consider legal multi-clienting legitimate. No other game tolerates it, even random pirate WoW servers operating out of Eastern European basements don't let you do that shit the way UO does. It's an embarrassing concession the UO team makes to give cheaters a fig leaf because they need the money.

@Lord_Nythrax Totally agreed with that.. first time I realised that was like one of the two time i came back on uo between ~2015-2019.. both time without SA the game was mostly unplayable at this point, after 2-3months I was out.. once I launch my client that was already open by mistake.. Always had 2 accounts but u couldn't launch both on same PC, legitimatly.

As soon I realised that.. i would bring the alt account to get extra PS type of stuff.. nothing to hide anymore at this point... when before I was hidding in my house to transfer stuff like blue beetle or rez my pets on 2 PCs.


the ONLY other game i've seen that was DOFUS.. and my only complaint on DOFUS was.. this is so dumb.. they should make one client deal multiple account.. wich they did recently after 20 years.

It's a turn base MMOrpg sub to play.. I tried for the first time in ~2018.. most dungeon are 4 men players.. with a friend we would do them 2 accounts each.. some players would do 8 accounts by themselves for PvP (8v8 PvP).. but u would need to alt tab like crazy.. today u can sub and play X accounts, without alt tabbing, on a single client... on a turn base it make a lot of sense.


The auto follow thingy on UO is the nasty stuff you should looked at.. a third party bot promotion type of stuff.. this is an invitation! Specially during those pro bots events. a bot users can use a third party to run tons of client on the same PC.. for BS to make it so.. it's a tad harder to say cheater or not (as I proved with Paiwan help, assisted by that frame skipper ^^).. is.. let's bring the red carpet!   

I guess the bracelet of binding is too expensive or hard to grind for legit vet users with 2 accounts or more..

@kroduk said a bot users can use a third party to run tons of client on the same PC.. for BS to make it so.. it's a tad harder to say cheater or not (as I proved with Paiwan help ^^)

What?  You can run multiple clients on all the UO clients?  Where do you get so stupid?
I ran 2 accounts in Diablo 3 together.  

I invited you to come watch me play instead of making up bullshyt about me. You never did.

This event is too easy to run more than one toon.

I was saying to nythrax.. u don't look at the good stuff.. even if tomorow BS say no more multiple client on the same PC.. u still can own multiple laptop or cheater could still run third party to run multiple client on the same PC..




Here I was saying this is the nasty part.. BS making it harder for legit user to spot cheaters or non cheaters.. like I prove with you with my multi-bots video/ fan dancer dojo or even with that 1vs4 PvP video me against a train conductors with... depending on that cheater it was NOT his own account (cuz i recorded all of these train grinding on their own, like good lil bots i would use to help me fight their own red) but guildmates on the auto follow AFK helping him to PvP while getting a few free artifacts while sleeping (unattended BS train) or one dude with a bots train (his own account with or without automation)

See here.. I presented you 3 options.. one is legit one dude with his own multiple accounts doing the train with 0 automation.. now prove me this is not HIS account.. wich I did on this very forum.. that guy (the same person that admitted being one of the red archers i fought with/ their guildmate) ADMITTED it was NOT his own account.. but unattended guildmate..

Nythrax complain about multiple LEGIT client.. I'm saying u should complaint about the LEGIT unattended playing.


PS: and you are the one calling me stupid?  😂
Edit: put your alts on the follow train using the CC.. those are free necro boss artifacts and extra luck.. even if you're too strong for them mobs, you stupid.


@paiwan i've just seen your diablo edit.. personally I hated blizzard north.. couldn't play Starcraft, D1 nor the first few years of D2 with the lil bro.. even with 2 PC we had IP block cuz same internet.
I had priority on SC him on Diablo.. If he wanna play SC when i play.. he had to pick another region than US-East to play online on the same internet.. If u wonder why there was a Lan option on BNET...

Edit2: and BTW diablo 3 ain't no MMO u stupid  😂

No, its not.  What you say is false.  It takes 1 second to tell if someone is following or multi boxing.

When you use a multibox program, all commands go to all the clients at the same time. They cast the same macros and move at the same time.

When you follow someone running, your toon falls behind them and if they run long enough, the follower will be out of range.  Following uses the same AI as a pet following you.

Pawain said:

No, its not.  What you say is false.  It takes 1 second to tell if someone is following or multi boxing.

When you use a multibox program, all commands go to all the clients at the same time.

I stopped here.. u clearly can't tell why i'm using the term Multi-bot and not Multi-box.. have a good one!

Here did some digging, remember that: 



They all attack and loot clearly 9 bots on the chou chou train.. I was saying u were saying it's legit cuz it's not MUTLIBOX when it's MULTI-BOTS.. a tad harder for some to tell it ain't legit.. it could totally be 10 friends playing together, right?.. or one dude using 10 accounts; are they all doing infite AI?
He's alt tabbing on everyone of them after each kills to loot.. cuz u know u cannot auto loot on CC legit nor follow legit on EC.. They were doing that 24/7 for 8 straight days.. u can find them in Ararat a lot.

so yeah, a tad harder for... I'll stay polite even if ^^

Lord_Nythrax said:

I don't even consider legal multi-clienting legitimate. No other game tolerates it, even random pirate WoW servers operating out of Eastern European basements don't let you do that shit the way UO does. It's an embarrassing concession the UO team makes to give cheaters a fig leaf because they need the money.

Eve Online. If you are not flying 3+ ships at the same time, are you even playing? But it's you controlling them all. 3+ client windows.

Think just naming that one mega successful game destroys your point.
Many many other games are played in this style, I'm not going to list them all.

In my opinion, you guys need to stop lying, check your facts first. Stop the dramatics.

Scripting is also allowed in Roblox - the 3rd most popular MMO out there, both my boys, and all kids have grown up playing this, this is how the kids play these days. They go to school, they leave scripts running in Roblox to pick up rewards when they get back from school. It gives them something to look forward to, and lets them focus on schoolwork better, knowing they are not missing out, to pensioners, or jobless people who can sit there all day long playing.


AI - Is scripting allowed in Roblox - the 3rd most popular MMO with 125m players?
Yes, scripting is definitely allowed in Roblox and Roblox scripts can do a wide variety of creative things. Almost all games in Roblox use scripts to make them more dynamic and fun. Roblox scripting is done in the Roblox Studio editor and uses a programming language called “Lua”.

Oh - .lua is the language Enhanced Client uses right...?

Dishonest again.. it's almost an auto battler.. excel sheet lovers.. even DOFUS a turn base is pumping more blood (u can play on Hardcore-1 life)

Name one sandbox theme park where u can be a legit one man army.. He's about to drop everquest and runescape xD (TOS legit that is not resident sleeper auto battler nor turn base)

Cookie said:

Many many other games are played in this style, I'm not going to list them all.

Start with 3 MMOrpg, that ain't auto battler resident sleeper nor turn base.. thanks.
*whisper* gl naming one.


Edit: your roblox edit is... the studio editor is to MAKE GAMES.. those are used in their used map setting mini games.

 😂 

KroDuK said:

Dishonest again.. it's almost an auto battler.. excel sheet lovers.. even DOFUS a turn base is pumping more blood (u can play on Hardcore-1 life)

Name one sandbox theme park where u can be a legit one man army.. He's about to drop everquest and runescape xD (TOS legit that is not resident sleeper auto battler nor turn base)

Cookie said:

Many many other games are played in this style, I'm not going to list them all.

Start with 3 MMOrpg, that ain't auto battler resident sleeper nor turn base.. thanks.
*whisper* gl naming one.

You're a liar, I'm not discussing anything with you.
I'm telling you, sit down and listen, cause you are dumb as, and so are all your opinions.

Cookie said:

You're a liar, I'm not discussing anything with you.
I'm telling you, sit down and listen, cause you are dumb as, and so are all your opinions.

You are impossible.. I played roblox with my niece..

the platform hosts user-created games of multiple genres coded in the programming language Lua.


In other word.. u can make your own mini game and make money on roblox.. the good stuff is free tho.. but yeah.. it's a sandbox.. if u played starcraft.. it's like used map setting (other players create mini game USING THE MAP EDITOR and it's tools).. on roblox it's the studio editor.. you moron.
It's like if u had an EM program/power to generate stuff like spawn.

ps: do not use AI to do your research.. this stuff gonna happen, a lot!

KroDuK said:

Cookie said:

You're a liar, I'm not discussing anything with you.
I'm telling you, sit down and listen, cause you are dumb as, and so are all your opinions.

You are impossible.. I played roblox with my niece..

the platform hosts user-created games of multiple genres coded in the programming language Lua.


In other word.. u can make your own mini game and make money on roblox.. the good stuff is free tho.. but yeah.. it's a sandbox.. if u played starcraft.. it's like used map setting (other players create mini game USING THE MAP EDITOR).. on roblox it's the studio editor.. you moron.

My boys have played Roblox from day 1, they are making mini games.
This is where the kids are, this is how it's being played, 125m players, 3rd ranked game, this is how they play.

Scripts are the future, adapt.
User created map/game/event/dungeon in UO?
Easy enough, look forwards, not backwards, think of the possibilities.
What do you think some of the freeshards are doing, why are they being so successful?
They are adding in new content.
I'm not even asking for new content, though it would be nice, I just want more playability.

kk, let's not change the subject here.. it was a gotcha moment against Nythrax.. u said u had a very long list can'T name them all.. I want 3 MMOrpg where u can launch multiple clients.. like your gotcha moment..

Let's speak about the future of UO à la Roblox later.. about creating our own dungeons and maps.. u weirdo.

PS: on a serious note.. 2 similar sandbox are being work on at moment.. one from original diablo dev and the other is well known around here: Raph Koster. "terra forming" and stuff à la Everquest:next.. EQ;next hit a wall.. too ambitious sony sold daybreak and shut down all it's dev to publish stuff.. so yeah..

Edit: i'm waiting..

KroDuK said:

kk, let's not change the subject here.. it was a gotcha moment against Nythrax.. u said u had a very long list can'T name them all.. I want 3 MMOrpg where u can launch multiple clients.. like your gotcha moment..

Let's speak about the future of UO later.. about creating our own dungeons and maps.. u weirdo.

PS: on a serious note.. 2 similar sandbox are being work on at moment.. one from original diablo dev and the other is well known around here: Raph Koster. "terra forming" and stuff à la Everquest:next.. EQ;next hit a wall.. too ambitious sony sold daybreak and shut down all it's dev to publish stuff.. so yeah..

Let's change the subject, because that is all you ever do.
You lie, you twist everything, you talk bollocks, lets talk about your non stop lies and rubbish instead, far more interesting.

On a more serious note, I know the names, you go and find out yourself, because you will just twist it and talk shit anyway, so I'll let you do the work, then talk shit about your own work like you always do.

I listed Eve Online, one of the biggest games in history, in response to this really cutting and negative remark. No other game he said... and you agreed with him.
Using your logic, that makes you just as stupid as him?
It also makes you a cheat, and a liar - that is how your brain connects the dots?

Lord_Nythrax said:

I don't even consider legal multi-clienting legitimate. No other game tolerates it, even random pirate WoW servers operating out of Eastern European basements don't let you do that shit the way UO does. It's an embarrassing concession the UO team makes to give cheaters a fig leaf because they need the money.

You are starting to look pretty bad now, keep it up, keep digging your own grave.
As you are a cheat, and a liar - that also makes you a bot user, bot lover?
Bot, heretic, cheat, heresy, frame skipper.

Cookie said:

Let's change the subject, because that is all you ever do.
You lie, you twist everything, you talk bollocks, lets talk about your non stop lies and rubbish instead, far more interesting.

On a more serious note, I know the names, you go and find out yourself, because you will just twist it and talk shit anyway, so I'll let you do the work, then talk shit about your own work like you always do.

I listed Eve Online, one of the biggest games in history, in response to this really cutting and negative remark. No other game he said... and you agreed with him.
Using your logic, that makes you just as stupid as him?
It also makes you a cheat, and a liar - that is how your brain connects the dots?

Ok I'll start the 4th coming.. but does a web browser game with.. ah nvm UO is now a web broswer game.. so it count!

Ok your turn..

KroDuK said:

 I want 3 MMOrpg where u can launch multiple clients.. 

MMO's.
World of Warcraft.
Final Fantasy XIV
Runescape
Eve Online

Other types of games;
Magic: the Gathering Arena - Card Trading games.
Call of Duty:Warzone - FPS games.

Ipad games;
Infinite Galaxy.
Clash of Clans
etc etc etc. Most of them.

The point is, it is very common across all gaming, even if it is against TOS, and in many it is not.
Most games see it as a bonus in the numbers of accounts/players, and a bonus in revenue.
So again, Nythax's point is just completely incorrect.
It's an embarrassing concession the UO team makes to give cheaters a fig leaf because they need the money.
Every single other game out there, also welcomes it! It helps their stats out.

Yours I believe. 🙂

Since everyone here cheats according to posters, what cheat can I use to read all these items and combine them to make 70 resists 40 LMC 100%LRC suits? I like to make them with the jewel slots not used.  I unraveled 4 other chests full from a different house to make space earlier.  I should just unravel these I think.

Pawain said:

Since everyone here cheats according to posters, what cheat can I use to read all these items and combine them to make 70 resists 100%LRC suits?  I unraveled 4 other chests full from a different house to make space earlier.  I should just unravel these I think.

It's a really good question tbh.
I never found the answer. 🙂
Some people love pulling all that info together, in their head, on spreadsheets, using ingame mannequins etc.
(But I never found the software that would suck up all the stats, then put it into suit styles I wanted).
I hated the entire concept of that style of armour, it was way too complicated for me, it was another factor that made the game unplayable for me - especially when jewels were Antique on top of that.
For 10 years, I just let my characters be naked, than use that equipment.

For me, it is one of the reasons for the popularity for the new dynamic event items - they have standardised properties, which makes suits easier to build for your characters.
Just 1 aspect of the game, should not suck up so much of your time, in my opinion.

Personally - I would unravel it all.

Yes, I used tons of spreadsheets. This is one of my Mage ones.

Pawain said:

Since everyone here cheats according to posters, what cheat can I use to read all these items and combine them to make 70 resists 40 LMC 100%LRC suits? I like to make them with the jewel slots not used.  I unraveled 4 other chests full from a different house to make space earlier.  I should just unravel these I think.

Cookie said:

Pawain said:

Since everyone here cheats according to posters, what cheat can I use to read all these items and combine them to make 70 resists 100%LRC suits?  I unraveled 4 other chests full from a different house to make space earlier.  I should just unravel these I think.

It's a really good question tbh.
I never found the answer. 🙂
Some people love pulling all that info together, in their head, on spreadsheets, using ingame mannequins etc.
(But I never found the software that would suck up all the stats, then put it into suit styles I wanted).
I hated the entire concept of that style of armour, it was way too complicated for me, it was another factor that made the game unplayable for me - especially when jewels were Antique on top of that.
For 10 years, I just let my characters be naked, than use that equipment.

For me, it is one of the reasons for the popularity for the new dynamic event items - they have standardised properties, which makes suits easier to build for your characters.
Just 1 aspect of the game, should not suck up so much of your time, in my opinion.

Personally - I would unravel it all.

Yes, I used tons of spreadsheets. This is one of my Mage ones.

Cookie said:

a bunch of stuff

popps said:

Out of curiosity, what are the arrows going up and down on the very last column to the right for ?

It's the difference between the total and his goal (cap/required)
UP; he need more.. down; he busted the cap.

popps said:

Also, what is that 41 on the 4th line indicating, in the last but one column between the Total one and the Cap/Required ?

41 is the total of extra HP he received from his items. You should be asking what are those green arrow top left corner.. Those are small thing u can expand on for more detail on what's up cuz the total doesn't match.. something else if affecting it or he's auto tracking his toon HP in real time type of stuff extracting data from his totally legit client.


@Lord_Nythrax Let him keep talking please.. he's actually our biggest allies as of today. You should really read what he's saying.. this is golden 😂

PS: if they gave up, on my watch, they gonna have to address their TOS.. do a grey zone, instead of helping them with things like auto follow CC or their inaction or PRO moderation we've seen.. something like: We accept the use of Add-On but we won't validate every single one of them (what a game like tESO did)

Then they added: automation is ILLEGAL.. use any add-on u want but no automation or get ban..this was a HUGE grey zone, since they not validate any add-on, multiple automation were used if u get caught u play pretend and hide it better.. to the point we had this type of third party (u could do anything u'd like.. like bob's hack on diablo one.. the future Cookie wants, u could put yourself 999999/infinite point in every stats like regen)

Look at ~4m30s, time stamp ain'T working



We had two guy streaming themselves to expose ZOS inaction with fengrush help.. the very next week ZOS were perma bannning a tons of accounts and I kept pushing.. exposing the french team that was covering for them, all my report was going in the trash bin.. Boid Beasley (head of support at Bethesda) after I went in arbitrary disputing my account (I asked for a refund cuz the TOS is a double edge sword) he gave me the refund (even the price of the box)
Wich I refused.. I just wanted to exposed the corruption at the highest level possible, forcing bethesda (the boss of ZOS) hand.. ~3 weeks later the entire french team got fired in silent except one dude.. the dude that helped me expose the corruption.. I could fill u up on more detail but the juicy stuff is NDA cuz it's INSANE.. and yet it's nothing compared to what the godfather is doing around here.

I could also show u what I did on Albion Online.. got ban 7 days for promoting CHEATS when I was reporting a couple users in game.. ~2 years later find out one the dude I was reporting was a GM.. the same that banned me.. he got busted (he legit EXPOSED HIMSELF) streaming he was finding real juicy kills and always the best rarer resources.. when more players reported his human characters.. and a streamer (albionpewpew) got the hold of it.. SBI had to investigate.. they fired him and make him apologize publicly for abusing his GM powers and cheating.

https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/186874-Mod-Gm-YacineBurtal-BANNED-cheated-WITH-his-guild-to-get-mammoth-calfs-are-you-g/


You guys are just not trying hard enough and doing the good stuff.. aim for the head.
SBI legit make a "mod" a GM.. when I was reporting him for cheating before he ban me 7 days to promote cheats.. when i was crying cuz of them.. they had to do something big like that.. public humiliation to not risk the biscuit on the damages.

Everytime I was finding a good rare resource I always had the same weirdo coming to fight me for it.. I was like no way on earth these dude ain't map hacking.. I was following them/recording.. they were running from rare resource to another rare resources the weirdest way possible.. find out they were using a GM power program to cheat and share the info with others on discord/their guildmates and friends.. took 2 years but he got exposed and humiliated.. cuz he got SOOO confident.. he legit had to expose himself before SBI act upon him.. streaming his juicy kills. was very sus finding people like that.. albionpewpew try to do like him.. he find one single dude in a 6 hours stream (he was top tier PvPers unlike yacine a "noob") then yacine got mass reported and SBI HAD to move and they did.

Here that was me in the cht calling him out before he got ban (1 week before) and pewpew was like your a cynical.. let me prove you he ain'T cheating.. find out... ^^
https://clips.twitch.tv/TriangularBombasticGooseKeyboardCat-UeGXbctRHXUbwqAI
(u can read the chat on bottom of his screen.. everyone defend him with the streamer cuz it's GM i'm accusing of cheating.. i was alone.. and yet 1 week later..)

Lord_Nythrax said:

Cookie said:

a bunch of stuff

Look man, what else is it that you want? You guys won. The two actual developers this nearly thirty-year old game has left are powerless to keep up with that other client and too chickenshit to ban people for using it, so now everyone gets to cheat as much as they feel like. So go on and cheat in peace, enjoy yourself, no one is going to stop you. It's like you're looking for some sort of respect or something, when really you're just some out of touch incompetent old man using scripts to help you play a low-skill MMO from the nineties on a dead server.

What do I want?
More politeness from you.
I find your tone offensive to everyone.
I even agree with a ton of stuff you say, but I'm not into insulting the Devs, or anyone, in the way you do.
Until you do, then I will go for you, I automatically attack bullies, always been in my nature.
I'm not even trying to win anything - you should see me when I am. 🙂

popps said:

Cookie said:

Pawain said:

Since everyone here cheats according to posters, what cheat can I use to read all these items and combine them to make 70 resists 100%LRC suits?  I unraveled 4 other chests full from a different house to make space earlier.  I should just unravel these I think.

It's a really good question tbh.
I never found the answer. 🙂
Some people love pulling all that info together, in their head, on spreadsheets, using ingame mannequins etc.
(But I never found the software that would suck up all the stats, then put it into suit styles I wanted).
I hated the entire concept of that style of armour, it was way too complicated for me, it was another factor that made the game unplayable for me - especially when jewels were Antique on top of that.
For 10 years, I just let my characters be naked, than use that equipment.

For me, it is one of the reasons for the popularity for the new dynamic event items - they have standardised properties, which makes suits easier to build for your characters.
Just 1 aspect of the game, should not suck up so much of your time, in my opinion.

Personally - I would unravel it all.

Yes, I used tons of spreadsheets. This is one of my Mage ones.

@ Cookie

Out of curiosity, what are the arrows going up and down on the very last column to the right for ?

Also, what is that 41 on the 4th line indicating, in the last but one column between the Total one and the Cap/Required ?

Yep, the Up arrows, are where I would increase certain properties if I could, as the suit has fallen short, and the down arrows are where I've over-capped, and they are the areas I could take down, to achieve raising the areas I'm short in.

The beauty of this suit, is it is pretty much fully repairable, and therefore even blessable - it is the first decent full artifact suit I've made, made possible by quite a few of the latest items.

I've had fully repairable suits before, but not as good as this one. What this will allow me to do, is pvm, and pvp fully on this suit. I don't think the Devs or anyone, has ever realised just how much repairs pvp characters take to suits, it has always been a bugbear of mine. It's always put me off Duelling, knowing my antique jewels are burning down like mad and will wreck my suit.
Now, I can start duelling, and feel good about it, when I get time.

Yes, the 41, is where the Items gave me way more HP increase than the 25 Cap I'm allowed, so the 41 was tracking HP against the 25 Cap, and the cell next to it, adjusted the formula to make sure it showed the correct HP on the character.

Regarding a storage container for armour, and weapons, I'm with you, and the Jewels as well - I've always felt the Jewels container was pushed out half complete.

KroDuK said:

popps said:

Out of curiosity, what are the arrows going up and down on the very last column to the right for ?

It's the difference between the total and his goal (cap/required)
UP; he need more.. down; he busted the cap.

popps said:

Also, what is that 41 on the 4th line indicating, in the last but one column between the Total one and the Cap/Required ?

41 is the total of extra HP he received from his items. You should be asking what are those green arrow top left corner.. Those are small thing u can expand on for more detail on what's up cuz the total doesn't match.. something else if affecting it or he's auto tracking his toon HP in real time type of stuff extracting data from his totally legit client.


@ Lord_Nythrax Let him keep talking please.. he's actually our biggest allies as of today. You should really read what he's saying.. this is golden 😂

PS: if they gave up, on my watch, they gonna have to address their TOS.. do a grey zone, instead of helping them with things like auto follow CC or their inaction or PRO moderation we've seen.. something like: We accept the use of Add-On but we won't validate every single one of them (what a game like tESO did)

Then they added: automation is ILLEGAL.. use any add-on u want but no automation or get ban..this was a HUGE grey zone, since they not validate any add-on, multiple automation were used if u get caught u play pretend and hide it better.. to the point we had this type of third party (u could do anything u'd like.. like bob's hack on diablo one.. the future Cookie wants, u could put yourself 999999/infinite point in every stats like regen)

Look at ~4m30s, time stamp ain'T working



We had two guy streaming themselves to expose ZOS inaction with fengrush help.. the very next week ZOS were perma bannning a tons of accounts and I kept pushing.. exposing the french team that was covering for them, all my report was going in the trash bin.. Boid Beasley (head of support at Bethesda) after I went in arbitrary disputing my account (I asked for a refund cuz the TOS is a double edge sword) he gave me the refund (even the price of the box)
Wich I refused.. I just wanted to exposed the corruption at the highest level possible, forcing bethesda (the boss of ZOS) hand.. ~3 weeks later the entire french team got fired in silent except one dude.. the dude that helped me expose the corruption.. I could fill u up on more detail but the juicy stuff is NDA cuz it's INSANE.. and yet it's nothing compared to what the godfather is doing around here.

I could also show u what I did on Albion Online.. got ban 7 days for promoting CHEATS when I was reporting a couple users in game.. ~2 years later find out one the dude I was reporting was a GM.. the same that banned me.. he got busted (he legit EXPOSED HIMSELF) streaming he was finding real juicy kills and always the best rarer resources.. when more players reported his human characters.. and a streamer (albionpewpew) got the hold of it.. SBI had to investigate.. they fired him and make him apologize publicly for abusing his GM powers and cheating.

https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/186874-Mod-Gm-YacineBurtal-BANNED-cheated-WITH-his-guild-to-get-mammoth-calfs-are-you-g/


You guys are just not trying hard enough and doing the good stuff.. aim for the head.
SBI legit make a "mod" a GM.. when I was reporting him for cheating before he ban me 7 days to promote cheats.. when i was crying cuz of them.. they had to do something big like that.. public humiliation to not risk the biscuit on the damages.

Everytime I was finding a good rare resource I always had the same weirdo coming to fight me for it.. I was like no way on earth these dude ain't map hacking.. I was following them/recording.. they were running from rare resource to another rare resources the weirdest way possible.. find out they were using a GM power program to cheat and share the info with others on discord/their guildmates and friends.. took 2 years but he got exposed and humiliated.. cuz he got SOOO confident.. he legit had to expose himself before SBI act upon him.. streaming his juicy kills. was very sus finding people like that.. albionpewpew try to do like him.. he find one single dude in a 6 hours stream (he was top tier PvPers unlike yacine a "noob") then yacine got mass reported and SBI HAD to move and they did.

Here that was me in the cht calling him out before he got ban (1 week before) and pewpew was like your a cynical.. let me prove you he ain'T cheating.. find out... ^^
https://clips.twitch.tv/TriangularBombasticGooseKeyboardCat-UeGXbctRHXUbwqAI
(u can read the chat on bottom of his screen.. everyone defend him with the streamer cuz it's GM i'm accusing of cheating.. i was alone.. and yet 1 week later..)

Of course, the more you talk, the more you expose yourself. 🙂

Some sort of Left Wing gamer Activist delusion.

Awesome, now I've seen everything. 🙂

Like I keep saying, how about you play the game, and relax 🙂

Although interestingly, I am now tracking you, I know where you are ingame right now. 😂
(completely legitimate - you can't keep your mouth shut ingame either)

The question is, do I build a character and come and kill you 🙂

Cookie said:

Although interestingly, I am now tracking you, I know where you are ingame right now. 😂
(completely legitimate - you can't keep your mouth shut ingame either)

The question is, do I build a character and come and kill you 🙂

I've log twice since december.. u'd ask for peace like the same frame skipper I was dealing with on Legends.. the humiliation and annoyment they got serve.. they needed to do the chou chou trains at the end instead of covering the entire town to protect themselves... no more of their red had the will to deal with me.. I was on the attack..

Bring at least 4 like you.. 5 is the limit of superman I can toy with.


But, what is the point.. I feel like a dumb dumb not cheating under BS management. Something need to change cuz i'm no illegal third party user.. i'd prefer a ban world cuz I ain't gonna sub 10 accounts to have my lil army like a lazy low skill.. i'll move on if this is what they pick.. but what is actually happening cannot be happening.. they have rules as we do.. they can keep playing pretend but i'm a try hard.

At the end, you trying to bite something u couldn't chew, so keep yapping and helping Cookie.

KroDuK said:

I've log twice since december.. u'd ask for peace like the same frame skipper I was dealing with on Legends.. the humiliation and annoyment they got serve.. 

You know an awful lot about what is going on ingame, considering you only logged in twice since December.

Same as some of the other moaners.

I've been logged in every single day, doing tons of stuff.

Work rate, effort, discipline, fun, is how you achieve stuff, not booing from the side-lines.

Create a character on Europa, I need more wannabee pvpers to fight against. 🙂

Pawain said:

No, its not.  What you say is false.  It takes 1 second to tell if someone is following or multi boxing.

When you use a multibox program, all commands go to all the clients at the same time. They cast the same macros and move at the same time.

When you follow someone running, your toon falls behind them and if they run long enough, the follower will be out of range.  Following uses the same AI as a pet following you.

Cookie said:

Just 1 aspect of the game, should not suck up so much of your time, in my opinion.

Agreed for the transfer of items being a thing... unlike the wardrobe, imo.

Pretty sure the EC has some type of macro possible for the (un)loading/transfer stuff.. just a take all could be dope on CC.

As for the wardrobe u just need to do better storage or less automatization? ^^
But yeah could be dope to have a storage option on the house like a vendor search.. I would still do my own storage and use that thing once a month as a lost and found.


The first one just make the game better (take all)
The second just make the game easier while losing an aspect of it's charm..
The latter is something bots lover would NEED.. too much loot to store/organize and imo the game would lose some of it's charm.. the same charm as using an inventory without an ugly grid.

keven2002 said:

Cookie said:

Just 1 aspect of the game, should not suck up so much of your time, in my opinion.

What I think should not suck up so much time from the game is the transferring / stacking of things, like when we get the bag drops of gems from the MoE or hidden chests etc. Each bag has 9 stacks of gems which is 9 separate click/drag into a different container. I'm not sure if anyone would say they enjoy click/dragging 9 times per bag (I've started to just trash/leave the bags on the ground). That's a complete waste of time and that would hands down be something that I think using a 3rd party would be useful fore (I'm assuming there is some sort of item combiner feature).

To help you out here.
I've had exactly this issue, and solved it.
My rogue, or treasure hunter could be coming in with lots of bags of 9 gems.

Organiser Agent in UOAssist.
I'm sure Enhanced Client has it.
Or I'm using an equivalent Organiser Agent to the UOA one. {Some will say Cheat, Heretic, I will say Quality of Life - and point out it existed in UOA so what I am doing, is not new or unethical}.
But Yes - an Organiser Agent, is something that should be built into the client by now.

keven2002 said:

Pawain said:

No, its not.  What you say is false.  It takes 1 second to tell if someone is following or multi boxing.

When you use a multibox program, all commands go to all the clients at the same time. They cast the same macros and move at the same time.

When you follow someone running, your toon falls behind them and if they run long enough, the follower will be out of range.  Following uses the same AI as a pet following you.

Interesting... It looks like someone has finally come to terms with the fact that people multibox. It wasn't too long ago that you were saying that the alleged multboxers were just "some people that are better at UO than you".... Now it only takes 1 second to tell if someone is multiboxing.

For the record, I agree with what you said here and this is what many people have been saying for years. I'm glad you also can finally see that some players are multiboxing rather than simply using autofollow and are "better at UO".

Welcome.

To keep this on topic... the loop hole here is exactly what the OP said, as long as you aren't unattended and can say "Hi" or answer a few questions from a GM there won't be any action against you.

You don't read well.  I have said attended players with a paid account will not be actioned.  Even tho multiboxing is not legal, I'm sure we would have 0 post count posters coming here to complain if they did take out a multiboxer.

Also the GM asks a question.  If Hi is not the correct answer to the question, that player will be taken to the jail for further questions.

@popps I gave this example as a reason for us not to collect junk.  We don't need the hoarder expansion.

I made 3 suits so far.  All 70s resist, 100LRC, 40LMC. I put them on a vendor.
Jewel slots not used..
They also match. Bone, leather, plate. And I dyed them a nice color. 

Cookie said:

What do I want?
More politeness from you.

Pawain said:

Also the GM asks a question.  If Hi is not the correct answer to the question, that player will be taken to the jail for further questions.

Trust him he's speaking by experience in that matters.  😂

Lord_Nythrax said:

Cookie said:

What do I want?
More politeness from you.

Ha, you're going to remain disappointed.

Cookie said:
Until you do, then I will go for you, I automatically attack bullies, always been in my nature.

Oh, is that what you call it when you brag about stupid things like how good your grandkids are at Fortnite? Or how you killed some peerless that would be considered insultingly simple dogshit in any game less than a quarter-century old? You seem really proud of yourself for some nobody dead-shard scripter and I'm not sure why.

You were saying how only old people play UO, and how no-one who plays UO has any idea about modern games. In your usual impolite manner.

Not only was I bragging, I was mainly telling you how wrong you were, as I know from experience, I have a few younger guys in my guild for starters, who very much know about modern day games.

He was saying you were old & cheating and you hvn't experienced much outside UO.. wich make most of your takes NUL.. you're too deep in.. the only solution for someone like you is the ban hammer to make UO shine again.. a Ban world server for people that can't macro a trapped box and need it to be automated.

You have no right to speak on behalf of imaginary people in your head.. if they exist and play UO.. tell them to come here.. show us how good u are at RP.. bring back playboy1  😂

Be a decent non cheating human being that ain't ruining the game for A LOT of people (look the state of the game) or get ban.. cuz the dev team prove they can't deliver a MAIN content B-event in those term.

KroDuK said:

He was saying you were old & cheating and you hvn't experienced much outside UO.. wich make most of your takes NUL.. you're too deep in.. the only solution for someone like you is the ban hammer to make UO shine again..

You have no right to speak on behalf of imaginary people in your head.. if they exist and play UO.. tell them to come here.. show us how good u arr at RP.. bring back playboy1  😂

Go back to his quote, do your research like I know you love doing, pull together your portfolio of evidence, and he was in fact criticizing the entire playerbase of UO.
You included. I was in fact defending you on that one, I did not feel you were old and geriatric. 🙂

Cookie said:

Go back to his quote, 

no 

God, this is easy being you  😂

Cookie said:

I was in fact defending you on that one, I did not feel you were old and geriatric. 🙂

Take my bola balls off your mouth.. thanks.

KroDuK said:

Cookie said:

Go back to his quote, 

no 
God, this is easy being you  😂

It is easy being me yes.

Because you are so wrong all the time, I don't even have to try. 🙂

You always seem so eager to collect a portfolio of evidence, how come not now, when you know you are wrong ? 🙂

Cookie said:

You're a liar, I'm not discussing anything with you.
I'm telling you, sit down and listen, cause you are dumb as, and so are all your opinions.

Cookie said:

Let's change the subject, because that is all you ever do.
You lie, you twist everything, you talk bollocks, lets talk about your non stop lies and rubbish instead, far more interesting.

It also makes you a cheat, and a liar - that is how your brain connects the dots?
You are starting to look pretty bad now, keep it up, keep digging your own grave.
As you are a cheat, and a liar - that also makes you a bot user, bot lover?
Bot, heretic, cheat, heresy, frame skipper.

KroDuK said:

Cookie said:

You're a liar, I'm not discussing anything with you.
I'm telling you, sit down and listen, cause you are dumb as, and so are all your opinions.

Cookie said:

Let's change the subject, because that is all you ever do.
You lie, you twist everything, you talk bollocks, lets talk about your non stop lies and rubbish instead, far more interesting.

It also makes you a cheat, and a liar - that is how your brain connects the dots?
You are starting to look pretty bad now, keep it up, keep digging your own grave.
As you are a cheat, and a liar - that also makes you a bot user, bot lover?
Bot, heretic, cheat, heresy, frame skipper.

You are learning. 🙂

Do not talk with a mouthfull

Cookie said:
I was in fact defending you on that one, I did not feel you were old and geriatric. 🙂

  

PS: if u can't see the WTF here.. you are even deeper than I thought u were.

Nythrax is an angel compared to you; he's a top tier citizen.. we need more nythrax in game and less of you.

KroDuK said:

Do not talk with a mouthfull

Cookie said:
I was in fact defending you on that one, I did not feel you were old and geriatric. 🙂

  

PS: if u can't see the WTF here.. you are even deeper than I thought u were.

Nythrax is an angel compared to you.. we need more nythrax in game and less of you.

I defended you re being old and geriatric.

There were other home truths I had to tell you.

Bot, heretic, cheat, heresy, frame skipper. 🙂

KroDuK said:

Do not talk with a mouthfull

Cookie said:
I was in fact defending you on that one, I did not feel you were old and geriatric. 🙂

  

PS: if u can't see the WTF here.. you are even deeper than I thought u were.

Nythrax is an angel compared to you; he's a top tier citizen.. we need more nythrax in game and less of you.

Nythrax is also consistently incorrect, like you are.

And you are associating with him again - this makes you a bot lover, bot, heretic, cheat, heresy, frame skipper, this is how you read between the lines, and how you treat everyone else?

He was incorrect about the playerbase.

He was incorrect re multi-clienting in other games.

Cookie said:

I defended you re being old and geriatric.

KroDuK said:

Cookie said:

I defended you re being old and geriatric.

What has a picture of a stormtrooper being stuck up a tree got to do with anything ? 🙂

your turn

KroDuK said:

your turn

Is that you? I'm happy to go there, to make it equal 🙂

Back to the spread sheet stuff:
If you edit the Actions.RequestContItems function in the EC's Actions.lua file you can get the Actions.ExportContainerItems action to dump the stats on your armor pieces in a CSV format that you can import into Excel. That way you do not need to hand enter the stats.

TimSt said:

Back to the spread sheet stuff:
If you edit the Actions.RequestContItems function in the EC's Actions.lua file you can get the Actions.ExportContainerItems action to dump the stats on your armor pieces in a CSV format that you can import into Excel. That way you do not need to hand enter the stats.

I don't use EC - it would be great if Classic had that functionality. 🙂
I keep telling people EC has a huge amount of options.

But great advice, thank you.

  

Cookie said:

I defended you re being old and geriatric.

There were other home truths I had to tell you.

Bot, heretic, cheat, heresy, frame skipper. 🙂

Cookie said:

  

@TimSt he already does that with his illegal client.. I mean.. if I was not clear enough in my answer to Popps.. i'm sorry, it's on me?

@cookie Your nephews looks like beast!

KroDuK said:

  

Cookie said:

I defended you re being old and geriatric.

There were other home truths I had to tell you.

Bot, heretic, cheat, heresy, frame skipper. 🙂

I'm only using your own words, that you keep randomly spraying out at all the posters.

I'm learning how to communicate KroDuk style 🙂

KroDuK said: 

@ TimSt he already does that with his illegal client.. I mean.. if I was not clear enough in my answer to Popps.. i'm sorry, it's on me?

It must be possible, but I have not.

Afterall, it mainly does what EC can do, but in Classic.

{and thank-you}

Cookie said:

Afterall, it mainly does what EC can do, but in Classic.

@TimSt see... thanks for your contribution tho, it's appreciated. ^^

KroDuK said:

Cookie said:

Afterall, it mainly does what EC can do, but in Classic.

@ TimSt see... thanks for your contribution tho, it's appreciated. ^^

How about you download it yourself and find out, then you don't need me to be helping you out. 🙂

Cookie said:

How about you download it yourself and find out, then you don't need me to be helping you out. 🙂

@Mesanna

KroDuK said:

Cookie said:

How about you download it yourself and find out, then you don't need me to be helping you out. 🙂

@ Mesanna

You really are a product of your generation aren't you ?

Why discuss, or compromise, or progress, when you can cancel. 🙂

The good news for society, is these things go in circles, the generation under you, have rejected those attitudes.

Your Nephews are not the entire representation of the next generation.. When My niece was trapping other kids in her house and closing the light to troll them on Roblox.. I educated her..

To me it's a lack of education/ good parenting.. teach them values and morals or they gonna get bullied when they try to cheat practicing sport at school.. or cheating with AI during their exams.. or in my case.. teaching her that trolling/bullying others innocent kids was not it.

edit: btw thanks on the self snitching again.. you are really a piece of work.. if mesanna ain't acting on this one.. you are really my best ally around here.

KroDuK said:

Your Nephews are not the entire representation of the next generation.. When My niece was trapping other kids in her house and closing the light to troll them on Roblox.. I educated her..

To me it's a lack of education/ good parenting.. teach them values and morals or they gonna get bullied when they try to cheat practicing sport at school.. or cheating with AI during their exams.. or in my case.. teaching her that trolling/bullying others innocent kids was not it.

My sons. 🙂
They are not going to get bullied, the 16 y/o is one of the fastest 400m sprinters in the country, and has set the school records in athletics. As well as taking 4 A Levels, including advanced maths and programming.
The 13 y/o is 6ft tall, and dwarfs everyone else.
Everyone says they are a credit, and role models to everyone.
So now you are giving me advice on parenting, this is classic. 🙂

KroDuK said:

edit: btw thanks on the self snitching again.. you are really a piece of work.. if mesanna ain't acting on this one.. you are really my best ally around here.

I actually like to think Mesanna and the Devs are not so green in life as you are.

Things are not black and white, I just like to offer suggestions, alternatives, possibilities for progression.

The Devs can take it or leave it, I don't try and ram it down their throats. I try and persuade, with logical arguments.

I've been very transparent, as even you will admit, because I want people to see where I am coming from. I genuinely play the game, and am enjoying it. It has some faults, everyone says the same stuff, but I offer solutions. Unlike you, who is not playing the game, and sniping from the outside. Why do you think only you, has the correct solution? How about we offer up alternatives?

                                  
I found your picture as a kid.. pretty resembling.. unlike your beast of nephews!

Edit: just in the case u are a very challenged individual.. u were promoting what shall not be named.. telling me to INSTALL IT. mesanna HAS to act upon this.. we are at war and this is the official UO forum!

KroDuK said:

                                  

Back to your normal modus operandi.
Name me one area I have lied in, without reading between the lines.
One minute you say I'm self snitching, then you say I'm lying - you can't have both.
That's all you've got? I must go, work!

Cookie said:

It must be possible, but I have not.

Afterall, it mainly does what EC can do, but in Classic.

  

KroDuK said:

                                  
I found your picture as a kid.. pretty resembling.. unlike your beast of nephews!

Edit: just in the case u are a very challenged individual.. u were promoting what shall not be named.. telling me to INSTALL IT. mesanna HAS to act upon this.. we are at war!

Thank you for the picture. 🙂

I was not promoting it, I was just suggesting that rather than you keep talking about it all the time, how about you look for yourself, then you don't need to involve me.

Good ideas can come from anywhere. 

You maybe at war, I am not really. I think this is the essence of our ideologies. I am not into cancelling everyone. If they feel they must ban us all - so be it.
I've tried to explain, that quite a few game issues can be fixed, and made to be a lot more fun.
Without going backwards. We can go forwards.

Cookie said:

 then you don't need to involve me.

Don't play the victim now.. be a man.

Take this conversation elsewhere.