No this is working perfectly on every shard except Atlantic
ive missed looting rights on 2 bosses even when i was there at the start on Europa, can only imagine the pain on Atlantic. But some reward for the people spawning the boss would be good
Although I like the idea of being able to trade in chest rewards for a drop selection, even a random bag with same chances for certain rewards as boss. I wouldn't mind having a 6 minute delay on announcement of location from town criers either. It would allow t-hunters to get there and start fight before bank sitters arrived.
treasure chests dont tend to give more than 3 of the new deco stuff and thats for hoard and trove, ive only done a few supply/cache and they tend to be 0-1 for those. Im happy with the stuff from the chests i guess, if it has any value, but im not sure it compares to some of the new arti-level items you get from the bags from the Manifestation? I feel more sorry for tamers, including myself as the current chance of taming any shadowhounds is pretty slim unless you get a boss with <10 players on it
Also, isnt too late for these suggestions?
I agree with the general feedback in this thread. This event is just set up oddly. The t-hunters actually doing the maps get very little, if any, reward for their time and map investment.
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As an example:
Last night I logged in just as Pacific was killing off a Manifestation. I quickly switched to my t-hunter to start running maps. As I pulled my first chest, I got the "The land stirs, but the evil remains distant." system message, so I knew I was close to the start of the cycle. I also knew others were doing maps from the discussion in general chat. I ran through a few maps and watched the system messages. As the cycle end got close, I switched to Stash maps so I didn't get stuck at a chest when the boss popped. As I dug up my 9th chest, "The Ground ruptures..." system message appeared. I cleared the guardians and the chest, dropped off the gold so I wasn't overloaded for the boss, input the coordinates to create a waypoint, and ran to the location. I saw, engaged, and damaged the boss, but did not get looting rights, as quite a few tamers/fighters were present. I got 4 artifacts for the maps I ran.
This was not an enjoyable, engaging, "let me play this game and tell me friends about it" gameplay experience.
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Yes, I realize that as one of the t-hunters, the proper way to engage with this content is to mark a rune for the chest you are digging, and if the boss spawns, abandon the chest, kill the boss, and then come back to the chest, but that is counter-intuitive to a Treasure Hunter.
Overall it is just an odd, non sequitur design. It's like having a contest for tailors to turn in BoDs, where once you've turned in enough BoDs, you get to participate in a jousting contest! Whaaaa?
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Kyronix, the idea of setting up a standard "Treasures of..." turn in NPC for the new chest antiquities sounds like a pretty good one to me. If someone wants to abandon their chest for a shot at a prize, so be it. However, if they want to use their Treasure Hunter as a Treasure Hunter, and not a front-line fighter, then let them grind out chests and get their rewards that way. You could even set it up so only the characters that are opening chests could turn in antiquities to claim rewards.
I'm figuring it's too late in the event for you all to make any changes, but seriously, as it stands right now, it kind of sucks for the t-hunters.
with a dev team of 2 working on NL.. anything is too late for us
I'm lost here.. seen my third manifestation.. town crier was yelling 2 set of coordinates, i've used your link Fenris, was helpful... first set of coordinates was empty.. I went to the second one.. there is a golden manifestation with 4 minions.. the golden mani. cannot be damage and yet still attack and disarm me.. i'm like I have time to bring up my alt account.
2 min later no more manifestation.. only the remain of a noob, minions alive no other corpses.. did it despawn? Town crier stopped yelling coordinates.. actually he stopped talking -.-
PS: no one has killed it, my fencer was still 2 screen of the manifestation that was chassing and killing that noob.. no one else was around while i was bringing the alt.
Kinda lame.. won't gonna lie.. was crafting potion and keeping an eye on town crier for 4-5 hours.. was pump even if I had to solo that thing -.-
If you want go spend one hour on any of the shards you mentioned you'll see for yourself
Thinking that on most shards, other than Atlantic, except during prime time only one player is doing chests. Having to do five hoards in a row to raise the boss seems a little excessive. Think if I am going to make that effort, and then not be able to loot the final chest until the battle ends, I should get something more out of that final battle than the usual loot.
So as a mapper ON ATLANTIC without access to shard shields... This event has been fairly rough. I go do all the work for the boss and never get the loot.
Yes, we have antiquities - but they are worth a fraction of the drops. You need around 20 antiquities to equal a single drop. If not more. And the market for antiquities is fairly small compared to the market for usable gear.
Anyhow, I have found a system if you want to reward or include your mappers.... And I recommend every mapper do it, unless they plan on adding loot tables to the chests themselves (which is doubtful at this point).
Place your completed maps on a vendor, and instruct your guild, players, server, whatever to come purchase them. They can find it by searching for "map completed by" or "map completed <name>. This should show up with a list of that persons completed maps. Then whoever bought it can just trash it for turn-in points, and help keep these mappers going.
Just a suggestion, and people have been contributing to mine, as well as dumping maps into my mailbox. It helps to offset the pressure to do something for everyone else's fun but your own.
I was the only one running maps last night around 2am, and then on that manifestation I didn't even manage to get loot rights. That stung.
Atl boss needs a tweak for sure.. was there when my first one spawned... pulled its life bar when it was attackable.., got a whole 3 arrows out before it was dead.. big crowd yes but even krampus lasts longer than that.. the treasure hunters that dig them up dont stand a chance at that type of encounter..
so many flaws to the event, whats happening now on Europa is that everyone is lining up pre-dugup chests and waiting till the Boss is imminent then "Removing Traps" off all the preloaded chests so they spawn the boss (as the count only triggers on remove trap) and then just gating in their guild mates..easier top just give a reward to any Thunter who contributed at least say 4 points to spawning the boss, then this wouldnt happen (map lvl1s-5 so 1-5 points per map). The stuff in the Treasure chests isnt rare enough either, so im currently just filling up my house storage with potentially useless deco? Over 500 items so far
Yesterday morning on Pacific, I used two accounts to help kill a Manifestation. There were a bunch of tamers and a couple throwers present, maybe 20 people total. Both my accounts used mages with EV's while casting Flamestrike with looping macros. The fight was a mess and lasted about 10 min, since only a couple of us would kill the Portals. I received looting rights and got a drop on both accounts. (Shout out to TimSt's alternate and a couple of the tamers who stuck around after the boss died to kill off the portals and clean up the masses of Shadow Reavers!)
Last night on Pacific I participated in killing two Manifestations. There were bot stacks at both. Each fight lasted around 60-80 seconds. I used a Spellweaver who did around 10 Flamestrikes (~50 points each) and 4 WoD (~650 points each) to each boss, in addition to all the damage tics from 2 EV's up the entire fight. The WoDs alone are around 2400 points in damage. I did not receive looting rights, let alone a drop, from either boss.
The bot stacks are funny, unbelievably easy to detect, and completely change the dynamic of the game. I have thought about setting up a second client and running my own bot stack, but I just don't want to. I'll keep chugging with the EC.
I will however stop playing during prime time for a while. As the event wears on, especially on smaller shards like Pac, people will get tired of doing the boss. Eventually, people are going to be begging in Gen Chat, even during prime time, for help killing the boss. I'll get my drops then.
Well, Atlantic just went down for the time being.
Since I posted, the tip of selling maps has stopped - nobody is contributing them and nobody is buying the completed ones.
So... My choice is to help the server (which ends up being a bunch of garbage bots) and progress the maps... or to take the time to make a character who can actually compete with them.
This could have been so good, instead, it's just another flop.
If things were shard bound (why suddenly not?) This would have stayed strictly an Atlantic problem now we have Atlantic trash ruining our small shards...
better at whining for sure ;-)
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