Having just completed a second crafting skill, I feel no accomplishment, only relief with being done, anyone else having similar feelings?
Also, you need to remove the requirement to complete one crafting skill before taking up another. I did not want Grandmaster Tailoring, I wanted to be able to make clothing for my characters. I wanted to Grandmaster Smithing so I could repair my stuff and add durability. Instead of doing what I wanted, towards a goal I desired, I spent hours and hours doing what I did not want to do, gaining an ability I wasn't seeking to learn. I do not think this is a scheme with positive player retention.
Agreed McDougle. Super Agree.
Ya have to understand how this feels devs... I am interesting in blacksmithing, instead of mining and blacksmithing, I am running around Trinsic trying to find a supply depot.. even if the little waypointer system text worked its still running around for no reason. I also can't be the only one who is getting nothing from the dialogues. So none of this is rewarding, we're not doing anything by going from here to here to here to here to here again... its super unsatisfying, and just a task to accomplish that is tedious.
Before someone chimes in about the length of time, its not about the time, its about the process, if you're so concerned about having a shorter time to skill up, we can have that, we don't need the extraneous stuff that isn't enjoyable to plod through. If we are to go mine and blacksmith a bunch at it is, why add in all the extra stuff? Feels like a detriment to the experience to have to do BoDs and go here and here and there and here and there... that's how it feels by the way.. oh another here and there and there and here and here and there.
This sure is a heck of a lot of focus directly on skills/skilling right at the start of the game.. it feels very gamey, not very RPG-y.
The selling point was seasonal retro type shard I've played very little but this nothing like that
seasonal retro type
yeah, I was super hyped for that...
So to be clear: you wanted to be a blacksmith, but mistakenly chose to be a tailor first and are mad that you couldn’t be a blacksmith until you finished tailoring?
No mistaking, I took tailoring, never did I imagine in Ultima Online that it would lock me out from getting blacksmithing.
Its not about pre planning Pawain its about design choices that drive players away.
You can endless support every decision the devs make then criticize anyone being critical, just ask yourself if that's going to end up with a sever full of people, or just another dead production shard.
Again Pawain.. its not about the time it takes, again pawain.
You don't have to be a jack about it Pawain.
These design choices are made to help new players.
I played only 1 toon until Samurai Empire came out.
He had a bunch of skills that made a very poor template. A mage swords tinker camper among other things.
NL makes you start with a decent set of base skills, then you can ruin your template later. But in regards to crafting. You can't mess up, you can only add crafting skills.
I feel like if you experienced the magic of early UO you would be singing a different tune. Edit don't want to sound like an ass here myself.. Ive just heard you speak of the struggles, and yeah there were but also the other side of that was amazing.
I do not think these design decision help new players. New or not the experience is.. not enjoyable, especially if we are going to lock people into decisions, especially players that might not know what they're getting into.. I think we are losing huge numbers every day/weekend this server stays up in this configuration, players that may not circle back around to try again.
We can start with a better than crap character, we can have fast skill progression, we can have a guide about templates, even completely optional quests if people really need it, we don't need to lock people into classes... or lock people out of skills...
We can have a better pure newbie experience without fundamentally changing the game.
I would not wish a hodge podge skill set on any new player. I tried in in October 97 though the 2000s. It was not a good system.
After you have learned the mechanics you can tell others about it or complain. Your choice.
It says Ultima Online on the game, f me for thinking it would be Ultima Online, never have they ever locked you out of stuff like this... For some reason, not sure why, I thought it would be a past version of it, or there abouts.. for some reason.
Needle me all you want partner, but c'mon.
"I would not wish a hodge podge skill set on any new player. "
Sometimes that hodge podge made for great gameplay. Point being, you are complaining about a thing that didn't need to be so, we can have a better guide, we don't need to *lock* people out of skills.
I am being vocal here, complaining if you will, so we get a better game experience, it has already worked, we already have the alternate path, I firmly believe it will work more.
He said anyone have similar feelings?
I did not and gave him examples of what he can do and make now. Sorry for enjoying NL it must make you feel terrible that so many of are in NL having fun and begging for it to run all week. That does not fit your predictions of NL. Must be terrible for you.
Yup helping the players that are confused about what they can do with Smith and Tailoring.
Standard Allen.
I am working on my second skill. I just used my 100 Smith to repair a bunch of players items. I have imbued my weapons.
Sorry, but I like the system. If yall think getting 50 in each skill and going from there is better then come up with an explanation why without disparaging the Devs.
Am I supposed to pretend I dont like stuff when I do?
Only 25 more Tailor BODs till im 100 in that one. I can repair all armor types and imbue whips.
Right. You do not have to like doing your base skills first before you add more.
I'm ok with players mixing and matching, since eventually I'll be competing with them for drops.
So, they are going to change the skill method yet again?
The divergent path wasn't working with combat skills or focus anyway last time I tried it still shoehorns you into the skill set it thinks you want
Some prefer television over streaming/netflix.. someone here really enjoy his scheduled TV show..
It just seems out of place on Ultima Online.. the noobs can't get lost in the woods picking up flowers off the ground (regs) wich is sad.
In my opinion BS have no passion for what they doing, a SUS vision and are out of touch.
Still not gaining in focus this morning
Just a note on carpentry, the types of wood are everywhere and plentiful, the issue you are seeing from other players are the quests (really easy [follow the text telling you where to go every 15 seconds or so] except for Frostwood, which is on Dagger Island, and there now that one is also easy) Carpentry is the easyest and fastest craft to level and complete BODs for, plus my crafter has switched to using a Vanquishing Crossbow of Thunder and is having a blast at 100 skill and little open range danger. Mine has done Carpentry GM, Tailor GM, Blacksmith GM, and Alchemy to 50 (just cannot find the pheramone stuff in the hive, stil trying) and Archery at 100, the armor is all 70's except for the last one, which is 68.
There is an NPC that will change your fighting skill ONE time (well, those are his words, not really sure) and he or she was near the training grounds in Trinsic. By the time I found him I had already finished the carpentry, tailoring, and blacksmithing quest lines (in that order) but do not think I had started the alchemy training. People in chat helped me find the person that changed my skill. Do not remember if there was a charge, but they also transfered all of the skill points, so did not have to start from scratch. The job board even gave skill points for archery as an option, oh and PAY YOUR CITY BOD TURN IN RENT NOW, IT TOOK ME FOUR HOURS, WAIT TOO LONG AND WHINE WITH THE REST (is a special tab on your house sign designating your amount due and the expiration of you lease of the house if you fail to perform)