Revisited 3rd Party Programs List ?

Any news on when we can expect to see a "revisited" 3rd Party Program list?

I'd read @Mesanna & @Kyronix were looking at revisiting the list. Just wondering if anyone had heard anything else about it. This is probably the biggest curiosity for UO I've had in a long time. Not trying to rush anyone, I just wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything. 🙂

I'm dying to see which direction this one goes ! lol

Hopefully for the better and all those 3rd party programs that are being used by like 90% of the pvp players become bannable.  This needs to be done to clean this game up so decent players get a chance at more quality gaming experience.

It is being worked on, let us wait until they publish a list then we’ll talk about it. I have no idea also about how things will work, does it mean they will ban people who don’t stick to the list? 

It means that with the little secret file they placed in the Classic client a long time ago,which we all agreed to which tells them exactly who's using what, that they may start enforcing that gigantic list of tagged accounts.

Yeah? Do I get some kind of award for competing all this time with only uoassist? I’d love to see the egg on some people’s faces if true colours were revealed. 

Mervyn said:

let us wait until they publish a list then we’ll talk about it. 

Good idea. Should it be published in a News Letter? or in Publish Notes? or maybe in it's own Topic? I'd think we'd be able to find it on Stratics or Here ?

I didn't want to cause a debate or even talk abt it really. I was just curious where I should b looking for it when it drops. Don't want to miss it & I'm to lazy to go searching around.

When were any programs other than uo assist and uoam/cartographer ever approved?

Dukarlo said:

When were any programs other than uo assist and uoam/cartographer ever approved?

drcossack said:

Dukarlo said:

When were any programs other than uo assist and uoam/cartographer ever approved?

They never were.  But there's a tacit "approval" in the fact that nobody gets banned for using them, unless they're afk'ing with them.

WRONG

http://www.uoguide.com/UOPro

Programs

There were 7 applications accepted into the program.

• UOAssist - The must have program to play the Classic Client with
• UO Auto-Map - A mapping application for UO
• UO Curse Tool - Spout profanity the Old English way
• UO Journal Converter - A useful tool for handling saved Journal files
• UO Magic Tool - A tool to keep track of Reagents and cast spells
• UO Spawn Map - Helps you locate specific monsters and spawning areas

The final application, UO Calculator, is no longer available.

Bilbo said:

drcossack said:

Dukarlo said:

When were any programs other than uo assist and uoam/cartographer ever approved?

They never were.  But there's a tacit "approval" in the fact that nobody gets banned for using them, unless they're afk'ing with them.

WRONG

http://www.uoguide.com/UOPro

Programs

There were 7 applications accepted into the program.

• UOAssist - The must have program to play the Classic Client with
• UO Auto-Map - A mapping application for UO
• UO Curse Tool - Spout profanity the Old English way
• UO Journal Converter - A useful tool for handling saved Journal files
• UO Magic Tool - A tool to keep track of Reagents and cast spells
• UO Spawn Map - Helps you locate specific monsters and spawning areas

The final application, UO Calculator, is no longer available.

drcossack said:

Bilbo said:

drcossack said:

Dukarlo said:

When were any programs other than uo assist and uoam/cartographer ever approved?

They never were.  But there's a tacit "approval" in the fact that nobody gets banned for using them, unless they're afk'ing with them.

WRONG

http://www.uoguide.com/UOPro

Programs

There were 7 applications accepted into the program.

• UOAssist - The must have program to play the Classic Client with
• UO Auto-Map - A mapping application for UO
• UO Curse Tool - Spout profanity the Old English way
• UO Journal Converter - A useful tool for handling saved Journal files
• UO Magic Tool - A tool to keep track of Reagents and cast spells
• UO Spawn Map - Helps you locate specific monsters and spawning areas

The final application, UO Calculator, is no longer available.

And how many of those get used?  Auto-map got replaced by Cartographer, and I'd guess very few people use Journal Converter.  Magic Tool isn't necessary because you haven't needed to keep track of regs since AoS.

LOL It does not matter if they were used by you or not the fact is once again you are proven wrong but in your UO, only what you think is the way UO really is.

Bilbo said:LOL It does not matter if they were used by you or not the fact is once again you are proven wrong but in your UO, only what you think is the way UO really is.

Can you even blame someone for cheating? Someone sent me a video of them using a Speedhack, (one was even posted on these official forums) there’s a speeder that makes the horsy legs move double speed as a side effect, he basically said it’s used to move the same speed as Enhanced Client, as are many features used to do things EC does. 

On Stratics they don’t let you talk about 3rd party apps at all but they allow links to Pinco’s UI which has the biggest cheat script I’ve ever seen in my life of automatically taking you out of combat when bloodoathed. 

The system is an omnishambles. We’re in desperate need of a list and rules. Whether or not they’ll enforce it I don’t know. 

I mean what do they say to a paying customer who says they’re using a speeder to make 2d client same speed as 3D? 

@Kyronix this issue needs to be addressed immediately. Literally all major pvp guilds are cheating now. Unless you guys have approved them and I'm just not in the loop here. What is my incentive for playing a game where a large portion of the population I am playing with is using cheats?

Speed hacking, third party scripting programs, modified user interfaces with illegal changes, packet pushing, the list goes on... should I just give up my hopes for a fair and even playing field? 

I literally had one guy tell me that its just part of the 'strategy' of UO, to either get smart or just get left in the dust. And yeah he plays ATL and claims to be 'The greatest of all time', ill let you guess who it is. lol. 

crunchnasty said:

@ Kyronix this issue needs to be addressed immediately. Literally all major pvp guilds are cheating now. Unless you guys have approved them and I'm just not in the loop here. What is my incentive for playing a game where a large portion of the population I am playing with is using cheats?

Speed hacking, third party scripting programs, modified user interfaces with illegal changes, packet pushing, the list goes on... should I just give up my hopes for a fair and even playing field? 

I literally had one guy tell me that its just part of the 'strategy' of UO, to either get smart or just get left in the dust. And yeah he plays ATL and claims to be 'The greatest of all time', ill let you guess who it is. lol. 

They're not going to reply to this topic, just like they're not going to reply to my Grizzled Mare thread, yes they both have equal importance......to me :P 

The funny part, to me, is that casting and running with the unmentionable programs is still slower than EC.

The_Higgs_1 said:

Hopefully for the better and all those 3rd party programs that are being used by like 90% of the pvp players become bannable.  This needs to be done to clean this game up so decent players get a chance at more quality gaming experience.

 The problem is that there are maybe 5 or 6 people for me to fight against on most of my shards. Take %90 away and im left with fuck all to do

This is just gonna end like the castle contest.

It is soooo easy to open your mouth and say "we will publish a new list soon".

Then they start and realize there are details. Oh snap! Only hot air.

crunchnasty said:

@ Kyronix this issue needs to be addressed immediately. Literally all major pvp guilds are cheating now. Unless you guys have approved them and I'm just not in the loop here. What is my incentive for playing a game where a large portion of the population I am playing with is using cheats?

Speed hacking, third party scripting programs, modified user interfaces with illegal changes, packet pushing, the list goes on... should I just give up my hopes for a fair and even playing field? 

I literally had one guy tell me that its just part of the 'strategy' of UO, to either get smart or just get left in the dust. And yeah he plays ATL and claims to be 'The greatest of all time', ill let you guess who it is. lol. 

Are you suggesting to make the cheats legal? Or do you think they will stop using those tools when they don't make it on the list? Outcome is the same in each case: They will keep using those programs.

BS could enforce ToS on them though and just ban their accounts, but for what gain? It probably just gonna kill the whole UO PvP thing and just cost them money. You might not like it, but that "one guy" seems to be spot on.

Uo has many strong points. PvP is not. UO PvP is fubar compared to fun PvP in other games. PvPers will tell you otherwise though. That's why all the kids are sweating UO Yew gate instead of Fortnite all day long 🙂

No for closed sources 3rd app.