Wouldn't be an issue if we had a working website not down for 48+ weekly having to be manually reset,
Wouldn't be an issue if we had a working forum that didn't require spamming login 500 times,
Wouldn't be an issue if we had a working login server and not having frequent issues,
Wouldn't be an issue if servers weren't constantly crashing every other day,
Wouldn't be an issue if 10+ year old bugs weren't ignored and fixed,
Wouldn't be an issue if vendor search wasn't broken every other search,
Wouldn't be an issue if 3rd party clients were addressed,
Wouldn't be an issue if rampant cheating in EVERY ASPECT OF THE GAME was addressed,
Wouldn't be an issue if Devs gave us real updates instead of copy/paste ToT/Quest/Spawn repeat,
Wouldn't be an issue if we got Dev time to the live game instead of 95% dedicated to vaporware NL,
Wouldn't be an issue if this was a ANY OTHER GAME.

Why can't we fix any of these low hanging fruit issues? All long standing issues. They are clearly aware of everything above, yet nothing gets fixed. For any other business in the world any of the above is unacceptable but for some reason the UO players love/accept this and bury their heads in the sand. Any one of these would be concern for any real game, alas, this is not a real game and for some reason the players are happy with nothing and will white knight/simp for our glorious leaders. Truthfully is embarrassing the above list can be made yet the dev time is full throttle NL still.

Tried to refer a friend to UO once. The website was down. When it came up, the account management was down. They never tried again.

Gee wonder why all shards are dead except 1? 

I would love nothing other than for this game and the devs to succeed but they are making it really hard these days. If any devs read this start simple, fix one thing: the website. Get a new host, whatever it may be, it needs to be fixed ASAP. Please. Don't do it for me, do it for you.

We do not mean to bash the devs.

We are passionate.

We care about the game.

The direction the game is going is clearly not working.

Prioritize. Address the BIG ISSUES.

Then work on NL.

This discussion has been closed.

IBTL. 

Oreogl said:

IBTL. 

Get your +1s while you can.

username said:

Oreogl said:

IBTL. 

Get your +1s while you can.

Gotta rack up the post count!

Oreogl said:

IBTL. 

I'd say it'll be open a while, nothing in the OP is overly bad. no foul language, no personal attacks etc.

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Oreogl said:

IBTL. 

I'd say it'll be open a while, nothing in the OP is overly bad. no foul language, no personal attacks etc.

Sure, you could be right. 

😂

Oreogl said:

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Oreogl said:

IBTL. 

I'd say it'll be open a while, nothing in the OP is overly bad. no foul language, no personal attacks etc.

Sure, you could be right. 

I’m not putting money on it though. 

C'mon, not even Tree Fiddy?

It's also the attitude of the forum anyone with an issue is immediately attacked and the issue dismissed 

Grimbeard said:

It's also the attitude of the forum anyone with an issue is immediately attacked and the issue dismissed 

Grimbeard said:

It's also the attitude of the forum anyone with an issue is immediately attacked and the issue dismissed 

shootgun said:

Grimbeard said:

It's also the attitude of the forum anyone with an issue is immediately attacked and the issue dismissed 

This!!!

Coming here with a legitimate issue, a real issue that is effecting your game play, will immediately make you the target of 3 accounts that do not contribute anything to any thread but just attack the poster. They wont even have a valid point 99% of the time.

Bonnie was a dumb person to bet all of her chips on NL. NL was a stupid decision no matter how you look at it. Nobody asked for it. Nobody wanted it.

I and pretty much every single person in my guild, would much rather have the devs fix know bugs/exploits rather than work on NL. 

- Freeze the development on NL. 

- Focus on fixing and improving the current production shards for a half year.

- Take action against blatant exploit users and multiboxers.

- Provision faster servers for the VS DB and event areas.

For f**ks sake, do these and you will have my total approval. But, this won't be done. Because bonnie is single handedly the dumbest and the worst product manager I have ever seen in my whole life.

@Victim_Of_Siege that bet still good?

Oreogl said:

@ Victim_Of_Siege that bet still good?

shootgun said:

Oreogl said:

@ Victim_Of_Siege that bet still good?

If the bet was whether or not I was going to be banned, then the answer is I am going to be banned. I made quite a bit sure of that in private messages to the mods. 

My guess would be Monday around 1pm when bonnie finally makes it to the office and sees the screenshots from mods.

Nah, only if the thread would be locked.  I don’t see anyone here rooting for you to be banned.

CovenantX said:

The thread will be locked by the 'usual suspects' (pretty good movie) as every thread normally is.

That’s the one with Kevin Spacey right?  Kaiser Sosai or however you spell it. 

NL was a stupid decision no matter how you look at it. Nobody asked for it. Nobody wanted it.

I want it. I ask for it.

I want it even more now that it seems to infuriate people who can't figure out that their preferences don't equal the preferences of others, and that they shouldn't try to generalize for everyone. I want it because even if it's a train wreck then at least they tried to give us something unexpected. "Give us only what we want" is petulant at best, and entirely anti-art and expression at worst.

Oreogl said:

shootgun said:

Grimbeard said:

It's also the attitude of the forum anyone with an issue is immediately attacked and the issue dismissed 

This!!!

Coming here with a legitimate issue, a real issue that is effecting your game play, will immediately make you the target of 3 accounts that do not contribute anything to any thread but just attack the poster. They wont even have a valid point 99% of the time.

Bonnie was a dumb person to bet all of her chips on NL. NL was a stupid decision no matter how you look at it. Nobody asked for it. Nobody wanted it.

I and pretty much every single person in my guild, would much rather have the devs fix know bugs/exploits rather than work on NL. 

- Freeze the development on NL. 

- Focus on fixing and improving the current production shards for a half year.

- Take action against blatant exploit users and multiboxers.

- Provision faster servers for the VS DB and event areas.

For f**ks sake, do these and you will have my total approval. But, this won't be done. Because bonnie is single handedly the dumbest and the worst product manager I have ever seen in my whole life.

@ Victim_Of_Siege that bet still good?

Well, since it's made it this long, whether it gets closed or not is irrelevent. The bet now will be how many times Grimbeard and Pawain have a back and forth while pretending they aren't in love . . .

@Jepeth Developing NL is not a problem in itself. They can accommodate different users with different preference. But betting all of their chips on NL was stupid. The production shards have been on maintenance mode for what, 5 years now?

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Oreogl said:

shootgun said:

Grimbeard said:

It's also the attitude of the forum anyone with an issue is immediately attacked and the issue dismissed 

This!!!

Coming here with a legitimate issue, a real issue that is effecting your game play, will immediately make you the target of 3 accounts that do not contribute anything to any thread but just attack the poster. They wont even have a valid point 99% of the time.

Bonnie was a dumb person to bet all of her chips on NL. NL was a stupid decision no matter how you look at it. Nobody asked for it. Nobody wanted it.

I and pretty much every single person in my guild, would much rather have the devs fix know bugs/exploits rather than work on NL. 

- Freeze the development on NL. 

- Focus on fixing and improving the current production shards for a half year.

- Take action against blatant exploit users and multiboxers.

- Provision faster servers for the VS DB and event areas.

For f**ks sake, do these and you will have my total approval. But, this won't be done. Because bonnie is single handedly the dumbest and the worst product manager I have ever seen in my whole life.

@ Victim_Of_Siege that bet still good?

Well, since it's made it this long, whether it gets closed or not is irrelevent. The bet now will be how many times Grimbeard and Pawain have a back and forth while pretending they aren't in love . . .

I’m impressed they’ve maintained the facade this long.  True love finds a way  ❤️

Oreogl said:

I’m impressed they’ve maintained the facade this long.  True love finds a way  ❤️

There is a possibility they are away from their computers given the fact that it is sunday. They will lock this thread up the second they lay their eyes on it.

shootgun said:

Oreogl said:

I’m impressed they’ve maintained the facade this long.  True love finds a way  ❤️

There is a possibility they are away from their computers given the fact that it is sunday. They will lock this thread up the second they lay their eyes on it.

I’m not sure we are referring to the same thing here.  We are talking about Grimbeard’s and Pawain’s unbreakable bond.

Hey I don't hide my love 

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Oreogl said:

shootgun said:

Grimbeard said:

It's also the attitude of the forum anyone with an issue is immediately attacked and the issue dismissed 

This!!!

Coming here with a legitimate issue, a real issue that is effecting your game play, will immediately make you the target of 3 accounts that do not contribute anything to any thread but just attack the poster. They wont even have a valid point 99% of the time.

Bonnie was a dumb person to bet all of her chips on NL. NL was a stupid decision no matter how you look at it. Nobody asked for it. Nobody wanted it.

I and pretty much every single person in my guild, would much rather have the devs fix know bugs/exploits rather than work on NL. 

- Freeze the development on NL. 

- Focus on fixing and improving the current production shards for a half year.

- Take action against blatant exploit users and multiboxers.

- Provision faster servers for the VS DB and event areas.

For f**ks sake, do these and you will have my total approval. But, this won't be done. Because bonnie is single handedly the dumbest and the worst product manager I have ever seen in my whole life.

@ Victim_Of_Siege that bet still good?

Well, since it's made it this long, whether it gets closed or not is irrelevent. The bet now will be how many times Grimbeard and Pawain have a back and forth while pretending they aren't in love . . .

I was up till 3 sinking ships and beacons.  Then I played some Wingspan. So I slept in today.

Y'all seem to have this thread under control.  . Everyone sees the OP threw a fit like a 2 year old.

@Jepeth rock it!!!

Wouldn't be an issue if we had a working forum that didn't require spamming login 500 times,
I am here every day, Log in first try on my phone and Silk tablet.  Use firefox.

Wouldn't be an issue if we had a working login server and not having frequent issues,
Log in servers work 99.5+ % of the time UO is not under maintenance times.

Wouldn't be an issue if servers weren't constantly crashing every other day,
Servers do not crash every other day.

Wouldn't be an issue if 10+ year old bugs weren't ignored and fixed,
None of these bugs affect most players gameplay.

Wouldn't be an issue if vendor search wasn't broken every other search,
Vendor search is working fine, has been for a long time.

Wouldn't be an issue if 3rd party clients were addressed,
I use CC and I can not tell what others use. Nor do I care.

Wouldn't be an issue if rampant cheating in EVERY ASPECT OF THE GAME was addressed,
I see no cheating in my daily play.

Wouldn't be an issue if Devs gave us real updates instead of copy/paste ToT/Quest/Spawn repeat,
Posters asked for ToT.  I kept saying please no more ToT.  They wanted the original one over and over, at least the Devs make it fresh each time.

Wouldn't be an issue if we got Dev time to the live game instead of 95% dedicated to vaporware NL,
They do events more often than they did before NL.  We used to just get 1 event per year in September and then Halloween, Christmas stuff.  So, from Jan to September, nothing was new.  It went that way for many years.

Wouldn't be an issue if this was a ANY OTHER GAME.
Not able to respond to bad Grammar. Unsure of what this means.


Its a matter of perspective, not all players have the needs you have.  Plenty of players are having fun every day in UO and they don't even know the UO wiki exists or these Forums exist or other clients exist.

Oreogl said:

CovenantX said:

The thread will be locked by the 'usual suspects' (pretty good movie) as every thread normally is.

That’s the one with Kevin Spacey right?  Kaiser Sosai or however you spell it. 

No idea if they have a known issues/bugs forum thread somewhere.  But it may be more productive adding the information to that, than above. 

But this thread may be useful if it doesn’t devolve further.  Perhaps picking a single topic to address first would be a good approach.

CovenantX said:

Oreogl said:

CovenantX said:

The thread will be locked by the 'usual suspects' (pretty good movie) as every thread normally is.

That’s the one with Kevin Spacey right?  Kaiser Sosai or however you spell it. 

No idea if they have a known issues/bugs forum thread somewhere.  But it may be more productive adding the information to that, than above. 

But this thread may be useful if it doesn’t devolve further.  Perhaps picking a single topic to address first would be a good approach.

 

  Correct, Kevin Spacey movie.

  There is a bug report forum, tons of reports, some with and without enough information to easily reproduce... some have been fixed but most have not.   It also seems like @ Misk doesn't report "It's in the system" anymore, like he did early on within these forums, or like he did back when stratics was the "official" forum for UO.

 It does appear he at least looks at the forum every now and then. last month was when Misk was 'last active'.

Yeah looks like he hasn’t commented in a few years, which is unfortunate.

CovenantX said:

  There is a bug report forum, tons of reports, some with and without enough information to easily reproduce... some have been fixed but most have not.

Well, the devs say to post in the bug section. Then when you do a step by step it gets edited because of the forum rule not to post a step by step. Then it doesn't get fixed because they need more info. But you can't put more info because repeat previous. 

I think we're all just getting old and grouchy.

OP is partly correct. There are a LOT of things that need work but it is what it is. The majority of us just overlook a lot because there's so much to do that is working. 

-Vs hasn't been working the best for me lately. I'll grab what i need later. No biggie.
-I tried to resub another account but it was down. No biggie. I might change my mind and not do it.

-Bugs and exploits they've proven they're lax on. If i find something cool i'm considering it a feature and running with it. 

Urge said:

CovenantX said:

  There is a bug report forum, tons of reports, some with and without enough information to easily reproduce... some have been fixed but most have not.

Well, the devs say to post in the bug section. Then when you do a step by step it gets edited because of the forum rule not to post a step by step. Then it doesn't get fixed because they need more info. But you can't put more info because repeat previous. 

This actually happened?

I wouldn’t know how to fix that, other than cut and paste into a DM to the dev(s).

Urge said:
-Bugs and exploits they've proven they're lax on. If i find something cool i'm considering it a feature and running with it. 

shootgun said:

Urge said:
-Bugs and exploits they've proven they're lax on. If i find something cool i'm considering it a feature and running with it. 

What you are saying is the exploits are part of the game and people using exploits that harm other players ability to enjoy the game should not be banned from the game?

I said absolutely nothing about harming another player.

I've got a couple really cool ones. I can have a stable full of loaded packies. I can collect VvV points while invincible. Both of those were reported years and years and years ago. 

Oreogl said:

Urge said:

CovenantX said:

  There is a bug report forum, tons of reports, some with and without enough information to easily reproduce... some have been fixed but most have not.

Well, the devs say to post in the bug section. Then when you do a step by step it gets edited because of the forum rule not to post a step by step. Then it doesn't get fixed because they need more info. But you can't put more info because repeat previous. 

This actually happened?

I wouldn’t know how to fix that, other than cut and paste into a DM to the dev(s).

All you have to do is glance at the bug section from Merv. You can submit at uo.com but i suspect those go immediately to the file 13. 

Urge said:

CovenantX said:

  There is a bug report forum, tons of reports, some with and without enough information to easily reproduce... some have been fixed but most have not.

Well, the devs say to post in the bug section. Then when you do a step by step it gets edited because of the forum rule not to post a step by step. Then it doesn't get fixed because they need more info. But you can't put more info because repeat previous. 

Urge said:

shootgun said:

Urge said:
-Bugs and exploits they've proven they're lax on. If i find something cool i'm considering it a feature and running with it. 

What you are saying is the exploits are part of the game and people using exploits that harm other players ability to enjoy the game should not be banned from the game?

I said absolutely nothing about harming another player.

I've got a couple really cool ones. I can have a stable full of loaded packies. I can collect VvV points while invincible. Both of those were reported years and years and years ago. 

I wish loaded pack animals were still a normal thing.  

NikonUS said:

Lot of people that are current testing the NL and share their opinions on slack and discord are very worried, NL is full of bugs and they are rushing to release anything.

shootgun said:

 She probably feels very challenged when real smart people make real good suggestions. 

She wont be getting any of those from you.

CovenantX said:

perhaps there should be an option for moderators to ban certain posters from specific threads, instead of locking the thread, block the posters so the thread(s) can stay mostly productive.

probably should have been a thing since the beginning, but it's not too late until it is.

What is productive about this Topic or the OP?  Its is just a compilation of his other posts.

Pawain said:

CovenantX said:

perhaps there should be an option for moderators to ban certain posters from specific threads, instead of locking the thread, block the posters so the thread(s) can stay mostly productive.

probably should have been a thing since the beginning, but it's not too late until it is.

What is productive about this Topic or the OP?  Its is just a compilation of his other posts.

You can ignore in game cheats and bugs because it doesn't effect your game play but can't ignore post on forums ?

Pawain said:

CovenantX said:

perhaps there should be an option for moderators to ban certain posters from specific threads, instead of locking the thread, block the posters so the thread(s) can stay mostly productive.

probably should have been a thing since the beginning, but it's not too late until it is.

What is productive about this Topic or the OP?  Its is just a compilation of his other posts.

   complaints about legitimate issues in the game?   I thought it was obvious.

Obviously, I have opposing opinions on this.  On one hand I think it's definitely better to be supportive of the people creating a luxury enjoyment for you.  On the other hand, they are charging a premium for a near three decade old service and can't seem to keep up with more affordable options.  Playing on an official version of the game should make players feel secure that things are going to be working and that bugs will be fixed or new things will be built. 

But, so far for me, it feels like I'm paying for an inferior product to what I could get somewhere else.  And I know this is going to get people trying to defend the game and say "Don't let the doorknob hit ya."  But clever sayings and quips don't change the facts.  I regret buying a 6 month pass when I came back this time.  I regret dropping $50 on sovereigns.  I'm just not having fun, unfortunately.

If that's "Bashing", then I'd argue that you just have too low of a tolerance for feedback.

Feigr said:

Obviously, I have opposing opinions on this.  On one hand I think it's definitely better to be supportive of the people creating a luxury enjoyment for you.  On the other hand, they are charging a premium for a near three decade old service and can't seem to keep up with more affordable options.  Playing on an official version of the game should make players feel secure that things are going to be working and that bugs will be fixed or new things will be built. 

But, so far for me, it feels like I'm paying for an inferior product to what I could get somewhere else.  And I know this is going to get people trying to defend the game and say "Don't let the doorknob hit ya."  But clever sayings and quips don't change the facts.  I regret buying a 6 month pass when I came back this time.  I regret dropping $50 on sovereigns.  I'm just not having fun, unfortunately.

If that's "Bashing", then I'd argue that you just have too low of a tolerance for feedback.

If you are not having fun then you should move along or accept that the money per month is worth keeping it to just play casually.  I play Wingspan a lot.  In a year Ill play 5 or 6 different games to the end.

Have yall not seen what available on Steam!?

UO does not have an end nor do you run out of things to accomplish.

I can't buy Diablo 4 because I know I would spend at least 2 years on that and nothing else.

I play a lot of different games.

That's not the topic.  The topic is the quality of UO.  Saying "Just go play something else." is not an argument for why UO can't be better or can't suffer criticism.

The bootlickers make it sound like having a website down every weekend+ is the normal. 
Like having a working forum is equivalent to climbing to the peak of Mt Everest. 

"They're trying their best"
"Minor things don't annoy me"
"If it doesn't work when I try I'll just try again later"
"It's not happening and doesn't bother me"
"27 year old spaghetti code"

HOLY THE AMOUNT OF COPING IS INSANE.

Like having basic functions in game just.... work..... is asking too much? The website being down every other day and forum not working is embarrassing plain and simple. Vendor search still unstable after 4 years is hilarious.
Sure, you can't ever get rid of cheaters 100%. Sure, servers crash occasionally and there's nothing you can do about it. Etc. I don't expect that list to ever be fulfilled. But giving up and throwing in the towel to work on NL is a joke.
Find me another game with these issues outstanding as long as UO has. You cannot.

"Just find another game". How about no? No one should be forced to quit because of this. They are running a business, not the other way around. If our glorious leaders cannot fix this stuff, THEY should quit:

• Hire people that can fix it
• Step down and allow someone else to take over to lead fixing it

Suggestion:
Anyone working on NL that works on the website/forum immediately focuses on these two until they're fixed. Let's start there.

username said:

website down every weekend+ 

This is a crock of BULLCRAP.  The poster just loves to greatly exaggerate everything to try and prove a point and bash UO.  Yes UO has problems but according to OP UO is totally broken and unplayable.  Today is Sunday, you know part of the weekend and UO.COM is up, what you have UO.Com blocked somehow to try and prove your point yourself and by the way I was on UO.COM yesterday also.  Cheating has been going on for 20+ years and now is is this GREAT problem, what a joke.  Do I like it no but every game has cheaters.

It's had disruption every weekend I've been back.  And the wiki is here.  I'm not claiming it's a big deal, but it's a deal.

Feigr said:

It's had disruption every weekend I've been back.  And the wiki is here.  I'm not claiming it's a big deal, but it's a deal.

I go to UO.COM almost every day and every weekend and there have been some but never every weekend.  Yes there is a problem with UO Forum and google and google admitted it is there problem and IMHO google sees it as a very low priority.

Lord_Frodo said:

username said:

website down every weekend+ 

This is a crock of BULLCRAP.  The poster just loves to greatly exaggerate everything to try and prove a point and bash UO.  Yes UO has problems but according to OP UO is totally broken and unplayable.  Today is Sunday, you know part of the weekend and UO.COM is up, what you have UO.Com blocked somehow to try and prove your point yourself and by the way I was on UO.COM yesterday also.  Cheating has been going on for 20+ years and now is is this GREAT problem, what a joke.  Do I like it no but every game has cheaters.

Here's the cope train. All aboard, huff that good copium. You can go through my post history, I've posted NUMEROUS times where the website has been down on the weekends. Stop trying to gaslight. Fact is the website should NEVER be down aside scheduled maintenance and the one in a million power outage/lightning strike/act of god. It's 2024, not 1992. Have you ever ran a website? Didn't think so. I've ran several good 'ol godaddy (and other) $20/yr hosting with free domain/icann registration that never was down. Several VPS running this and that. Hell I've even hosted several on a LAMP server DMZ'd on my own connection, a residential connection, that never went down (aside power outages). How can I run my own website hosted at my house on my residential connection that goes down for 2 minutes a year but UO can't their website up on weekends for the last handful weekends? They must need some domain/hosting viagra.

Feigr said:

It's had disruption every weekend I've been back.  And the wiki is here.  I'm not claiming it's a big deal, but it's a deal.

Thank you for being honest. I do agree and it's not a huge deal for me... sucks when I go to check it to see what events are on the weekends or something on the wiki and it's down but otherwise I don't really care. Clearly doesn't mean I don't think it should be fixed, though. I think many of the other posters are too selfish and don't understand this: while I don't personally care or doesn't personally affect me doesn't mean I (or the devs) should ignore it and not hope it gets fixed. It's attitudes of those posters that probably rubs off on the devs so they don't bother fixing it.

Lord_Frodo said:

Feigr said:

It's had disruption every weekend I've been back.  And the wiki is here.  I'm not claiming it's a big deal, but it's a deal.

I go to UO.COM almost every day and every weekend and there have been some but never every weekend.  Yes there is a problem with UO Forum and google and google admitted it is there problem and IMHO google sees it as a very low priority.

I have no idea what you're talking about with Google.  When Youtube started combating adblockers I changed from Chrome to Firefox.  I don't have issues on the forum.  I have to log in everyday, once.  But I understand that's their way of proactively allowing subscribers only to post. 

If you're trying to change this topic to the log in issue, then yes, I do think that's within Broadsword's control.  You don't see people complaining on other websites about the issue.  Broadsword went with obviously out of the box server software.  The log in cookies and how Chrome reads it may be broken for their specific software, but I bet there's a patch out there for it unless this is truly just a basic forum server software.

But, back on topic, the main website has definitely been down every weekend I've been back. The forum has been fine.

Feigr said:The forum has been fine.

It's an issue with Chromium based browsers and the vanilla forum software. Yes, everyone is logged out every 24 hours but when logging it doesn't stick and you have to try to log in sometimes 100's of times to get it to 'stick'. Other posters say it's a Google issue... well, I am waiting to see where Google has admitted it's their problem that only seems to affect the uo forums. Any posters have a source for that? Didn't think so.

"nearly two-thirds of the global population uses Chrome to browse the internet." Considering Chrome is one of their biggest products I highly doubt they'd let that slide for that long. 

The specific forum error can be found in another one of my posts. Googling that issue shows people with the errors as far back as 2015, so clearly nothing new as other posters have claimed (SHOCKER). The solution, as stated by other users of the forum software, they say is basically 1 of 2 things: it's a setup issue with server side authentication (<<< PROBABLY THE PROBLEM RIGHT HERE HELLO!) or the forum software needs updating. No idea if those are actually the solutions in uo's case. However, I am able to find several other games/forums that use the same forum software and there are no mentions of login issues, again leading me to believe it's something on UO.com's setup. 



I will leave everyone with this bit of information:

Almost everything in UO is fixable: website downtime, forum login, vendor search, 'the clients', etc. so if it's not fixed it's either:

• They are ignoring it and/or don't want to fix it -> NL before everything else
• Their team doesn't know how to fix it -> can be fixed but current staff doesn't know how to 

Sad state either way.

If you are not having fun then you should move along

Have yall not seen what available on Steam!?

UO does not have an end nor do you run out of things to accomplish.

I can't buy Diablo 4 because I know I would spend at least 2 years on that and nothing else.

Pawain said:

I can't buy Diablo 4 because I know I would spend at least 2 years on that and nothing else.

CovenantX said:

Pawain said:

I can't buy Diablo 4 because I know I would spend at least 2 years on that and nothing else.

   idk, Diablo 4 was quite disappointing imo...  for a game that had 2 expansions in development before the base-game was even released it wasn't even as good as D3.   it can be turned around, the main issue with it is that the end-game is non-existent.... pretty boring from levels 80-100 (100 is the current cap)         -the beta tests where the level caps were 20 & 15 (ircc) were more fun than the full release, so far anyway.        surely that'll actually be fixed though.

I was bored of Diablo 4 before level 5 the game just wasn't fun. 

It's got a good story and a single playthrough is worth it.  IMO it's just like Diablo 3.  A bunch of people vocal about the bad things, and righteously, but a core group that enjoy it keeping it going.  It also sold really well even though a lot of people said they didn't like it.

It's down again if anyone is bothering to keep count.  But, at this point it feels like bullying to keep bringing it up.

Feigr said:

It's down again if anyone is bothering to keep count.  But, at this point it feels like bullying to keep bringing it up.

You beat me to it. Just sat down for the evening and ...



"This is a crock of BULLCRAP.  The poster just loves to greatly exaggerate everything to try and prove a point and bash UO."

Prove a point we have. We really don't even need to bash UO, it does it to itself.

@Lord_Frodo ??????????????????????????

I'm not one to normally entertain conspiracy theories, but has anyone else considered that the web site only ever goes down outside of normal working hours. Does it occur to anyone but me that something, or someone is taking it down?

Oreogl said:

shootgun said:

Grimbeard said:

It's also the attitude of the forum anyone with an issue is immediately attacked and the issue dismissed 

This!!!

Coming here with a legitimate issue, a real issue that is effecting your game play, will immediately make you the target of 3 accounts that do not contribute anything to any thread but just attack the poster. They wont even have a valid point 99% of the time.

Bonnie was a dumb person to bet all of her chips on NL. NL was a stupid decision no matter how you look at it. Nobody asked for it. Nobody wanted it.

I and pretty much every single person in my guild, would much rather have the devs fix know bugs/exploits rather than work on NL. 

- Freeze the development on NL. 

- Focus on fixing and improving the current production shards for a half year.

- Take action against blatant exploit users and multiboxers.

- Provision faster servers for the VS DB and event areas.

For f**ks sake, do these and you will have my total approval. But, this won't be done. Because bonnie is single handedly the dumbest and the worst product manager I have ever seen in my whole life.

@ Victim_Of_Siege that bet still good?

What's your over/under? 

Victim_Of_Siege said:

What's your over/under? 

I'd say about....... tree fiddy?

web site fixed.

keven2002 said:

Victim_Of_Siege said:

What's your over/under? 

I'd say about....... tree fiddy?

Petra_Fyde said:

I'm not one to normally entertain conspiracy theories, but has anyone else considered that the web site only ever goes down outside of normal working hours. Does it occur to anyone but me that something, or someone is taking it down?

I believe it was said at a M&G some time ago that it has to be manually reset. If that's the case it would explain why it only is fixed during weekday working hours, sometimes on weekends in the afternoon. 

As to why it goes down? Nobody knows on these forums anyways but I doubt it's being attacked or something malicious. Given the track record of our glorious leaders I'd guess ignorance/negligence.

username said:

As to why it goes down? Nobody knows on these forums anyways but I doubt it's being attacked or something malicious. Given the track record of our glorious leaders I'd guess ignorance/negligence.

If I had to guess - the issue is probably on the domain's side; just like the issue with logging into these forums in Chrome is obviously on Chrome's side. Both the domain and Chrome need to make fixes on their end to accommodate UO; definitely not the other way around.

Petra_Fyde said:

I'm not one to normally entertain conspiracy theories, but has anyone else considered that the web site only ever goes down outside of normal working hours. Does it occur to anyone but me that something, or someone is taking it down?

It's not a DDOS attack.  It's a Database issue.  You can see the error if you know how.  I'll post it next time.

Error establishing a database connection

Error is only up for a few minutes.  I couldn't get more details after all.