Jerk unattended Macroing under my house sign HELP!

Like the title says.  As per HRH Mesanna's edict the house owner can be held responsible if someone is unattended macroing/scripting at or in you house!  I'm the house owner on the steps! HELP PLEASE!
 

Page a GM.  They will actually action that if they do not answer,

They are not in your house.  The page will confirm you tried.

They seem close enough to put on your ban list if you are so inclined.

What exactly are they doing?  Standing afk is not against the rules. 

They're casting a spell I see blue-black dots in regular intervals, however the sound and the power words are turned off.

Okay after getting on my mage, samurai, spellweaver, and Necromancer.  I can confirm it was a Necro spell - corpse skin. 

If they are unattended they will get hit.  I have no idea how to turn the spell words off in CC.

There is something which I am having a hard time to understand...

Even if a character is found doing unattended macroing/scripting " in " that house, how could the House owner be considered responsible when the character doing it could be a friended or co-owned, separate account doing it, without the House owner knowing it... or, even more, the House could be a Public one where any other account, unless banned from the House, can enter it...

Hence, I would imagine, not necessarily a House owner should be considered responsible no matter what... if another account is doing something not legal for the game rules inside that House...

And I do not understand even more, how a House owner could likewise be held responsible if a character, perhaps not even friended or co-owned to that House, is doing unattended macroing/scripting " at " that house, near it, but not inside.

I mean, players are not logged 24/7 and they might not log in their account for days, weeks.... so, how could they be expected to monitor their house and surroundings for characters eventually doing unattended macroing/scripting " at ", " near " that house or even inside their House ?

Not to mention, how this could open the way to a whole lot of griefing.... imagine a UO player wanting to get another player into trouble, they get an EJ character totally unlinked to their main account, get into a Public House or near a Private House and start macroing unattended non stop to get that House owner into trouble ?

Seriously ?

This is something which I really do not understand and it surprises me a whole lot to read that House owners could be considered responsible for someone else's doing in or near their House simply because they own that house in the game.

Ban them if you can, page on them, and worry no more.

He is NOT under you house sign, he is in front of your house.  Use your post here to prove you do not approve of this and page a GM.  There are people who do this all the time on Baja in front of JINX's house (south side) and JINX has not lost his house.

People here can't help. A GM can. Page one.

Mariah, patience of a saint

I bet a certain person involved in this topic would demand helps here instead of calling the police if someone was breaking into (her) house

 😂 

I'm guessing that this is like the car owner is responsible for traffic tickets. Avoids the whole "but I wasn't the driver officer" argument.

First, Id like to say I wasnt unattended Macroing.

Second. It was the Taming Mastery spell that was still active on my character from the spawn I just recalled in from, sorry I didnt move my character from the safe spot I recalled into. I had to pick my son up from wrestling. Didnt log out because I intended to come back shortly after I picked him up. 
 
Third, Im not under your sign. You also left out the part where you released animals and had them target me and killed me in "Tram." Nice move. I hadnt thought of it. Lost some decent stuff. My fault. 

I recalled in to the same spot ive had marked since LUNA became a thing. I didnt realize you owned that particular spot. I was doing NOTHING malicious. 

Seems like luring to me

Always 2 sides to every story. And it usually ends up as someone harassing an innocent player they think is up to no good. Blue dots at intervals is consume.

100% was consume. I was training the Red CU, kid called to pick him up, so I recalled to a safe spot (the first one in my rune book) and went got him.

Now Im a jerk that was macroing in front of her house? Made me laugh. 

Omnicron said:

100% was consume. I was training the Red CU, kid called to pick him up, so I recalled to a safe spot (the first one in my rune book) and went got him.

Now Im a jerk that was macroing in front of her house? Made me laugh. 

I guess this means your account was not actioned.  Thats good. GMs are smarter than players.
And probably real busy with BS like this.

 🙂 

  this hole thread ! 

Nope. I am currently logged on sitting under her sign. 

Skett said:

  this hole thread ! 

Someone has apparently released some farm animals at that spot named after someone. 

 😂 

Wow, thats rude!

Page on her for harassment and luring.  Notice she never put in her complaint (here and stratics) that she lured pets on you.

Mariah said:

People here can't help. A GM can. Page one.

Access your journal find where she released pets and she'll catch a ban

Lord_Frodo said:

Page on her for harassment and luring.  Notice she never put in her complaint (here and stratics) that she lured pets on you.

I didnt see her post on stratics. Is in the Uhall? 

Omnicron said:

Lord_Frodo said:

Page on her for harassment and luring.  Notice she never put in her complaint (here and stratics) that she lured pets on you.

I didnt see her post on stratics. Is in the Uhall? 

It mysteriously disappeared.

It was removed from uhall or moved maybe ? 

Grimbeard said:

Access your journal find where she released pets and she'll catch a ban

Nah. She already used some BS to waste a page lol She just thought she was doing the peoples work!

I do that sort of macroing when learning a casting skill.  Can see where having someone macroing in front of my house for several days could be aggravating.  With EC don’t think you can just turn macroing on and off.  You are limited to repeating a macro 10 times.  That looks like a legal spot to me.  Not sure how a player would know it is not.  Anyway, if you have a house, just stand on your roof, that’s what I do.  Game requires players wanting to have a vendor to make their house public so don’t  think having someone the player does not know doing macroing in the house should be an automatic ban.  Think that rule is in place to prevent players that cheat from training let’s say 8 bots at the same time behind closed doors in the same house.  Think using judgement should be a part of ban enforcement for macroing.

Arnold7 said:

I do that sort of macroing when learning a casting skill.  Can see where having someone macroing in front of my house for several days could be aggravating.  With EC don’t think you can just turn macroing on and off.  You are limited to repeating a macro 10 times.  That looks like a legal spot to me.  Not sure how a player would know it is not.  Anyway, if you have a house, just stand on your roof, that’s what I do.  Game requires players wanting to have a vendor to make their house public so don’t  think having someone the player does not know doing macroing in the house should be an automatic ban.  Think that rule is in place to prevent players that cheat from training let’s say 8 bots at the same time behind closed doors in the same house.  Think using judgement should be a part of ban enforcement for macroing.

Ahhh if I had been doing it a couple days (and again it wasnt unattended macroing,) I could understand her frustration. At most it was an hour or two my consume damage spell tickin away. Since its in a high traffic area, I also didnt lose connection.  

STRAIGHT UP, I did not release ANY pets. 

 I DID lure a Crystal Elemental, let it beat you, healed/cured you in the hopes of getting your
attention and finally let it kill you.  

YOU WERE casting a spell I have only been playing  - TWENTY TWO YEARS! 

Please pull the other one. 

 Yes I paged on you!
 
You knew damn well the GMs went home at 5 EST. 

As far as you had to pick up your kid, I would have let you log out in my house or upstairs Luna
bank is steps away.

FYI, I missed the event and got in game at 8:30 CST  - That's 9:30 EST!  

I killed you at MIDNIGHT CST!   That's 1 AM EST. 

Look I am touchy about my Library after a group of angry Equus Asinus blocked the front and sides of my library with their guild, pets, and random garbage.

Why, because I banned one of their members for UMing in my library.  So they decided I "didn't DESERVE to own the library" because I was willing to ban people. 

Yes, HRH Mesanna did clarify it, but then right after that a hyper active GM with a burr under his saddle banned a house owner. 

If I have learned anything in life - CYA, protect yourself cause ain't no else gonna do it!

1. In UO - NEVER trust the GMs because they enforce/interpret the rules extremely subjectively.

       2.  NEVER carry anything you can't afford to lose/replace.

       3.  Insurance is your FRIEND - use it!

That's my story  AND I AM STICKING TO IT!

Luc_of_Legends said:

STRAIGHT UP, I did not release ANY pets. 

 I DID lure a Crystal Elemental, let it beat you, healed/cured you in the hopes of getting your
attention and finally let it kill you.  

YOU WERE casting a spell I have only been playing  - TWENTY TWO YEARS! 

Please pull the other one. 

 Yes I paged on you!
 
You knew damn well the GMs went home at 5 EST. 

As far as you had to pick up your kid, I would have let you log out in my house or upstairs Luna
bank is steps away.

FYI, I missed the event and got in game at 8:30 CST  - That's 9:30 EST!  

I killed you at MIDNIGHT CST!   That's 1 AM EST. 

Look I am touchy about my Library after a group of angry Equus Asinus blocked the front and sides of my library with their guild, pets, and random garbage.

Why, because I banned one of their members for UMing in my library.  So they decided I "didn't DESERVE to own the library" because I was willing to ban people. 

Yes, HRH Mesanna did clarify it, but then right after that a hyper active GM with a burr under his saddle banned a house owner. 

If I have learned anything in life - CYA, protect yourself cause ain't no else gonna do it!

1. In UO - NEVER trust the GMs because they enforce/interpret the rules extremely subjectively.

       2.  NEVER carry anything you can't afford to lose/replace.

       3.  Insurance is your FRIEND - use it!

That's my story  AND I AM STICKING TO IT!

Here is the confession let the ban hammer fall

Glad you admited to luring. I mispoke about the releasing of pets. Seems in your book, two wrongs DO make a right. 

Weve established I was using "Consume Damage" and that was the spell you saw. Funny thing about CD, if you mount your pet, it still ticks away! Im sure you knew that after 22 years of playing. 

Why would I be  concerned about the GMs going home at 5 est? I wasnt macroing. I wasnt doing anything remotely illegal, except standing in Luna, in front of some randoms house. Didnt realize that would upset you. 

I dont need to log out in your house. I have my own castles/houses I could haved logged out in. But I recalled to Luna and left because I was in a hurry. I am sorry I didnt turn my game off. I didnt think it would be a problem lol as I wasnt doing anything. Weve also established, youre in an area that gets more traffic so I didnt autolog. 

I dont give a shit about the loot I lost. Like I said, my bad for not banking it.  

You have a severe disdain for Mesanna and the GMs apparently lol. I dont get it.

Look, at the end of the day, you arent as important as you think you are. Im sorry I ruffled your feathers by minding my own business in a public area of a MMO. Next time I go out to do soemthing in Ultima, I'll make sure I get your blessings first. 

-Omni 

Funny how consume has the same effect that was described by the OP.  And lets see a Tamer using consume at an event and leaving it on?  Happens all the time.

Add this to your list of things to learn: Learn what sparkles spells make before accusing other players of nefarious things.



Corpse Skin makes GREEN Sparkles.   BUSTED

Luc_of_Legends said:
They're casting a spell I see blue-black dots in regular intervals, however the sound and the power words are turned off.

Luc_of_Legends said:

Okay after getting on my mage, samurai, spellweaver, and Necromancer.  I can confirm it was a Necro spell - corpse skin. 

Close this thread that is infested with Lies. Please @Mariah

Pawain may just be one of my favorite people ever!

In our next episode, Luc pages on Bards who leave their Spell songs on while standing in Luna.

Pawain said:

In our next episode, Luc pages on Bards who leave their Spell songs on while standing in Luna.

Oh crap, I left my bard outside of her house! 

What a clown. Paging on people standing in public, acting like she was MAKING UO GREAT AGAIN.

Luc_of_Legends said:

STRAIGHT UP, I did not release ANY pets. 

 I DID lure a Crystal Elemental, let it beat you, healed/cured you in the hopes of getting your
attention and finally let it kill you.  

YOU WERE casting a spell I have only been playing  - TWENTY TWO YEARS! 

Please pull the other one. 

 Yes I paged on you!
 
You knew damn well the GMs went home at 5 EST. 

As far as you had to pick up your kid, I would have let you log out in my house or upstairs Luna
bank is steps away.

FYI, I missed the event and got in game at 8:30 CST  - That's 9:30 EST!  

I killed you at MIDNIGHT CST!   That's 1 AM EST. 

Look I am touchy about my Library after a group of angry Equus Asinus blocked the front and sides of my library with their guild, pets, and random garbage.

Why, because I banned one of their members for UMing in my library.  So they decided I "didn't DESERVE to own the library" because I was willing to ban people. 

Yes, HRH Mesanna did clarify it, but then right after that a hyper active GM with a burr under his saddle banned a house owner. 

If I have learned anything in life - CYA, protect yourself cause ain't no else gonna do it!

1. In UO - NEVER trust the GMs because they enforce/interpret the rules extremely subjectively.

       2.  NEVER carry anything you can't afford to lose/replace.

       3.  Insurance is your FRIEND - use it!

That's my story  AND I AM STICKING TO IT!

Ban.

Oreogl said:

Ban.

Grimbeard said:

Here is the confession let the ban hammer fall

Fine I'll delete my CC info and let all EIGHT PAID ACCTS  FALL!  

I am sooooooooo sure UO is just so FULL of paid subscriptions my paltry 103.92  a month

 doesn't mean squat and will not be missed.

Oh wait isn't this the same UO where I had numerous people say to me:

"OMG you still actually PAY for UO?  I haven't PAID for my accounts in YEARS as I trade gold for gametime."  

Obviously this game was misnamed should have been CHEATERS ONLINE.  
 

How is buying things with Gold cheating?  You are sure deflecting hard.  Just admit you were wrong and paged on an innocent player.

Luc_of_Legends said:

Oreogl said:

Ban.

Grimbeard said:

Here is the confession let the ban hammer fall

Fine I'll delete my CC info and let all EIGHT PAID ACCTS  FALL!  

I am sooooooooo sure UO is just so FULL of paid subscriptions my paltry 103.92  a month

 doesn't mean squat and will not be missed.

Oh wait isn't this the same UO where I had numerous people say to me:

"OMG you still actually PAY for UO?  I haven't PAID for my accounts in YEARS as I trade gold for gametime."  

Obviously this game was misnamed should have been CHEATERS ONLINE.  
 

22 years and you still fall for the easy wind ups 

I have lost count of how many times you promise to leave us 

and you finally admit to illegal activities 

people have busy lives and this is an escape from that reality, no one cares about your drama or your sis, we have enough to deal with on our own

play the game or don’t. 

JackFlashUk said:

Luc_of_Legends said:

Oreogl said:

Ban.

Grimbeard said:

Here is the confession let the ban hammer fall

Fine I'll delete my CC info and let all EIGHT PAID ACCTS  FALL!  

I am sooooooooo sure UO is just so FULL of paid subscriptions my paltry 103.92  a month

 doesn't mean squat and will not be missed.

Oh wait isn't this the same UO where I had numerous people say to me:

"OMG you still actually PAY for UO?  I haven't PAID for my accounts in YEARS as I trade gold for gametime."  

Obviously this game was misnamed should have been CHEATERS ONLINE.  
 

22 years and you still fall for the easy wind ups 

I have lost count of how many times you promise to leave us 

and you finally admit to illegal activities 

people have busy lives and this is an escape from that reality, no one cares about your drama or your sis, we have enough to deal with on our own

play the game or don’t. 

And as for dev help, you burned that bridge many years ago 

Well said...

OK. Thanks for the thread and all the feedback. It is over now.