PVP balance suggestion

Foos 2024-01-23 19:27 #0

Currently in PVP there is nothing stopping a player from clicking an explosion potion, hitting esc and repeating that 3 more times to have 4 potions in their pack, running next to another player and hitting evade doing anywhere from 35 to 120 damage to that player while taking little to no damage themselves. The player being targeted has no idea this has occurred because there is no visible indicator.

Possible solutions

- Put a timer on explosion potions

or
- Adjust so you cannot evade explosion potions going off in your pack. (Or at all)

Skett 2024-01-23 20:42 #1

im going to try this

Mariah 2024-01-24 08:52 #2

Annd that's why you shouldn't post exploits on a public forum!

CovenantX 2024-01-25 03:55 #3

Mariah said:

Annd that's why you shouldn't post exploits on a public forum!

Yep, much better to keep the bugs/exploits to yourself so you and whoever you might have told about them can hold an unfair advantage over legit players... same strategy UO's taken forever, I don't see it changing (for the better)...ever.

Btw, At what point does a bug become a feature? cause just taking a quick glance over the bug section.... some of them have been posted since these forums opened and many of them were carried over from Stratics back when they were the 'official' forum for UO.

This explode potion use while other potion(s) are counting down, has been a thing forever, Let me guess, you don't want people to know about it so they don't do it themselves, the same way there's no "Discussion" of illegal clients, cheats etc.. as if the vast majority of players aren't already using them to begin with? /Sarcasm (partially)

UO's really becoming a joke when it comes to this. it's very sad to see.

Skett 2024-01-25 04:14 #4

I was being sarcastic jezzz

it’s almost as old as the drop $-r is

Mariah 2024-01-25 11:41 #5

CovenantX said:

Mariah said:

Annd that's why you shouldn't post exploits on a public forum!

   Yep, much better to keep the bugs/exploits to yourself so you and whoever you might have told about them can hold an unfair advantage over legit players... same strategy UO's taken forever, I don't see it changing (for the better)...ever.

Btw,   At what point does a bug become a feature? cause just taking a quick glance over the bug section.... some of them have been posted since these forums opened and many of them were carried over from Stratics back when they were the 'official' forum for UO.

This explode potion use while other potion(s) are counting down, has been a thing forever,   Let me guess, you don't want people to know about it so they don't do it themselves, the same way there's no "Discussion" of illegal clients, cheats etc.. as if the vast majority of players aren't already using them to begin with?   /Sarcasm (partially)

UO's really becoming a joke when it comes to this. it's very sad to see.

No, actually, the thing to do when you discover an exploit is to report it as a bug and mark the bug report as an exploit.

Rule 9 of the terms of service listed at the foot of the page:

No Posting In Breach Of Games’ Terms of Service - You must not post, or link to materials that are, in breach of the games’ Terms of Service. This includes, but is not limited to:

Advertisement or promotion of unofficial servers.
Information on exploits of bugs in sufficient detail to allow others to perform said exploit.
Cash sales of in game items.

Grimbeard 2024-01-25 14:05 #6

If we better communication from the developers on bug reports maybe people would report...

sibble 2024-01-25 18:23 #7

There's a fine line between exploit and clever usage of game mechanics.

When I hear "expoit" I think of it as someone taking advantage of a software flaw. When someone is caught "exploiting" I would expect some type of consequences should be done to the user.

In this case, we have a player not breaking any rules and cleverly stacking up explosion damage while using evasion to negate the self inflicted damage. That's just an oversight on development - which I can't blame anyone really because look how long it took for this to be an actual issue brought up to the forums.

Whatever way it's handled I don't believe players should be able to do this.

CovenantX 2024-01-25 19:22 #8

Mariah said:

CovenantX said:

Mariah said:

Annd that's why you shouldn't post exploits on a public forum!

   Yep, much better to keep the bugs/exploits to yourself so you and whoever you might have told about them can hold an unfair advantage over legit players... same strategy UO's taken forever, I don't see it changing (for the better)...ever.

Btw,   At what point does a bug become a feature? cause just taking a quick glance over the bug section.... some of them have been posted since these forums opened and many of them were carried over from Stratics back when they were the 'official' forum for UO.

This explode potion use while other potion(s) are counting down, has been a thing forever,   Let me guess, you don't want people to know about it so they don't do it themselves, the same way there's no "Discussion" of illegal clients, cheats etc.. as if the vast majority of players aren't already using them to begin with?   /Sarcasm (partially)

UO's really becoming a joke when it comes to this. it's very sad to see.

No, actually, the thing to do when you discover an exploit is to report it as a bug and mark the bug report as an exploit.
Rule 9 of the terms of service listed at the foot of the page:
No Posting In Breach Of Games’ Terms of Service - You must not post, or link to materials that are, in breach of the games’ Terms of Service. This includes, but is not limited to:
Advertisement or promotion of unofficial servers.
Information on exploits of bugs in sufficient detail to allow others to perform said exploit.
Cash sales of in game items.

I'm well aware of what you're 'supposed' to do with discovered exploits. I've reported numerous bugs over the last ~15 or so years between here and stratics.. I've basically lost interest, for the most part, There are people are freely using illegal clients and they're never suspended/banned for doing so despite the "Leader of UO" stating that those programs are detectable..

Half of the exploits (Not this particular one) aren't even able to be done without the use of third-party programs.. So, do the devs expect us (the ones who actually report bugs) to use third-party programs in order to get the information needed to fix said issue? or are the very very few people left expected to complain about it until we quit because there's nothing done to solve the problem?

Btw you could record a macro in UOAssist to do what the OP describes.

Lord_Frodo 2024-01-26 05:40 #9

I have a question. Is this with the legal CC or EC client or is this with all those no name clients and is this bug only with PvP

Pawain 2024-01-26 08:18 #10

Lord_Frodo said:

I have a question. Is this with the legal CC or EC client or is this with all those no name clients and is this bug only with PvP

That is how potions with timers work. The ones from Mel would do the same thing. I have had many blow up in my backpack when I didn't throw them or hit escape thinking they would cancel.

Crunch 2024-02-07 07:32 #11

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Constantine 2024-02-15 23:52 #12

a lot of these so-called "exploits" are easily countered. run shatter pots or disarm to get rid of those ridiculously op evasions. If you want to be good at pvp you have to break out of one dimensional templates. Dexxors have been OP since SE came out but everything has a work around. Tired of getting smashed by those lame mace gargs? blood oath and chug. Tired of kamakize alchys? carry shatter pots and remove their ability to evade with a disarm. Too many people come to the devs crying about fixes instead of utilizing the mechanics already available

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