HAHA as you can see they don’t want to face the fact that they don’t want to fix the issue of cheating. As they just closed my post. They are lazy and do nothing for the game to make it better. They take your money each month and sit back and do nothing. 

  

New king of closed threads

 😂 

13 characters in heartwood, trammel, Atlantic. You really think they give any craps? the answer is NO.

Wow thats pathetic!!! I guess they don’t care about botting. It looks like they run this game poorly. Also looks like they are very lazy and content on the income they get. 

How does someone control 13 characters at the same time?

Holumer said:

How does someone control 13 characters at the same time?

If they are doing the same thing at the same time it is known as multiboxing and there is illegal programs out there and is a bannable offence.  You can multi client as many clients as your system can handle as long as you have to go to each client one by one and do stuff.

username said:

13 characters in heartwood, trammel, Atlantic. You really think they give any craps? the answer is NO.

And you know for a 100% FACT they are multiboxing

Lord_Frodo said:

username said:

13 characters in heartwood, trammel, Atlantic. You really think they give any craps? the answer is NO.

And you know for a 100% FACT they are multiboxing

So would this being attended make it ok?

Grimbeard said:

Lord_Frodo said:

username said:

13 characters in heartwood, trammel, Atlantic. You really think they give any craps? the answer is NO.

And you know for a 100% FACT they are multiboxing

So would this being attended make it ok?

Is there a limit to how many paid accounts we can use?  I missed that memo.

Power gamers will always have more than normal players.

     When I returned now coming on 6 years this account, it was because I heard you could play free.  I relearned the game using EC and no extra expansions. To this day, I still cannot get the stink of the Jhelom bullpens off my boots, but I can say I never botted. you get the tally and the proper jewels, and take advantage of Power hours, yes they still exist.
      My original account I have an old miner smith and can draw my lineage from the first 5 to GM smithing. No pinks, no blues, no bods, no fire beetles. I can claim to have repaired silver vanquishing Katanas and my Lord title to this day is maintained by hunting. 
      I was the smith to what are now the oldest and largest guild on the shard before they even had a smith.  I taught smiths who have passed and are legendary and their passing marked with memorials, which end of the shovel to hold.
      Now I can prove none of this, because the truly old smiths had one style of mark on their armor. Today in the time it took to write this, another could take my name, use a mythic token, jewels, pinks and blues and have a set of Lord Mordin Rockbiter armor waiting on my doorstep. I know my first set of GM  Iron plate no one would even consider wearing, but it was valuable to me, my badge and no one could replicate it. and all gone, nerfed to make one uniform mark.  

username said:

13 characters in heartwood, trammel, Atlantic. You really think they give any craps? the answer is NO.

Would be a real shame if someone released a dimetrosaur and attacked it until it poison breathed.

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Lord_Frodo said:

username said:

13 characters in heartwood, trammel, Atlantic. You really think they give any craps? the answer is NO.

And you know for a 100% FACT they are multiboxing

So would this being attended make it ok?

Is there a limit to how many paid accounts we can use?  I missed that memo.

Power gamers will always have more than normal players.

Once again you fail to understand that multiboxing is illegal - regardless of how many paid accounts or if someone is actually there. Yes we know "computers can do stuff" but it becomes illegal when the computer is controlling all 10+ accounts at the same time without a human needing to do anything.

I'm assuming once the toon runs out of resources they go get more and come back. There is no legal macro that automatically goes to the bank (or wherever) to get more resources; let alone for multiple accounts at the same time. People have said this happens 20+ hours a day for days on end. Trying to argue that this is a "power gamer" is just being overtly obtuse. 

I'm not sure what the GMs do to "test" the accounts. Without being able to track IP addresses etc I don't know if a GM would be able to determine someone is multiboxing if their script is good OR if the person is at the keyboard because the GM is only one person to pull away accounts or question them. In this instance though for runics where getting a runic I believe is random, I don't really see it how it hurts anyone other than the scripter having a bunch of runics they can sell.

Multi-Boxer: Ability to use 1 software to control 10 accounts on 1 computer.

Monster: Ability to use 10 hands to control 10 accounts on 10 computers.

Either way, both are cheaters.

keven2002 said:

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Lord_Frodo said:

username said:

13 characters in heartwood, trammel, Atlantic. You really think they give any craps? the answer is NO.

And you know for a 100% FACT they are multiboxing

So would this being attended make it ok?

Is there a limit to how many paid accounts we can use?  I missed that memo.

Power gamers will always have more than normal players.

Once again you fail to understand that multiboxing is illegal - regardless of how many paid accounts or if someone is actually there. Yes we know "computers can do stuff" but it becomes illegal when the computer is controlling all 10+ accounts at the same time without a human needing to do anything.

I'm assuming once the toon runs out of resources they go get more and come back. There is no legal macro that automatically goes to the bank (or wherever) to get more resources; let alone for multiple accounts at the same time. People have said this happens 20+ hours a day for days on end. Trying to argue that this is a "power gamer" is just being overtly obtuse. 

I'm not sure what the GMs do to "test" the accounts. Without being able to track IP addresses etc I don't know if a GM would be able to determine someone is multiboxing if their script is good OR if the person is at the keyboard because the GM is only one person to pull away accounts or question them. In this instance though for runics where getting a runic I believe is random, I don't really see it how it hurts anyone other than the scripter having a bunch of runics they can sell.

While it’s likely splitting hairs, I think the distinction is important.  I highly doubt these bots are multi boxing.  Much more likely they are multi clienting with a crafting/rail script running separately for each client.  Provided it’s monitored so a real person can pause and respond if a GM shows up, the GMs hands are probably tied.

Exactly. I do not fail to understand how powerful a computer is.

Simply limiting EJ accounts to haven would solve so many issues 

Grimbeard said:

Simply limiting EJ accounts to haven would solve so many issues 

If these were EJ accounts they would be banned.

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Simply limiting EJ accounts to haven would solve so many issues 

If these were EJ accounts they would be banned.

Which is an entirely different problem 

and now the acc mgmt is not working

Grimbeard said:

Simply limiting EJ accounts to haven would solve so many issues 

They should have lifted the expiration date on the Trial Accounts and we would not have all these problems with EJ Accounts.

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Simply limiting EJ accounts to haven would solve so many issues 

If these were EJ accounts they would be banned.

I doubt someone is paying for 13+ accounts to script in off-hours only. If they were paid they'd be going 24/7. I find it highly unlikely they're paid.

username said:

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Simply limiting EJ accounts to haven would solve so many issues 

If these were EJ accounts they would be banned.

I doubt someone is paying for 13+ accounts to script in off-hours only. If they were paid they'd be going 24/7. I find it highly unlikely they're paid.

It’s perfectly possible that these are paid accounts that are played during peak time and used to collect resources in the off hours.

This is true. But I still lean heavily they're EJs as they can do this task the same as any paid account can and they only do it off-hours because they know they'll be banned immediately by any gm that saw it.

username said:

This is true. But I still lean heavily they're EJs as they can do this task the same as any paid account can and they only do it off-hours because they know they'll be banned immediately by any gm that saw it.

What do you call off hours? I have paged a GM many times at 2 am Central and they came to fix whatever. 

Pawain said:

username said:

This is true. But I still lean heavily they're EJs as they can do this task the same as any paid account can and they only do it off-hours because they know they'll be banned immediately by any gm that saw it.

What do you call off hours? I have paged a GM many times at 2 am Central and they came to fix whatever. 

I don't know. I page often at 8,9,10pm and don't get a reply till the next morning at 7am. Sometimes I even have paged in the mornings 8,9,10am and won't get anything till 2-3pm. I haven't looked in to specifics, I could go check if you're really interested, but that late night/early morning hours is what I consider "off hours". 

So they do receive your pages and investigate. He answers the GM and the GM moves on.
They may even watch and wait until you leave the area to talk to them.

You never get the result of a ticket.  You knew that already.

Pawain said:

So they do receive your pages and investigate. He answers the GM and the GM moves on.
They may even watch and wait until you leave the area to talk to them.

You never get the result of a ticket.  You knew that already.

No, you are once again not reading what I am posting:

I am paging in the evening USA time and sometimes not getting a response till after 8-9am when they've logged off. In some instances, this is over 12 hours after when I paged. When you page a GM and they're working you get a response fairly fast, within 30 minutes. With this player they seem to know the GM schedule and purposely only bot on these 'off hours' when they know GMs aren't working.

Either way, EJs shouldn't be able to run repeatable quests with rewards like these ones in Heartwood. I have no idea whether these accounts are paid or EJ, I'm just saying in general.