2023-08-11 19:36
#0
Newsletter 8/23
Started by dvvid
· 2023-08-11
· 44 posts
· General Discussions
2023-08-11 19:51
#1
My take aways:
Our next TC1 M&G will be held on August 21st at 7pm ET in Castle Blackthorn
Our next phase of testing will begin soon - if you are interested in participating visit TC1 Britain Commons to enter the raffle stone.
Is that the Dojo?
In an effort to stop scripting we will make the next dungeon event at the Dojo so the scripters will be hampered by 20 players there doing the same thing!
😂
2023-08-11 19:52
#2
FYI character copy is working to TC1.
The raffle stone is not there yet, But many are there waiting for it. Amazing for a game that died 20 years and does a re death every month. 😂
The raffle stone is not there yet, But many are there waiting for it. Amazing for a game that died 20 years and does a re death every month. 😂
2023-08-11 19:59
#3
ooOOOoooooOoOOooooOo
2023-08-11 20:10
#4
I'm happy about the Valentine's Day clicky that is good through February 11, 2033....10 years from now...that's thinking ahead!
*waits patiently for the sign-up stone*
2023-08-11 20:53
#5
OooOO OoOo OOOoooSkett said:ooOOOoooooOoOOooooOo
2023-08-11 21:27
#6
Ooo ?
2023-08-12 00:46
#7
2023-08-12 01:23
#8
Short window. Don't miss it.
2023-08-12 01:25
#9
Oh yay another nontent TOT. I'm sure the players that use 3rd party clients that auto farm stuff and RMT will be thrilled, devaluing the stuff so much us regular players can't even sell the items to make a few GP.
Account bound rewards when?
Account bound rewards when?
2023-08-12 06:38
#10
I guess you do not remember UO pre Age of Shadows when every body wore GM made armor and weps. What are you thinking that is going to be allowed for you to bring back from NL once a year to the prodo shards. Talk about trying to tear *** down before you even know **** about it.username said:Oh yay another nontent TOT. I'm sure the players that use 3rd party clients that auto farm stuff and RMT will be thrilled, devaluing the stuff so much us regular players can't even sell the items to make a few GP.
Account bound rewards when?
2023-08-12 11:51
#11
This is Mesannas favorite thing toss a bone after months of neglect then watch us fight over petty stuff that might not happenusername said:You high or something? Wtf are you going on about? We've had plenty of ToTs to know what they're going to be like. I made zero comments on NL. Learn to read dumbass.Lord_Frodo said:I guess you do not remember UO pre Age of Shadows when every body wore GM made armor and weps. What are you thinking that is going to be allowed for you to bring back from NL once a year to the prodo shards. Talk about trying to tear shit down before you even know shit about it.username said:Oh yay another nontent TOT. I'm sure the players that use 3rd party clients that auto farm stuff and RMT will be thrilled, devaluing the stuff so much us regular players can't even sell the items to make a few GP.
Account bound rewards when?
2023-08-12 11:53
#12
Now if they make all the tokuno monsters somehow undead that'd be fun
2023-08-13 13:00
#13
I wish I could have bet money that username and McDougal would have 0 positive things to say and only complaints about a newsletter, upcoming events and beta signup for NL.
2023-08-13 13:13
#14
So we continue to suggest that expecting communication and accountability from the developers makes us negative?LilyGrace said:I wish I could have bet money that username and McDougal would have 0 positive things to say and only complaints about a newsletter, upcoming events and beta signup for NL.
2023-08-13 16:55
#15
When you keep doing it 30 seconds after they put out communication, YES.Grimbeard said:So we continue to suggest that expecting communication and accountability from the developers makes us negative?LilyGrace said:I wish I could have bet money that username and McDougal would have 0 positive things to say and only complaints about a newsletter, upcoming events and beta signup for NL.
2023-08-13 16:58
#16
I'm disappointed this is a short lived raffle stone. I used to get into these things because of a long dedicated history of alpha and beta testing Origin/EA products.
2023-08-13 17:01
#17
I gave honest truthful feedbackPawain said:When you keep doing it 30 seconds after they put out communication, YES.Grimbeard said:So we continue to suggest that expecting communication and accountability from the developers makes us negative?LilyGrace said:I wish I could have bet money that username and McDougal would have 0 positive things to say and only complaints about a newsletter, upcoming events and beta signup for NL.
2023-08-13 17:32
#18
😂
2023-08-14 11:15
#19
Per the newsletter, since it's now ok with Mesanna to purchase accounts, can we sell them here now? @Mariah
2023-08-14 11:20
#20
No, sorry. Still against ToS.
I could be wrong, but my understanding is more along the lines of accepting it has happened and trying to make it safer for the recipient than actually approving of the sales.
2023-08-14 11:39
#21
That’s such a copout. You don’t get to take stolen merchandise into the police department to have them validate it’s your now.Mariah said:No, sorry. Still against ToS.I could be wrong, but my understanding is more along the lines of accepting it has happened and trying to make it safer for the recipient than actually approving of the sales.
They are publicly declaring that they will validate the new owner. How could the transfer be against the ToS if they are transferring the ownership. I mean, we do have a bit of history of people talking out both sides of their mouth, but this is a real stretch.
2023-08-14 11:40
#22
Do we realize the insanity of this statement? Are illegal clients going to be handled the same? Dare i suggest some rapid response from the developers is neededMariah said:No, sorry. Still against ToS.I could be wrong, but my understanding is more along the lines of accepting it has happened and trying to make it safer for the recipient than actually approving of the sales.
2023-08-14 12:01
#23
I can only operate within the ToS of the forum, and rule 9 says 'no cash sales'.
2023-08-14 12:16
#24
Mariah said:I can only operate within the ToS of the forum, and rule 9 says 'no cash sales'.
I didn't mean to stir the pot. She made it look like it was legal now so thought i'd ask before i did it.
2023-08-14 12:49
#25
Based on the news letter it should probably be amended to “cash sales not supported”.Mariah said:I can only operate within the ToS of the forum, and rule 9 says 'no cash sales'.
2023-08-14 13:13
#26
Those two certainly go overboard, but even the average UO player is starting to get frustrated with the lack of communication. Do you believe this newsletter clarifies what is happening in UO after six months of silence?LilyGrace said:I wish I could have bet money that username and McDougal would have 0 positive things to say and only complaints about a newsletter, upcoming events and beta signup for NL.
1) Recap of the BBQ
2) Main topic of account transfer which hasn't even been brought up as a community topic
3) Vauge update regarding NL with no further information or details of what NL is other than a seasonal version of UO. For six months of work, there was no new information on what to expect
4) Actioned accounts for last month. I don't think this is anything but filler information, but if we provide it, where are the numbers for the entire last six months?
To be blunt, this was written by someone that viewed it as a chore to be done as quickly as possible and not a means of engaging.
2023-08-14 13:59
#27
It took years before i went overboard!Karyn said:Those two certainly go overboard, but even the average UO player is starting to get frustrated with the lack of communication. Do you believe this newsletter clarifies what is happening in UO after six months of silence?LilyGrace said:I wish I could have bet money that username and McDougal would have 0 positive things to say and only complaints about a newsletter, upcoming events and beta signup for NL.
1) Recap of the BBQ
2) Main topic of account transfer which hasn't even been brought up as a community topic
3) Vauge update regarding NL with no further information or details of what NL is other than a seasonal version of UO. For six months of work, there was no new information on what to expect
4) Actioned accounts for last month. I don't think this is anything but filler information, but if we provide it, where are the numbers for the entire last six months?
To be blunt, this was written by someone that viewed it as a chore to be done as quickly as possible and not a means of engaging.
2023-08-14 16:08
#28
2023-08-14 16:19
#29
Grimbeard said:It took years before i went overboard!
I completely get it because of my own incremental frustration with the lack of communication.
2023-08-14 17:35
#30
At least we got a name for a fall event. Treasures of the Feudal Lands. No real information about it at all, but a name . . .
2023-08-14 17:55
#31
You need more info? Lets see, you kill stuff in the designated area, get drops, turn the drops in for rewards. Like all the Dynamic Dungeons have been. When it is close to opening, you can see the drops on TC or Origin if you need a sneak peek.Stingard said:At least we got a name for a fall event. Treasures of the Feudal Lands. No real information about it at all, but a name . . .
2023-08-14 17:57
#32
I hope it's like the original tot where you can kill anythingPawain said:You need more info? Lets see, you kill stuff in the designated area, get drops, turn the drops in for rewards. Like all the Dynamic Dungeons have been. When it is close to opening, you can see the drops on TC or Origin if you need a sneak peek.Stingard said:At least we got a name for a fall event. Treasures of the Feudal Lands. No real information about it at all, but a name . . .
2023-08-14 18:07
#33
I don't, I hate that. It's a multiplayer game. We would all fit nicely in the Dojo.
2023-08-14 18:09
#34
Pawain said:You need more info? Lets see, you kill stuff in the designated area, get drops, turn the drops in for rewards. Like all the Dynamic Dungeons have been. When it is close to opening, you can see the drops on TC or Origin if you need a sneak peek.Stingard said:At least we got a name for a fall event. Treasures of the Feudal Lands. No real information about it at all, but a name . . .
Pawain, I know you are the unofficial, self-appointed, apologetic mouthpiece for the development team, but they could release real information like the rest of us in the software development world do when we announce a feature or future version. Its a very small ask.
All of the events haven't been the same. Caddelite weapons were required for Khaldun and Sorcerer's Dungeon had rotational rooms and bosses to defeat.
2023-08-14 18:41
#35
They are not going to give advance notice if you need things. No one in the software development world would do that. Gabby will have a thousand of whatever by day 2 of knowing.
Involving other templates would be nice.
Involving other templates would be nice.
2023-08-14 19:16
#36
Pawain said:They are not going to give advance notice if you need things. No one in the software development world would do that. Gabby will have a thousand of whatever by day 2 of knowing.
Involving other templates would be nice.
Everyone in the software development world who gives a poo about their customers does whatever they can to make their lives easier. They don't care that Gabby is a go-getter. The problem here is, with their business model, there are no large customers to hold the developers accountable.
All of the customers are a $10 a month transaction and seen as replaceable. If there were 30 million dollar contracts for data-center jobs with people like Google and Microsoft, they would crawl all over themselves to provide information or lose those contracts and be fired.
2023-08-14 19:22
#37
2023-08-14 19:41
#38
Diablo was new development and newer code bases are enormous compared to UO. Diablo also did live beta's a couple of months in advance of release. They didn't post to a test center a week out with no expectation of making changes unless there was a severe bug found.
Our product is far more complex. We have several hundred developers, but our sustaining department is 6-9 people, 2-3 of which are rotational off of the new development team. With those 9 we maintain hardware, software, and firmware including backwards compatibility to hardware built in 1991 and are often pulled into "new development via sustaining" projects.
We also deal with our share of Gabbys. Ours is just named Gary and he will always stress a new release in ways we never thought of during development. We added Gary to the Beta team and often give him advanced firmware releases and software patches.
Informing your customers can be done, and you can mitigate the Gabby's of the world too. The Khaldun caddelite event was a good example. They could let people know now that crafters will be important to the next event, and even show why, but not release the critical component, in this case caddelite ore, until the event releases. This allows existing and new players to get ready for the event without actually ruining the event.
A ton of things can be done like that with smart design, and they have shown that they could do it in the past with their existing team.
2023-08-15 11:03
#39
Stingard said:A ton of things can be done like that with smart design, and they have shown that they could do it in the past with their existing team.
@Stingard - Keep in mind that the Khuldan & Sorcerer events were pre dynamic events. Ever since dynamic events were introduced, it's been pretty cookie cutter on what to expect with the only exception being where/what (where it's located and what extra monsters we kill). Personally I don't mind the same old ToT style event but given how cookie cutter they are, I think we should get them at minimum twice a year but really more like 3-4 times.
That said, I get where you are coming from and I agree there seemed to be more variation coming from the Dev team in the past compared to now but supposedly we have NL to blame for that. Once again though I go back to running the same dynamic ToT a few times a year... they aren't reinventing the wheel to run these so it would give people some variation of where/what they hunt while giving a few new rewards each time. But here we are... not getting a new dynamic event until October which is 4 months from when the last one ended with absolutely nothing else different to do. The level of effort on Prod shards does seem to be at an all time low.
2023-08-15 14:00
#40
I agree. If they aren't adding new content, they can give us the cookie cutter events running in different places, or even reprise the old events like Khaldun, and Sorcerer"s. A person can only run Roof or Underwater so many times . .. . .keven2002 said:
Personally I don't mind the same old ToT style event but given how cookie cutter they are, I think we should get them at minimum twice a year but really more like 3-4 times.
2023-08-15 14:16
#41
Simply updating older items Simply removing doubloon cap simply adding new rewards to black market and monger quest or ostrich management...Stingard said:I agree. If they aren't adding new content, they can give us the cookie cutter events running in different places, or even reprise the old events like Khaldun, and Sorcerer"s. A person can only run Roof or Underwater so many times . .. . .keven2002 said:
Personally I don't mind the same old ToT style event but given how cookie cutter they are, I think we should get them at minimum twice a year but really more like 3-4 times.
2023-08-15 16:42
#42
It does all seem like low hanging fruit.Grimbeard said:.Simply updating older items Simply removing doubloon cap simply adding new rewards to black market and monger quest or ostrich management...
2023-08-17 12:50
#43
Simply updating the reward list is low hanging fruit, just a low res graphic and some specs and tada, its done in less than 24 hours.
