I think it's time for some sort of update from the Dev team...

I feel like it's a bit hard to justify radio silence from the Dev team at this point. We are a week away from August which means:

• We haven't had a newsletter in over 6 months
• We haven't had a M&G in... 4-5months? 
• The last "event" was a 4 hour (split into 2 sessions) single day event that was completed over 2 weeks ago that many people were unable to attend
• There was some (seemingly) random update made to house placements that skipped testing on TC1 and has very little information
• There is zero road map for production shards for the remainder of the year (we have more trail behind us now than ahead of us for 2023); Halloween & Christmas are assumptions not fact
• NL was supposed to be starting Alpha at this point but there hasn't been any update on that since the last newsletter (6 months ago)

Some people try to say there is so much negativity in UO / on the forum but this is a fine example of it coming from the complete lack of effort. I could see a counterargument if the Devs actually interacted with the players and gave semi-frequent updates (every few weeks or once a month) but that's nowhere near the case here. It's almost like the more the PAYING player base asks for some sort of communication (on anything) it makes the Dev team dig in and say even less. 

I don't think  we are asking for something unreasonable just to know the state of the game most of us enjoy(ed) playing for so many years. 

I'm tagging the only Dev member that posts here because the rest of them have long since stop coming here (Misk/Mesanna). @Kyronix - What's with the lack of communication / updates?

Maybe we should all email this message to Mesanna. I sent to both Mesanna and Bonnie @broadsword ;

I used to defend them but this is uncalled for. What really got me was Kryonix replying to his pic being posted but not a word game related. 

The only valid excuse now would be if every employee quit. 

A simple post every other month saying hey still here but busy AF would suffice for me. 

A lot of folks have given up. It's sad. 

CovenantX said:

This better be the biggest patch in UO history!    

-plz don't disappoint.

Biggest and Boldest.  Duh 

I would like to see uo developers doing more programming courses and personal development courses so they can actually develop a game and relate to people.

Maybe ban him again rather than lock every thread he craps in ?

Grimbeard said:

Maybe ban him again rather than lock every thread he craps in ?

Several players on these forums that just love to troll to infinity to get threads locked. Love how a few can break the forum rules to push their agenda constantly.

Troll is a word used by people that have no humanity.

keven2002 said:

I feel like it's a bit hard to justify radio silence from the Dev team at this point. We are a week away from August which means:

• We haven't had a newsletter in over 6 months
• We haven't had a M&G in... 4-5months? 
• The last "event" was a 4 hour (split into 2 sessions) single day event that was completed over 2 weeks ago that many people were unable to attend
• There was some (seemingly) random update made to house placements that skipped testing on TC1 and has very little information
• There is zero road map for production shards for the remainder of the year (we have more trail behind us now than ahead of us for 2023); Halloween & Christmas are assumptions not fact
• NL was supposed to be starting Alpha at this point but there hasn't been any update on that since the last newsletter (6 months ago)

Some people try to say there is so much negativity in UO / on the forum but this is a fine example of it coming from the complete lack of effort. I could see a counterargument if the Devs actually interacted with the players and gave semi-frequent updates (every few weeks or once a month) but that's nowhere near the case here. It's almost like the more the PAYING player base asks for some sort of communication (on anything) it makes the Dev team dig in and say even less. 

I don't think  we are asking for something unreasonable just to know the state of the game most of us enjoy(ed) playing for so many years. 

I'm tagging the only Dev member that posts here because the rest of them have long since stop coming here (Misk/Mesanna). @ Kyronix - What's with the lack of communication / updates?

The thing is, there's a reason these forums have turned into what they are. Honestly, it's not entirely the player base's fault. There is really a severe lack of communication coming from any developer, which is really uncalled for in 2023. I don't care if your game is 26 years old, or a couple of months old; live games that have constant changes and patches need to have updates. Especially since we were told there would be an alpha to a pretty big UO announcement half-way through this year.

At this point we can only assume that the developer truly do not care. At least that's what it looks like from our end. It's a shame because we all do truly love this game, why else would we still be playing it all of these decades later?

The last communication we had was so vague as to house placement. No other information regarding how long this timer is or any other details about it? Seriously, come on...

What bothers me the most is how anyone asking for communication or wanting the developers to be held accountable are instantly labeled as trolls or malcontents 

Grimbeard said:

What bothers me the most is how anyone asking for communication or wanting the developers to be held accountable are instantly labeled as trolls or malcontents 

I blame Pawain.

 😂 

Add to the list:

• The new Test Center 2 shard popping up without any word on what it's there for

** shakes the cage **

TELL US THE THINGS!!!!

 😂 

Communication,  even minimal and what we may not like is infinitely more appreciated than silence

It's been about 2 full weeks (2 business weeks at least) since I created this thread and still nothing from @Kyronix or the team (honestly he's the only person that even responds on here so I don't expect anything from anyone else). 

This is personally where my frustration comes from. The Devs remain silent on what players should expect and we have months of "downtime" (aka no new content) go by before we eventually get something "new" that a large percentage of players didn't want or care about. Even if just a few ideas are discussed from the boards (is it possible or not & why) it at least shows they are listening to the players. Instead they opt to give us silence which many take, including myself, as the Dev team simply ignoring the player's voices. Of course people are going to be negative when they feel neglected for a game we pay to play the content.

keven2002 said:

It's been about 2 full weeks (2 business weeks at least) since I created this thread and still nothing from @ Kyronix or the team (honestly he's the only person that even responds on here so I don't expect anything from anyone else). 

This is personally where my frustration comes from. The Devs remain silent on what players should expect and we have months of "downtime" (aka no new content) go by before we eventually get something "new" that a large percentage of players didn't want or care about. Even if just a few ideas are discussed from the boards (is it possible or not & why) it at least shows they are listening to the players. Instead they opt to give us silence which many take, including myself, as the Dev team simply ignoring the player's voices. Of course people are going to be negative when they feel neglected for a game we pay to play the content.

shit that in the scale of things doesn't matter. I think, we should all just adopt a less aggressive attitude.

SaulGoodman1 said:

100 percent wrong, I blamed the kid that fiddled me as a kid, do not blame the abuser, accept what is and move forward. Love, live, inspire, protect 

Oh STFU, WTF are you still posting on this forum when other better player are banned.

Seth said:

Sorry to say this but... the fault lies with the boss - Mesanna - lack of emphasis and guidance for the team to support the community forum. If the boss isn't interested in what the community thinks, none of the employees will care about what any of you write on this forum.

In your real life work, do any of you waste time on tasks that your boss doesn't give a S*?

So I don't blame on anyone except the leader of Ultima Online team.

I mean this is exactly the problem. The lack of communication has led to what this has all become. Honestly. If there was more transparency (like Broadsword claims as a mission statement) then some of these forum / UO issues will go away.

It's no wonder the free-shard experience feels like it's ahead of the official game. There are developers there that are very responsive and dedicated to their player-base.

MacroPlanet said:

It's no wonder the free-shard experience feels like it's ahead of the official game. 

Feels like? There's 1 that's left this one in the dust both in gameplay and workplace professionalism. 

If a freebie has had 2 updates this year, that's 1 more than what we've been paying for the past 8 months. 

Personally, i feel like a stooge to keep dropping cash with no updates, no words, not even the old empty promises of "we'll look into it". 

Urge said:

MacroPlanet said:

It's no wonder the free-shard experience feels like it's ahead of the official game. 

Feels like? There's 1 that's left this one in the dust both in gameplay and workplace professionalism. 

If a freebie has had 2 updates this year, that's 1 more than what we've been paying for the past 8 months. 

Personally, i feel like a stooge to keep dropping cash with no updates, no words, not even the old empty promises of "we'll look into it". 

I'm with you @Urge . It's been over 2 weeks since this thread has been created and we've kept it pretty civil I think; yet no response from the Dev team on anything. It's been over 2 months since the last dynamic event ended and even a month since the single day (4 hours) BBQ and there has been zilch.

Does anyone really think that's acceptable for a game we pay a monthly subscription for?

keven2002 said:

Urge said:

MacroPlanet said:

It's no wonder the free-shard experience feels like it's ahead of the official game. 

Feels like? There's 1 that's left this one in the dust both in gameplay and workplace professionalism. 

If a freebie has had 2 updates this year, that's 1 more than what we've been paying for the past 8 months. 

Personally, i feel like a stooge to keep dropping cash with no updates, no words, not even the old empty promises of "we'll look into it". 

I'm with you @ Urge . It's been over 2 weeks since this thread has been created and we've kept it pretty civil I think; yet no response from the Dev team on anything. It's been over 2 months since the last dynamic event ended and even a month since the single day (4 hours) BBQ and there has been zilch.

Does anyone really think that's acceptable for a game we pay a monthly subscription for?

Is a cryptic unannounced unusable TC2 not enough? 

Urge said:

MacroPlanet said:

It's no wonder the free-shard experience feels like it's ahead of the official game. 

Feels like? There's 1 that's left this one in the dust both in gameplay and workplace professionalism. 

If a freebie has had 2 updates this year, that's 1 more than what we've been paying for the past 8 months. 

Personally, i feel like a stooge to keep dropping cash with no updates, no words, not even the old empty promises of "we'll look into it". 

I know what you mean. Been thinking about it a lot this year, how all I'm really holding onto is a house. We—the players—are supporting this kind of treatment because we keep paying Broadsword no matter what happens. I'd much rather put the $13 a month towards a shard that actually cares about its player-base and even announced a large expansion coming this winter just recently.

It's truly a shame of what Broadsword has turned this game into. When Mythic took over the game awhile back I had so much hope for the future of this game. I really thought this year was going to be good for Official UO with the alpha of the New Legacy.

Who was I kidding?

MacroPlanet said:
$13 a month 

That's why a lot of players don't pay $13 a month anymore, it's more like $2-$3 a month 

MacroPlanet said:

I know what you mean. Been thinking about it a lot this year, how all I'm really holding onto is a house. We—the players—are supporting this kind of treatment because we keep paying Broadsword no matter what happens. I'd much rather put the $13 a month towards a shard that actually cares about its player-base and even announced a large expansion coming this winter just recently.

It's truly a shame of what Broadsword has turned this game into. When Mythic took over the game awhile back I had so much hope for the future of this game. I really thought this year was going to be good for Official UO with the alpha of the New Legacy.

Who was I kidding?

I hate the thought of starting from scratch but in the end it'll be better than playing the Official Ultima Online, Slum Edition.

But they better be glad i'm not skilled in making Youtubes or i'd for sure make a parody with the spam of RMT Chuck Norris and Avatar, showcase the multibox/bot farmers doing painted caves, dojo, and undoubtly heartwood now. Maybe top it off with the amazing new 20 min timeout waiting for my tool to work again so i can do a 2nd attempt of placing a house followed by crickets of waiting on a gm to respond. 

The journey in leveling is the best part of UO. That's kind of why I was once excited about New Legacy. 

Going on 3 business weeks without a single response from @Kyronix & team. Pretty sad state of affairs for the game when the Dev team seems to purposefully ignore their PAYING player base who really just want to know what is going on with our beloved game. 

Probably isn't going to do anything, but put this out on twitter. Just wanted to get the eyes of anyone. 

It is a very sad state of affairs. It's becoming very obvious the last couple of years how incompetent Broadsword is in handling this game.

Nice sentence structure, Garth will like that and the Avatar.

MacroPlanet said:

Probably isn't going to do anything, but put this out on twitter. Just wanted to get the eyes of anyone. 

https://twitter.com/ivghostix/status/1689668540461121536

It is a very sad state of affairs. It's becoming very obvious the last couple of years how incompetent Broadsword is in handling this game.

Make sure you email a copy to Mesanna 

MacroPlanet said:

Probably isn't going to do anything, but put this out on twitter. Just wanted to get the eyes of anyone. 

https://twitter.com/ivghostix/status/1689668540461121536

It is a very sad state of affairs. It's becoming very obvious the last couple of years how incompetent Broadsword is in handling this game.

creampie said:

MacroPlanet said:

Probably isn't going to do anything, but put this out on twitter. Just wanted to get the eyes of anyone. 

https://twitter.com/ivghostix/status/1689668540461121536

It is a very sad state of affairs. It's becoming very obvious the last couple of years how incompetent Broadsword is in handling this game.

terrible read....when you say we....you should say i .

you just won the award for troll of the year congrats

It's a well written piece that speaks for the majority of players 

EA is starting to shut down servers on older games, i cant see how UO is not on their list of games that will be getting the axe in the next year, you can tell the UO population is drastically decreasing just by logging onto atlantic during prime time, and the fact that a good part of the remaining UO population if very toxic, and the fact there has been no communication from the dev team at all is kinda of a clear sign that UO days are numbered, and those days are getting shorter, I sub 2 account myself but i refuse to cash for anything else related to UO, imagine paying 100 + cash for money, houses, rares what ever and next week UO gets shut down, ya no thanks.

Whitewolf said:

EA is starting to shut down servers on older games, i cant see how UO is not on their list of games that will be getting the axe in the next year, you can tell the UO population is drastically decreasing just by logging onto atlantic during prime time, and the fact that a good part of the remaining UO population if very toxic, and the fact there has been no communication from the dev team at all is kinda of a clear sign that UO days are numbered, and those days are getting shorter, I sub 2 account myself but i refuse to cash for anything else related to UO, imagine paying 100 + cash for money, houses, rares what ever and next week UO gets shut down, ya no thanks.

EA is no longer running UO, DAoC or Star wars they turned it over to Broadsword and we are not on EA servers.

Lord_Frodo said:

Whitewolf said:

EA is starting to shut down servers on older games, i cant see how UO is not on their list of games that will be getting the axe in the next year, you can tell the UO population is drastically decreasing just by logging onto atlantic during prime time, and the fact that a good part of the remaining UO population if very toxic, and the fact there has been no communication from the dev team at all is kinda of a clear sign that UO days are numbered, and those days are getting shorter, I sub 2 account myself but i refuse to cash for anything else related to UO, imagine paying 100 + cash for money, houses, rares what ever and next week UO gets shut down, ya no thanks.

EA is no longer running UO, DAoC or Star wars they turned it over to Broadsword and we are not on EA servers.

EA owns and provides the clients and servers for UO, they hired Broadsword to maintain and develop UO further. And so far Broadsword has been doin a stand up job at that.

Whitewolf said:

Lord_Frodo said:

Whitewolf said:

EA is starting to shut down servers on older games, i cant see how UO is not on their list of games that will be getting the axe in the next year, you can tell the UO population is drastically decreasing just by logging onto atlantic during prime time, and the fact that a good part of the remaining UO population if very toxic, and the fact there has been no communication from the dev team at all is kinda of a clear sign that UO days are numbered, and those days are getting shorter, I sub 2 account myself but i refuse to cash for anything else related to UO, imagine paying 100 + cash for money, houses, rares what ever and next week UO gets shut down, ya no thanks.

EA is no longer running UO, DAoC or Star wars they turned it over to Broadsword and we are not on EA servers.

EA owns and provides the clients and servers for UO, they hired Broadsword to maintain and develop UO further. And so far Broadsword has been doin a stand up job at that.

NO  The clients and servers are maintained by BS not EA.  EA still owns the copyrights to UO and DAoC and pays BS to do everything else.  Our servers are in the cloud now and I think they are owned by Google.  The clients are downloaded from UO.com and DAoC.com not EA.  If you are talking your account that is still through EA and paid to EA

Whitewolf said:

EA is starting to shut down servers on older games, i cant see how UO is not on their list of games that will be getting the axe in the next year, you can tell the UO population is drastically decreasing just by logging onto atlantic during prime time, and the fact that a good part of the remaining UO population if very toxic, and the fact there has been no communication from the dev team at all is kinda of a clear sign that UO days are numbered, and those days are getting shorter, I sub 2 account myself but i refuse to cash for anything else related to UO, imagine paying 100 + cash for money, houses, rares what ever and next week UO gets shut down, ya no thanks.

People have been saying UO is going to shut down for over a decade and up until this past year I never believed it. Unfortunately, I am starting to see several signs that it might be coming true in a not so distant future. 

I'm not sure what has happened this year but the Dev team has been almost completely absent. It's almost like they've made a conscious decision to send the game into a complete nose dive. This team has been around for years and had several good pieces of content, but over the past 8-9 months they've done a complete 180 and have acted like they've never done a project or had to interact with customers. Look at what we've seen / received over the past 9 months; 1 Newsletter / 1 dynamic event (that was 90% recycled) / 0 new rewards or items / 0 M&G?? / 0 updates on NL (what they are supposedly spending all their time on). People are begging for an update of some sort and yet they remain quiet. All it takes is a "sorry guys we hear you, but we are behind" and that would at least help keep some sort of illusion things aren't quite off the rails yet, but they haven't even done that.

At this point, it's hard for me not to say the end might be near. The only thing I see now is a money grab to squeeze whatever else they can get from the game before it goes under. Sad. 

keven2002 said:

Whitewolf said:

EA is starting to shut down servers on older games, i cant see how UO is not on their list of games that will be getting the axe in the next year, you can tell the UO population is drastically decreasing just by logging onto atlantic during prime time, and the fact that a good part of the remaining UO population if very toxic, and the fact there has been no communication from the dev team at all is kinda of a clear sign that UO days are numbered, and those days are getting shorter, I sub 2 account myself but i refuse to cash for anything else related to UO, imagine paying 100 + cash for money, houses, rares what ever and next week UO gets shut down, ya no thanks.

People have been saying UO is going to shut down for over a decade and up until this past year I never believed it. Unfortunately, I am starting to see several signs that it might be coming true in a not so distant future. 

I'm not sure what has happened this year but the Dev team has been almost completely absent. It's almost like they've made a conscious decision to send the game into a complete nose dive. This team has been around for years and had several good pieces of content, but over the past 8-9 months they've done a complete 180 and have acted like they've never done a project or had to interact with customers. Look at what we've seen / received over the past 9 months; 1 Newsletter / 1 dynamic event (that was 90% recycled) / 0 new rewards or items / 0 M&G?? / 0 updates on NL (what they are supposedly spending all their time on). People are begging for an update of some sort and yet they remain quiet. All it takes is a "sorry guys we hear you, but we are behind" and that would at least help keep some sort of illusion things aren't quite off the rails yet, but they haven't even done that.

At this point, it's hard for me not to say the end might be near. The only thing I see now is a money grab to squeeze whatever else they can get from the game before it goes under. Sad. 

It is fair to say that something is going on considering the last 8 to 9 months Broadsword has taken a backseat approach to everything. 

creampie said:

MacroPlanet said:

Probably isn't going to do anything, but put this out on twitter. Just wanted to get the eyes of anyone. 

https://twitter.com/ivghostix/status/1689668540461121536

It is a very sad state of affairs. It's becoming very obvious the last couple of years how incompetent Broadsword is in handling this game.

terrible read....when you say we....you should say i .

you just won the award for troll of the year congrats

No. No, I’m not trolling at all. 

I’ve said this before on here but shortly after I returned to uo several years ago, they posted this timeline of events for the year. They made an image for it even. I believe it was high seas/pirating related. It was so great to see that image and even better that everything shown on that image came to fruition and was fun. This made me excited about the game for the whole year basically. 

MacroPlanet said:

I’m concerned about one of my favorite games of all time. And I am obviously not alone in that feeling as these forums are in turmoil. The Ultima Online sub-Reddit rarely talks about official UO; that’s 10,000 people! It’s mostly about free shards.

I don’t see anything wrong with the letter. We’ve emailed the developers, we’ve complained on the forums and we have endured enough silence in the game that we pay monthly for. So the next step is to do something just so we are heard. 

No time to visit the forums when you've gone PT work from home

EMail Rob Denton at Broadsword
You could always make an account on Broadsword forum and see if they will help  https://www.darkageofcamelot.com/ and if you look at the top it says Broadsword (click) official forum

https://www.facebook.com/rob.denton.7165/friends  Here is Rob's FB

Im only 7 hours from there office if someone wants to give me some cream pies id be willing to deliver them 😂

  

https://mailchi.mp/broadsword/uo-newsletter-16?e=70ac293754

Jepeth said:

https://mailchi.mp/broadsword/uo-newsletter-16?e=70ac293754

I just hope they start communicating more often.

MinocMiner said:

MacroPlanet said:

I’m concerned about one of my favorite games of all time. And I am obviously not alone in that feeling as these forums are in turmoil. The Ultima Online sub-Reddit rarely talks about official UO; that’s 10,000 people! It’s mostly about free shards.

I don’t see anything wrong with the letter. We’ve emailed the developers, we’ve complained on the forums and we have endured enough silence in the game that we pay monthly for. So the next step is to do something just so we are heard. 

There is a reason no one talks about OSI on the UO subreddit. It is a cesspool of freeshard shills. Anytime official UO is mentioned, the thread gets filled with comments about "OSI is dead, come to X freeshard instead!", or nothing but posts about the "newest" and "best" freeshard that is being released, that will inevitably die in a month because no one played it, or it was corrupt or some other crap.

Remove all non OSI talk from the UltimaOnline subreddit and you may get actual discussion about retail UO back there. Force all the free shard stuff into their own subreddit, call it or UOFreeShard or something. A large issue with the community is that all these freeshards just blatantly steal the Ultima Online name for their product (even the "big" one that "everyone" plays on). It sows confusion when people search anything ultima online related.

The reason there are so many free shards in this game is because the official shard doesn't offer what players want. Players have been given the gift of classic shards or experiences that are beyond that of what the official shards currently offer. 

There are several thousand people that would be willing to drop cash on a new experience in UO or an official classic experience. That's why New Legacy has been hyped up so much.

Now the communication complaints wont start again until January.  I think that will be in @Mariah s dreams tonight.

But will they stop?  Only @Victim_Of_Siege can answer that question/

Thanks @Jepeth for the link.

Sneaky UO players will find everything before they are announced.

This is from the NEW Newsletter.
I also want to address a situation where UO players who have quit are giving their accounts to active players. If the original OWNER of the account does not reach out to us with their account information, we are unable to transfer ownership to someone else. On this note, I'd like to emphasize that if you receive an account from a friend or purchase one, your first step should be to contact us to change the secret word. This ensures that the account remains secure in your hands. Additionally, please ask us to add a note to the account specifying that it was transferred from a particular individual. This will prevent any confusion down the line.

Weren't we told it was illegal to give away or sell your account to anyone?

the newsletter nice !! acknowledgment of being checked out for 5 months would help mend fences.. you know that whole accountability thing... 

Pawain said:

Now the communication complaints wont start again until January.  I think that will be in @ Mariah s dreams tonight.

But will they stop?  Only @ Victim_Of_Siege can answer that question/

Thanks @ Jepeth for the link.

Sneaky UO players will find everything before they are announced.

Like a car with no brakes.

 😂

Memorable words from a sage. 

Lord_Frodo said:

This is from the NEW Newsletter.
I also want to address a situation where UO players who have quit are giving their accounts to active players. If the original OWNER of the account does not reach out to us with their account information, we are unable to transfer ownership to someone else. On this note, I'd like to emphasize that if you receive an account from a friend or purchase one, your first step should be to contact us to change the secret word. This ensures that the account remains secure in your hands. Additionally, please ask us to add a note to the account specifying that it was transferred from a particular individual. This will prevent any confusion down the line.

Weren't we told it was illegal to give away or sell your account to anyone?

Many years ago they told us to email Mesanna to give away accounts. I received one from a player. She did it very quickly. 

The giving party initiate's the email and the receiver will get a verification email from Mesanna.

RMT for accounts, never were allowed officially.

Pawain said:

Lord_Frodo said:

This is from the NEW Newsletter.
I also want to address a situation where UO players who have quit are giving their accounts to active players. If the original OWNER of the account does not reach out to us with their account information, we are unable to transfer ownership to someone else. On this note, I'd like to emphasize that if you receive an account from a friend or purchase one, your first step should be to contact us to change the secret word. This ensures that the account remains secure in your hands. Additionally, please ask us to add a note to the account specifying that it was transferred from a particular individual. This will prevent any confusion down the line.

Weren't we told it was illegal to give away or sell your account to anyone?

Many years ago they told us to email Mesanna to give away accounts. I received one from a player. She did it very quickly. 

The giving party initiate's the email and the receiver will get a verification email from Mesanna.

RMT for accounts, never were allowed officially.

Yes many years ago they had a program to xfer accounts then they stopped it.  This is from EA (the people that owns all of our accounts)

Sell, buy, share, trade or otherwise transfer or offer to transfer your EA Account, any personal access to EA Services, or any EA Content associated with your EA Account, including EA Virtual Currency and other Entitlements, either within an EA Service or on a third-party website, or in connection with any out-of-game transaction, unless expressly authorized by EA.

This is from Broadsword 

12. PROHIBITION ON ACCOUNT, CURRENCY AND ITEM TRANSFERS

Your Broadsword account is non-transferable. You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate your online currency or Broadsword User account for any item of value unless expressly permitted by Broadsword. Any attempted transfer of your account, whether for consideration or not, shall be null and void and shall cause your account to be terminated without compensation. Under no circumstances shall you allow or permit any other person or third party to use your account as a means to loan, lend, or lease your account usage. Your account is valid only for use by the person who registered it, without exception.

LOL I guess the boss lady changed the TOS

 

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

she specifically mentions if you purchase an account.

AtomicBetty said:

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

she specifically mentions if you purchase an account.

Giving away permanently is not a purchase.

Some players want their legacy live on thru others. Mesanna has a heart.

Pawain said:

AtomicBetty said:

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

she specifically mentions if you purchase an account.

Giving away permanently is not a purchase.

Some players want their legacy live on thru others. Mesanna has a heart.

set down your pom poms and read

Grimbeard said:

Pawain said:

AtomicBetty said:

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

she specifically mentions if you purchase an account.

Giving away permanently is not a purchase.

Some players want their legacy live on thru others. Mesanna has a heart.

set down your pom poms and read

Here is a new reward. If you put your spellbook strap in this magical Hyru skin backpack it will work properly!

 😂 😂  

@kyronix we need colors on the Hiryu Huntsmaster trophies please!

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Pawain said:

AtomicBetty said:

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

she specifically mentions if you purchase an account.

Giving away permanently is not a purchase.

Some players want their legacy live on thru others. Mesanna has a heart.

set down your pom poms and read

Here is a new reward. If you put your spellbook strap in this magical Hyru skin backpack it will work properly!

 😂 😂  

i will try it then complain for a year !

I hope we get pom poms and pies for the 26th anny gift !

Getting tired of seeing this discussion.  After 70 comments, maybe it’s time for an actual comment from a team member or maybe time to reveal where the comments can be found.  Not everyone knows where to look.  Pretty sure there have been some fairly recent comments but I don’t know where to look either.

It’s all so pitiful. 

AtomicBetty said:

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

she specifically mentions if you purchase an account.

I did not notice she said purchase in the Newsletter, I was just looking at Frodos rules.
I skipped to the good stuff.

So if I can sell my account, can I sell my Alpha pass if I get one?  

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

Your Broadsword account is non-transferable
I guess you do not understand what non-transferable means as per normal.

Pawain said:

AtomicBetty said:

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

she specifically mentions if you purchase an account.

I did not notice she said purchase in the Newsletter, I was just looking at Frodos rules.
I skipped to the good stuff.

So if I can sell my account, can I sell my Alpha pass if I get one?  

Those are EAs and Broadswords rules you idiot.  This was in the newsletter receive an account from a friend or purchase one and I even bolded it in my copy but we all know you do not read stuff before you comment

Pawain said:

AtomicBetty said:

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

she specifically mentions if you purchase an account.

I did not notice she said purchase in the Newsletter, I was just looking at Frodos rules.
I skipped to the good stuff.

So if I can sell my account, can I sell my Alpha pass if I get one?  

I'll trade you a couple of barely used memes and $3.50 for it.

😂

Lord_Frodo said:

Pawain said:

Give to is not the same as any of these:  
You may not sell, loan, lend, lease, barter, exchange, pledge, or hypothecate 

The original owner can not get the account back if you do it thru her. So it is a controlled transfer.

Your Broadsword account is non-transferable
I guess you do not understand what non-transferable means as per normal.

I guess you better tell that to Mesanna , she is the one you email to do it and she is the one who emails the second party to verify that you want it.

Was announced a long time ago that that was how to change account owners.  I guess they forgot to update that. Or Mariah was supposed to update it.    😂

And now they need to update that accounts can be purchased.  So, that wipes out all of those rules!