yes i understand if you want to RNG for 120 scrolls you gotta take the risk and go to fel dungeons-- thing is though it should evaluate who did what and credit them the scrolls for the final act, not some seedy pondscum pk to take all.
Getting killed there by a pk is a nobrainer but losing all your hard work is just dumb and a flawed business model that has probably paved the way for many account exits.
Most of us dont pvp and couldnt care less if they disapeared from uo.
make it fair to the honest hard workers, else youre just a bunch of knuckleheads catering to the sleaze side of things, as devs.
yes, you can argue its always been a part of the game and tough-titties and such, but you could also argue that some scrolls are worth more than the most expensive custom house, and some end up on grey sites for sale too (read: at your expense), so yeah logic ensues there.
“I think it’s one and only item in the game that pvp skill will give you advantage, and you want take that away.
if you don’t like being raided and
if you’re good at PvM and enjoy that
can either join a guild who will protect you at champ
or do PvM in trammel EG roof, and sell those items (cameo) to trade for 120 scrolls
But you know, you already still do receive chance of getting lieutenant sash etc if you have worked spawn (depending on champ),
and you get pink scrolls for working the spawn, often they are worth more than the powerscrolls, especially taming and bushido
“
“Also,
Bloodless if you’re soloing despise champ
its really asking for trouble
it’s easiest to raid as its so easy for the PK to kill the boss
I suggest heading over to terra sanctum and doing that spawn
as not covered by many scouts so less chance of detection
or if you do khal ankhur in khaldun or dragon turtle champ, even less people scout those and very hard bosses so a lone PK would not be able to deal”
Cherry pick much?! What no word of the third party sites that benefit from this charade?! Why people leave because of this flawed mechanic?! Idc who you are, but if i put an hours effort into something, yes you will also lose that prized loot you compensate for from a pk too, and get nothing. Pokies have better odds than that!
The crux of my point has been sadly missed.. that is dont reward effort, the scrolls are worth more than housing highest teirs, and third party gold sites have scrolls to sell for real cash, go figure. Hmm so get pked and lose everything , join a guild (also deal with guild drama) and maybe win, or just buy the scrolls from a uo gold farm. Cool.. pvpers leave in disgust or pvm players.. where do you think the account numbers stack there hmmmm?
At least if treasure chests gave 120 scrolls we'd have a chance as PVMers. I ping 300ms to the pop shard, i cant compete with PVPers based on latency.
“I don’t read anything about third party website
third party website sells all items in game in bulk
its doubtful they are raiding your champs, as that would require attended play”
“You will find also, if you work a champ with a pvp guild, it will take a lot less time than an hour soloing it”
“I’m not sure the working of third party sites, i don’t know if they have a stock of items or if they purchase them from vendors on the fly with gold and so adjust their prices accordingly
if the latter is the case then the price of item won’t make a difference to their profit margin.
I’m not sure so can’t really comment.
when I say to trade for scrolls, i meant in game, sell cameo or something and buy from vendors in game
if you’re really against the intended game mechanics of guilds and group (online) play, and risk vs reward
if you got 120s in chests, that would leave nothing left for pvpers at all, there are many valuable trammel items in the game, they only have this one thing”
Ps are and always have been a carrot to bring sheep to fel why do stone cold killers delight in killing the helpless
nothing worse than being there as a tamer trying to get scrolls for your stable, with no fighting skills because youre heavily invested in your tamer aspect, and a ping of 300ms XD I could care less if PKs disappeared i have no respect for them based on times when your ghost is being held captive with energy fields lol. whoever contrived this shitfest should get malignant cancer as a reward.
Oh you can definitely tell the difference with 120 scrolls on some bosses like navrey etc
Also look at GC and the cancer that PVPers are in there. I have never taken up PVP (in UO), if i did t would be in a FPS where things were stacked more even and fair. ;-)
No i am saying that the pets skills are more enhanced with 120. depends on the pets though but CUs are beasts with 120 scrolls.. thats why there a lot of them at 120, otherwise whats the point right?! I use what the ones that do thorough pet parses recommend. Hence why giant beetles are fine with all 110s too. And if all we had were giant beetles, then the PKs would be bored shitless in GC. ;-)
Have nothing against players that like PvP but have to agree with Warra as far as the scrolls go on this one.
“Well I personally do have all 120s on all my pets, but I don’t have problem getting scrolls
if other people got all 120 for their pets I think it’s mostly vanity”
sounds like a random uo gold farm owner is angry via deflecting ^^^ idk you so w/e
I play CSGO on local servers? That is, single digit ping. And i haven't done a champ spawn for over three months now...
If op is not attempting to currently do them I see no point in this thread other than another tram vs fel fiasco.
I've only been raided twice in the past three years on Atlantic.
yeah ok lol. Let me guess, you have only logged on ATL 'twice in the past three years'
Point of this thread is that gold farms are benefiting from an unfair game mechanic.......
i doubt it, that's what other players do too.
ive never cheated so dont know how these scripts go, but it must be a heck of a bot if it can do champ spawns though...
uhm, my sampire is the name im using here.. never had an issue with you Yoshi.. in game or chat, as for Barry/Clyde/Baba thats another point, and they seem to delight in ruffling everyones feathers, but i digress. And the only chick (that isnt using pronouns) i had a brush with was some skank on stratics tamers subforum, so not sure who atomic is neither.
“Okay, I never seen your name at a champ
and our spawn bot keeps a log of names too”
erm, a few months ago me and saul were targeted by a russian pk at champ spawns, it was a big flare up in GC so not sure what you're on about there with that quote. i left the game for a month plus and played something else instead, either way i may go back to FFXIV but the level grind is tedious though end game raids are nice i been told, heh.
I love this game, save for the PKs and the mechanics in favour of them in this context, but there are options and more logical ones where there is no toxic GC to listen to with like here. So yeah, if the PVPers would go away it would be nice to stay put, and i can guarantee you they wouldnt be missed, heh ❤️
“That is not a very nice thing to say about some valuable members of the community
pvpers most knowledgeable about all game mechanics, even more knowledgable about PvM than strict hardcore PvMers”
And im starting to understand why we have never chatted before.. apart from insinuating i am someone else, i dont hold PVPers in the highest regard like you do it appears. All they do is horde champs, idocs, and such and bitch and incoherently whine in GC.
Right now they bitching in GC about putting accounts on the line, excessive numbers, scripting etc. Being a tamer is a simple life, it seems....
PVP is what fel is for, not champ spawns, most PVPers arent traditional PKs, they usually hang at luna moongate or get a pet rez at cough luna stables. All that guild/VvV stuff. Geddit?
Champion spawn PKs serve nothing to the community, they retract from it and like i have alluded to, some of them restock uo gold sites. And like i have previously said, and some of them (read: 120 scrolls) shouldnt be worth more than the highest tier value of a house, that's madness!
To get one pet decked up with 120 scrolls you need circa 500M from VS side of things, if you play solo!
Oh and if its the only thing worth doing, re; champ spawns, then do it from scratch instead of taking the boss fight and all the proceeds from it then!
“As for PvPers not being red
That’s due to town buff
plus a bug with select nearest hostile that was reported like 5 years ago and still not fixed
still bugged today”
So what you are saying is that you need to pk pvmers doing champ spawns, loot their efforts, in order to buy their shinies?! /s
Delete tram is like saying let 5 people play ATL..
oh and the bots running on unpopulated shards are either false or done/brought here, because if you look at those gold farm websites they charge extra if youre not on ATL shard, go figure..
LMAO I am one of the biggest TRAMMIES going and all my pets are 120 scrolled and I have enough scrolls to do 5 more. I make all my gold selling BOD rewards and UO Store items on Atl then I shard hop and buy more items to sell on Atl. Scrolls are not where the gold is. Look at the prices for armor, one good PvP Armor piece pays for a lot of 120 PSs. You want to farm PSs go to a low population shard and farm away. PSs are not the OMG it once was because most players are scrolled out along with most Tamers pets.
For a tamer they are, but i like your angle there TY
Is there any point of reference (URL) that tells you what goes for what these days or loot keepers?! the stuff youre talking about i mean.
All my toons are decked out with PS i got from selling pets, but new pets need new PS and being self-reliant is kinda cool though XD
I cannot get VS to work at all, and havent checked since l left two months ago but to deck out ONE cu all 120 you are looking at US$65+ from those dubious gold farms. So i wouldnt imagine, anat, tact,resist etc have gone down by much. And to put that into perspective, 1 plat is circa US$115