2023-06-23 19:25
#0
"I reported myself for using third party program from another account,
no action taken"
I reported myself
Started by Yoshi
· 2023-06-23
· 51 posts
· General Discussions
2023-06-23 20:28
#1
Cool story.
2023-06-23 21:16
#2
Did a GM show up and if so, did you respond to them? what third party program (i know you can't name it,, but name what it does) we need more details on the matter.
2023-06-23 22:44
#3
“No gm did not show or ask any questions “
2023-06-23 23:06
#4
I feel like people are more likely to get banned for using legal programs.. cause it's probably more rare for GM to encounter someone playing without any cheats.
This is the saddest state of the game I've ever seen it in.
the account you paged on I'm assuming was an EJ account? if nothing happened to an EJ account then UO's f**ked.
2023-06-23 23:10
#5
“No I paged on my paid vet account,
Didn’t receive a message to stop using third party client or anything”
Didn’t receive a message to stop using third party client or anything”
2023-06-24 01:28
#6
Well then it must be legal. I drove over 100 miles today going 85 on the highway. Speed limit signs must be wrong and what I was doing was OK also.Yoshi said:“No I paged on my paid vet account,
Didn’t receive a message to stop using third party client or anything”
Now that you know it is fine to use your client are you going to stop complaining/advertising it daily?
2023-06-24 02:01
#7
Pawain said:Well then it must be legal. I drove over 100 miles today going 85 on the highway. Speed limit signs must be wrong and what I was doing was OK also.Yoshi said:“No I paged on my paid vet account,
Didn’t receive a message to stop using third party client or anything”
Now that you know it is fine to use your client are you going to stop complaining/advertising it daily?
Nah, but you hear about people being banned for boxing up vorpal bunnies?
Third-party program use should be considered at least 500x more of an offense, yet no bans?
if you think about it, most of the issues in UO are caused by third-party clients/cheats/bots ,all done with the same few 'tools'.
Could you imagine UO where the devs don't turn a blind eye to cheaters? -it'd be dead for a while if there were suddenly a mass-banning of cheaters, you might see a few people running around... i can tell you champ spawns would be very safe on all shards, except the super duper easy to check ones (despise, deceit, destard, fire) people don't even remember the route they used to take checking spawns manually anymore because now there are cams for that and every guild uses them. -btw, Cams are probably the least damaging 'cheat' in UO.
2023-06-24 02:23
#8
Now that you reported yourself take the next step and perma ban yourself.
2023-06-24 02:39
#9
They're pretty safe as is now. I can do despise whenever I want on Atl. Merv is the only one that's ever "raided".CovenantX said:
I can tell you champ spawns would be very safe on all shards, except the super duper easy to check ones (despise, deceit, destard, fire)
2023-06-24 05:45
#10
When you do something they can see clearly they punish you. Do the GMs know what client you are using to send commands to UO? I don't know, do you?
Do they see hay blocking a recall spot, do they see items blocking the path of a mob. Yes.
It's been a year, I need to ask for the hay bail account to get unbanned.
Do they see hay blocking a recall spot, do they see items blocking the path of a mob. Yes.
It's been a year, I need to ask for the hay bail account to get unbanned.
2023-06-24 07:10
#11
If using Third Party clients is accepted with Ultima Online, should this now be the case, why cannot this be stated, OFFICIALLY, rather then letting players have to "guess it" on their own and still remain in doubt ?Pawain said:Well then it must be legal. I drove over 100 miles today going 85 on the highway. Speed limit signs must be wrong and what I was doing was OK also.Yoshi said:“No I paged on my paid vet account,
Didn’t receive a message to stop using third party client or anything”
Now that you know it is fine to use your client are you going to stop complaining/advertising it daily?
I mean, a Rule, to my humble opinion, needs to be set in stone, clear for all to understand and go with it.
If using Third Party software with Ultima Online is now legit, I think this should be stated OFFICIALLY.
2023-06-24 08:12
#12
Props to Popps for getting the point across in a brief statement. Bravo. Keep it short n sweet.
Fully agree but if anything is made "official" it'll make it hard to backtrack in case they ever do decide to take action.
Fully agree but if anything is made "official" it'll make it hard to backtrack in case they ever do decide to take action.
2023-06-24 09:35
#13
I cannot speak officially, but I can give you my logical take on the situation.
Using a 3rd party application, in any capacity, is a security risk to your account. I believe Broadsword would be unwise to give a green light to the use of any program they have no control over for this reason.
2023-06-24 11:00
#14
Mariah said:Using a 3rd party application, in any capacity, is a security risk to your account.
"I've been saying this for years.
Should not need to download bug fixes from insecure source,
broadsword should release its own bug fixes"
2023-06-24 11:31
#15
Exactly why they want to reside in the grey area: they don't have to take action.Urge said:Props to Popps for getting the point across in a brief statement. Bravo. Keep it short n sweet.
Fully agree but if anything is made "official" it'll make it hard to backtrack in case they ever do decide to take action.
Plus, its hard to keep track of all the "bans" for the monthly newsletter..........
2023-06-24 11:57
#16
I read several pvp discord channels daily and it seems as though almost all of the pvpers use 3d party client. it sounds like its far better than our 2d client. If they took action on all the players using other clients you would probably kill the game off.
not sure why anyone cares about this at this point just enjoy your own game play.
2023-06-24 14:05
#17
They didn't ban you probably because they could not believe anyone would be so dumb as to report themselves. Its like the robber confessing he just robbed a bank.
2023-06-24 16:38
#18
Once Yoshi stops posting we'll assume he was successful in getting himself banned. 
2023-06-24 17:39
#19
“If you post a video of people playing uo with cheats from YouTube, you’re more likely to get banned from forum than the person in the video who is actually using the cheats”
2023-06-24 17:41
#20
“People plead guilty in court all the time, doesn’t mean they all walk free”Seth said:They didn't ban you probably because they could not believe anyone would be so dumb as to report themselves. Its like the robber confessing he just robbed a bank.
2023-06-24 19:29
#21
Yoshi said:Mariah said:Using a 3rd party application, in any capacity, is a security risk to your account."I've been saying this for years.Should not need to download bug fixes from insecure source,broadsword should release its own bug fixes"
There's that full circle.
TBH,if the official shards don't take it seriously, why should the players?
2023-06-24 21:07
#22
A year ago I asked, in a very sincere mood, 'What is the official stance on using 3rd party scripts' in this thread here. I never expected there would be so much interest expressed or so many opinions offered but the thing that REALLY gets me is the silence from those that could give us clarity.
My personal opinion is that, like we all know, some things just can't be said aloud. So I've decided that for as long as I can, I will play the game like I always have, doing my own thing, one click of the mouse at a time and not fret about the rest.
2023-06-24 21:31
#23
"you probably play in trammel where you're not hit by bugs every 5 seconds that get you killed,
when i play in trammel, i experience pretty much 0 bugs, and can play on broadsword client no problems at all, it's almost as if they never tested it in fel and all the testing was done in trammel"
2023-06-24 21:49
#24
Yoshi said:"I reported myself for using third party program from another account,no action taken"
Wayne? As long as you don't provide any/more details, anyone can state a thing like that.
2023-06-24 22:04
#25
"ah okay, didn't happen, they instantly ban anyone who logs in on 3rd party okay"
2023-06-24 22:37
#26
95+% of UO would belive this because they have no want or need to use cheats to play better than others.Yoshi said:"ah okay, didn't happen, they instantly ban anyone who logs in on 3rd party okay"
So how much time should be invested in the 2% of UO who will do what you already said, that you would continue to use the 3rd party client even if UO fixed your "bugs". Waste of their time, waste of yours.
Age of Empires has a clicky for cheat mode so all the players can choose that or to play without them. Many more players play AoE than UO.
2023-06-24 23:18
#27
"can you show your source for the 95+%
and 2% figures please
i guess rather than fixing attunement bug, what the game really needs is more huntmaster trophies.."
2023-06-25 00:04
#28
I agree with that. And more rewards. Some new hat and shield blanks.
Attunement works as designed. Just not how YOU want it to work.
Attunement works as designed. Just not how YOU want it to work.
2023-06-25 01:05
#29
"lol okay, it works just fine for me now on 3rd party client
leave it broken for those broadsword client shmucks
just label absolutely everything as working as intended
client crash, working as designed
"
2023-06-25 01:17
#30
Pawain said:95+% of UO would belive this because they have no want or need to use cheats to play better than others.Yoshi said:"ah okay, didn't happen, they instantly ban anyone who logs in on 3rd party okay"
So how much time should be invested in the 2% of UO who will do what you already said, that you would continue to use the 3rd party client even if UO fixed your "bugs". Waste of their time, waste of yours.
Age of Empires has a clicky for cheat mode so all the players can choose that or to play without them. Many more players play AoE than UO.
You don't serious believe that only 5% of the population uses some form of cheat ? DId I read your reply wrong ? You got it backwards.
2023-06-25 01:48
#31
Pawain said:
Attunement works as designed. Just not how YOU want it to work.
"so are you going to write a bug report for EC then? since it's fixed in EC...
and write a bug report to make it not work...
or you think it's designed to work completely different for each client?"
2023-06-25 02:01
#32
No, nobody reported you, but you walked into the police station to report yourself.Yoshi said:“People plead guilty in court all the time, doesn’t mean they all walk free”Seth said:They didn't ban you probably because they could not believe anyone would be so dumb as to report themselves. Its like the robber confessing he just robbed a bank.
"hey dude, I just robbed a bank! Arrest me now!"
Huh!?
It is not as if someone reported you and then you plead guilty to reduce the sentence, before they ban you.
But anyway, maybe they still value your bugs reporting.
2023-06-25 03:37
#33
That one guy doing the trade runs you complain about is what % of UO?Garth_Grey said:Pawain said:95+% of UO would belive this because they have no want or need to use cheats to play better than others.Yoshi said:"ah okay, didn't happen, they instantly ban anyone who logs in on 3rd party okay"
So how much time should be invested in the 2% of UO who will do what you already said, that you would continue to use the 3rd party client even if UO fixed your "bugs". Waste of their time, waste of yours.
Age of Empires has a clicky for cheat mode so all the players can choose that or to play without them. Many more players play AoE than UO.
You don't serious believe that only 5% of the population uses some form of cheat ? DId I read your reply wrong ? You got it backwards.
2023-06-25 07:50
#34
This thread continues to disappoint.
2023-06-25 13:38
#35
I thought even mesanna herself admitted at a meet and greet a few years back that she used a loop program .Pawain said:That one guy doing the trade runs you complain about is what % of UO?Garth_Grey said:Pawain said:95+% of UO would belive this because they have no want or need to use cheats to play better than others.Yoshi said:"ah okay, didn't happen, they instantly ban anyone who logs in on 3rd party okay"
So how much time should be invested in the 2% of UO who will do what you already said, that you would continue to use the 3rd party client even if UO fixed your "bugs". Waste of their time, waste of yours.
Age of Empires has a clicky for cheat mode so all the players can choose that or to play without them. Many more players play AoE than UO.
You don't serious believe that only 5% of the population uses some form of cheat ? DId I read your reply wrong ? You got it backwards.
2023-06-25 16:26
#36
“ @Pawain show me just 1 video on YouTube of someone pvping on Atlantic in the lst year without using any cheats or 3rd party bug fixes.
Shold be easy, should be 98% of them according to your stats”
2023-06-25 18:47
#37
PvP is what is 2% of UO. Show some PvM videos of players using cheats so we can laugh at them.Yoshi said:“ @ Pawain show me just 1 video on YouTube of someone pvping on Atlantic in the lst year without using any cheats or 3rd party bug fixes.Shold be easy, should be 98% of them according to your stats”
2023-06-25 18:56
#38
"pvp is 2% of the game okay..."
2023-06-25 20:29
#39
So why attempt to change things that are working as is intended to the way Mervyn wants them to work for 2% of the player base.Yoshi said:"pvp is 2% of the game okay..."
2023-06-25 20:45
#40
"who want to change what?
if you're talking about attunement,
it is working on EC, people must download third party client for fix for 2d
I don't think this is dev intention.
and let us say they fixed it for CC, how it will be bad for you in trammel to have it work properly in trammel too?
if it is on cooldown and you try cast spell, for it to give a message about cooldown, how will that be bad for you?
instead of waste your mana in trammel too and give message saying you must wait but not tell you how long.."
2023-06-25 20:53
#41
"the person who is responsible for QA at broadsword.
When their check arrives in the mail each month, they don't wonder where it comes from? they just cash it each month?"
2023-06-26 00:52
#42
I have wondered at times if I should do that. I did make my own GM once when they would not show up, dying bandages yellow and red, with a couple of yarn balls dyed black.Yoshi said:"I reported myself for using third party program from another account,no action taken"
2023-06-26 01:53
#43
I'd recommend doing it again and live stream in entirety.. unless it's just another yoshi make believe
2023-06-26 02:27
#44
“Feel free to report me or anyone else a at yew gate if you don’t believe”
2023-06-26 07:09
#45
she said she used UO loop at an unscheduled meeting on LS like 5-6-ish years ago now, it had to do with a governor election issue of moonglow I believe.AtomicBetty said:I thought even mesanna herself admitted at a meet and greet a few years back that she used a loop program .Pawain said:That one guy doing the trade runs you complain about is what % of UO?Garth_Grey said:Pawain said:95+% of UO would belive this because they have no want or need to use cheats to play better than others.Yoshi said:"ah okay, didn't happen, they instantly ban anyone who logs in on 3rd party okay"
So how much time should be invested in the 2% of UO who will do what you already said, that you would continue to use the 3rd party client even if UO fixed your "bugs". Waste of their time, waste of yours.
Age of Empires has a clicky for cheat mode so all the players can choose that or to play without them. Many more players play AoE than UO.
You don't serious believe that only 5% of the population uses some form of cheat ? DId I read your reply wrong ? You got it backwards.
there was also a player there (I played with ~10 or so years ago) that said they were currently logged in on UOSt**m during that same meeting and absolutely nothing happened.
of course UO loop isn't even comparable to the programs people are running today, but in all honesty, UOLoop isn't exactly 'approved' either, but you won't be botting anything that isn't 'direct-to-pack' with it either. you'd need one of the most used clients to get away with that... as the majority is currently doing.
2023-06-26 15:16
#46
Hasn't anyone learned that Pawain just makes up random numbers to support his case? Just like something isn't an issue if he's not experiencing it. Then someone questions where he gets his numbers from and he deflects to something else, usually "well I don't have that issue" or "the game works fine for me". At this point, I'd probably make the argument that Pawain does more for this game, by the way of pom pom waving & denying issues, than the head of QA does. Maybe he should get Misk's paycheck from now on... we might not like it but at least Pawain would be working for the money.Garth_Grey said:Pawain said:95+% of UO would belive this because they have no want or need to use cheats to play better than others.Yoshi said:"ah okay, didn't happen, they instantly ban anyone who logs in on 3rd party okay"
So how much time should be invested in the 2% of UO who will do what you already said, that you would continue to use the 3rd party client even if UO fixed your "bugs". Waste of their time, waste of yours.
Age of Empires has a clicky for cheat mode so all the players can choose that or to play without them. Many more players play AoE than UO.
You don't serious believe that only 5% of the population uses some form of cheat ? DId I read your reply wrong ? You got it backwards.
If I had to guess, over half the people playing UO are using something that hasn't specifically been sanctioned by UO which could be considered a cheat by people that aren't using them. Have any of the mapping tools used with UO specifically been approved? That said, Mesanna is also the one that said something to the effect of "do what it takes to win" so I'm not sure if that's really the best message when saying we shouldn't use whatever we can for an advantage.
2023-06-26 15:30
#47
"yes its same as me logging into World of warcraft forum when i don't play it and posting on their bug list that everything is working fine for me..
I got 3000+ posts most of which are explaining to him how wrong he is in all his 7000+
He trying to say attunement working as intended, when it works completely different on EC to CC (EC is no problem) and i didn't even check EC when i wrote my bug report for CC, yet EC handles spell exactly as my expected result for CC...
and its fixed on third party client so even Russians figured how it's supposed to work"
2023-06-26 16:22
#48
Yet Yoshi agreed with the 2% of players are in fel that are using his client for cheating purposes. 98% PvM and have never seen or heard of his "bugs". Come back when you can post something true. See ya next year, maybe.keven2002 said:Hasn't anyone learned that Pawain just makes up random numbers to support his case? Just like something isn't an issue if he's not experiencing it. Then someone questions where he gets his numbers from and he deflects to something else, usually "well I don't have that issue" or "the game works fine for me". At this point, I'd probably make the argument that Pawain does more for this game, by the way of pom pom waving & denying issues, than the head of QA does. Maybe he should get Misk's paycheck from now on... we might not like it but at least Pawain would be working for the money.Garth_Grey said:Pawain said:95+% of UO would belive this because they have no want or need to use cheats to play better than others.Yoshi said:"ah okay, didn't happen, they instantly ban anyone who logs in on 3rd party okay"
So how much time should be invested in the 2% of UO who will do what you already said, that you would continue to use the 3rd party client even if UO fixed your "bugs". Waste of their time, waste of yours.
Age of Empires has a clicky for cheat mode so all the players can choose that or to play without them. Many more players play AoE than UO.
You don't serious believe that only 5% of the population uses some form of cheat ? DId I read your reply wrong ? You got it backwards.
If I had to guess, over half the people playing UO are using something that hasn't specifically been sanctioned by UO which could be considered a cheat by people that aren't using them. Have any of the mapping tools used with UO specifically been approved? That said, Mesanna is also the one that said something to the effect of "do what it takes to win" so I'm not sure if that's really the best message when saying we shouldn't use whatever we can for an advantage.
2023-06-26 16:30
#49
"i said okay sarcastically, because the figure is so ridiculous
you're trying to say that only 2% of the uo pop pvp? its not even worth arguing its so wrong, you're in your own little bubble.
When every single discord i enter, you get maybe 1 woman who is doing pvm, everyone else is pvp
with the exception of EM events, the only place you see 30+ people actively playing is fel yew
you know all those tournaments in korea for league of legends etc that draw football stadiums of crowds, I can't see that going to happen for someone spamming AI on a monster for 30 mins..
also, the only reason people PvM in the first place it to obtain items to PvP with, so even the people doing pvm are only doing it to assist in PvP. Maybe there are some people who play only to PvM but they could do that offline.."
2023-06-26 16:46
#50
This is not the forum where we post disrespectful posts about one another.