This is getting ridiculous

I told you how to fix it's a simple copy rename and paste the developers do a lot of stupid stuff but it's ridiculous you want to die on this hill

Which hill should i die on? The dupers hill? The bug Hill? The RMT hill? The scammer hill? The lag hill? The no communication from anyone hill?

“Saul pm me I’ll take a look”

SaulGoodman1 said:

Which hill should i die on? The dupers hill? The bug Hill? The RMT hill? The scammer hill? The lag hill? The no communication from anyone hill?

All those much better Hills 

SaulGoodman1 said:

So i named two of my characters the same name and it screwed the macros for each Character when i would log in on each one reverts the macros to the other character, so @ yoshi said get a name change, Like don't let the devs fix the issue they created!

So after a while and at great cost I have done that and its still screwed. No wonder this game is dead.

The game is dead, but yet here you are.

Whitewolf said:

SaulGoodman1 said:

So i named two of my characters the same name and it screwed the macros for each Character when i would log in on each one reverts the macros to the other character, so @ yoshi said get a name change, Like don't let the devs fix the issue they created!

So after a while and at great cost I have done that and its still screwed. No wonder this game is dead.

The game is dead, but yet here you are.

He just likes to spread hate and why he even plays UO nobody knows.

@Yoshi how do you fix the problem with accounts that when I login the char is saying "all kill" or "all follow me" or I wish to release this... or other commands I have set in macros ? 

"by changing your password to things that aren't on those keys lol"

hmm lol ok !

In Saul’s original post on this he said the GM recommended he buy a name change.  He bought the name change.  He did what UO told him to do.  On reading this post the GM should be out there now helping him resolve the issues he is having with his macros.  That’s the way business works.  Or, at least is suppose to.

it's a simple matter of renaming the old user data file to your new name 

Do one of two things.

1. Make new macros using the new character names.
2. Copy the files from the old name to the new name folder.

Then exit and rejoin any guild they were in.

Takes just a few minutes.

Hasn't this been the case for years? Or am I misunderstanding something?

Yoshi said:

" here we go again,

if they leave something broken for a long time it's okay....

I murdered that woman years ago, what you arresting me for now 10 years later?

Okay, you know all those annoying ghost images on EC that remain and your char tries to attack them and you die cos its not real creature.... Hasn't this been the case for years? or am i misunderstanding something?

"

The idea to make non unique character names was brilliant. 26 years later!

Would you rather have characters with names like Jay10259, Bill10356, John XOXOX139
The fad of UpPeRaNdLoWeR case was bad enough.

I doubt they can use ID #s, because those change when you transfer shards.  That is why I can not transfer one of my main toons because he owns 9 coops of Battle Chicken Lizards.

GM River told me a long time ago that he is probably the last GM that can make them mine again because the game rewrites that number when you transfer. You can see this on TC.  He said your toon is basically reborn.  He said he recommends not to transfer to be able to keep them at my house.  If this is not correct, take it up with him.

“Why it matters if folder says John739465? You very rarely need to access these folders, should ideally never have to access them

John will still be called John in game”

Yoshi said:

“Why it matters? You very rarely need to access these folders”

I doubt it could be done that simply, I would assume the folder needs to match the name.

Learning where the files are and how to copy them is worth not having unique names.

Since all your toons have the same name, roleplay they are all identical twins?

My different account toons are all related in some way.

“You’re basically accusing devs of being inept if you think they can’t do that.
considering uoassist has option to save folders by a unique ID…”

Yoshi said:

“You’re basically accusing devs of being inept if you think they can’t do that.
considering uoassist has option to save folders by a unique ID…”

I am not a programmer so it would be near impossible for me to do this. They decide what is the most important item on their ever growing to do list.
They have had their jobs for many years do you know what they are capable of and not?  What do you base your vast knowledge of the developers skills on?  There is a difference between not doing something because it will not enhance the game enough to spend time on it versus what they are working on now, and not knowing how to do it.  All of us know how to do many things.  Do we do all of them every day/week/year just to prove to some anonymous internet troll that we can do it?  They know that troll will want something different the next day and not use what they did for him the previous day.

We work on computers, players have been making Mods for games since the floppy disk era. Many games have someone reveal cheat codes as soon as the game is released. Ya players that have the skills and no responsibility to the company or quality of the game can do many things.

“Number of bugs fixed in last ‘publish’
Enhanced client 0
Classic client 0

Wow it must’ve taken them a long time to come up with that ‘priority’ list

Do you also pay to see movies you do not like?   Do you also frequent a restaurant that has food you do not like.  Sounds like it it time for a re-evaluation on where you spend entertainment money.  Plenty are like me, none of your "bugs" affect my play.  So they deem keeping the majority% of players happy and spending time on other content.

There are a heck of a lot more game choices than many forms of entertainment.  I am playing two others at the moment.  

Maybe after NL is released they will do a 5 year bug fix for all the things you think are bugs and see how well Mervyn Online goes.

Yoshi said:

" here we go again,

if they leave something broken for a long time it's okay....

I murdered that woman years ago, what you arresting me for now 10 years later?

Okay, you know all those annoying ghost images on EC that remain and your char tries to attack them and you die cos its not real creature.... Hasn't this been the case for years? or am i misunderstanding something?

"

Have learned a lot about the UO files on my computer from players responding to this thread.  Thank you.  Thread seems to be meandering a little now to bugs. After four years of playing and looking at tons of older as well as newer stuff written about UO on the internet, have determined that a lot of the bugs have been around so long they are likely just inherent to the game and can’t be fixed.  Also, many charts are just so old, players can’t rely on fact and figures in them as being absolute anymore.  And, also learned not to rely 100% on explanations of how things work because some are more likely explanations of how things are suppose to work.  Overall. In my opinion the game itself still works for me, so I will continue to play it.  

Characters with the same name has been a known problem for many, many years. There is no easy answer to it.

I try to keep in mind that the developers who created the classic client were pioneers, they were feeling their way as best they could, the game wasn't expected to last more than 6 months. They never expected their decisions to be affecting players 25 years in the future.

Later game companies learned from their mistakes, but some of those early mistakes can't really be fixed without a complete re-write of the client. 

UO is so different to the modern games that my nVidia graphics card doesn't even register it as being a game at all!
The page linked in another thread can help people understand a little about how character files are stored. 
https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/technical/copying-character-files/

Arnold7 said:

 Think sometimes UO staff responding to these discussions could show a little more empathy to players sometimes.  For example, don’t think what the poster asked for in this thread was unreasonable. 

Petra_Fyde said:

Characters with the same name has been a known problem for many, many years.

" @Petra_Fyde please send me a link to your bug report on this if its been known for many many years, either this forum or stratics, or you decided to sit on the info and not tell anyone just to screw new players over?"

I'm not 'sitting' on any info. I didn't report it and I didn't experience it. All my characters have unique names.  I merely remember reading about it in threads from years ago when people discussed it on Stratics. I'm not about to go searching through years of Stratics posts to find it, sorry. I'm not blaming the OP, only saying that some players knew about it. As far as I know there's no easy fix, and no 'official' information on it. 

Basic computer literacy has decreased in the last few years because of cell phones. It will be a benefit for people to learn what program shows you files and how to do a basic copy function. They will also understand why they can not name their characters the same names on the same shard and use different macros.

There are posters showing you how to modify the EC, which is what was intended, that looks a lot more difficult than copying a file or two.

Maybe more players will be confident enough to put those mods in their EC after they see they can do this.

Win win all around.

Note: you can not destroy your UO if you mess up and delete the character files.  New ones will be written when you log off.

A basic file setup up of a mage and warrior are great to have available to use when needed.

We do not have to dumb down the player base to prove a silly point.

"

Yoshi said:

"lol,

to play game you need to  access program files and copy/paste,

should just double click game icon, like you know, every other PC game.

for a start, i don't even have admin permission on my PC to access these files, i have to contact someone else for that lol"

You do not have to.  So stop spreading false information 

You do it to play efficiently. 

You could redo your macros daily if you want to and not save them.

Notice I totally did not say a smart ass comeback to you not having access to your own computer. 

What is ridiculous,  in 26 years I have never seen a thread about this topic with posters acting like we are telling them they have to do some phenomenal feat.

Probably 80% of UO players have never copied these files and about the same never knew they existed.  But now you jump to, I can't play UO after playing if for 25 years. 

How do you get permission to download those non official clients that could have a key logger in them?

"exactly, i have to ask permission from Rorscharch who make me do it"

Pawain said:

What is ridiculous,  in 26 years I have never seen a thread about this topic

Petra_Fyde said:

I merely remember reading about it in threads from years ago when people discussed it on Stratics.

"If you two want to keep pom poming, you should at least get your stories straight"

I meant such a complicated one sorry. I did not put that word in. I'm sure there has been a thread about everything imaginable.

I realized something. Another common thing in Atl general chat after the OP talks is,  I thought I put you on ignore! Why do I still hear you!?
Now we know why.

I'm outta here.  Fell for another one from the OP.

Yoshi said:

“I experience almost 0 bugs when I go to trammel

Select nearest hostile: don't need to seperate neutral animals from oranges as no orange in tram and when other players cast red drone you don't actually attack them as you can't, and guild members not possible for them to turn grey/red in trammel...

Wall of stone - no rubber banding as you walk through it in trammel

Nerve strike debuff missing, I don't think there even is a mob that nerve strikes in trammel

attunement cooldown - only bugged in CC, fixed 100% in EC default ui even, happens in trammel but mobs don't move as fast as player so you can just move out of the way of mob...

Proof that if dev ever played game they stay in trammel and probably use EC too"

   Those are able to be encountered in Trammel if people ever use the "Guild War" features. My guild/alliance had a guild war against nWa and their alliance (when that guild existed), I know both sides lost a lot of members over that because cross-shard pvpers absolutely hated logged into Luna and being ganked immediately.

OK  I have read this entire thread and I have only one question.  Why would anyone want to name two chars. on the same shard the same name?  All my chars. are unique and deserve their own unique name.  Are both the same build?  Please explain the reason/rational why you would do this, seriously.

Lord_Frodo said:

OK  I have read this entire thread and I have only one question.  Why would anyone want to name two chars. on the same shard the same name?  All my chars. are unique and deserve their own unique name.  Are both the same build?  Please explain the reason/rational why you would do this, seriously.

So he can log in a different one so others who put him on ignore will still hear his rants in general chat until they ignore that version of him also.

Lord_Frodo said:

OK  I have read this entire thread and I have only one question.  Why would anyone want to name two chars. on the same shard the same name?  All my chars. are unique and deserve their own unique name.  Are both the same build?  Please explain the reason/rational why you would do this, seriously.

AmberWitch said:

*turns red*

Because it keeps things simple and typically I usually can't think up a decent name when I'm creating a new char. This is also known as being simply lazy.

Name them after your friends/kids/grandchildren

Pawain said:

Lord_Frodo said:

OK  I have read this entire thread and I have only one question.  Why would anyone want to name two chars. on the same shard the same name?  All my chars. are unique and deserve their own unique name.  Are both the same build?  Please explain the reason/rational why you would do this, seriously.

So he can log in a different one so others who put him on ignore will still hear his rants in general chat until they ignore that version of him also.

So I can only shit talk in Gen Chat if I have the same name, STUPID.

Lord_Frodo said:

AmberWitch said:

*turns red*

Because it keeps things simple and typically I usually can't think up a decent name when I'm creating a new char. This is also known as being simply lazy.

Name them after your friends/kids/grandchildren

AmberWitch said:

Lord_Frodo said:

AmberWitch said:

*turns red*

Because it keeps things simple and typically I usually can't think up a decent name when I'm creating a new char. This is also known as being simply lazy.

Name them after your friends/kids/grandchildren

I wouldn't do that to them. You know what I'm like in game.

Besides, I like having my chars named the same.

You too fancy pants to use One, Two or Three?
 😂 

I make names that go well with the Artisan gift box.
  

Lord_Frodo said:

  Please explain the reason/rational why you would do this, seriously.

“Yes many guilds used to like everyone being the same name because it made it hard for the opposition to call the target.
but not so much nowadays as the caller selects the target and it’s automatically selected for guild mates with script”

Lord_Frodo said:

OK  I have read this entire thread and I have only one question.  Why would anyone want to name two chars. on the same shard the same name?  All my chars. are unique and deserve their own unique name.  Are both the same build?  Please explain the reason/rational why you would do this, seriously.

Tyrath said:

Lord_Frodo said:

OK  I have read this entire thread and I have only one question.  Why would anyone want to name two chars. on the same shard the same name?  All my chars. are unique and deserve their own unique name.  Are both the same build?  Please explain the reason/rational why you would do this, seriously.

I generally like to keep most of my house owners names Tyrath.  And it does not matter one way or another to me about them all having the same macros because my macros are all the same across all of the accounts. And yep most of my characters are identical within 3 classes Tamer/Mage/Crafter-Mule. 

That is naming one char on one account/one shard times how many accounts you have.  That is not naming 2 chars the same on one shard.  I have many Frodos on many shards/accounts for collecting gifts but never have I had 2 Frodos on the same account/shard and I have never had the problem the OP is having.

all my characters are Skett on all shards and accounts I use the same macros and desktop on all accounts. It keeps it easy past and copy the files to every account folder its all the same. I have no issues at all.

We are very lucky we can name our characters anything.  There is nothing wrong with having 5 Allens on one shard, Only an insane person would do such a thing.

But you should not have to explain why you name your toons what you did, we are here to listen if you want to explain.